| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/10/2006 7:23:28 PM | | I am right there with ya dear Iam a female smoker and I dont smoke all that often but just the mere mentioning of it and they curl there nose and dont call back. I have even told them that I will not smoke around them when we are out but that doesnt work. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 3:28:27 PM | Hey VAB-MOM,
For some reason I can't get to the 1st page after I asked my question to the ladies except to ONLY be able to see what I WROTE???. However I am able to get to this page and your reply is the very 1st I was able to read....... Go figure?
Asked tech post and the same thing happened there and can only read what I wrote.
Kooky! : )
Thanks a bunch for chiming in with me, I do agree and wonder why the reaction from some is almost visceral...
I quit for a year and never got upset or mad at anyone that was still smoking because I remembered myself being a smoker.
I am hoping to meet someone that can gently cajole me into finally quitting for good. I know I have to do it on my own but right now, I'm just not ready.......
Enjoy!
Best to you,
~Gianni | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 5:51:24 PM | I think its safe to say many women want to have children and they are going to be concerned about their own health, the health of the baby during the pregnancy and the health of the child during their early years if you smoke.
Then I think if you commit to a man, you don't want him to die on you young because hes a smoker. Men already outlive women as it is.
Then theres the cost part. Its expensive to smoke. I think people in a relationship should have their own hobbies and interests and some separate funds, but you have to wonder if that money is going to be better spent in Juniors college fund. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 6:02:26 PM | [Well I have to weigh in on this one.As all who read my profile know I smoke.
Now keep this in mind,I'm 62,5'8,130 lbs.I an up bt 5:00 am every morning.I'm really have a short day if I get in bed by 10.I have a ranch here,830 acres,have 8 full time employees.250 pair of breeding black angus cattle.In my spare time I design,build and repair industrial laundry"s.I have smoked for 45 years.Now you all know I have heard every argument there is as far as smoking goes.Now would one or more of you santimonious hand wringers please explain to me why it is that for every instance of an allergy supposedly caused by smoking,There are at least 100 that are not.Now for you that have lost loved ones I do extend my sympathy.However for every one lost to smoking there are 20 or more not,and dieing of the same thing.Anyone care to explain that?Oh did I forget to mention I spent 15 years in the army(as a medical tech?
Now. if you people want to really be in better physical shape,Look at these figures
of the "known" carcinigens,only three are found in cigarette smoke.There are however 127
found in your car exhaust.You are exposed to more dangerous pollutants by walking through you grocery store parking lot,Than by any 500 people smoking in the same room with you.Now for all of you that claim cigarettes are bad for you,GET OUT OF YOUR CARS!!!!!! I am tired of being poisoned by you!!!!!!]
I can't justify your preference for smoking. I can't even explain why people are allergic to things. And, I don't know why you've been so fortunate to have 45 years of excellent health...I'm just very glad that you are.
I only know what I've seen and what I've experienced first hand. I saw someone suffer and die at 65 for the choices they made in their first 45 years of life. I know that my skin itches and my eyes water and my nose runs when, I'm in bar settings or around for long periods of time, people who smoke.
I know that my nose wrinkles up at the sour smell of stale smoke. I know that the sound of a hacking cough disgusts my ears. I know that the sight of yellow teeth, stained fingers and wrinkly lines around a person's mouth makes them look old and unattractive before their time.
It might be poisonious exhaust that contributes to my early demise. And, for the rest of my life my eyes and skin might also itch from grass and trees. There are many ways to die, and I fully understand that fact.
That said.....it's still your right to do it, just don't expect me to like it, nor attracted to it. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 6:36:51 PM | | I am 42, have never smoked, nor did i grow up around smokers. When i was 18 i dated a guy who smoked...to this day i can still remember the "taste" when kissing him...YUCK..that was the last time i had a nicotine kiss. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 8:59:12 PM | Dear Blonde Gal Having More Fun:
Thanks for your response......
Every comment you made I agree with.
It would be insensitive for someone to share a life with someone you love and then go ahaead and bring a new life onto the planet and endanger the child's and mothers life.
I can absolutely guarantee this,
1. My significant gal would not be with a smoker if she was pregnant, meaning that I would quit if "we" were expecting and.....
2. I am looking for a reason to quit, IE someone (A gal I love) that gives me the spark to do it, and....
3. I said earlier that I would never ever absolutely subject (Specially some one I am enamoured with) to endure my second hand smoke.
And yes it is so valid to mention the cancer question....
I think that is up to the individual however it is complicated because if you "are in love" and you would like to enjoy some years with that person then yes, it is not fair to make the one you love watch you kill yourself.
That's are really tough one.
Lastly,
I have to admit the cost part is indeed a big factor considering the "Both" of you are working hard to get ahead and one of you is pilfering away hard earned money....
I guess the cost was alway's/is a burdeon that you cannot escape and is not fair to my lady.
You raise some good issues......... Thanks!
Best wishes,
~Gianni | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 9:07:18 PM | Dear 1 Smart Cookie:
(Like your handle.) ; )
Thanks for the excellent comments.....
You are certainly a hard working gal!
