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Posted: 7/14/2006 5:11:28 PM | They may feel deep down that they do not truly enjoy it, and feel a sort of sadness: A kind of mourning perhaps, about the loss of (their) innocence, and sadness about the way porn objectfies, degrades and reduces humans (both men and women alike) to mere sex robots.
Religion has driven deeply into our society that sex is a bad thing. This is why people might feel that way.
Its ridiculous. I love porn. Always have, always will. Sex is awsome and is the most natural thing that can occur between people.
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Posted: 7/14/2006 5:17:00 PM | Agreed. The funny thing is, as I got out on my own, and started dating folks who didn't have a problem with it, my desire for it decreased.
Being forbidden made it seem like an obsession. When it was no big deal? The "addiction" went away. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 5:22:38 PM | | I can relate, Its like when I see a fire hydrant.... man do I ever want to park beside it. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 9:46:08 PM | Always Smiling35, just in response to your post, just wanted to make it clear:
I am NOT religious. Religion is definately NOT required to be a person who has values.
I do NOT think sex is bad, AU CONTRAIRE! I think sex is wonderful, healthy and one of life's greatest pleasures. However, porn and sex are NOT the same thing!!!!!! They are worlds apart. It's like noise pollution and music. Just totally different.
I knew that there would be quite a lot of misunderstanding here since this is a complex topic, so I just wanted to clarify. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 9:55:08 PM |
I am NOT religious. Religion is definately NOT required to be a person who has values. I do NOT think sex is bad, AU CONTRAIRE! I think sex is wonderful, healthy and one of life's greatest pleasures. However, porn and sex are NOT the same thing!!!!!! They are worlds apart. It's like noise pollution and music. Just totally different. I knew that there would be quite a lot of misunderstanding here since this is a complex topic, so I just wanted to clarify. - lonely_laydey
I don't know your background, and I'm not trying to speculate, but I would like to point out that one does not need to be personally religious in order to have one's values overshadowed or colored by religion. You may not be a religious person now, but if you were raised by a deeply conservative family, even if that family was only nominally religious, it can profoundly shape the way you think and look at the world.
Of course porn and sex aren't the same thing. One is something you observe. The other is something you do.
Porn is not noise pollution. It's entertainment. It can also enhance sex. Yes, there are some people who abuse it, just like there are some people who abuse alcohol, or become addicted to work or golf or video games. Anything that replaces life can be bad, including religion. But that doesn't mean that those things are inherently wrong. It just means that human beings can @#$@# up anything they do, if they try hard enough.
You are inflicting a tremendous amount of unnecessary guilt on yourself. You are engaging in one of the safest forms of sex, learning about your body through masturbation, learning what pleases you and are not at risk for disease or pregnancy.
Chill out, and enjoy yourself.
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Posted: 7/14/2006 10:09:11 PM | Some more responses to specific posts:
Nos800, yes two people having sex is natural. Two people having sex, getting PAID to do it, doing it in a porno, is not natural. It's very artificial, unreal and fake. And, you are wrong, at least in my case, that my discomfort with porn is about having "hang-ups" about my body. I am very comfortable with it, actually. I think you missed what exactly it is that bothers me about porn (explained in my previous posts).
And I don't think porn has anything to teach about a person's fantasies. It actually DICTATES to you what your fantasies should be. If you are looking for fantasies, look within your own imagination. Like Ontario, it's yours to discover! haha! (Ontarians would understand that one..lol). And if people are looking to learn about sex, try a sexual health book (it even teaches you all the erogenous zones of both males and females...well, a good one would, at least, hehe). It's much more accurate and REAL than porn could ever be.
sinsrus, I have no comment other than if you think this thread is incorrect due to it being an "urban legend", then it really perplexes me as to why you'd even bother to read such a thread with which you blatantly disagree. But thanks for reading it nonetheless.
Leeane, No it's quite the opposite. I have no fears of intimacy whatsoever (in fact, porn actually makes one fear intimacy and can reduce one to only "interacting" with porn and not REAL human people!!!!!). I also have a very healthy view of sex, in that I find it great! (as long as it's only with my beloved boyfriend!). I think you might've misunderstood or I wasn't clear enough. Thank you for the post! And yeah, it is awful to be one of those people you describe (who fear intimacy and think sex is bad)....VERY awful indeed.
clematis, you got my point bang-on! Exactly what I meant. Thank you..
fireflyfellow, you totally understood what I was trying to say. You put what I feel into words very eloquently! Thank you!
