| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 8:42:42 AM | They think you don't like sex and are a prude.
Funny thing is, a man wants a good woman who HAS morals, values etc but do not realize that for a person to have them, there must be more to it than trying to impress someone. Only One who I care to impress......................
OK all of you who want to bash me for saying I have morlas and freely admit to liking sex...............
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 9:52:26 AM | | Tourney, do not compromise your position on religion for anyone. If a man states this in his profile, my interest is further peaked. I have too much testimony to my life to ignore this attibute in a man. I long for a man that will sit beside me in Church. Those that say "other" in their profile make me wonder what "other". We all celebrate in different ways and I am open to this concept, but, I was raised in the Church, raised my children in the Church and want my eulogy read by a preacher that knew me well. I do not impose my beliefs one others but have found that this connection is important to me. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 10:04:22 AM | "OK all of you who want to bash me for saying I have morlas and freely admit to liking sex..............."
Hey, Methodists like sex and we have morals. 
There is a profile here, from my home town, where the man says he's looking for a "Good Christian Woman" and you get down where he writes about himself and he says that he is looking for a woman who will submit to him and who has never broken one of the Ten Commandments!
I thought, lotsa luck, Chuck!  | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 12:39:36 PM | I mention in my profile my spiritual path because it is important to me. Its not in the first sentence, though!
I run like a march hare if he states he's lookin for a good christian woman...not I!
The one that I laugh at is the catholic boys looking for an intimate encounter...oh yeah...confession...
Mentioning my spiritual path is a healthy screening mechanism. It scares off the ignorant and the fundamentalist/evangelical/male dominated paths | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 2:22:45 PM | I don't blame any women for being wary of a "fundamentalist" religious guy. Much of the focus recently has been on how women are subjugated in certain religions. But many Christian men subjugate women in much the same manner!!
And I am a Christian, go to church every week, sing in the choir (the music is great!!) so there is no prejudice here. Just a clash between fundamentalists and realists I think.
The important thing, I think, is that people don't generalize about any religion. There are extremists in all of them. Including Christianity. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 2:27:21 PM | Yes, I agree. Though it's okay to keep your faith. By listing on your profile what you're looking for you can make a better match.
On this site, folks are having no trouble hooking up. How many guys do I know who repeatedly keep coming back. Success with religious ladies or not, people are meeting at this site. Getting laid at regular intervals. Why you think you see so many men here.
Me, personally, I wouldn't contact anyone who I found rigid or demanding a perfect match. Often times there are deal-breakers. Yes, but opposites can attract and relationships are based on compromise.
Of course, I don't attract the religious type ladies. Most ladies I talk to are interested in romance and all points in between for intimacy. And are comfortable talking about themselves and their sexuality.
In the first phonecall, if the lady can't talk about her own sexuality, she probably is not the one for me.
"It seems that religion has caused most of the wars in the last 3,000 years, and it is time to transcend. Whatever, or whomever, a person believes in, has nothing to do with whether they can have a personal relationship or not. Just private observation, and the fact that I don't care if the person interested in me is a Christian, | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 3:00:37 PM | Bonnie, I'm with you. I mention it because it is a "must have" in my relationship. I also long for a man sitting beside me in church. There is too much in my life that is proof positive that I am on the right path. I'm no "church lady" for sure! I've made more than my share of mistakes so I probably wouldn't be every Christian man's ideal but I'm only looking for one so understandable if he's a little hard to find.
It's a shame that so many people have been exposed to negative churches or over zealous religous people. There are great churches out there and religious participation is wonderfully beneficial to one's life. You don't have to agree with me. I also think that spiritual AND religous is the best way to be because they are complimentary. "Spiritual" is inner reaching and helps you know who you are. "Religious" is outer reaching and determines how you relate to others. If you have any set of rules by which you live, you are "religious" in a way really. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 4:39:06 PM | I don't discriminate nor judge anyone or their chosen religion , but
As I was reading all the post on this topic I have to laugh a little.
As as child I was taught the "Baptist" way.... Show up for church on Sunday, ask God for forgiveness for your sins, and you shall be forgiven.
I always wondered why you couldn't just ask forgiveness in advance for the extra special sins you planned to repeat on a weekly basis.
