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| Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany
Posted: 7/16/2006 8:08:15 PM | Gotta love the trolling......speaking of which, welcome to the party amishpornstar. Gosh, for just having signed up yesterday, you sure seem to know an awful lot about these forums and their posters......
Noticed that too, eh? That new "warmonger" seems to have the same condition. 
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Posted: 7/16/2006 8:29:50 PM |
Hey violetskye dont worry about what i do !!! Its well known POF is a soapbox for liberals...im not gonna get in a net fight with the dozens of nutjobs who wont accept facts, reality and so forth. when u see 8 leftists attack one person over something as stupid as calling america the next nazi regime how can you argue a point with mental ppl who have i hate america syndrome on the brain ..its like argueing with schizo's that the voices in their heads are not there
Hah... why would I worry about you?
Some of us are merely asking why you can't post anything of substance, but instead come running into threads and use terms like 'libby', 'nutjob', 'stupid', 'mental', 'schizo', and so forth and not post one single fact or statement relevant to the subject at hand.
Tell me, where do you see anywhere in this thread someone stating they hate America? Many are in here merely answering questions. I've yet to see you post an answer relevant to anything. Just come running in here like a little kid saying, 'Nanny nanny boo boo', and run back out. | |
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| Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany
Posted: 7/16/2006 8:54:44 PM | | The swift boat ads were created by a man that John Kerry destroyed in debate on the old****Cavitt show. This man had been recruited by the Nixon dirty tricks team to answer Kerry's charges about the Viet Nam war. Nightline exposed the whole series of ads as lies. When that group had to expose who had paid for the ads, the largest contributor was one Alice Walton to the tune of over two million dollars. The Waltons are the greatest beneficieries of Bush's trade policy with China and our increasing federal deficit. We borrow money from China and allow them our markets. 70% of the products sold in Wal-mart are from China. This may have been less about military service and more about revenge and greed. | |
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Posted: 7/16/2006 9:05:56 PM | leif 333 ,
Your exactly right! But you can not reason with those that will not be reasoned with.
I do not want to be classified as conservative or liberal, its not that black and white, and its not up to me to determine who or what is censored, I am a sociologist by education, so unfortunately I have had the oppurtunity to learn about people,
Who was it, Solomon?, who said "with great knowledge comes great sorrow" I feel like I know what he as talking about, human nature is a scary thing. I think 8 years of study has made me very cynical.
When our government becomes oppressive? We have no idea what an oppressive government is, try living under the Taliban rule then talk to me about facism.
In the long run the war in Iraq may be a failure, but it should be our responsibility to nuetralize any threat against us no matter how small we may think it is. One rogue leader in a region is enough to cause great disaster ie. Adolf Hitler
So how do you make peace with someone who considers you the Devil, who are taught from birth you are the devil and the great Satan, whose one goal is to run you into the sea with no remorse and in the name of God, who believe they will be rewarded in the afterlife for killing infidels,
I am a believer in more goverment control, I want to feel safe, I want to be able to get on a plane and not worry about the persian sitting beside me, I want to feel safe again, if I have to give up some freedoms for this, then so be it! My peace of mind is worth it.
If you put any stake in the christian religion, and the book of revelation, you know there is no hope for peace,
an indoctrined people is a dangerous people, would you comprimise your beliefs, I think not, your willing to go to jail over freedom of speech, imagine giving up your deep rooted religious convictions.
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Posted: 7/16/2006 11:00:37 PM | Really I do not have the answer about the problem of Islam. We are talking a Religion that original spread itself through military conquest. But the part about calling us the great Satan is just factions of Islam. Some Muslims believe in peace and nonviolence. I have been exposed to many cultures in this country. One thing I have learned is that there are good bad, foolish, wise and all points in between in any culture. How to best do this I do not know but somehow we need to find ways to support the good and wise people in Islam and stop the ones that want to murder us and destroy our society.
