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Posted: 11/12/2007 6:46:29 PM | Rather than put a spin on the use of drugs and the "false" information being placed in our minds... let's focus on the fact that a teen should not be encouraged to partake in anything that will give them a criminal record..... it can affect their academic life (expulsion/suspension)... their secular life (employment termination) and their family life (no trips out of country) and social life.
Maybe explain to a child/teen who has been to Florida, that they will never be able to bring their own children (when having a family) to Florida if they possess a record as the adult... their kids would have to experience that without you.
I know of one girl who thought she was being the smart, arrogant know-it-all by ignorig the drug laws... she can no longer attend the many concerts and mini-concerts in Detroit (a favourite thing she loved to do).
If only people would stop with their stupid rants of bullshit about POT and come back to reality and realise that you are setting up young, gullable kids for a life of restrictions if they want to take risks and make excuses for becoming a user. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2007 3:57:57 AM |
It can negatively affect your choice of careers, it can keep you from traveling to places you would like to go (like the USA) it can severely limit your options if you get caught. Is that something you want to risk or a chance you want to take?
this sounds a tad like fear mongering too me...
For some reason you don't think this is reality?.... just fear mongering?
I have a 21 yr. old nephew who went to Mexico last year, with three buddies, they drove, and partied along the way, of course. They were celebrating - they had all just finished college together, and on top of that, my nephew had just got his acceptance letter to train as a pilot. They had all just finished getting their Aircraft Maintenance Engineer license, and now he was going to get his pilot's license. He hoped to set up a small bush plane business. It was his dream, as he loves being outdoors, hunting, fishing, etc.
The group of 4 guys all figured like you - it couldn't hurt you - its just pot, right.... what is the big deal? Well, unfortunately they found out.... they mixed the pot and booze while partying in Mexico, overdid it, and my nephew had a stroke. He started acted very strange, so they figured they should head home early, and they drove all nite to get back to Canada. They didn't get him into a hospital in the US, as they had no health insurance on their trip. They managed to make it back to Canada, just across the US border, and he spent two weeks in a hospital in Vancouver. YES - it was DIRECTLY caused by the mix of pot and booze - which many do all the time. His vision was affected, and he will never become a pilot now... hmmmm.... but it doesn't affect his career right? BTW - none of them can go back to the US, but they aren't really telling us why on that one.... hmmmmmm....... wanna bet it is related to drugs? | |
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Posted: 11/13/2007 4:21:59 PM | | A good majority of teens have smoked pot, especially in a small town where there is not much to do and I do agree with a comment made about finding something to do for him and these other teens! If he is getting into fights and its drug related then it may become a problem, however with him being open and honest with you shows that he has a good head on his shoulders. I hear a lot pf people talking saying "oh it's just pot" and not realizing that now a days pot is starting to be laced with all sorts of other chemicals to enhance the high. Good communication and trust is always important when dealing with these types of issues! :) | |
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Posted: 11/20/2007 11:03:10 AM | Recently I met a great guy who keeps growing in my eyes from great at the rank of special. Everything is fine until here.
But…I have a huge heavy rock on my heart and that’s my daughter, a 19 year’s old teenager. She’s the only one in this point of my life I really care about and I love her unconditionally. Last summer she has been in a darkest, deepest, hopeless emotional hole trying to commit suicide (was the second time) because of drugs, especially E and she reached in the hospital with a serious psychosis. I’ve been with her and for her with my positive side of me, every second and she seemed to recover pretty well.
“Friends” took her from there at the date of discharge and I couldn’t find her some days. Finally I got in touch with her we had a talk when she said that she learned a lot from her mistakes, but she wants her own life living with her boyfriend (that’s the huge problem). She’s over 18 and I tried but I couldn’t do anything to enforce her to stay with me. She trusts me, loves me and she’s opening up only to me. I kept her over a close observation and guidance from then. Things went well until recently, when some old happy “friends” came back into her like. They’re doing coke and E and they seems always happy for those around them.
In the last time my daughter was happy, enthusiastic, starts to actually solve problems and became responsible about some things, but my concern is that she still didn’t give up struggling to change her boyfriend. From the moment they met, an year ago, instead she pull him up into a good, normal life, he drag her down into his misery, dirt, drugs, careless, sick world. Instead of growing together, they fall together.