As an adult, I'm spiritual, I'm sexual ... and if it harms no one ... I enjoy the hell out of it. If that scares anyone away, I quess they weren't meant to be there in the first place
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/20/2007 7:32:38 PM | | In reading through this, I noticed just a small fraction of religious folks and they all defended their opinions without denigrating the non-religious. Isn't it funny that the hate and denigration all came from the non-religious side of this argument. I think both sides deserve what they get. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. So the religious want to meet someone with a similar belief system. And the non-religious want to meet other non-believers. I guess everyone should be happy then and I guess there shouldn't be a problem with either side stating their preferences. So why so much animosity? | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/21/2007 6:54:43 AM | I noticed just a small fraction of religious folks and they all defended their opinions without denigrating the non-religious.
Both sides of the religious coin are guilty of denigration. I have had men react with extreme negativity when they find I am not Christian. My profile says I am a "pagan priestess"! If a man can't or won't take the time to read my profile, then he deserves to be soundly shocked when he finds out there is a brain and personality behind the pretty pictures.
By the way, I have no morals, but I am ethical. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/21/2007 7:21:26 AM | So the religious want to meet someone with a similar belief system. And the non-religious want to meet other non-believers................So, why so much animosity?
Kid..........
In my opinion, I think it's because some people have difficulty tolerating or accepting "differences".
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/21/2007 8:01:58 AM |
In my opinion, I think it's because some people have difficulty tolerating or accepting "differences". It goes much deeper than that Muskoka. I don't know how it is in Canada yet, but in America, two authoritarian factions are fighting for control of the country and at the same time more and more Americans want back the country we were born in with all of its freedoms.
People with authoritarian personalities cannot compromise, cannot tolerate, cannot be reasoned with on any level. I speculate that half of all Americans would prefer to be ruled by a dictator, but only the dictator they would follow. take a look at the schools. It must really be hard to be in fourth grade. On one hand, you have all of the idiots who believe that every arithmetic text should be "Christ Centered" and on the other you have the imbeciles who want to ban kickball in favor of "non competative games that celebrate diversity and highlight multi culturalism". THEY BOTH SUCK. Now you are getting some Americans who remember that it was fun to ride under the rear windshield of a gas guzzler car. They remember when they heard the word JAYZUS it was neither mocking or accusitory. Many Americans resent the loss of their freedom and those who voted it away. I for one, have no compunction about passing judgement on those who wrecked the greatest civilization in history.
As it applies to dating and relationships, the two totalitarian groups will never mix. Those who want to throw off the yoke are starting to shun their oppressors -- both kinds. Anyone who wishes to live in the city on a hill or in the village is off of my list. I won't sleep with the enemy. That is for darned sure. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/21/2007 3:27:34 PM | Do we need to mention here the difference between 'mentioning religion' and being a fundamentalist? Fundamentalism seems more similar to what Magic is referring?
The difference is, I believe, huge. One is rigid, the other can simply be a preference.
We shouldn't confuse the two.
Coug, you are so bad........hahahaha
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/21/2007 4:30:05 PM | It definitely throws up a caution flag for me. There's nothing more intolerant that a religious zealot.
An assumed moral superiority can result in a "holier than thou" additude.
I've seen too many religious hypocrites who feel that weekly participation somehow forgives their transgressions the rest of the week.
It's good that someone puts it on their profile though. I assume they would prefer someone who leans their way. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/22/2007 7:02:28 AM | I think it's good when people state something about religion in their profiles. As some have already said here, most of us are seeking like-minded or at least tolerant others.
I mention religion in my profile to state that I have none and don't want one, just in case that would be a problem for someone. That said, I've been close friends with many people of devout faith. We've shared common standards of behavior, ideals and goals in the community.
I don't mean to pick on you, Beachlvr, but your comment above makes me wonder:
I mention it because it is a "must have" in my relationship. I also long for a man sitting beside me in church. There is too much in my life that is proof positive that I am on the right path. Does that mean that someone on a different path (doesn't believe or doesn't go to church) is on the "wrong" path? I'd be curious to know about the "proof positive" in your life, and what it is that it proves for you. I can only imagine that such self-assuredness is quite a comfort to you.
