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 Author Thread: Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
 daiwa

Joined: 3/10/2007
Msg: 126
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/19/2007 10:50:14 PM
please i mean please can we lay off the bad spelling and grammer. Now there are various reasons why one can't write constructive sentences, whose might be language issues (ESL or ETL [or more]) or they might be dyslexic. Now usually with the dyslexics you can tell because its jsut beyond what one thinks is humanly possible but I have to stand up for that crowd because often they will try to use the spellcheck and it'll jsut be a disaster, and no i don't think getting someone to look over their text is a good idea because well you won't be getting to know the person going over their text. I mean i agree with most everything else but please look beyond the writing and into the ideas (if there are no ideas well then **** it)
 whisper67520

Joined: 9/29/2006
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/19/2007 11:05:48 PM
Tru...."yea dude you sound like your average frustrated chump, who is jealous of the cools guys that gets the girl"

What exactly does the COOL GUY GET.......A PIECE? Just goes to show the OP is right on...RIGHT?

Guys out looking, just to get laid, think they are cool because they have a line of BS that gets them sex........and a reputation....and hopefully not a STD.

The guy seeking something of substance, a real relationship...certainly does not want that type of recognition.......He wants to be thought of as a man of substance and honor and truth. NOW THAT'S A GREAT GUY....
 Val1032

Joined: 2/23/2007
Msg: 128
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/19/2007 11:06:14 PM
The biggest scumballs are when they tell you they are separated---but after further contact you find out they are separated by a few walls in their house and they are really still living with their wife!

I've stated that I don't want to be matched with a married or separated guy but I still get plenty that say they are sepaarated. SEPARATED in my book is still MARRIED.
 dizzle64

Joined: 12/16/2005
Msg: 129
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/20/2007 1:46:05 AM
blah blah blah.............everything the OP said can be said for women as well. Commen sense should tell anyone to stay away from shitty people period! No one gender has a monopoly on being as$holes.
And I'm to old to play games, If I was looking for a quick hook-up, this would be last place I'd be.
 Pcolachic

Joined: 5/15/2007
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/20/2007 7:57:21 AM
What a great post! I hope more men and women (boys and girls) get to read it... Thanks for caring about all of us gals trying to find the right kind of guy
 whisper67520

Joined: 9/29/2006
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/21/2007 1:04:16 AM
" If I was looking for a quick hook-up, this would be last place I'd be"

I don't know trudawg....a friend of mine shared with me......his 30 something son told him....he got more free hummmmm off the Internet dating sites than he ever got out of a bar....and he was staying pretty dahum busy.

I remember that, every time I feel some guys is TRYING to feed me a line of BS...
 adaisyandarose

Joined: 3/11/2007
Msg: 132
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/21/2007 4:58:48 AM
Well thanks for this post. I do get men who get sexual with the first contact or I get the you have a cam comment. I am confused about the sexual talk sometimes because I want to get know that person before I talk about which positions I like the best and do I spit or swallow questions. I mean I understand wanting to be sexually compatible with the person but geez slow down tiger.

I am an open person and will answer anything for the most part but I have to say in the back of my mind I think the guy is a player and it is very possible I won't talk to them again. Sex is a very important part of a relationship but it isn't everything. Without the other things it is just a fling and will burn out quickly.
 airbrushguy

Joined: 4/15/2007
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/21/2007 7:18:44 AM
LOL true dog.. Im in agreement with ya 100% he sounds like a real whiner.. he probably doesn’t even ponder about working out and his "magic the gathering" and lord of the rings collection must be huge! lol
I work out.
I go to clubs.. "to perform"
guess that makes me a scum bag huh.
sounds to me like a pathetic attempt to whine out the competition.

I noticed a lot of the"ORIGINAL" responders to his post who were of female names who have an awfully peculiar similar writing style to his own..
LOL
just a hunch.. I could be wrong.. but I think he organized a whispering campaign.. using his own self as the other users. I may be wrong on that but it looks funny as hell . it seems he got deleted as well .

anyway.. much of what he wrote
I have noticed a lot of other women know much of the same things..
delete the message if its too forward or raunchy.
ignore the message if its too childish lame or short etc etc
.. much of this is common sense..

I don’t think for a second that the women are idiots I think they got it figured out already without his help
I certainly don’t think its necessary to write a post .. educating them on how to find a man who isn’t a scum bag
Especially being a guy himself.. I mean did he field test his theories before he put them into law? LOL
he must have dated a lot of guys to get so wise huh.. just an observation but, I could always be wrong

Your artistic neighbor,

Frank
 whisper67520

Joined: 9/29/2006
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/21/2007 10:31:23 AM
^^^^^ First of all Neighbor....if you took the time to look...this thread is almost a year old. (In reference to his being deleted)...Second of all....a man of character and honesty doesn't usually stay around these dating sites for long......some great gal is usually lucky enough to grab him up fast.....we recognize quality....