We came from Europe 3 years ago, where thing are very different, we have only each other, here in Canada and I’ll be there for her no matter what. What happens for her, the choices she made, affected me a lot. I keep being her best friend and a reliable mother, giving her a lot of attention, understanding and help to show her the beauty of life and I’m a confident positive person. Now I reached to the point that I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DEAL WITH ANYMORE.
Some days ago, since that happy couple of drug dealer friends get back in her life, she start to take coke again, and I just found out this yesterday when I cleaned a little bit her apartment. She’s still motivated doing things, but I could feel her mood changes, nonsense talking, non reason exuberance, paranoia signs, jumping suddenly from a subject to another. Yesterday she called me 5 times, after we spent the most of the day together, just to tell me she loves me so much. This was out of her usual behaviour. So I know, and I got the confirmation from her. She was high, she cried, got suddenly angry on herself and she said that how she feels is “just human”!!! I’m feeling overwhelmed by emotions and worry about her, but in the same time I’m trying to cope with the situation for myself. Things are worst then appear on a surface. This weekend she scratches her arm with a cutter trying to make sure that she’s alive and can feel pain! But she feels happy. I know very well the next step :(
I need opinions about 2 things:
1) If anybody experienced coke and E, personally or had someone doing it, I need some advices how I can help bringing her back into real life, making her stop doing drugs.
2) The guy I just met is very important to me, and I think the feeling is mutual. After 3 absolutely amazing dates, should I try to talk with him about this? I’m afraid not to scare him away because I like him a lot, but ultimately if I’m losing him I answered my question. I can’t lose something I don’t have or never had.
I would appreciate a lot any advice. I really don’t know what to do.
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Posted: 11/21/2007 1:27:52 PM | "YES - it was DIRECTLY caused by the mix of pot and booze"
i would say it was more the booze than anything else, or something else entirely.. if his vision was permanently effected then i doubt the pot had anything to do with it.. in the hospital i am sure the doctor who told him that, might have said something like "It may have contributed to your condition" or something similar, Pot dosnt make you blind, it in fact enhances vision and can help with several vision issues like glaucoma ( which people smoke medical weed for this )
but this is a second hand story anyway so i am weary of such things.. "my friends did..."
also if he was "acting very strange" do you mean high? and was this in mexico or did he continue to act this way in canada? this sounds like something else entirely.. i would say that maybe he did something other than just pot and weed... and if he just over did it? well overdoing it with pot just means you fall asleep, with booze it could lead to death ( weed has never once killed anyone )
and he did not tell you WHY he can not go back to the US? hmmm.. why would that be? if he was in Mexico, got ****ed up, then came to Canada... while still ill(?) then there is NO reason for him to be banned from entering the US at all... so i would bet that he is not telling you everything and that his vision issues are from something else... what sounds more likely ? to be barred entry to the US there would have to be a criminal record of some kind, and in Mexico you do not get busted for having weed or booze... why would he be effected like that by some weed and booze? and if that was the only thing then it would be the booze, sounds like alcohol poisoning too me... could have been an alergic reaction aswell... there are people alergic to weed so that might be the issue...
one of the issues in this thread is the legality of weed, be smart about it if you work in a place that dose drug tests.. then dont do the drugs ( Duh!) but fear of not being allowed into the US is a pretty dumb reason... especially since it is at there discression to let you in or not weather you have a record or not... and this is only if the pull you out of line and check you.. if you do not look like a weed smoking hippy then there is a good chance they will pass you on by, considering the sheer numbers of people crossing both ways everyday.. so really it is not something one should worry about if someone at a party hands you a joint... but yes while traveling in the US one should be more weary and aware of there drug laws ( Draconian) but that dosn't mean we should worry about it here in Canada... and i would be worried about being kidnapped at the border and sent to Syria for a year to be torcher'd on behalf of the CIA by Syrian prison guards ( this has hapend a few times and to Canadian citizens, if you have not been following the NEWS )
I think my point is there is ALOT worse than can happen... we take greater risks and greater LEGAL risks just driving down the street everyday...
Pot activists hail court victory, but Crown says it's non-binding
OTTAWA - Marijuana activists are hailing a recent court ruling as the beginning of the end of Canada's prohibition on pot, but the Crown dismisses the decision as non-binding.
A trial judge in Oshawa, Ont., threw out charges of simple possession of marijuana against three young men on Oct. 19, relying on a previous court ruling that found Canada's pot law unconstitutional.
In making his decision, Justice Norman Edmondson cited a decision last July by a fellow judge of the Ontario Court of Justice.
