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Posted: 5/28/2007 1:00:16 PM | what a great POST!!....
I agree with what casperella has said above ,I been lied to so much the last while, it's pathetic to be quite honest (no pun intended  )..It really pisses me off too when people insult my intelligence ,I see any signs now of Bullshit , yes I lose contact very fastly....I kind of feel sorry for ones with this illness, but its just so simple Tell the damn TRUTH....I just don't understand, but hey I'm not a good liar, so I probally never will ! The issue must lie way beneath the skin, so it seeks help profesionally if a person feels so bad about themselves to make stuff up and ACTUALLY believe it as well...these ppl scare me also, the manipulators, cons etc so thats why any little sign of dishonesty , I'm GONE, I dont want history repeating itself! LIVE and learn! and I do get kind of bent out of shape when I get fooled as Im sure most do ,we have the question over and over in our heads "how could we be so stupid?", but we gotta realize these are manipulators , its all they know, but who gets the last laugh when they get busted ??? and they always do!:)
Some characteristics:(this was from post one)
-1. Exaggerates things that are ridiculous.
2. these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment. (so TRUE)
3.They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior. (thats sad)
4. Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?).
some other points that were mentioned too:
-Lies to get sympathy, to look beter, to save their butt, etc.
-Fools people at first but once they get to know him/her, no one believes anything they ever say.
-May have a personality disorder.
-Extremely manipulative.
-Has been caught in lies repeatedly.
-Never fesses up to the lies.
-Is a legend in their own mind.
ALL I can say Is WOW....I can see Clearly NOW!! yikes!!!!!! 
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Posted: 5/28/2007 1:19:11 PM |
Well.....girls and guys the best thing is to put these people as far in our past as we can get them...Never forget what they did to you because even a hard lesson is still a lesson learned. Just remember the signs..MOOD SWINGS, TWISTS THING TO ALWAYS BE YOUR FAULT, ONE WAY WITH YOU IN PRIVATE AND ANOTHER WAY AROUND PEOPLE, UNCOMPASSIONATE, CONSTANT DRAMA, UNEMOTIONAL, CANT LOOK YOU IN THE EYES, GIVES AFFECTION WHEN IT SUITS THEM ONLY, A TAKER.
My ex-girlfriend became like this at the end of our relationship. I was told it was effectively my fault for letting it happen and that she was obviously trying to end the relationship. Oh well never mind  | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 1:22:55 PM | not all woman and men are liars! i no there are still ppl out there that want the same as most of us  | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 1:44:30 PM | | CrystalBear..Do You Expect Me To Beleive That?..lol | |
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Posted: 5/29/2007 11:33:10 AM | Wow Congratulations on outing these people (sadly mostly men). Just came out of a 6 year relationship with one and building my life back up. They destroy you and mines nearly sent me mad but hey butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. Girls & Guys if you meet one of these run for your life otherwise they will suck you dry. xx | |
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Posted: 6/12/2007 11:52:08 PM | yes, they will. i felt like all the wind had been taken out of my sails by RayRay 4o4 from Carmi before it was over. it was the way i acted, the way i talked, my schedule, just everything about me was wrong and he was right, because he never lies. ladies from Carmi run when you meet him. he wants to meet someone who suits him and then move in because he is tighter than the bark on the tree and wont spend money on gas to see anyone over an extended period of time so he thinks if he does handy work around your place he is paying for his keep. he dont intend to help pay any expenses. or he would let you move in with him but you must have a job or money to pay for your keep, even though he wants his 3 squares a day and you to cook them and ON TIME as he cant be off schedule for his constitutional. he also wants you to be with him all the time and do what he wants to do which can run from cutting wood, to going to his ex brotherinlaws who lives with a prison con, to helping him work on equipment that he gives away to his kids or sells at a loss to his neighbors, therefore never having any money for any kind of a life for him and another person.
he wants you to go without air conditioning in the summer and stay in just one or two rooms in the winter to conserve on cost. he loans hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars to his out of control kids and exwives but he wont spend a dime to have a life. he would rather move in on yours, sell the place he has, stick the money in the bank so his kids and exs will know he has more that way they can wheddle it out of him but you must not say anything because it is not your business, it is his life. good luck to anyone who he contacts. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2007 12:34:08 AM | | I think my ex is a pathological liar too, this finding out what a pathological liar was and it sounds just like him. I dunno how someone can believe their own lies though, that's real messed up. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2007 1:09:30 PM | -Lies to get sympathy, to look beter, to save their butt, etc.
