Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 26 | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 8:58:21 PM | Hmm, no, but no one is disputing is that the actors of this thing were religous fundamentalists.
And MY point is that Christian fundamentalists are not doing these things, ergo, there are worse ideas and philosophies than the Christian's, which people are very anxious to rag on. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:04:41 PM | | you're right. christians are more subtle. they would rather secretly pass a law than blow up a building. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 28 | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:07:04 PM | | Secretly pass a law? Spoken by a true liberal. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:09:51 PM | that made me laugh!  | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:11:56 PM | Careful Loukus...
Tygre138 seems smart, subtle in his wit, makes excellent points (you may not get all of 'em, but they are) and doesn't seem thrown by your relatively juvenile attempts at sounding all puffed up and intellectual (ergo, in this context, is to pretentious what pork rinds and beer are to Superbowl snacks).
So just go carefully, or he might just do the rhetorical equivalent of tearing you a new one, ya know?
And no need to mention it, Loukus, I know...I'm dead to you...
I do this soley in your own interests though. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:20:54 PM | | ....and i didn't even think i was THAT good! | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:23:48 PM | | Woodrow, why do you pick on Loukus all the time? If you don't agree with someone that is fine, but that dosent mean you have to harass them. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:28:16 PM | | i thought he was giving me a compliment. :( | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 10:21:12 PM | Woodrow, why do you pick on Loukus all the time? If you don't agree with someone that is fine, but that dosent mean you have to harass them.
I haven't picked on Loukus RDtoo. And harass? Give me a break. He responds, I respond. Oh, and here are some of his 'responses' that I've been so terrible to pick on him about...
"No. You're just... wrong. I've never seen anything come out of your posts that was either noteworthy or worthwhile."
"Perfect example of your typical waste of time."
"You are niether enriching, nor interesting.
"'You are an idiot', is the clearest I can put that. Perhaps if I didn't actually think so, I'd be interested in besting you on the field of clever satire. As it is, you just plain suck, ass."
"Not even worthy of a response, you really are just the biggest ass I have ever met online, or otherwise, and that's not a statement to be taken lightly."
Now...you're telling me that I'm picking on him? Goading...yes. But picking? The guy writes his own ticket.
He makes two kinds of posts that I feel compelled to respond to.
1...entirely dismissive.
2...entirely inaccurate.
In the case of number one, when he refers to people as idiots or their points as being somehow not worthy of his response...I take him to task. Like..."If ( you )really think that, you are an idiot."
In the case of number two, I tend to point out the problems with the assumptions. Check out the 'why are christians pushing their beliefs on others' thread. Where Cool-hand talks about the need for a leader to be a good orator. Excellent point. It's when he spouts off about gay marriage, or abortion or whatever else he's so sure about (and in my opinion, wrong) that we occasionally get into a bit of a thing with.
I've taken the p!ss out of cool-hand in two threads lately. The one that we really went on with, he gave back...he got back.
And, personally, I believe his reactions deserved all the contempt he received.
This one too, he's trying one line dismissives with 'ergo' ? He wants to sound a pretentious little kid, he can be treated as such. It's part of the package.
The thing is, personally, I think he's probably a nice enough guy, a tad misguided and fairly naive, but nice enough. However, when he comes in to a debate with either #1 or #2 as what he offers...well...
I don't seek Cool-hand out, any more than I seek out Mikey. But I've seen enough invective, ignorance and out and out aggression on the right hand side of the table long enough. I'm not putting verbal kid-gloves on just for the sake of politesse...and personally, not to blow my own horn, but if you look around at the examples of 'picking on' and 'harassing' done on these threads (by both left and right)...it's childish and pathetic "you suck" "so does your mom", "hi 'your mum'", etc... What I do is hardly picking on. It's verbally spanking a child. No one need get hurt, and it may embarrass the child, but if that's the case, maybe he'll learn not to call people 'idiots' in public.
I think, you and I, when we've had differences, I've been pretty up front in my disagreement, bu also in my respect for what you're saying. You make, if memory serves, pretty well thought out and decent points. I've said so. I'm know Loukus makes good points too, sometimes, but when he's so into the cutesy "i'm above you, ergo, I don't need to say more" stuff....he's fair game.
The same quarter wouldn't be given by the folks right of centre here if the roles were reversed, so why am I to do the same with him?
RDtoo, this may seem a detailed post for a short response, but give me a break. I don't disagree that my style of discourse can be pretty harsh at times, but I don't pick on him. Or harass him. He gets taken to task...that's all.
Oh, and yeah, tygre, really and truly this was all about saying "good point man"...and waiting to hear if there was a response...it was " Spoken by a true liberal." Oh, but THAT'S not asking for a response... | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 10:46:49 PM | | I suppose I would goad someone too if they told me that I suck ass. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 10:57:47 PM | Hell, I'm not saying I do...I'm not saying I don't...