No we are not as oppressive as some but that does not excuse the ways we are oppressive. Right now I really don't have to worry about it personally because I am going for the norm thing. But I have experienced a lot of oppression in this country. I use to be a long hair Hipster. I won't get into my legalization issues. That is on another thread. But I can't count the number of times I have been stopped and had Cops feel my whole body and one even fondle me nuts. I have been cursed, had them grab my fingers and threaten to break them off if I moved. Been in prison for over a year waiting to go to court for something I didn't do. I have had a gun pointed to my head twice. Once for walking down the streets towards a cop with my hand in my back pocket. Once for getting out of a car when I fit the description of someone else who robbed a store. I have been in jail and told by a judge that if I don't plead guilty to something I didn't do I would be put in Jail for a couple of months awaiting trial while if I plead guilty I will be let out today. That is just what comes to mind. Like I have said I know about poverty and the positive counter cultures in this country and the oppression they experience. I also was young and dumb and got caught with a Van full of marijuana I found growing wild in a corn field. I was not involved with a gang or under ground or any thing like that. I knew better than that. I was just going to take it to a bunch of hippies and we were going to do the Hippie thing with it. Now as the law stands today I will never have the rights you do. I will have it on my record for the rest of my life with no way short of a Governors pardon to get it off. I am not allowed to work many jobs by law and many jobs won't hire me because of my record. I am not allowed to own a gun to protect my home. I have been turn down Government housing because of it. Even my last Girl friend was not suppose to date me because she worked for the Police department as a dispatcher. They have even taken my right to be friends with certain people. It does not matter that I am reformed. So yes I do feel oppressed in this country. All because I picked a plant growing wild in a Corn Field that is found to be one of the safest intoxicants out there. I know many people who are middle class and followed the norm have never experienced oppression in this country. But that doesn't mean it does not happen. I can respect your belief in Government controls. I will disagree with you but understand your point. The problem is that it is not just a few freedoms. More and more freedoms are taken and it never stops. I have also have been around subcultures that didn't have the Government around to control them and found that people found ways to govern them selves. Just try a Grateful dead lot. Personally I feel it is the Governments job to protect its citizens from physical harm, protect property and perform public service. So as long as I am not threatening a citizen physical harm in any way or stealing property it is no ones business what I do or how I live my life. As far as revelation it is written in such a way that it could mean anything. There is also some belief by historians that it was not a prophecy about modern age but was discussing the Roman empire of the day. I think it is fatalistic to say the world will end and use that as an excuse not to try and strive for world peace. If you read your bible it also says no one knows the day or hour Christ will come. I also think it is irresponsible to just think that Jesus will come down and straighten out all our messes. God gave us this world and Jesus told us to pray for Gods will to be done on earth as it is in heaven. Perhaps we have been fighting the battle of Armageddon for centuries and Jesus will come down when we get it right and win. Yet perhaps you are right. I have wondered if Islam and the rest of the world are going to butt heads and destroy the world and then Christ comes. But I think we need to do what we can to prevent it.
My main concern about this Government is when I heard they passed a law that they can take due process of law away from American citizens. It is a recipe for disaster and a complete disregard of the constitution. If they do that what is next and how far will they go
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Posted: 7/16/2006 11:37:55 PM | leif 333
If you believe we have ever had a true due process of law then you are an idealist, which is not bad, I wish the whole world were idealist then we wouldnt be having this conversation.
There are many people in this country and every country that have been persecuted because they are different, how about the 60's we were more like Nazi Germany then, defiant Governors trying to stop integration, what about the extermination of the Indians,
You have had some bad luck, but hey, all of us have had some, you have a criminal record, sorry about that, but that will shut the doors for you to a lot of places whether it was a wrongful conviction or not.
We all have a choice we know right from wrong, and if we choose to place ourselves in or around a person or place that is at risk for us to be wrongfully or rightfully accused, that is our own fault, most of us are lucky and escape our youth, some like yourself are not.
And if we are in a postion that due process is taken away from us then so be it, we know the consequnces of our actions.
Blaming our government for our mistakes? hmmm
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| Is the USA in danger of becoming as bad as Nazi Germany
Posted: 7/16/2006 11:56:59 PM | I am a believer in more goverment control, I want to feel safe, I want to be able to get on a plane and not worry about the persian sitting beside me, I want to feel safe again, if I have to give up some freedoms for this, then so be it! My peace of mind is worth it.
Is it really necessary to give up the freedoms that are being eroded to achieve that peace of mind?
Is the slow march towards an authoritarian state that seems to be occuring really the answer?
