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Posted: 5/15/2007 2:13:07 PM | GREAT POST....HAHA THAT IS MY EX TO A TEE......PIECES OF POOH | |
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Posted: 5/15/2007 4:04:22 PM | my god could'nt believe how much truth in this i was madly in love with a pathological liar we moved in together planning a future, then after two years found out through family and friends he was not the person i tought could not belive it was in shock still kinda am when i asked him all this he said everyone else was mad he is telling the truth.. of course i could'nt believe him we split up but have found out so much more about him that i know it is for the best...
just wanted to tell u all good will come from this and im sure he is reeling at the fact u found him out, and always remember it will be his loss at the end.. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2007 4:48:15 PM | Well.....girls and guys the best thing is to put these people as far in our past as we can get them...Never forget what they did to you because even a hard lesson is still a lesson learned. Just remember the signs..MOOD SWINGS, TWISTS THING TO ALWAYS BE YOUR FAULT, ONE WAY WITH YOU IN PRIVATE AND ANOTHER WAY AROUND PEOPLE, UNCOMPASSIONATE, CONSTANT DRAMA, UNEMOTIONAL, CANT LOOK YOU IN THE EYES, GIVES AFFECTION WHEN IT SUITS THEM ONLY, A TAKER. It is important to remember THEY DO NOT LOVE YOU...even tho they say they do...because they have no idea on how to love. It is not part of them. When your in love with somebody you sure as hell dont hurt them like I was hurt on a daily basis. I dont know so much if these people fit the catagory of Evil...because I guess maybe I am still in denial that I could be so deeply inlove with an Evil person..there were many times that we did have alot of fun. Times I will never forget. Times we laughed so hard we cried. But, thats all behind me now. Time to move on. But I can tell you this...wow...made me gun shy thats for sure !!!
Now that I know all you folks have had similar situations and I really thought mine was one of a kind....D A M N!!! Now I am really gonna have my guard up... | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 11:25:40 AM | I can vouch that people can change things if they truly want to. I used to lie frequently (mostly to make mylife more interesting...cuz boy was it boring) to friends and family. After having someone accuse me of being a pathological liar I went and talked to a mental health professional (not that expensive considering they had a grant that covered my therapy and stuff). Turns out I wasn't a pathological liar, but I did have a few problems, such as wanting my life to not be boring. After years of therapy and working on myself and after a religious conversion to taoism (religion can work wonders on changing a person), I cannot stand lies. Used to when people would ask me how my day went I would make something up if it was a boring day. Now I'll flat tell you, NOTHING HAPPENED AND I WAS SOOOOO BORED!!!
Heck anymore about the only things I do are go to work, play games with my older brother online, visit with friends, and spend time with family. Oh yea and eat and sleep and other stuff essential to living and good hygiene.
I'm not saying it was easy changing who I was, but I was devoted enough to changing and therefore did. So anyone who believes that a person cannot change is wrong, just most people do not have the strength to go through the long process it will take. And the last comment is statistically proven (according to a site on the Internet that I have yet to verify the credibility of). | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 11:34:10 AM | | Yeah one of my exes was like that to, but in the long run im glad im not with him no more, I dont wanna be with someone who lies all the time | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 11:37:57 AM |
Read their journal if they have one...It's a GREAT source of info, and a sure-fire way to find out the truth...
Hey BB - reading someone's journal is a huge violation of their privacy! I'd dump anyone who felt it was necessary to pry that deeply... if you don't trust the person your relationship is doomed from the outset! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 11:39:38 AM | Justme, there are people with "personality disorders" who actually have a brain that is hard-wired to the point that they are unable to change, they are unwilling to change, the world is out of step with them, not the other way round.
The fact that you "made up stories to sound interesting" is called confabulation, and though those stories were not "true," they do not even approach "pathological lying."
The person who is a pathological liar has no conscience, and in addition, pathological lying is a SYMPTOM of the REAL problem, which is most likely either Narcisisitic Personality Disorder, Psychopathic Personality disorder (also called sociopath, or anti-social personality disorder)
Children, insecure people, and older slightly demented individuals will "confabulate' to make their life seem "interesting" and to get people to notice them. this can be a sign of insecurity, low self esteem, slight dementia in an older person, or many other things, but i t is NOT pathological lying.
I am so glad that you were able to see a need to get help, see a therapist and to find your spirituality. Those are all wonderful things and you saw a need, and took steps to fix the problem. Good on you! Peace and blessings for a better life. I applaud you very much. That is what more of us should do, instead of denying that we have a problem. (And therefore if there is no problem, we don't need fixing.)