In the earlier case, which is being appealed by the Crown, Justice Howard Borenstein accepted the defence lawyer's argument that Ottawa must pass a law - rather than rely solely on government policy - to allow accredited medical marijuana users to possess pot.
Health Canada has been forced by a series of court decisions to set up a medical marijuana program authorizing patients struggling with chronic conditions to use dope to alleviate their symptoms.
And a court ruling in 2003 required Health Canada to provide government-certified marijuana to these patients so they don't have to turn to the black market for their medicine.
In the July 13 Borenstein decision, defence lawyer Bryan McAllister successfully argued that the law itself should have been changed, not just the program.
And because the law has not been rewritten to accommodate medical users, the prohibition on all use - including recreational use - collapses because the law is unconstitutional, the court ruled.
A spokeswoman for the Crown said the October decision in Oshawa will not be appealed.
"The decision of the trial judge is not binding upon any other trial judge and the (Borenstein) decision he relied upon ... was wrongly decided," Stephane Marinier, of the Brampton, Ont., office of Public Prosecution Service of Canada, said in a e-mail.
The Crown will make its counter-arguments in an appeal of the Borenstein decision at Ontario's Superior Court of Justice, Marinier said.
In the Oshawa case, the three accused were defended without charge by paralegal Edwin Pearson, and with court costs of about $3,000 paid by Doug Hutchinson, a self-described "pot-head professor."
Hutchinson is a tenured professor of philosophy at the University of Toronto who took on the case after learning that one of the accused was related to a student in his class.
Pearson, a legal scholar who says the pot law has been unconstitutional since a 2001 court ruling, says the federal government is causing great harm by pursuing prohibition.
"They're making kids into criminals. They're taking away their educational capabilities, job capabilities, their travelling capabilities, because of what? Because of pot?" he said in an interview.
"It's ridiculous."
Pearson and Hutchinson have created a self-help kit to encourage others accused of marijuana possession to make their own constitutional challenges . | |
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Posted: 11/21/2007 4:06:09 PM |
i would say it was more the booze than anything else, or something else entirely.. if his vision was permanently effected then i doubt the pot had anything to do with it.. in the hospital i am sure the doctor who told him that, might have said something like "It may have contributed to your condition" or something similar, Pot dosnt make you blind, it in fact enhances vision and can help with several vision issues like glaucoma ( which people smoke medical weed for this )
And you would be wrong.... it was something he was told by his heart specialist actually..... and the drugs were the prime cause more than the booze.... along with the dehydration of the sun.... the booze was only a factor in that it contributed to the dehydration, nothing more. The stroke was more caused by the long term "soft drug" abuse than anything else. | |
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Posted: 12/13/2007 12:25:48 PM | | casiopeea have you tried Ibogaine theraphy? | |
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Posted: 12/15/2007 3:03:59 PM | To be truthful, I never could figure out why anyone would want to do illegal drugs for anyway, for one thing you don't know what is exactly in the stuff the drug pusher is selling you, for another you don't know the short-term or long-term effects of these drugs you are buying. After hearing about how screwed up some people get from taking them, it makes me wonder why anyone would be stupid enough to take them in the first place or even consider taking them. The stuff that drug pushers were selling when I was in my teens was mild in comparison to what is being sold by them now a days, right now you run the chance of either getting you brain fried or dying before your time or committing crimes you wouldn't normally think of doing if you weren't under the influence of these drugs. I never did drugs when I was in my teens because I could never figure out what useful purpose it served or spending money on something like that plus I was too scared of what they might do to me once I was under the influence of these drugs, so I thought twice about it and decided not and I am very glad I did!
I have a second cousin, who is about two years younger then I am, when she was about fifteen years old, she had a child by a guy who was abusing drugs and alcohol, when the child was born, it was severely disabled because of the fact that the father was doing drugs and abusing alcohol. The child was a little boy who the doctors figured wouldn't live more then six weeks because of being severely disabled, this little boy was born blind, severely mentally retarded, a blue baby and paralysed from the waste down, he couldn't walk in other words. The little boy fooled the doctors, he lived to be thirteen or fourteen years old, then died and long before that had to be placed in a home for severely disabled children to be taken care of properly because my second cousin had no choice, she wasn't able to take care of him. This was all because the father of the child abused drugs and alcohol and not the mother of the child!