The excuse for this evolution has been modern terrorism (which is not any different from the terrorism of the past but we need to draw the "time" line somewhere).
This, terrorism as we know it today, has been occurring for almost 40 years and yet no western state has felt it necessary to so broadly encroach on the fundamental liberties of their nation to the extent we are seeing.
The main western recipients of terrorism over this time has been the Europeans (in fact, the vast majority of terrorist acts have occurred in developing countries but few of them have ever been known for their commitment to democratic freedoms so they are not good comparators).
The Europeans have, over time, taken many steps to increase their security. Metal detectors and armed guards appeared in their airports long before it happened in the US. The European countries had dedicated anti-terrorism units long before the US. They strengthened their police presence and provided additional training in identifying potential terrorist threats long before that occurred in the US. They set their national security/intelligence assets to the task of tracking and arresting terrorists long before the US.
Yet, with all of the terrorist incidents that they have had to deal with they have always held that the essential liberties most important to their nations were more important than the risks of terrorism. They were, and are, willing to accept that risk in order to maintain those.
The people and gov'ts of Europe have not stood idly by and simply allowed themselves to be targets. They have and continue to aggressively pursue terrorists the difference is that they treat them for what they are, criminals and do so within the fundamental principles of their nations. They have pursued terrorists, without creating laws that over-ride the fundamental governing principles of their countries, without usurping the rights of the people and without allowing their leaders to exceed the bounds of their lawful authority or expanding that lawful authority beyond what their fundamental principles dictate it should be. Captured terrorists are prosecuted according to the same criminal law as anyone who kills. They have remained determined to keep their lives as ordinary as possible, without fear and without sacrificing those ideals which are most important.
Europe did not see the "with us or with the terrorists" rhetoric, the divisive politics (at least no more divisive than has always been the case), the fear-mongering, the rabid and "how dare you question this you treasonous commie" nationalism, the racist demonization (at least no more than usual, European racism has traditionally centered around immigration but not "they're all terrorist b*astards who hate our freedom") that has been so fervently promoted in the US.
Above all else, they never felt the overwhelming need to declare "war on terror" or seek revenge and vengence. Justice for terrorism is what justice has always been for them, justice under the law and not something set apart from that.
The European attitude has been much more one of "sh*t happens, life goes on" than "eye for an eye/pound of flesh at any cost".
For almost 40 years the US gov'ts of the day have never seen the need to take the actions the current administration would have us believe are necessary now (and yes, there have been many attacks on US interests and the deaths thousands of American citizens during that time. As an illustration, between the end of 1980 and 2001 there have been 371 military deaths due to terrorism compared to 229 due to hostile (combat) action, almost 2/3 more due to terrorism. That's just the military, not civilians who are the primary targets of terrorism).
The relentless march to authoritarianism, to fascism, that we have been seeing is no more necessary now than it was then.
So what IS the purpose of the fear and division that is being sown, the slow but inexorable erosion of freedom and liberty? | |
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| Is the USA in danger of becoming as bad as Nazi Germany
Posted: 7/17/2006 12:01:16 AM |
I am a believer in more goverment control, I want to feel safe, I want to be able to get on a plane and not worry about the persian sitting beside me, I want to feel safe again, if I have to give up some freedoms for this, then so be it!
What about the persian sitting with you on a bus, or the persian cop pulling you
over, or the persian teacher? What about THEM?
Best thing and most practical thing is for you to pack your stuff and move into
the forest and live off the land. If you are this frightened that you feel
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Posted: 7/17/2006 7:22:40 AM | I am a believer in more goverment control, I want to feel safe, I want to be able to get on a plane and not worry about the persian sitting beside me, I want to feel safe again, if I have to give up some freedoms for this, then so be it!
Many americans would protest on the streets if their right to firearms (including automatics) was taken away.
Keeping a government list of what firearms you have ? Blasphemy.
Some americans would protest in the streets if they were forced to wear a motorcycle helmet.
Having a president that can order wiretaps on large numbers of people without oversight ?
That's critical to protecting the nation.
Keeping track of the books you check out of a library ?
The nation will fall without it.
Do you see the great irony here ?