And BonnieB,
I have too much testimony to my life to ignore this attibute in a man. I long for a man that will sit beside me in Church. Testimony to your life? What is that?
I have no right to ask either of you for any answers or explanations. I just wonder about these things. Good luck to you both in finding that man who will sit beside you in church.  | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/22/2007 10:53:46 AM |
I find my church involvement to be very comforting and a wonderful place to use some of the talents I 'think' I have. But most of the time when a man is seeking a 'good Christian woman' on his profile it scares me off. How do YOU feel?
I can understand if you are a non-drinker being scared of by someone that puts on their profile that they drink socialy or have a pic holding a bottle of beer. I can understand being scared of by the sports or outdoors type if that is not your cup of tea. But to be a Christian and then to be scared of by someone mentioning they are searching for a good Christian woman should raise some red flags. I mean this as an observation and not a jugement call and is based on my experiences as a Christian.
Based strickly on limited knowledge of you, I'd have to say there are some parts of your life that you don't yet want to turn over to God - areas of your life that, while you know you should/need to change, you want to hang onto them. Is it possible you fear what a Christian man represents? Do you fear that he may judge you? If he does, then he's not really a true Christian. Do you fear a Christian man might take you deeper and have you press more into God than what you are presently comfortable with?
As a Christian myself I am looking for and am glad to see a woman mention that she is looking for a Christian man. I seek someone who will compliment and add to the most important facet of my life - that being my faith in God. I would think it makes sense you'd want the same. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2007 5:55:07 PM | The problem I am having with this is simple,Jesus hated organized religion and for a good reason.I saw the mention of all the wars started by religion and he was right.Read an unbiased history of the Catholic church. BUT,being a Christian has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the teachings of the bible.True Christians don't hate or start wars or covet wealth and on and on,we are not perfect,far from it,but we have a set of rules to follow as best we can and a job to do,tell others the good news,if you don't want to hear it,ok,see you later.Thats your choice.BUT,according to what we believe,you must then deal with God at the end,unsaved ,and we mourn your loss.I don't try to cram anything down anyone,although I have seen this done firsthand.Most people simply don't understand that the bible is,in part,an instruction manual for living. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/22/2007 6:21:01 PM | ^^^^ ... a very steadfast, yet tolerant stance, safn. That's the type of posts that do some good in a thread about such as a contentious issue as religion. I would point out though that you do realize, don't you, that there are non-religious folks (like myself, for example) that also have set rules to follow regarding living. And as far as I've been able to tell, mine and those of Christians are not really all that different. It seems to me that what is really important here is not where the rules originate, but their intent.
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/22/2007 9:23:39 PM | Very well stated MarthaBaby!
I run when religion is mentioned in a profile, because I assume that means religion is an important part of that person's life and that I would not fit in or be able to participate in that important activity. I think every person's religious beliefs deserve respect and I don't want to put myself in a position of causing another person pain because I don't share their religious views. Sooner or later, the issue of going to church will come up, and I'd have to decide whether to disappoint that person by refusing to go to church, or compromise my own values by going through the motions and pretending to be a believer.
If I were a devout Christian, I would not be bothered by someone else stating they are looking for the same. But then again, I'm a man and don't have to deal with the "woman shall serve" stereotype that might be inferred from the original post. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/23/2007 7:27:39 PM | I have to admire one_beachlvr for her position.
I debated a bit whether to saying anything about my strong faith, but decided I had to be true to myself.
For me my faith is what has carried me through many tough times. I would be lost without it. I dated a lady who called it Karma. We discussed the differences and it comes down to a strong belief system that we can lean on to guide us through the good and bad times.
I attend church regularly. But I don't toss it out in front of others. There are a lot of people I know from the business community along with women I have dated that have no idea. If it comes up or they ask, I tell the truth. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/23/2007 7:37:34 PM | Religion mentioned in a profile? I won't bother to message those people. I wonder how truly religious they are if they have to advertise it.
Religion is a deeply personal matter that should be kept to one's self until a need arises to address it in the event both parties are interested in seeing one another again. Naturally, this statement will prompt the fanatics and zealots to argue about their religious beliefs require them to witness to the unsaved. Save it.