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Posted: 7/14/2006 10:14:13 PM | Just out of curiosity, lonely_laydey, did you just come here to garner reassurance and ammunition that you were right, and pornography is bad, bad, BAD?
Because you only appear to be applauding people who confirm your suspicions, no matter what their reasoning, and shooting down people who disagree with you.
If you only want people to agree with you, fine. You're right. Porn is dirty and degrading, and you're a horrible person for using it.
Feel better? | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 10:27:29 PM | Molonel, again I feel you've missed my point. NO, I did NOT post this to garner reassurance and ammunition that porn is "bad, bad, BAD." I just wanted a discussion. I am not looking for ANYTHING. I do think that at times I find porn to be addictive and I don't think I am bad person AT ALL nor do I think ANYONE is "bad" for watching porn!
Why must everything be "good" and "bad". I don't see it that way... I just think porn is unhealthy and addictive. And I believe that people might want to think about what they are feeding their minds while watching it.
I have the right to my opinions, and I have the right to disagree, just as you do. I do respect your opinion and that of everyone else who posted. You CAN disagree with and still respect an opinion. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 10:46:41 PM | Molonel, again I feel you've missed my point. NO, I did NOT post this to garner reassurance and ammunition that porn is "bad, bad, BAD." I just wanted a discussion. I am not looking for ANYTHING. I do think that at times I find porn to be addictive and I don't think I am bad person AT ALL nor do I think ANYONE is "bad" for watching porn! - lonely_laydey
No, I think this is what you want to hear. You've virtually ignored any intelligent commentary on the usefulness and usually the harmlessness of pornography.
So ...
You're an awful person. You're sexually selfish. You watch movies that degrade other human beings, and dare to derive pleasure from it. You masturbate instead of saving up your sexual desire and energy for your boyfriend. I'll bet you even FANTASIZE about other men. And maybe ... other women?
You're filthy, nasty and dirty. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Why must everything be "good" and "bad". I don't see it that way... I just think porn is unhealthy and addictive. And I believe that people might want to think about what they are feeding their minds while watching it. - lonely_laydey
You set the tone for the discussion, darling. It's unhealthy and addictive, and bad to be putting in your mind. You feel guilty, and nothing is going to dissuade you of that.
I have the right to my opinions, and I have the right to disagree, just as you do. I do respect your opinion and that of everyone else who posted. You CAN disagree with and still respect an opinion. - lonely_laydey
Shall I break out the guitar, and we can all sing a rousing chorus of Kumbaya? I don't care about your abstract, theoretical respect. You aren't engaging people who disagree with you in any meaningful sense. You've clearly made up your mind, and I don't quite understand why you even started the thread. If you want to show some "respect" then start actually treating people whose opinions disagree with yours as if their opinions are something worth engaging, instead of dismissing them with a wave.
That's REAL respect.
I think you just wanted to hear whatever confirms your own self-flagellant view on pornography.
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Posted: 7/14/2006 10:59:52 PM | Well, Molonel, thank you for re-iterating yourself, despite the fact that I did quite clearly understand your point the first time.
And please, I do not need a lecture about "REAL respect" coming from someone who is clearly mocking my point of view! (example: the whole Kumbaya bit)
You know what, I will not sink to your level. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read my posts. If you don't like this thread, no one is forcing you to keep coming back. I hope you have that clear.
And yes, something will dissuade my feeling guilty: I can choose to overcome this addiction. Plain and simple. I just thought it's an interesting topic that does not get frequently talked about. That was the reason for my post.
You seem to have a real problem with the fact that a person can disagree quite strongly with someone yet still respect their opinion. I did not ignore any post on here, I just simply disagreed with it.
And lastly, I don't set the tone for the discussion. Because a discussion needs more than one person, therefore they all collectively bring their own tones to the discussion. There is no "set" tone.