Congratulations on taking the steps to make your life better and those of your friends and family's.    | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 11:47:19 AM | LMAO my ex on here fits the OP's post to a TEE! I had to crack up the other day as he now has a testimonial on his profile stating that he's "quite the catch" that he's tall (true he is 6'5) dark (also true) handsome (well I thought so too til I realised how ugly his insides are) and RICH! (Now this is the part that gets me as lives in his mommy's basement, is on social assistance (which he calls disability) 'forgets' to bring his wallet to pay for things you've ordered ahead of time (picking up pizza/sushi/chinese food at restaurants for instance)) I could go on but my eyes are rolling too much to type anymore and quite honestly, I just gave him more energy than he deserves.
Glad to see that we've all come to our senses | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 11:59:44 AM | | wow.................did u meet my ex...you have him down to a T!!! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 12:09:32 PM | Hi Crystalbear,
I always thought my ex was a compulsive liar, but after reading this I beleave she's a pathological liar, last summer she got me to build her a barn and buy her a horse and also a chip wagon, in August we found out she was pregnant, about 2 weeks after we found out of the prgnancy, I started to notice she always had her cell phone on vibrate, and when I ask her about it she would get defensive, and she also started to go to church 4 times a week, could never argue with her, and she would start alot of the fights, once i was coming back from the dentist, having 2 old fillings replaced, she accused me of being drunk, anyways I caught her cheating, when she was suppose to be at church, so we broke up, she had the baby 6 weeks early, called me 3 hours later, asked her why she didnt call me when she went into labour, she said it happened so fast, found out her water broke 11 hours before that, and she told mne not to go to the hospital because he was so small we wont be able to see him, i went anyways and nobody said a word to me, now she wont let me see my baby, its been 7 weeks and the court just got remanded until Aug 21, alot more lies i can tell you but you might think Im writing a novel...
Jack. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 12:31:45 PM | angel (msg #221), I feel for you, I really do.
I just got my heart burnt out again.
But one thing I know, is that there is a liar and a cheat in every road in the world.
I cannot avoid them.
So, it's up to me to learn from my mistakes.
All of the above extreamly exceptional advice thank you very much for all the future advice believe me I will keep all that in mind
If it's such good advice, then that means to do it will mean a big payoff every day, probably for the rest of your life. Don't you like big payoffs?
However, now here's the but....
There are no "buts" in life. You do it, or you pay the price. I just got told off by a mate. I'm going to have to change myself, in a way I find really hard. If I can do it, you can too.
Most people are not likely to do this detailed amount of thought process
I just learned the Merengue today. It's really hard to do this detailed amount of thought process, to make sure my feet are in the right place, but if I practise enough, it will come naturally and I won't have to think about it at all.
Change can be good. That doesn't mean its easy. It just means you have to practise a lot.
especially if they have no reason to believe they are being lied to.
You have something to offer?
Then there is someone who wants something for nothing.
So you have good reason for believing that you could be lied to.
The only time you won't have this problem is when you have NOTHING to give anyone.
So if you want to be treated well, change.
That's all I know. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 12:37:51 PM | Pathological Liars
Posted: 5/16/2007 3 15 PM
To Vanhockeymom.....
Well I can tell you this.......I dont know about you....but: Mine lived with his mom too!!!!! But he did work hard and has a good job...he paid for some things...but managed to get many many things out of me before I got smart including a car and the use of free cell phone for over a year (stupid,stupid girl) meaning me...All I know is this.. Yep, we are giving them more time writing this stuff than they deserve to be talked about. But if it helped me to get this last bit outta me than so be it right? It could also be very , very likely that he WILL read all of my postings and know I am talking about him...because he does have a profile up on this site....hahaha...and all of it is a lie...OMG...go figure...but who he is I will not say...thats not right...but hey DEAR...IF YOU DO SEE MY POSTINGS..let me tell you remember when you said some day I would figure out what your problem was and why you did this to me...Guess what (T) I got it now Oh, and ( T) the next time you cheat it aint gonna be on ME!!! ...Well this will be most likely my last posting on this subject because honestly I just had to participate on it because of what the hell I was emotionally put thru...His parting speach was he did it for me and If I knew what the real reason I had to go thru it I would feel like an ass..Yeah !!! ok...whatever...It just dont matter anymore...Now all I need to do is permentaly put him the hell outta my head....BUT HEY, the good news is this....I got a great puppy out of the deal and he is a very very very big boy now...LOL....Omg..Well take care all .....and good luck, get smart, stay alert, stay strong...and stay away from whoever was you evil...Ciao' | |
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Posted: 5/25/2007 10:04:38 AM | Hi,
I don't mean to be rude but if what you say about your husband is true, then what does this say about you? You had kids with the guy. Maybe it's not something to brag about. | |
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Posted: 5/25/2007 10:05:28 AM | | The above post was meant for VanHockeyMom. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2007 12:52:23 AM | Well, sir, your comment to the lady VanHockeyMom about her choices in men is, as my dear old mom would have said, "tacky and uncalled for"--pathological liars and others who have disordered personalities can be quite charming, and she is by far not the only woman who has ever been "fooled" by these people.