If your love of the lord is so great that you feel it belongs on your profile, why not use one of the many Christian sites out there. I believe Eharmony weeds out athiests and agnostics as a part of their initial screening process, so that might be a site to consider if religion is an important issue for you.
By the way, religion has NOTHING to do with morals and very little to do with spirituality. | |
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| Do people go running if religion is mentioned in their profile?
Posted: 4/23/2007 9:11:53 PM | I couldn't help but be impressed with the following story on Yahoo News. As stated above, I have no religion and don't want any. That's not at all to say I have no moral standards or love of humankind. I was going to say something in my previous post about my own appreciation for the freedom FROM religion that's possible (at least to some extent) in the United States - despite what Ronald Reagan decreed about constitutional protections on the matter. But I reconsidered making a political comment here.
Ah, but here is an encouraging story of great our country can still be - "OMG" - even under GWB's administration!
By SCOTT BAUER, Associated Press Writer Mon Apr 23, 12:47 PM ET
MADISON, Wis. - The Wiccan pentacle has been added to the list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries and on goverment-issued headstones of fallen soldiers, according to a settlement announced Monday.
A settlement between the U.S.
Department of Veterans Affairs and Wiccans adds the five-pointed star to the list of "emblems of belief" allowed on VA grave markers.
Eleven families nationwide are waiting for grave markers with the pentacle, said Selena Fox, a Wiccan high priestess with Circle Sanctuary in Barneveld, Wis., a plaintiff in the lawsuit.
The settlement calls for the pentacle, whose five points represent earth, air, fire, water and spirit, to be placed on grave markers within 14 days for those who have pending requests with the VA.
"I am glad this has ended in success in time to get markers for Memorial Day," Fox said.
The VA sought the settlement in the interest of the families involved and to save taxpayers the expense of further litigation, VA spokesman Matt Burns said. The agency also agreed to pay $225,000 in attorneys' fees and costs.
The pentacle has been added to 38 symbols the VA already permits on gravestones. They include commonly recognized symbols for Christianity, Buddhism, Islam and Judaism, as well as those for smaller religions such as Sufism Reoriented, Eckiankar and the Japanese faith Seicho-No-Ie.
"This settlement has forced the Bush Administration into acknowledging that there are no second class religions in America, including among our nation's veterans," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, which represented the Wiccans in the lawsuit.
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American Civil Liberties Union said the agreement also settles a similar lawsuit it filed last year against the VA. In that case, the ACLU represented two other Wiccan churches and three individuals.
VA-issued headstones, markers and plaques can be used in any cemetery, whether it is a national one such as Arlington or a private burial ground like that on Circle Sanctuary's property.
Wicca is a nature-based religion based on respect for the earth, nature and the cycle of the seasons. Variations of the pentacle not accepted by Wiccans have been used in horror movies as a sign of the devil. I don't always agree with the ACLU but I applaud them loudly in this case and sure am glad they're around!  | |
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Posted: 4/24/2007 12:03:15 PM | By the way, religion has NOTHING to do with morals and very little to do with spirituality"
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I am not a religious zealot. But your comments are so foolish I had to reply.
"...I wonder how truly religious they are if they have to advertise it."
1. I don't think that including some comment about you devotion to or for that matter a lack of faith is advertising. It is who you are. Something that others may like or not like about you and can therefore make a decision to contact or not contact. And if you want to insist on calling it advertising, then wouldn't you consider all of the info in you profile an advertisement about you? I think the key is truthfulness.
"...If your love of the lord is so great that you feel it belongs on your profile, why not use one of the many Christian sites out there."
2. Why do you think this site and others include a section regarding religious preferences? Obviously those creating the site think it is a character trait that some may be interested in. I have a hard time figuring out why any mention of religion bothers you so much?
"...By the way, religion has NOTHING to do with morals and very little to do with spirituality"
3. That comment is so stupid it is beyond comment. Maybe you wanted to say that a person doesn't have to be an active participant in organized religion to have morals and/or spirituality. This may come as a shock to an "anti religious zealout" (do you like that phrase?) such as yourself but I would agree.
Get a grip guy and get off your low horse. | |
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