I think comparing America's current state and the Nazi's insults history - and is just political gamesmanship. It's not far from what Rove might do.
I do remember that "old school" America, and how greatly I respected most of what it stood for. People could talk, and discussion was the key to success.
People had civil rights, and were the ones in control of the politicians.
Now, they control the population. They place fear in the hearts of people to bend them to their ways. They lie, and deceive, to continue their rule.
I trust one day that " old school" America returns, and it will be applauded by many all over the world when, and if, it ever does again.
America is much bigger and better than the politicians who claim to speak for it today, and who have turned it away from a long and worthy history. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 7:24:25 AM |
So how do you make peace with someone who considers you the Devil, who are taught from birth you are the devil and the great Satan, whose one goal is to run you into the sea with no remorse and in the name of God, who believe they will be rewarded in the afterlife for killing infidels
That's a load of hooey.
If you put any stake in the christian religion, and the book of revelation, you know there is no hope for peace, an indoctrined people is a dangerous people, would you comprimise your beliefs, I think not, your willing to go to jail over freedom of speech, imagine giving up your deep rooted religious convictions.
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Posted: 7/17/2006 7:43:25 AM | "If it weren't for us setting an example for what real democracy and socialism is,
America would have become a communist country long ago."
What???? Do you even know the meaning of socialism and communism? Hard to imagine after reading that. And be serious........Bob1485 may be a little over the top and combative re: Canada, but do you really think Canada is ANY kind of role model for the US? And if the US doesn't protect North America, who does? Canada....Mexico.....were that the case the terrorist would flocking to North America like flies on moose #$%*. Stand up for your country by all means but Bob didn't take the first shot and you know your response is based on emotion not logic or fact. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 8:14:39 AM | Bob: I was looking at my last post...
Well, what else can we say?
We're invading other nations half a world away which are not threats, we've exterminated millions of people in southeast asia afew years ago, we're occupying more than half the nations on earth with our military and running torture camps.
Sure sounds like that to me.
and then I read YOUR last post:
Anticon,
You poor drama queen. Every rogue nation that develops any weapons that may reach us or our allies is a threat.
and all I can think is "jeez... I'm just reiterating facts... and telling how it sounds to me... and he gets 'drama' and 'queen' out of it..."
Sorry, Bob.. it's just me... not an actor or a queen. Maybe you like to think of me this way but I'm sorry to disappoint you.
You have definately been watching the news, the spin doctors have you right where they want you!
Now wait a minute here, Bob... did I spin anything?
Isn't it true that:
1) We're invading other nations half a world away which are not threats,????
2) we've exterminated millions of people in southeast asia afew years ago, ????
3) we're occupying more than half the nations on earth with our military????
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4) running torture camps.?????
Instability in any region of the world is a threat and if ignored, the end results ie WWI, WWII, the US does not want WWIII
Then why isn't anyone else doing what we're doing?
Why do we have to tell the whole world what we want it to do?
Aren't we trying to contol the whole world?
How can you say this is not the case?
It is a shame there are so many naive people in this world, PEACE, LOVE, HAPPINESS! I wish it were that simple.
Naive you say?
You're the guy who's swallowing the Bush administration's policies hook line and sinker, my friend.
I never said war wasn't necessary. I never said we could eliminate all wars in today's world. In fact, I didn't say at all what you're saying I said above... You're accusing me of an argument I never made. Now, YOU'll say that because I don't agree with our policy of world domination by the Bush administration.... to push our friends around (or those who used to be our friends) as well as every other nation in the world around, it amounts to what you accused me of, but that's not really even close to being true. It's insulting that you would take that liberty to argue against arguments I never made.
You can not negotiate with indoctrined peoples, especially radical muslim nations in the middle east.
Well looky heah... we DO have to negotiate with them... whether it's the insurgents or the government we put in place.
Get that straight... or there will never be an end to this conflict.
We can't convert them all to Christianity... and even if we did: where would THAT get us?
Their main goal is to conquer the world and spread Islam.
Are we sure about this?
did Iraq ever attack US?
How can you be so sure of this when our military is right now over there attacking THEM?
What Christian nation was recently conquered by Muslims?
... I want to know.. pulleeeeze...
Israel will only have peace if they wipe the middle east from the map.
seeing as they're in the middle east themselves, i doubt they'd want that.