If I was the parent of the two boys, who created this thread, I would warn them of the serious consequences of doing drugs because they are not only running the possibility of ruining their own lives but other people's lives as well, including any children they may have in the future. I would ask them if they are only thinking about themselves or would they consider thinking about the people who care about them and their future children, do they want to bring children into the world, that are severely disabled or not? If I was this parent I would also take them to a drug rehab center and show them what would happen to them if they still considered doing drugs.
But sometimes even that or anything else wouldn't work either because some people never do listen until it is too late and they are really in trouble, why they don't listen when given good advice to stay away from such things before that happens is beyond me but they do! Even if they do get into trouble because of doing drugs they still won't quit and the only thing you can do is pray that they use their common sense and stop before they start! I hope for the sake of these young boys and their father that they start using their common sense before they do run into trouble and quit, I wish the father the best of luck in getting his two sons to use their common sense and stop before it is too late! | |
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Posted: 12/17/2007 8:10:09 AM | chillywilly21 - It sounds like you've done pretty much all you can at this point so if I were you I'd just continue to be there for your sons and benefit them with the wisdom of your own unique experiences while reminding them of your disapproval.
Shaps - putting stress like that on someone can easily just backfire so that they end up more stressed, spending more time with the abusing friends, and doing harder drugs.
godddesss13 - You can't blame marijuana for your nephew being a moron who decided to get completely shit-faced in a foreign country. I can honestly say that I'm glad that he's is not going to a pilot as I wouldn't want to trust my life to someone so idiotic that they would mix drugs in an unsafe setting..
SWEETIE52 - Not all drug pushers are shady people working for the mafia, who stand on street corners wearing trench-coats that "pssst" us over and lead us into the ally to show us their assortment of illicit drugs laced with chemicals. Many of us do actually know what we're buying and what the long-term aswell as short-term effects are. Seeing as how you personally don't know or understand maybe it's time you did some actual research of your own. I suggest wikipedia or erowid.org which is a very popular and extensive website many of us use. | |
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Posted: 12/17/2007 6:24:34 PM | special j, why don't you tell that to the police since you're such an expert, okay or those in drug rehab, maybe they will enlighten you instead, right? I would love to see you tell that to a police officer or a family who have lost a loved one because of illegal drugs. Why don't you start doing that right now? Let's see you do that, seeing as you think you are so smart!
The use of illegal drugs started with my generation, long before you were even thought and I have seen what can happen to those who take illegal drugs as well. I have no intention of doing any such research as you suggest, I think it is you who should do the research on what happens to people who do illegal drugs and the long-term and short-term effects of illegal drug use! Let's see you walk into a drug rehab center and enlighten everyone there, I think you would be in for a shock!
You are spouting off with your mouth without knowing what you are talking about, young man, when you get older, around my age, you are going to regret doing it and using drugs, if you live long enough to do so that is and you will end up asking yourself, why you ever bothered doing drugs in the first place! It also sounds to me like you are already hooked on illegal drugs by the way you talk or you wouldn't be so willing to defend the use of them in the first place! I doubt very much if you even know what is actually in the drugs you buy from a drug pusher, do you or you would list them along with what you said, right?
Don't go shooting off your mouth unless you actually know what you are talking about, which you don't, it is quite obvious in what you said that you don't! The person who created this thread does not need to read the kind of garbage you put out in what you said, they are trying to find a solution to the problem not create an even worse problem by following what you have wrote and I hope that his sons don't read your garbage, either! | |
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Posted: 12/18/2007 1:55:11 PM | sweetie52 - I can tell the difference between Heroin and Marijuana and the scientifically proven short/long-term effects associated with each substance. Can you do the same?
The use of these substances didn't start with your generation. Things like Marijuana, Psilocybin Mushrooms, Ergot, Mescaline, and Opium have been used for hundreds and even thousands of years. Your generation was just the one that decided that it's acceptable to put people behind bars with murderers and rapists simply because they choose to have unhealthy habits. While these people who were victimizing nobody got abused in jail your hypocritical society was swimming in alcohol, a drug proven to be far more dangerous than Marijuana and most other illegal substances that even today still utterly ravages Native American communities.
Had it not been for your generations hypocritical failure prohibition we wouldn't have to worry about drugs laced with harmful chemicals. I'd be picking up my Marijuana drug at the same LCBO you get your Alcohol drug.