And most of all, I disagree that porn is "useful" or "harmless". And I value when a person stands up for what they believe in. And that is what I am doing. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 11:22:10 PM | I still think what you thread caused is a very interesting reaction.
There is like 780 visits, 27 postings if I counted right, and regarding your question:
Some statistics say females are increasingly becoming consumers of porn, and I personally believe that this is indeed the case, however no one seems to talk about it. Why is that?
3 answers, (2, 11, and 20) but I would say you should be happy at least you got some responses... :) It is about sex, so it is expected.
As for me, I would like to answer, but I'm not a woman and have no data whatsoever regarding this matter, only could say that I prefer to watch tom & Jerry, as porn the few times I saw it was more boring than sucking a nail, and have never been with a girl that was attracted to porn, but then again is not like I have been with that many girls anyway, so my opinion would be speculative... :) | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 11:23:02 PM |
Well, Molonel, thank you for re-iterating yourself, despite the fact that I did quite clearly understand your point the first time. - lonely_laydey
If you've done anything except reiterate your initial point, and agree with people who agree with you, then I've missed it.
If you're going to repeat yourself, I don't see why I should feel the burden to do otherwise.
And please, I do not need a lecture about "REAL respect" coming from someone who is clearly mocking my point of view! (example: the whole Kumbaya bit) - lonely_laydey
You get what you give. It took me six posts to reach that point of frustration. You want real respect? Then offer it. Don't just SAY you offer it.
You know what, I will not sink to your level. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read my posts. If you don't like this thread, no one is forcing you to keep coming back. I hope you have that clear. - lonely_laydey
Clear as crystal. Now, heed your own advice. If you don't like what i have to say, then don't read my posts. Nobody is forcing you to interact with me, or reply to me. You do that of your own free will.
I hope you have that clear.
And yes, something will dissuade my feeling guilty: I can choose to overcome this addiction. Plain and simple. I just thought it's an interesting topic that does not get frequently talked about. That was the reason for my post. - lonely_laydey
Right. Like I said, your mind is already made up. It's bad, bad, BAD!
I hope you enjoy your guilt, and pissing away the years of your sexual prime flogging yourself. Someday, you're going to learn it wasn't that big of deal, and regret the wasted time you spent sneering at yourself.
You seem to have a real problem with the fact that a person can disagree quite strongly with someone yet still respect their opinion. I did not ignore any post on here, I just simply disagreed with it. - lonely_laydey
I respect well-crafted, articulate and intelligent opinions that can weather criticism, and remain sound. I don't respect someone's opinion simply because they hold it, and it belongs to them. Since your opinion cannot, evidently, hold up except by ignoring opposing views, and patting people on the back who agree with you, I conclude that your mind is already made up, and any pretense of an exchange of ideas is just that: a pretense.
And lastly, I don't set the tone for the discussion. Because a discussion needs more than one person, therefore they all collectively bring their own tones to the discussion. There is no "set" tone. - lonely_laydey
Yes, you did set the tone for it. The discussion was started by you. Since most people respond to you, then respond to your tone and direction. Conversations are made up of many people, but your position as OP is unique. It may eventually move beyond you, but right now it's still firmly set in the vein where you laid it.
And most of all, I disagree that porn is "useful" or "harmless". And I value when a person stands up for what they believe in. And that is what I am doing. - lonely_laydey
I, also, am standing up for what I believe in. Pornography is like alcohol. Yes, there are some people who abuse it. But there are more people for every person who abuses it who find it stimulating, but not addictive or life-killing.
Right now, you are still going through all kinds of changes. Unlike some people who said you didn't like sex, I imagine your body is actually extremely sensitive and geared for it. That is why you need the outlet, and why you enjoy the stimulation.
It's a pity, too, because the longer you associate your feelings and sexuality with this kind of guilt, the more you're going to poison the well. I've had friends who started out in exactly the same place, and ended up frigid.
That would be a damn shame, especially since you're not doing anything wrong. You are being a responsible adult with your sexuality.
I wish you could see that. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2006 11:40:49 PM | No, not THAT kind of sacred :/
Love is sacred! Between two people and not just physical - mentally and emotionally and for all the little future bits. Not JUST our bodies... Now, translate that all into physical expression. How on earth does that compare with porn?