Which they will not do, we would not allow this.
If they nuked an Arab nation, what could we do to stop it?
We'd have to deal with the consequences wouldn't we?
(I doubt they'd do it, though... unlike the US, they realize it's stupid to brandish a nuclear threat [like dubyah], lest they become the victim of one themselves) | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 8:48:46 AM | "We all have a choice we know right from wrong, and if we choose to place ourselves in or around a person or place that is at risk for us to be wrongfully or rightfully accused, that is our own fault, most of us are lucky and escape our youth, some like yourself are not."
So if I live in a poor nationhood because that is all I can afford and a crack head shots me in the head when I am walking to work and am minding my own business that is my own fault. It really is the same thing. Or lets say the people who fought the American revolution deserved to die. If they just would have gone along with the English no one would have died. It is a poor excuse for social injustices that people like me have been fighting , yes since the country began. I know you are an intelligent and good person and are glad your bring this opinion to light because it is how a lot of people think. You live nice safe protected lives and think anyone that doesn't live the life you live deserve whatever they get. It doesn't affect me so why should I care. Just keep all those people over there under control. That thinking is a breeding ground for oppressive governments. A main problem is you in power the people who oppress those people over there and sooner or latter those type of people start to oppress everyone. You are right there were more social injustices in the past. But that doesn't mean we are not in danger of becoming more oppressive in the future. Yes I will be fine. But that doesn't mean that I have not and am not being wronged by my Government. You once brought up other governments being more oppressive. What you fail to see is that there is a norm over there of people that feel that they are doing what the want and all the people that their Government are oppressing deserve it. Over there you would not be the norm and would not be free to live the safe protected life you do for now. How do you think you would feel?
I am not sure what you mean by true due process of law. I do know that we have not accomplished the American dream of innocent until proven guilty, equal protection under the law, every one has equal rights and such. But there is a process police and courts go through to keep people in jail. Fair or not is another question. But under the patriot act the only due process is someone in the executive branch says go get him. Yes I am an idealist. I think man kind needs to strive for the perfect Government. Perhaps we will never reach it. But perhaps we can improve our lot as a result. Besides there was a time the Ideas this country was founded on were nothing more than thoughts in a man head called I believe it was John Lock. Correct me if I am wrong. But the point is unless we watch for and speak up against fascist and oppressive people in Government we will become as bad as Nazi Germany. Yes in our own unique way but just as bad. Quiet a few of you have presented some very good points of how this present administration has put us on a path towards a Fascist Government. I just hope people wake up before it is too late and then we can do nothing short of a revolution. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 11:38:29 AM | "if we choose to place ourselves in or around a person or place that is at risk for us to be wrongfully or rightfully accused, that is our own fault" and "Blaming our government for our mistakes? hmmm"
I have been think how best to present my point. Just because I may have done foolish things that made it so evil forces could abuse me and may of been avoided if I did other things does not mean the evil is Justified for what it did or I deserved to have evil done to me. By that same logic of yours you could say that Jesus Christ deserved to die on the cross because he could have just stayed away from Jerusalem and kept his mouth shut and then the Government of his day would not have killed him. I also want to say that The Government is not all bad. There are a lot of good people working in it and a lot of good policies. I just view it as my responsibility as a citizen and human being to point out the wrongs I see in my Government and use as loving means as I can to correct does wrongs. I am not blaming my Government for my mistakes. But standing up to unjust policies and having people in the Government react I don't feel is a mistake.