The person who made this thread will thank me when she no longer has to worry about her sons being stabbed, raped, beaten, or killed in jail because I protested to get these draconian laws abolished that your racist and ignorant generation stupidly imposed on the rest of us. | |
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Posted: 12/18/2007 6:37:53 PM | Special J, ignorance is bliss and you've got it by what you said, you sound so much like the hippies of the 1960's, it isn't even funny and you still don't know what you are talking about as usual! You weren't around when the hippies of the 1960's were around, you weren't even thought of, do you really want to know what was happening back then with illegal drugs? Back in the 1960's and 1970's when the use of illegal drugs started, there were university students who got high on L.S.D. (acid) and decided that they could fly like Superman off of buildings on the campus of their university and ended up dead. There were other university students who also got high on L.S.D. and decided to stare at the sun without the aid of any special eyewear, two ended up legally blind and the third student ended up totally blind. Plus there were others who used that drug and had what they called a "bad trip" and committed suicide. By the way all of this was happening in the United States, look it up in the newspaper archives in a library near you, it should enlighten you, since you are so keen on research!
Just because my generation started it, doesn't mean your generation has to continue doing the same stupid thing, nor is it okay to do so. You don't keep making the same stupid mistake a previous generation made and use it as an excuse to do illegal drugs that is copping out! When you learn that a previous generation made the mistake of using illegal drugs, you are supposed to learn a good lesson from it and not make the same mistake they did or don't you realize that?
Making laws to prohibit the possession and sale of drugs is there for a very good reason, it is for your protection and the protection of other people as well, the trouble is you don't see it that way, you see it as a form of punishment only and it is not! I think that when or if you ever do see it as a protection for you and others, if at all, will probably when it is too late and you are laid to rest in a early grave because that is where you are headed right now. But like I said, you don't see it that way and because you don't see it that way, those laws will remain in effect until others like you do see it as a form of protection and in your best interest, it is someone like you who actually helped bring in those laws, along with my generation. You have just as much to do with bringing in those laws as I did and my generation, only it hasn't dawned on you yet and probably never will. I'll still be around when they put you in that early grave I mentioned above and I'll be able to say then, "I told you so!"!
Heaven forbid, that the sons of the person who created this thread ever read the kind of garbage you put out, they most certainly don't need extra problems in their lives and hopefully they live a very long and healthy life compared to your fate that awaits you in the future! I'll bet you haven't got the guts to tell your garbage to a police officer like I told you before, have you? It doesn't surprise me one bit! | |
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Posted: 12/18/2007 10:20:52 PM | sweetie52 - Much of the BS you spew like the Pennsylvania/California blinding incident has been proven to be a fabrication or an extreme exaggeration. If you actually did the research as opposed to believing everything you hear in the tabloids you'd know this. LSD while not the safest of drugs has been proven not to be addictive and most people who have infact used the substance do go on to lead perfectly normal constructive lives.
I bet the segregation, homophobia, and other racist policies and attitudes towards foreigners that were rampant in your generation was there for our protection and in my best interest aswell huh? Sorry Grandma but neither you nor anybody else should have the right to lock up people merely for choosing to consume an unhealthy substance. 63% of Canadians agree with me on this.
I don't personally care if I outlive you or not. Life isn't about how long you live. To me 30 years of doing the right thing and being good to your fellow man is always better than 70 years of ignorance, shame, and hypocrisy. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2007 6:07:47 PM | Special J, someone like you for instance who defends the use of illegal drugs are in the minority now a days, as far as your generation is concerned because the majority of people of your generation have learned a good lesson from my generation and are no longer using illegal drugs of any kind! The number of people who use illegal drugs has dropped drastically and they are of your generation, according to my research and from what I read about it, look it up and you will see that people of your generation no longer condone the use of illegal drugs. Ask high school students what they think about the use of illegal drugs and the answer will surprise you!
What right thing could you possibly have done in your thirties years of living, all you are trying to do is make my generation the scapegoat and using them for your excuses for doing illegal drugs, what you are doing is nothing short of a cop-out and that is exactly what you are doing! You are the one who is showing hypocrisy and ignorance, you are the one who should be ashamed of yourself, not me, I never did illegal drugs when I was young, I knew better and I knew about better things to do with my money then blow it on garbage like you do! By the way when is the last time, you told a police officer your line of garbage, still haven't got the guts for it, have you, instead you would rather take on a woman like any coward would? Show some guts, talk to a police officer and tell the police officer, what you have told me, you can't can you?