-Fools people at first but once they get to know him/her, no one believes anything they ever say.
-May have a personality disorder.
-Extremely manipulative.
-Has been caught in lies repeatedly.
-Never fesses up to the lies.
-Is a legend in their own mind.
That's my Ex right there... 
Funny thing though, all the signs were these from the beginning but I was only able to see him as he really was when it ended. 
I'm glad that it's done. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2007 3:08:18 PM | The original post is very accurate.
I lived the very things that were posted. (I could probably list some sidebars also)
When I studied up on personality disorders, an article very much the same as the OP's post lit the light bulb in my mind. It was if someone else had wrote the script of my experience. I was stunned by the similarities. It is all too clear now.....but I wish I had the benefit of this knowlege sooner. My decisions would have been markedly different.
I had a college level course in personality disorders, without stepping foot on campus.
These people RARELY change. They CAN"T change....according to most of the pros who study them.
Caveat Emptor | |
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Posted: 6/24/2007 5:34:20 PM | | wow!!! i can finally put a label on what my x had!! i now know i wasnt been crazy by dumpin him. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2007 5:52:40 PM | | Hi, I hope you are still here. I have been through hell, too, just like you. I wish you well, anyway. Please take care of yourself. Josie | |
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Posted: 6/24/2007 6:20:35 PM | Pathological Liars:
RUN!
Confronting a person like this will only further his/her knowledge on avoiding mistakes thus increasing the level of deception in the long run.
Don't look back. | |
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Posted: 2/29/2008 11:30:46 PM | | This Joni47 is in fact the liar to beat all-----was still married----and a guy from butler area too!!!!! Imagine that...................... | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 5:55:01 AM | Hi!
I want to let you know that I know what you talking about. I used to date a guy like that and it was really confused situation because he though he was always right!!! This stupid man like to manipulate people all the time, but he never manipulated me because I am not stupid and I know it every time he was liying to me because my istinct always told me. People like that, don't go too far. They are losers and they like to hang out with other losers like him as well. When I meet all his friends, they all where people who has problems with drinking, and people who has not morals and value at all. I really in some way learn a lot from this man, like never agaen go out with this kind of people. He is 49 never married and hewill be alone for the rest of his life because people like that, can not carry a healthy relationship.
Stay away from liars because they are losers.
Crystal | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 6:57:58 AM | | I know at least one of these people. What's fun is to not let them know YOU know they are full of hooey and just play along. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 1:35:39 PM | | Wow there must be alot of them out there! I went out with someone for 3 years everytime he lied I would catch him, so he wasn't very good at it. Along with the lying came the cheating. I finally woke up. We split up in Feb and 9 days later he got engaged to someone else, I heard he has already lied to her as well. Some things never change. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 12:42:15 PM | | WOW...Thank you so much...Sounds exactly like Hillary Clinton... | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 2:01:06 PM | | Have just been reading all the posts on this thread that have been going on for about a year. There are many, many insecure people out there (men & women). I won't go into what I think are the pervasive societal reasons for this. To help themselves feel more secure in this competitive world (competitive in many areas, looks, money, power, intellect etc) they often lie, however this is hardly pathological lying. Having never been involved with one emotionally but having met several during my lifetime the only thing to do is stay away. Perhaps I have a sixth sense that detects these people readily. Usually by the second meeting, conversation, whatever, they give themselves away by saying something I realize just can't be true. And that's the end of any contact with them. Sometimes one can't end the contact such as in a business relationship. i.e. I had known an art dealer who bought and sold a lot of my pottery. I had a separate "show room" whereby I showed what I had for sale. I never allowed anyone but friends into my studio. He had told many people that he had been in my studio any number of times and that he had made suggestions of how to make particular items or just what items should be made that I had followed all of his suggestions. He even went so far as to point out pieces of mine and state that he told me to make those particular items and even how to glaze them. He too would lie about the silliest unimportant things. That he had dinner with so & so when he didn't. It cost me $$$ but I wouldn't deal with him, wouldn't allow him into my "show room" wouldn't speak to him. That, however, didn't stop him. He continued to tell people how close we were how much of my stuff he sold etc etc. Having nothing to do with him & not speaking to him didn't faze him in the least. That is a pathological liar. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 2:55:25 PM | | Wow I have been reading a lot of these postings, I had met someone on here a couple of months ago until recently. This man was always changing his stories and making up things so I would feel sorry for him. I also found out about the other woman he was emailing and lied about her. He got so mad and told me he never wanted to see me again but was suppose to be in love with me , was that a lie to. He is now back on this site and has a thread about our relationship and has made up lies about my daughter. It is one thing that these people know how to do is to keep on lying to hide the first lie they told. I didn't think it was going to be this hard to meet a decent man. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 6:39:11 PM | Sad to say ive been there too, spent 4 years with one, thought I was going mad!!!
Not only did he cheat and lie it took me 2 years to find out, but too late, I was inlove, and forgave him, only to relive it 2 more times before I said enough is enough.....
Also look out for the 2 phones( the work one!!lol)
Towards the end he had me beleiving it was all my fault!! figure that out!!
now the worst of it is he has herpies, and never told me....what a guy huh? luckily I am herpies free.
He is also here on this site.........ladies beware!!! if he says he'e probably the only decent guy on this site RUN!!! | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 7:41:10 PM | Towards the end he had me beleiving it was all my fault!! figure that out!!
That old double-reverse strategy is what I call it. When these pathological liars catch the first hint that you're catching on, they turn it around on you fast and furious. At least the one I encountered did. It can be a bit derailing at first and contrary to what one poster suggested, it's not worthwhile to toy with these individuals. Why bring oneself down to their level? Leave them to their own illusions, or perhaps the proper terminology is delusions?
A rather unpleasant exit but with all of his "projection" on to me, I was reminded of a nursery rhyme: "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me". Of course, anything that comes out of the mouth of a pathological liar can hardly be considered as valid, can it?
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:20:05 PM | all I know is it took me a long long time to get over it, if ever anyone really does. You become cynical, suspicious. All the things that you dont want in a relationship.
I was stalked by this man, the games he played, just really mind damaging stuff.
I thought I had met the man I could spend my life with, he was so nice, seemed just perfect. Not a great looker, but he had "charm" and said all the right things.
I dont and wont ever go thru anything like that again, so Im wise to these types now.
But what really still hurts, is that people can be so hurtful to another human being and thats the hardest thing Ive found to over come. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:33:43 PM | But what really still hurts, is that people can be so hurtful to another human being and thats the hardest thing Ive found to over come.
That's the part that tends to make it hard for me to overcome and I have to work hard on not staying stuck on the why "people can be so hurtful to another human being".
You become cynical, suspicious. All the things that you dont want in a relationship.
Easy to become that way. I resolve that element by making a decision not to give that person that much power over me. I choose not to be cynical. I choose to be cautious but not suspicious.
The mind stuff and games can be very derailing. Stalking is another element altogether. In so much as it is possible, best practice is to ignore and don't react or respond. The more one gives attention to these pathological liars, the more they consume your life. If they break the law (stalking), do what you need to do to protect yourself - obviously. It's their lifestyle - their fun is the game. These kinds of games take two players. So let them play alone. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:34:39 PM | WOW... I DATED A GUY WHO IS REALLY EXACTLY THE WAY HE IS FROM YOUR POST... TNX FOR THE INFO GIRL ...NOW I KNOW HOW WILL I CALL HIM - - - TYE PATHOLOGICAL... HAHAHA  | |
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