I for one, appreciate his input in this thread. Wish I had seen a post like this then I first registered on the singles sites....When I first came on I thought like myself....MOST PEOPLE ARE HONEST AND WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET....boy was i naive....My son had told me he was concerned at my getting on singles dating sites on the Internet....His comments were...Mom, you have no idea what its like there,,,,and your not worldly enough to see the games people play.

Well, I've had my education, first hand...self experienced and I can speak from experience.....There are a bunch of scum bag, dishonest, narcissistic, self centered, lying, using game p layers out there in cyberspace.

No not all, but the good folks, dont stay around long.....They find quality relationships and get on with the living life in the real world.
 airbrushguy

Joined: 4/15/2007
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 5/22/2007 9:07:18 PM
so whisper:
Am I to believe that what you say is to equate "good folks " with the ones who can find a match quicker than most? What I if were not as attractive?.. and I was having a hard time getting women to even look my way? thus making me have to prolong my searching experience.. would that make me any less "good" ??

just wondering.

BY the way.. your still here too . but I wont cast out any assumptions on you.. as you might just be having a difficult time finding MR right. maybe you should take time out for MR ok for right now.

I find that people who chose to toss out those terms that you use without taking into account for their own part of the problem are generally insecure and don’t want to face up to the facts that they may have contributed to the demise of the relationship..
If any relationship blossoms at all.

But then again I could still be wrong.
By the way.. old post.. new post.. makes no difference.. Its very new to me because I haven’t read it yet.
My opinion of the OP remains the same.
 chuck357

Joined: 9/15/2007
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 8:55:37 AM
I agree, tell it like it is brother.
 Tossed_Salad

Joined: 6/23/2007
Msg: 137
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 9:03:42 AM
maybe the WORST players are thsoe who POSE as "helpful" player-spotters?

(he wants to "help" you avoid ALL those other bad, bad men, and focus only on HIM>?!>?!> )


 achieve

Joined: 9/23/2006
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Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 9:10:50 AM
Wow that was nicely written. I have yet to find a true gentleman you are sooo right most guys are only out for one thing. Or they think you have to look like a model. They have not even taken the chance to get to know me. I feel lonely but I am not deperate just have morals and will not loose that for anyone. I want respect first and foremost.
My prince charming has to be out there somewhere.
 xXx vic xXx

Joined: 8/14/2007
Msg: 139
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 9:25:45 AM
I have just realised than in 2 years of being on and off this site that i've probobly only had about 10 messages from real men who would actually be interested in ME!
Your advice will now be taken.
thanks
 draoidheil

Joined: 2/14/2006
Msg: 140
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 9:31:46 AM
wow,those are terrific!Thank you for the tips.I know I will be making use of them!
 Platinum Queen

Joined: 8/28/2007
Msg: 141
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 9:39:57 AM
Great post, thanks for stepping up to the plate!

I have been on this site most of the summer and I have met some great men but also some real jerks. The jerks were nothing like their bios.

Ladies I make a point of at least 3-6 hours of telephone calls and if he is not willing, I won't go out with him. I also diary stories they write to me or tell me so if they repeat the story I don't stop them and compare notes.............rude you say, deceitful................well call it what you may as a single woman on a date with really an unknown person I need all the information and personality traits I can get. I would expect nothing less of me either!!!!!! I also let 2 people know who I am out with, where I am going, direct link to the bio and as much info as I gleaned out of the phone calls. Place of work, phone numbers etc. Over kill, maybe but I want to be safe! There are a few jerks on any of these websites and it's our responsibility to be responsible for ourselves. My safety is my responsibility.

Now having said that. I have never had a coffee date with anyone that was dangerous, a total jerk or rude in my humble opinion. I have been most fortunate. I do believe in taking all precautions but I also think that most of us are all here for the same reason. It's sad that there are so many people looking for what we all want.............to be loved and needed.

Thanks to the fellow that runs this list as I am sure he has a ton of headaches in doing so.

BTW..........Queen Grammar, give this man a break. There is a time and place for everything!!!! Shame on you! If I made any errors keep it to yourself.
Jan
 DamCute

Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 142
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 10:10:13 AM
It works both ways for women as well as men. Yes the velocity of the downward spiral is going faster and more out of control as the years go by.
I really can't thank the stinky fishy there for the advice on the wait 3 wks bit. Good post all together. Bravo!
I think that the person who quoted his mother (she raised 6 kids) 's wise words. My Nana used to say "If you give away your ass you'll shit through your chest!" It took us about 5 years after she died to get the meaning of that but once you do, it's embedded and working wonders in your self respect. I'll be happy to explain it to those that dont. Anyways, other good post!

Listen to that voice in your head people. If it's telling you to run like hell or just slow it down a bit---listen to it! I like folks who say they try to keep an open mind...that's not listening to your intuition/heart/mind. If it's meant to be it will be. The world has a strange way of putting people together without all the Dr. Phil, fishy, psycho-jumbo out there in the bookstores and media and oprah shows. Although advice is good from those who have been there (even animals guide their young) Your own intuition is the bestest friend you'll ever have.