When you have done that then come back and talk, not tell then! Do the research I have told you to do, it might teach you something useful and make you realize that you are in the minority! | |
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Posted: 12/19/2007 7:54:12 PM | | How about instead of arguing over the politics of recreational drugs, speak with your children and teach them some real values. Too many parents now a day sit their kids in front of the TV or the latest game console and have no connection with your children. Guess what, you have to raise them and when they hit their teens and rebel against you, they don't listen any more. You have to instill your values and morals on them at a fairly young age. By the time they hit 14, you won't have a lot more influence on them. I was lucky and ended up being kid # 7 out of 8 and my parents gave me a lot of freedom that my older brothers and sisters didn't get. They also learned how to discipline me and the biggest fear I had growing up was disappointing my parents. They never hit me, rarely yelled at me but when it came time for a lecture, I listened and respected them. My parents are still alive and together, rewarded by 17 grand children, all solid families. I and my younger sister still have not had children. More to good kids to come. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2007 11:52:30 PM | sweetie52 - clearly you haven't read the RCMP's Drug Situation Report as if you did you'd know surveys have shown illegal drug use numbers to be around 44.5% of the entire Canadian population with 30% use among teens 15-17 and 47% use among those 18-19. Had you also read Macleans you'd know that support for an end to prohibition has risen from 25% in 1975 to 63% today. I was actually a high school student not that long ago so unlike you I know what the **** I'm talking about.
Firstly I don't use your backwards generation as an excuse to do drugs. I do drugs because I enjoy them and it's my right. A right that unfortunately has been taken away based on greed, ignorance, and racism. Yes I said racism, as if you actually looked at the history of the first anti-drug laws made in Canada you'd find out it was created as a result of the intolerance towards Chinese immigrants.
LOL Im coping out yet your calling me a coward for debating a "woman" on the internet? WTF is wrong with you? For your information i have spoke to cops before and many have said they would rather be arresting real criminals that actually victimize others as opposed to hypocritically enforcing others health. If you still think im a coward though please come down to Queens Park on the first Saturday in May as then you'll actually see me and thousands of others smoking up right infront of the Police. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2007 6:22:12 PM | | Special J, you make me laugh whenever you post your answer to what I have said! But then again I could use a good laugh and you provide me with one every time, thanks! Keep them coming! It sure doesn't take much to get a rise out of you and you rise so beautifully, I think I'll come back tomorrow for another laugh from you, okay? | |
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Posted: 12/20/2007 6:32:28 PM | | TEFUNMAN, I am very glad to read what you said about your upbringing and that you have done so well, it proves that there is still hope for this world we live in and I wish there were more young guys like you! You sound like you are a credit to your parents, they must be extremely proud of you, you could teach a lot of people how to live their lives, whether they are of your generation or not! It is extremely nice to read what you have written compared to what I have read in this thread and been responding to, you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders, way to go and keep it up! I sincerely hope that the children of the person who created this thread read your response, gain something of value from it, maybe you could tell the young boys about what you said and steer them in the right direction, I am sure! | |
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Posted: 12/20/2007 10:10:42 PM | sweetie52 - Excellent cop out.
I wish I could say that your kind of Ignorance makes me laugh but it just makes me sad and upset when I know that it's responsible for taking kids like this mothers boy away from his family and throwing them behind bars with murderers and rapists for what is at best a health issue. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2007 4:32:06 AM | Hi Chillywilly, I was running into the same problem as you are with my 16 year old son. I was noticing he and his friends were coming home stoned after school. I realized at this age, peer pressure and wanting to experiment were big issues.
I didnt freak on him, as i realized this would just push him away, and shut down all communication. I took it as my chance to educate him about moderation. I explained to him that he couldnt go to school and function like that.
We negotiated a deal where as long as he wasnt skipping school,was doing his homework,and keeping his grades up, that if he wanted to smoke some on the weekends with his friends, that i would allow that.
This has seemed to work so far.
