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| Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany * Posted: 2/3/2008 5:08:21 AM |
Wow. I'm "living in fear". Thanks for the heads-up...
After 9-11, the Bush administration used fear to pass legislation that have reduced Americans' freedoms. You may no longer be afraid of another 9-11 or the smoking gun that comes in the form of a mushroom cloud, but you still are living with the after-effects of that mindset. The question is: do Americans want to live in a free society with the risks that go with that or a police state that, while it may keep you safer, curtails the freedoms that define the USA? The latter is a victory for the enemies of the USA IMHO. | |
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| Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany * Posted: 2/4/2008 7:02:52 PM | Poet has it backwards. The fear mongers are the one's who want to curtail our freedoms by putting us under surveillance animals with and tagging us with the Real ID. The conspiracy theorists are the ones perpetrating the biggest inconceivable conspiracy againt the people who are sleeping ... wake up, poet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLFBUrHPmNM&feature=related | |
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| Is the USA in danger of becoming as bad as Nazi Germany Posted: 2/4/2008 7:29:21 PM | Read Sinclair Lewis's It can't happen here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can't_Happen_Here
Then read American Fascists by Chris Hedges
http://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-Christian-Right-America/dp/0743284437
Then get chills down your spine and wake the hell up. It won't be Swastika's and Brownshirts running wild in American Cities but a made in the USA Fascism , my guess would be the Flag and the Cross.
Time to report to your local Anarchist collective and resist. | |
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| Is the USA in danger of becoming as bad as Nazi Germany Posted: 4/24/2008 5:27:11 PM | Hello guys. This is my closing. You talk about revolution I agree with the Beatles. You know. We all want to make the world a better place. If you talk about death and destruction you can count me out. Listen the modern day corporate empire will collapse like such empires always have. That is because it is based on corruption and greed. There is no honor or integrity to it and all such things eventually collapse.
Yeah there are the idiots that promote the propaganda and some even believe it. Most of us know better. We know most of the people in power are evil people. They give us their sales pitch but we see the fruit. Good men don’t make decisions that get people killed for selfish benefit and then try and cover it up, evil men do.
We all have heard the stories. For instant moving most of the manufacturing out of a country that prevents them from dumping dangerous chemicals in the environment that kills people. They end moving these factories into a country that will dump their chemicals that kill little children among others in the community; like is happening in China. All so they can sell you a toaster for something like a couple of dollars cheaper and they make five dollars more per toaster.
Then they come up with excuses why moving these factories that are killing the Chinese people are good for them. They come up with untold amount of resources to come up with these lies they tell us. Then after we see them do this and most of us know they are doing it, they give us commercials how they are giving so much money out of every sale to help the environment. See we care. The amazing thing is these Harvard graduates who claim to be the cream of the crop are so stupid that they actually believe we believe a d**m word they say.
Most of us know these are not good men. Good men do not get untold amount of people killed and sick for selfish gain. Then lie and cover up their crimes and try and make it sound like they are doing good things for their victims. Evil men who are monsters take these types of actions.
What some don’t believe is there are good men in power. Let’s look at some of their fruit. Bill Gates, yes, is using all sorts of techniques to take most of a particular market. But look at what he does with most of the money he makes. He invests in a foundation that promotes world heath and education and helps the impoverished of the world. Is it so bad that he takes the money and market from those who would hoard it and send factories across the sea that kills people?
Listen. Japans Auto Industry, Bill gates and his like is a sign of a growing trend. These Harvard and Yale idiots’ techniques are much like street hustlers and cold blooded gangster killers in a glorified fashion. They will figure out that, I think it was Henry Ford, was right. The one rule of the industrialist is to produce the best quality products possible at the lowest cost possible while paying the workers the best wages possible. They will also figure out that the general public figures out that they are liars, manipulators and killers.
Then some of these Harvard and Yale type graduates will figure out that there is a better way than lying manipulating and getting people killed. I don’t know when these thick skull idiots will figure it out. You would have thought they would have figured it out by now.
Sooner or latter these idiots will actually created a corporation that tells the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth; Admitted to fault and make amends when called for; If they created the best possible products and services that benefited their customers to the corporation best possible ability; If they treated their workers as well as they can and did everything in a way that intentionally harmed none while charging a reasonable fee for their service then they could say we do it right and look at what the our competitors are doing, they are putting the pollutants in the water in China that are killing people, and on and on and on. The people would figure out who is lying and who is telling the truth.
Then people would buy the products and services of the honest corporations and not their competitors. If some of these Yale and Harvard type idiots could figure out what most good average Joe blows figure out then they could either put all their competitors out of business or force them to change their business strategy. I call them idiots because they have not figured out these basic principles and how to apply it to their benefit as well as man kinds good.
They just are not as bright as they make themselves out to be. The best they have figured out with all their la de da is to pretend they do what I said while they get caught lying about their crimes to humanity and no one believes a word they say. Sooner or latter though, they’ll get it folks. They just have educated themselves so much that they are dumb.
The sad thing is the hustlers on the street have an excuse, though lame, because they are ignorant and desperate but these are highly educated men who have not figured this out and have everything they could ever want handed to them on a silver platter, talk about monsters.
But people if we over throw these idiots, who do you think will take power? It will be the people with the biggest guns. Do you really think the ones that should be in authority will have the biggest guns or will it just be more cold blooded killers? I think the reason great people who are the peace makers, humanitarians and lovers of freedom are not pushing for violent revolution is because there are peaceful ways to do it that won’t get untold amount of innocent people killed.
What I suggest is we find ways to get the wrong leaders out of power and put the right ones in without creating an political, social and economic collapse that would result in millions or more being killed in war and starvation. It is not the basic system of Free Enterprise, Capitalism, Representative Republic, distributed power and the like that is evil. It is evil men who have always existed who have infiltrated our institutions. We need to get those d**m and I do mean d**m individuals out of power and get good individuals in power. That is the key if you ask me.
Well thanks for everyone’s responses. I just want to say that I will not be writing on the Plenty of Fish any more except for personal letters. So if any of you want to keep this thread going you are welcome.
In closing I would like to say America is not as bad as Nazi Germany but it is far from the Ideal. We are not perfect and most of us deep down know we are not a free country though we are a free people. We see our rights being taken slowly away from us year after year and are mad about it. If you/we do not do our part to stand up to what we see wrong with our institutions then our rights will slowly be taken away generation after generation until there will be no semblance to what makes us great. I would hate to see what we could become if we the people do not take back our country. I think we will but then again I have been wrong before. | |
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| Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany * Posted: 4/24/2008 5:49:37 PM | On New Orleans, I remember watching that and hearing that the National Guard would now be focusing on protecting property than saving lives.
What the f**k we were doing protecting wet TVs and flooded liquor stores while people were on their rooftops waiting to be rescued is beyond me, but I got a face full of the new America right then and there.
We are thoroughly corrupt and thoroughly f****d as a nation.
It's over. Nothing but decline ahead. | |
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