Good luck!
 dlb61

Joined: 7/24/2007
Msg: 143
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 10:21:23 AM
if they sound too good to be true--then it is most likely too good to be true! Guys that comment on going to the gym.....usually are self centered. Nothning wrong with taking care of yourself but why dwell on it in your profile!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beware of guys that talk about passion in their profiles!!! It usually means they are lusting, not really into romantic passion--alias a skin hound. I already ran into this on this website.

No pictures!! Web cam users are usually perverts...

I say all of this because I know........................ Been on these sites for 4 years and they are usually a bunch of balony....only hoping.......
 dlb61

Joined: 7/24/2007
Msg: 144
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 10:22:25 AM
forgot to mention--if they are into their bodies that much---they will find faults with yours for sure---been there done that!
 oldsoul

Joined: 3/10/2007
Msg: 145
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 9/19/2007 10:48:01 AM
Hi OP,

I did read your list but I have to admit I had to force myself to continue doing so by the time I reached the part about the grammar...although I do tend to be fairly picky about such things, I'm also old and wise enough to know that in many cases, it simply doesn't mean a thing whatsoever. What if the guy is dislexic (sp?) or is street smart and an emotional and intellectual genius who HAPPENS to have a learning disability?? I've had many fools write me who had perfect grammar who I wouldn't date if they were the last men on earth....it might be okay as a general rule, but "general" just doesn't cut it for me as none of us are "general"....we are INDIVIDUALS...not to be put in boxes and labelled with all the rest of the "general population"....you know what I mean???

And although I don't "normally" go for the abs and body pics, again there have been instances where the individual behind those pics turned out to be a really nice person who just HAPPENED to post those particular pics for his own enjoyement with no hidden messages or ugly agenda behind it....again it's only a generalization and not a rule.

I could say the same about the 2-5 words emails....now don't get me wrong here, I absolutely love long emails and I myself tend to be long winded...BUT I've had a few cute first contact emails that said nothing more than "Pink Floyd, huh?" or "No flying spaghetti monster for you I guess" which showed me that the sender had in fact looked at my profile and perhaps just wanted to see if I was interested in taking this any further....and some I have and some I haven't....again why put everybody in that damn box???

And as far as not hinting at sex or anything sexual in the first email....um...okay that is "generally" correct and I'm willing to give you that one.....BUT once again there are exceptions and I try to look at each one on an individual basis. I'm a big girl and can take care of myself and I consider myself to be a pretty good judge of character....anyways what's considered sexual or over the line with one person might simply be called flirting or having some harmless fun with another....in any case I certainly don't need a guide or a book to tell me what I find offensive or not. JMO

Love and peace
 kpooks

Joined: 12/23/2008
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Posted: 7/26/2009 9:48:18 AM
"Real men" everywhere are thanking you (I'm being sarcastic).

Rather than focusing on the negative, why doesn't the OP tell all the ladies why they should want HIM? Since he's eliminated any hint of sexuality, why the hell else would a woman want to hang with him? Good negative analysis?
 free98us

Joined: 7/19/2009
Msg: 147
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 7/28/2009 3:26:38 PM
Well said! Don't forget if their profile says married but the details say you're just looking for a friend while you work out xyz (it happens) or if everything is left blank, kids, career, education, etc. that should be a no go.
 roninvince

Joined: 11/14/2005
Msg: 148
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Posted: 7/29/2009 6:50:28 AM
I have to spend so much energy trying to convince a girl im not after sex and that I really do respect a girls feelings and choices
How about just spending that energy trying to explain that the two aren't mutually exclusive.


It gets frustrating because I completely blaim these weirdo jerk guys for ruining it.
Yes, a woman that dates a jerk may have a lowered image of the entire male gender as a result, it's not right but it happens. You know what makes it worst though? False negative stereotyping such as: "90% of the guys here are immature, sex crazed losers who couldnt even hold a candle to a REAL man, let alone talk to a girl."



Real guys don't want sex at first because they don't want a girl to give it up so easily. They want someone who they can know first, talk with, spend a little quality time with, and then when you are into the relationship and decide thats what you want, you can get as kinky as you want.
Ok, first of all, men shouldn't be imposing value on how easily women "give it up"(as if women didn't want it too). You do not own these women, they have their own needs and, if they like to have a lot of sex, that's their prerogatives.

Also, what's up with number 7 being a direct contradiction to number 1. If a women takes pictures of her physical assets, she's cute and sweet but if a guy does it he's a douchebag?!
 diamondgirl2727

Joined: 2/25/2008
Msg: 149
Girls, here are some tips written by a guy (me) to show you how to spot phonies/scumbags
Posted: 7/29/2009 9:14:45 PM
You mean there are women out there that don't know all of this already?? lol! I guess those younger women that might not have had enough experience spotting these creeps! But you forgot one thing, the smooth operator who tries to convince you that he is none of the above, they are the most dangerous!
 VoluptuouslyBoston

Joined: 2/6/2006
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Thanks for the tips
Posted: 7/30/2009 5:20:47 AM
Trust me, MOST I knew already lol But, it's always good to see those tips posted, for there are some people who feel they have to be a certain type of girl just to get a guy. Low self esteem doesn't get anyone anywhere.
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