Are you wrestling like me trying to come up with justification to kick it?
Really want to know.
Will reply for sure!
Enjoy!
~Gianni | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 9:14:39 PM | Dear Up All Night Too:
Hey? (Why are you up all night? Just inquisitive.) ; )
Yes! If a smoker who happens to be with you and you inform him that the nicotine tastes yucky, then if that guy doesn't brush his teeth and wash his face after a butt like me when with someone who can't stand it is a bonehead.
I was married for 25 years and my wife never complained nor any of the girlfriends since because I am festidious about it and do my best to never ever have to let anyone be subjected to it........
Point well taken though.
Thank you for the comment.
Cordially,
~Gianni | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 9:27:09 PM | Dear Seawench:
Thanks for writing....
See you wouldn't mind dating me because I am meticulous about smoking. I go outside my house and usuaully take my shirt of so the smoke can't get embedded in my clothes and then I brush my teeth after, specially if we are planning on some hanky panky. If on a long drive I park and have a 1/2 of one takes less that 5 mins,. and carry a travel toothbrush.
If I'm at the poker game with the guys then , well........ Hee, hee.
I guess I have been extraordinary lucky that none of the women I have been with have ever made it a deal breaker.
Thanks again.
Best wishes,
~Gianni | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 9:58:20 PM | | hey i'm a smoker...i've dated guys who dont smoke...they didnt find it a problem...i felt a little uneasy about smokeing around them just out of respect because they didnt smoke but they didnt care...plain and simple there enough female smokers out there for all the male smokers...if anyone has issues with smokeing...then it's their issue...if they cant get past it well then life sucks move on to the next one...theres plenty of fish in the sea my dear ;) | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/11/2006 10:33:37 PM | Smokeing is fine to me, but to be honest, I dont like the taste of somebody smokeing, and well, it dosn't smell all that great either.
Its a personal choice however, and a freedom.
We shouldn't judge one because they smoke.
Otherwise we would have to judge eachother on how we drink our juice, or what we drink how we drive, what car we drive. How we wear our hat. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/12/2006 5:29:12 AM | Sweetie,
I am happy for you that you are successful. I also think that you’re probably a nice guy. However, it’s not what you do… but the stench. It is everywhere. It is oppressive. It is nasty. It is in everything. My parents smoke, and my clothes literally reek coming from a visit. I have dated, and very shortly at that, a guy that smokes. It is like kissing an ashtray. Each and every time he sweats, the stench comes out of his skin. The bed would smell like cigarettes even though he didn’t smoke in the bedroom. This is why I personally will not date a smoker. I can’t stand the smell.
Tasha  | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/12/2006 10:13:35 AM |
Sweetie,
I am happy for you that you are successful. I also think that you’re probably a nice guy. However, it’s not what you do… but the stench. It is everywhere. It is oppressive. It is nasty. It is in everything. My parents smoke, and my clothes literally reek coming from a visit. I have dated, and very shortly at that, a guy that smokes. It is like kissing an ashtray. Each and every time he sweats, the stench comes out of his skin. The bed would smell like cigarettes even though he didn’t smoke in the bedroom. This is why I personally will not date a smoker. I can’t stand the smell.
Thank you for the reply.I know we all have to make choices.You have done so for the reasons you think best for you.I also know that each one of us is unique in our reaction to any stimulie.Your date apparently absorbed the smoke more than others.I know that didn"t smell good,You made the right choice for you
can't justify your preference for smoking. I can't even explain why people are allergic to things. And, I don't know why you've been so fortunate to have 45 years of excellent health...I'm just very glad that you are.
I only know what I've seen and what I've experienced first hand. I saw someone suffer and die at 65 for the choices they made in their first 45 years of life. I know that my skin itches and my eyes water and my nose runs when, I'm in bar settings or around for long periods of time, people who smoke.
I know that my nose wrinkles up at the sour smell of stale smoke. I know that the sound of a hacking cough disgusts my ears. I know that the sight of yellow teeth, stained fingers and wrinkly lines around a person's mouth makes them look old and unattractive before their time.
It might be poisonious exhaust that contributes to my early demise. And, for the rest of my life my eyes and skin might also itch from grass and trees. There are many ways to die, and I fully understand that fact.
That said.....it's still your right to do it, just don't expect me to like it, nor attracted to it.
I fully appreciate and respect your position,and your extreme discomfort.Yes we all make choices for both our health and our comfort
I niether expect you to like my decisions or me to like all of yours.We are all different and so should our choices be
In all probabllity I am an odd ball.I do have a certain immunity to certain things.I am however allergic to others(scented candles) damn things choke me
Can"t even go in store that carries them!!
I must apologize if I seem to be very opinionated(I am) but i don"t mean to beat some one with it | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/12/2006 1:47:59 PM | Well, I am a non-smoker BUT my fiance is a smoker. He is actually in the process of quiting....which he is doing for himself, not me...made sure of that one. When he does smoke he won't smoke around me at all because he knows I don't like it. If he goes outside to smoke and comes back in he will brush his teeth and wash his hands before he will even come next to me. I don't give him crap about smoking but I try to encourage him when he is struggling.