What I really was saying though, RDtoo, is that I'd prefer to think you didn't consider me someone who would harass or pick on someone...
Or if pick on really was the case, that there wasn't a d*mned good reason why. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 11:04:28 PM | You expose ill-concieved statements, ....if this is taken as a personal attack?
Speaks volumes, ......
No? | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 5:23:23 AM | (about sucking ass; loukus, RDtoo, some people actually like to suck ass.)
mr. woodrow, i thank you for your encouraging words. you are indeed an articulate and learned man. heh, and a brother scorpio. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 6:26:25 AM | | HEY!! it's the pretty red-haired girl, AND fellow scorpio! | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 10:42:51 PM | Woodrow, to be honest, yes, I did think you were picking on him, which surprised me because you give pretty good debates without resorting to that. By the way, thanks for the compliment. When you listed examples of some of the comments you received like "suck ass", I acknowledged that I would do the same as you if I was getting that kind of reply.
I do know what you mean about the cutesy comments. I am not talking about Loukus here, but I have read some comments by Christians on this site where I thought to myself "No wonder they think we are a bunch of idiots". | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 11:35:24 PM | the 10 commendmant monument was being removed from a texas state courthouse, a judge was fired behind not removing it as it was considered to be a violation of the "seperation of church and state"
problem i see with all this nonsense is that our country has very little history to begin with and what little history we do have is being wiped out by this massive disease i call politically correctitis. the same court house that removed that monument also asks people to place their hand on a bible and repeat the words "i swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me god." SO HELP ME WHO? GOD!
last time i spent some of my US money... it all said "in god we trust" on it and i ain't givin' it back because of that! are those dumbasses that are removing monuments not accepting their paychecks or spending their money anymore cause if their not... i accept checks, money orders, visa, master card and american express... oh, i have a paypal account they can dump all their dirty "god" money into as well.
CA is spending millions of dollars to change the state seal for these same reasons and i think it's all a bunch of crap. don't we have better things in this world to worry about than who says the pledge of allegience, what's printed on our money, which monuments are where, etc!!! fVck! i wish i had time to tell the world about all the little stupid things i don't like and want changed... funny... i learned how to pick my battles years ago and i couldn't care less about where someone puts a freakin' monument that outlines the 10 freakin' commandments!!! put it on my balcony for christ's sake!!! it'll give me something to read when i go out there to toss an egg at the guy who honks his horn constantly every saturday morning! | |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 5:32:19 PM | Basing anything on the assumptions that the Bible and its contents are valid and transcend everything seems silly to me. Besides, the 10 commandments come from the story of the Exodus which has so far eluded any archeological proof. There is no trace of a large group of people travelling through that area - and if there was, archeologists would have found the evidence.
Also, Egyptian ruins show no records of mass slavery of any people, let alone the Isrealites who weren't that important at that time in history.
So, the moral of the story? The 10 Commandments come from an ancient fairy tale.
Also, the story of Noah and his Arc are based on an older story of Gilgamesh (if I'm remembering the name right) Anyways, Gilgamesh's story was more believable.
Philosophers and those who study human behaviour should create laws that best suit the populace. At least there'd be sense in that. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 45 | |
| god is law
Posted: 3/5/2005 7:21:44 PM | Point blank, Woodrow is a cad, and an ass, and we have a history that extends further than whatever posts you've read in the past few weeks.
The liberals here quickly gather to his crap like flies, as they are quite fond of agreeing with each other and patting themselves on the back, whilst in the real world they lose elections.
And that's about all I care to say on the subject. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 46 | |
| god is law
Posted: 3/5/2005 8:07:00 PM | you know loukus... it baffles me that you claim to be a "christian" yet you HATE everyone that doesn't agree with you which confirms for me that "your way" is not the way to go. it sadens me to see someone like you so filled with hate.
well, it baffles me how much you all suck. Call it Christian compassion that causes me to even care enough to say something
Edit:: also, that comment about me hating people I disagree with is more or less unfounded... I only hate woodrow. And that's because he's an idiot, not because he believes what he does. | |
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Loukus
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Joined: 2/15/2004
Msg: 47 | |
| god is law
Posted: 3/5/2005 8:32:23 PM | | yeah, well, his "way" is basically being tongue in cheek, and banging on the table so that he doesn't have to say anything that is actually important. | |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 9:44:59 PM | | Loukus, I have to point out that saying you hate someone and that someone sucks, is really out of character for a Christian. I am not saying that Christians do not have the same emotions as everyone else, but I really think you need to remember that Jesus said that the measure you use to judge will be the same measure used to judge you. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2005 12:19:50 AM | | loukus, dude, cool off a little. calm down, get a girlfriend or something.....by the way, i thought christians didn't hate. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2005 12:21:39 AM | | ....oh yeah, and the way, thank the lord and praise jesus and all that...... | |
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