With your caring and empathetic attitude, I am sure that you must be the most wonderful catch in the POF pond. I bet all the X's in your life would testify to that fact. er what that says about YOU? | |
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Posted: 5/26/2007 12:13:38 PM | | I find this comes in many forms..my recent ex was a pathalogical liar...basically says /does what she wants in order to get what she wants...thn thirs people who tell completely pointles white lies..just idotic things like saying they saw a movie when they didnt and shit like that...nothing beats the truth...ever. It's always better than fiction. always. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2007 12:27:30 PM | Hello Oxdrover, thank you for your comments. I don't want to be judgmental but I don't know why your dear old mum would think my comments are "tacky and uncallled for". Don't you think at some point early in their relationship a pathelogical liars untruths would be discovered? Pathelogical liars would lie to everybody, mother, father, siblings, friends, work mates, neighbours, etc. Therefore, VanHockeyMom would probably have been presesnt at many of the occassions where he told his lies. If she knew he told lies to people, she is just as guilty as he is for not setting the truth straight. She is what is called, an "Enabler".
And then to stay with a person of such low character, and then actually have kids with a pathelogical liar, does not say much about ones standards.
I am a very caring and empathetic person. I am also a wonderful catch in the POF pond. Notice I'm not anyone's favourite? It's no coincidence. 
Sincerely yours,
Sir Raffarott | |
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Posted: 5/26/2007 8:58:42 PM | who contacted rayray 404 after my posting.
he was quite beside himself as he states "that is not the way he is"
wonder what he didnt recognize in himself. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2007 9:37:27 PM | Ahhh, there's nothing like a pathological liar. Everyday is an adventure. Usually one that is primarily full of crap, but think of the possibilities. You can have 25 different people all rolled into one giant liar. Oh, the glory of it all.
Pft. I married one, divorced one. Later met another one, the thing about that one, he drank too ~ now that was interesting. Sorry to say, I've perfecting my "human lie detector" skills. Life is just too damn short to deal with such idiocy. JMO  | |
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Posted: 5/27/2007 6:04:49 PM | | Yeah my ex fits everyone of The OPs desciption points....how many of these people are there??? lol I used to always wonder why he would lie about every little thing when lies (at all times) were totally unecessary...oh well it's for the best now he can lie to all his other g/f who are "just friends" but hopefully they find out before their time gets wasted too. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 7:02:58 AM | Hi,
I don't mean to be rude but if what you say about your husband is true, then what does this say about you? You had kids with the guy. Maybe it's not something to brag about.
The above post was meant for VanHockeyMom.
VanHockeyMom would probably have been presesnt at many of the occassions where he told his lies. If she knew he told lies to people, she is just as guilty as he is for not setting the truth straight. She is what is called, an "Enabler".
I never said it was my ex husband sir raffarott and I NEVER said I had children with the idiot!...I said my ex (meant bf) I met and dated the loser through here. I think it says a lot about me, I was able to see through the crap and get out of the situation. My ex husband and I get along very well, I was married 23 yrs, and for the record I'm proud of my children. Not sure why you'd presume otherwise. Next time you want to attack a post, perhaps you should learn ALL the facts. I am NOTHING close to an enabler. As soon as I had realised he was lying his ass was toast. Had I seen the crap you wrote earlier, I'd have responded but I'd forgotten all about this thread.
~VHM~
Edit - thank you Ox Drover :) | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 7:22:06 AM | GEEZ Crystal, how many lies did he tell ya before you figured out he wuz a liar...lol Many years ago when I was 17 or 18 I fell for a boy that lied about everything! He'd lie about what he had for breakfast. I found out later he had some kind of mental illness....I look back now and realize I should've seen through his act and lies and stopped seeing him after the first 20 lies...lol But I was young and niave. Now if I'm lied too once or twice about something dumb I kinda loose their numbers... | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 7:31:21 AM | | Justme, are you telling the truth now? If you are go back to being a liar, you are boring... | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 11:52:45 AM | sir raffalot, appology accepted.
The thing is...sometimes these people lie so well you don't know...its when they get elaborate and you hang on just to see what the next lie will be and if he/she can out do themselves.
The fellow I spoke of once told me that he took his dog (and a HUGE dog he is too) in a side car of a motorcycle to Squamish. What was the point of that lie? Dunno but I laffed about it for months afterward. I often think of calling him up just to hear 'what he's been up to" for the last year | |
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