When I was saved I asked God whether he wanted me to join the church, cut my hair, go to college and go along with the norm, Actually I said what others think I should do but I meant the norm. God let me know not to do that, to go out among the poor and counter cultures in this country. I have often wondered why and if I just fooled myself into thinking God said that. Especially now that I am going along with the norm and as I put it doing what others think I should do. For years I thought it was because God wanted me to, as Paul put it, be as the Romans to save the Romans. (Yes that is a paraphrase.) There are aspects of that because I always talked about the law of love and that Jesus was my lord and savior. But I also think God wanted me to do it to see the injustices to the poor and people who are in positive counter cultures out side the norm. And yes I have seen many injusties done to good law abidding, poor people. Any how that way when I do, as you would put it, get my life together I would be in the best position to help fight the injustices of our society as an honest, law abiding Christian man. The best way to change the system is through the system. Other wise I think I would have been like you trying to justify institutions in an attempt to protect them and empower the good people in them to do good and put a blind eye to the bad peole in them and the evil. Do I feel it was a mistake to walk the path I did. No, because I felt it was inspired by God. I am now trying to put it together to write a book to inspire people that are oppressed that they can recover from trauma, as well as not let the oppression make them react in unloving ways, to point out faults within our cultures as well as inspire other to live good, decent lives and not feel bad about mistakes made in their past but learn from them. But that is my thing. I don’t want to take the focus away from the danger of our country becoming much more oppressive than it already is. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 12:34:07 PM | "like i said before anytime a conservative posts facts its shot down by liberals sooo whats the point of arguing with ppl who dont consider others OP"
I am sorry you have so much hate and anger in you. I hope you will one day find peace and the power of love, understanding and forgiveness that Jesus Christ and God can show you if you let them. I understand you feel you are standing up and fighting what is good and decent in the world. But you don't do that with hate. First of all it is not that liberals are shooting down conservatives or conservatives are shooting down liberals. We are expressing conflicting view points in an open forum so that perhaps people can examine different points of view and find the truth and faults in each. By hearing other beliefs we can learn from them. I also realize people try to make this a liberal, conservative issue. To make it an, us or them thing. Be with us or you are one of them. This is a good way to force people into your beliefs and discourage free thought and growth within any culture. But there are lot of conservatives that are concern about the present administration and this unchecked power they are seeking. They understand the principles this country was founded on too never give any one man or group of men unchecked power. That absolute power corrupts absolutely. He is seeking to be able to listen in on any American with out any explanation or checks from the courts. He has the power to put anyone in jail he wishes and keep them there. When you hear him it is obvious he wants uncheck power for the Executive branch, the military and law enforcement. Many conservative understand that uncheck power is against the principles this country is founded on. Also for the sake of argument let say Bush is not abusing his power. Who is to say that the next president won’t? Personally I don't like to put limiting labels on myself. I do have some conservative views like being against gun control. I am just concerned about all the talk of letting authorities do what ever they want. Through out history that has always resulted in disaster. I would like to hear your opinions about the matter so people can hear what you think about the issue and evaluate it. We get it. You hate liberals. But we have heard it all before. Let’s hear what you think about the issues. Every one has truths that they have found that others have not found. God bless you for doing what you think is right and I hope that you, like I hope for all of us, learn where you are wrong. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2006 2:30:25 PM |
Kara you should look up an ad by the name mycorrosso....you two are made for each other.
Ya, too bad he hasn't been posting the last few days, while these new flamer profiles have been popping up. He's been missing out on making friends.
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Posted: 7/17/2006 6:25:19 PM | All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
Benito Mussolini
Fascism is a religion. The twentieth century will be known in history as the century of Fascism.
Benito Mussolini
Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity, quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace.
Benito Mussolini
It is humiliating to remain with our hands folded while others write history. It matters little who wins. To make a people great it is necessary to send them to battle even if you have to kick them in the pants. That is what I shall do.
Benito Mussolini
Socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail.
Benito Mussolini
The best blood will at some time get into a fool or a mosquito.
Benito Mussolini
The function of a citizen and a soldier are inseparable.
Benito Mussolini
The Liberal State is a mask behind which there is no face; it is a scaffolding behind which there is no building.
Benito Mussolini
The truth is that men are tired of liberty.
Benito Mussolini
This is the epitaph I want on my tomb: "Here lies one of the most intelligent animals who ever appeared on the face of the earth."
Benito Mussolini
War alone brings up to their highest tension all human energies and imposes the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have the courage to make it.
Benito Mussolini
War is to man what maternity is to a woman. From a philosophical and doctrinal viewpoint, I do not believe in perpetual peace.
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Posted: 7/17/2006 6:52:22 PM | Oh my GOD! Please, please, please, next time break up your post in paragraphs. I almost lost my eyesight trying to read it! But thanks for asking, here are 14 quick points to find out if your country has turned fascistic, by brilliant Umberto Eco:
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html
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