So, in other words....you just haven't found the right woman yet. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/12/2006 2:00:45 PM | Hey,
This might sound odd but when I was dating and actually looking for a potential life mate - the reason I wouldnt date a smoker is I honestly looked at it as baggage
1) A smoker pays more for life insurance
2) smoker is more likely to get heart disease cancer ect. the list of course goes one
3) when a smoker tries to quit it puts strain on those that are closest to him/her
4) its an expensive habit/ luxery that other things in life will need to be sacrificed for
5) If I had children with this person they would then be exposed to a male roll model who smokes thus increasing their chances of smoking.
6) There is NO excuse for some one in my generation to smoke - we are well aware of the health risk s as well as the addictive qualities to do it any way ( yes i can forgive stupid teenage mistakes( and to have NOT quit by now shows lack ofmaturity and a lack of respect for your body
7) IF a person was of an older generation I understand the smoking thing - however my father smoked from age 2 ( YES 2 his older siblings where giving him smokes before he could walk ) untill age 40 if he can quit any one can so as far as i am concerned it shows lazyness and a lack of health conciosness to NOT quit thus they are not some one I want to be with | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 12:24:11 AM | I find it absolutely disgusting and nothing will cover up the stench...your clothes, car, house, breath, sweat, mints, etc. I have always made a rule of not dating even occasional smokers but ONCE I did and it was the worst 3 weeks period. She'd be at my place and then go out on my deck and come back in and want to cuddle while all I could focus on was her smelly breath, clothes, etc and even the smell of the air after she wal;ked by me. Even worse was how she thought by just chewing gum or brushing her teath made it all go away.
I'm a NON SMOKER and will only date other NON SMOKERS. It may sound like setting rules but it's a huge lifestyle issue with me. Also, I would never expect someone to quit just for me. That'll never work. She would need to want to quit for herself and quite frankly, when a woman lights up I immediately walk away. It's a shame too as I am sure that many of these women have lots to offer but it's just the way it is for me. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 7:10:45 AM |
7) IF a person was of an older generation I understand the smoking thing - however my father smoked from age 2 ( YES 2 his older siblings where giving him smokes before he could walk ) untill age 40 if he can quit any one can so as far as i am concerned it shows lazyness and a lack of health conciosness to NOT quit thus they are not some one I want to be with
In my case the smoking is the lessor of two evils.I chose the smoking in order to NOT endure the other.Much worse believe me | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 7:41:29 AM | | ok Bottom line, I won't date someone who smokes. sorry, but my health is at risk and i do not like kissing a girl who does. I won't make exceptions sorry! but Health before Sex! | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 7:52:34 AM | but most women theoretically are embodied to be compassionate with those that need a crutch.
Haven't you heard? We're getting over that these days. Something about looking for mates, not children, strength, not weakness, blah, blah, blah. ;) Kidding! Mostly...
Let's face it. Smoking is smelly, self-destructive, and a waste of money. We *have* to expect that to throw up insurmountable red flags for at least a few people!
Got a light?
~Thunder | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 8:06:17 AM |
ok Bottom line, I won't date someone who smokes. sorry, but my health is at risk and i do not like kissing a girl who does. I won't make exceptions sorry! but Health before Sex!
Then you won"t mind not driving your car so as to respect other peoples health.And in your case don"t walk run or drive through your local shoppig malls.
That vehicle is 1000 times as deadly as any smoker.,STOP POISONING THEM !!!!!!!Keep your vehicle 1000 ft from your residence as well.But oh well your not THAT interested are you? | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 8:21:22 AM | What kind of a remark is that?
what the hell does that have to do with women and smoking?? i'm not kissing the exhaust of a car! I'm not having to sit in a closed room with a car while it runs!
that is such a retarded remark!... | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 9:04:41 AM | | I've gotten more responses since I quit smoking. A guy that stopped talking to me due to my smoking is talking to me again. I understand why people dont want to be around smokers, it's not only unhealthy for you but also for them. | |
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| Dear Ladies: I beg to raise the smoking issue?
Posted: 7/13/2006 9:21:46 AM |
What kind of a remark is that?
what the hell does that have to do with women and smoking?? i'm not kissing the exhaust of a car! I'm not having to sit in a closed room with a car while it runs!
that is such a retarded remarhat kind of a remark is that?
what the hell does that have to do with women and smoking?? i'm not kissing the exhaust of a car! I'm not having to sit in a closed room with a car while it runs!
that is such a retarded remarhat kind of a remark is that?
what the hell does that have to do with women and smoking?? i'm not kissing the exhaust of a car! I'm not having to sit in a closed room with a car while it runs!
that is such a retarded remar
Actually it has quite a bit to do with it and you.You seem to be concerned with (Your) health.Yet it is, in your eyes, perfectly alright to poison everyone else as you drive you stinking poisonous vehicle to pick her up.Hpw many hundred people get a taste of your exhauxt fumes as you drive merrily on you way.Not to mention the lady you are dating
Are you not as comcerned for her health?
I"d say it had quite a bit to do with it | |
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