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Posted: 7/14/2006 11:50:16 PM | However, I guess that it serves it's purpose - mostly for guys. But, guys - don't get so hooked on it that you think that's what an ideal physical relationship should be!!! Just my opinion.
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Posted: 7/15/2006 3:39:22 AM | I find it fascinating that many men can look and not see the fact that SOME of the female participants are just too young too wasted or too dim to be enjoying what they are doing.
And guys if she doesn't stop chewing her gum - then it's a good bet she's not enjoying it.
They never kiss - for me a long lingering kiss is much more erotic tham two or more bits of meat banging.
Plus a good erotic story wins hands down (pun intended).
Purely in the interests of knowledge (yeah u believe me don'tcha) I trawled through loads of porn (I actually think its funny to watch - all those uncomfortable showing your bits positions lol) the other day and the only bit I found that I liked was this...
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=rasit.erolog.nl_****balloon.wmv
why ... because they were obviously consenting adults and they were enjoying themselves - it's not particularly erotic - but goddam it's real.... | |
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Posted: 7/15/2006 3:56:39 AM | ^^^^alipallyoops you piqued my curiosity...but got an error. Dammit | |
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Posted: 7/15/2006 4:15:12 AM | SomethingforKate - pof must have screwed with the address because of the p u ss y word hang on...
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat
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Try that as a cut and paste or just go to yourfilehost.com and search for p u s s y balloon.
It's a scream.. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2006 4:57:03 AM |
Don't think I'm not good in bed. I'm a f.ucking godess.
Thats cute. So being good in bed means a woman is a goddess? At 24? | |
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Posted: 7/15/2006 5:46:34 AM | | ashamed with themselves for watching porn but addicted to it hmmmm I can't understand that. I have a huge collection of porn cos I love it. You tell ppl like Jenna Jameson and Sunset Thomas that they're mere sex robots I think they would be laughing all the way to the bank. I think it all depends on how a person has been brought up and how comfortable they are with masturbation and talking about it as to whether they have porn. I think that also some women date men and find out they have porn and become almost jealous of it and show disgust... come on ladies it's only fantasy have fun together and make your own haha xjx | |
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Posted: 7/15/2006 9:14:47 PM | It's just when it ends up in the public domain via the internet that it's an obvious betrayal of trust and so not very nice...
otherwise go for it - but remember to stay in possession of the only copy girls. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2006 10:26:16 PM | My female roommate, who claims to be 18, watches porn all the time. What surprises me is that she is into hard porn. Like the really hard stuff: gaging/puking, gaping, dp, ATM etc...
What did American culture do to these girls???? | |
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Posted: 7/16/2006 7:27:13 AM | I agree with some of your observations on porn and junk food. and I share some of your feelings....erotica is really kool, but the overwhelming majority of porn is commercial garbage where many of the participants are 'victims of circumstance' who are being used and taken advantage of. So while my voyeuristic side enjoys it and watching the sex is arousing and a turn on, I often have negative side feelings about having lowered myself to watch it, I feel as though I've condoned the nastier side of the porn industry. I accept it, because I have needs and the real problems stem from the hypocritical and sexually repressive elements within our society like religions and churches which try to severely restrict and police peoples normal sexual urges and activities and attach false morality to sexual desires and promiscuity. Just my two cents. | |
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Posted: 7/16/2006 8:11:00 AM | To keepingit: You should take my word for it. I'm sure past lovers of mine would agree.
Anyway, back to topic:
Porn Too much Porn | |
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Posted: 7/16/2006 9:05:26 AM | | If porn is with grown up adults who have consented to make a film then sorry but sex is and always will be part of humman nature. watching porn is a turn on and can actually help educate and spice up a flagging sex life with ur partner (if u have one obviously). If you find porn disgusting ................... my advice dont watch it then ...... simple!!!!! as for having to watch porn to masterbate .................. get an imagination if u really dont like porn that much. Watching porn / others having sex is part of ur natural curiosity for things in life. but like i said if u really dislike it dont watch it ........its that simple. As for girls not liking porn guys i think ud be surprised. | |
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