Just wanted to add that i recently read somewhere that if you are going to talk to your teens about drugs use, to not lump pot in with other drugs. Kids know there is a difference between pot and other drugs. If you tell them that pot is as bad as meth, they will just laugh at you, therefore, they will not take seriously anything you have to say on the subject. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 11:03:22 AM | not to be mean.. but the sources of your information are dubious at best.. drug use is at a all time high across the spectrum in the USA, there are more drugs than EVER BEFORE in the US, and Canada, Drugs on world wild markets are cheaper than ever before, you must understand that drugs are illegal for different reasons, none of them have to do with the dangers of use.. which is minimal when compared to Alcohol, Pharmaceutical drugs, Being over weight,Car accidents, and pretty much every other cause of death, the MOST illegal drugs in the US ( called Schedule 1 ) are mostly ALL of the psychedelic drugs the ones that DON'T HURT anyone... Cocaine, and Morphine are of course Schedule 2, which are not as bad legally ( surprise? )... most of these drugs are illegal because the make more money that way... drug lords and most of the worlds governments make lots of cash of these drugs... ask your self about the drug war that has lasted since the 70's and ask if it ever worked.. now as someone from Peru,Guatemala,Honduras, and other south and central American countries if the American drug war was really about drugs?
you talk about your generation not doing those drugs ? well sorry to tell you but your generation dose LOTS of drugs, prescription drugs and Alchohol are the two most common and the most addictive... there is ALOT of misinformation out there.. and you really have to be careful where you get your information, i would suggest that you do not just read one book and then decide thats the truth.. try reading 10 books then you might start to understand the complexity of the issue and another issue, that OUR governments have a hand in this themselves, so information from the DEA's website, or a book by "The Partnership for a drug free America" might not be the best place to get your information, you can even read ACTUAL drug studies and about programs in other countries to see how things really work, to see what drugs are really dangerous...
that having said there are dangers and risks in there use and you must be informed as informed as possible... but please keep perspective do not let decades of lies and brainwashing distort the truth of things....
why not talk to police or the families of people who have died from alcohol abuse, or from abuse of Prescription drugs.. or car accidents.. or from a poor diet? because ALL of these causes literally DWARF those from illicit drug use | |
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| Teens and drugs
Posted: 4/9/2008 7:57:05 PM | I'm sure I am the last person that should be offering up advice on teens and drugs as Iam only 20 and am barily an adult and do not have any kids. I smoke pot on occaision, mind you it's only once every three months if that. I think that if you can be responsible about it, like alcohol, it's not so bad, as long as you're smart about it. My parents are having a hell of a time with my 15 year old sister. She has no sense of right and wrong. She has run away on three seperate occaisons where the police have to bring her home. She geting mixed in with the wrong crowd and does at least pot that I think is mixed with other things. She'll go to class stoned if she bothers to go at all, she'll lie to authority figures to justify her actions which inturn have a negative impact on our family. Family and Childrens Services have been involved twice to investigate and each time have come to the conclusion that she is just a typical out of control teenage girl with no respect for anyone or anything. My mom is at the end of the rope and no longer has a heart left for her to break some more. I have never met such a self centered person, and I know it's horrible to say, but she used to be a sweet little girl.
The thing is though, you can only dicipline them so much, tell them what is right and wrong so often, moniter what they are doing, they'll always find a way to get around you unless they truly want to give it up and become a decent human being. If you are deeply concerned I'm sure there are support groups or programs you can try and enroll them in. As hard as it may to do it though, the best way to have them come around is to let them hit rock bottom. Let them live and make their mistakes, but don't bail them out every time they are in trouble. Maybe they need to learn the hard way that there are consequences to their actions and every choice that they make. Let them come to you for help when they realize that they need it. They will become a better person for it, and you will have a stronger relationship when it's all over. Just make sure you stand your ground, praise them when they do well and be supportive.
But than again, what do I know right? | |
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| Teens and drugs
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:12:21 PM | Stupid kids and drugs. I sure as hell never needed drugs when I was a teenager and I honestly live in one of the most boring towns in South Eastern Ontario which is chalk full of environmentalist hippies and people who are boring. But then again, I also know that my parents would have disowned me if I had ever used drugs, I would probably be living on the streets or in some crappy apartment building with a crack head roomate if I had ever touched drugs. Since I am legally allowed to drink, my parents won't stop me but they would also kill me if I was ever caught drinking and driving or got into an accident because of it.
Either way, I would not be all that concerned about teenagers smoking pot, even I have done it a couple of times now that I am an adult and mature enough to make my own decisions but it is mainly at concerts, but like with alcohol, there has to be a designated driver. I would be more worried about kids doing harder drugs, sniffing glue or doing crystal meth for instance.
To the person right above: Sounds like your parents should have your sister thrown in jail for a week and see if it will scare her straight, cause that is the path she will eventually wind up walking and no one wants to wind up in prison. If my 16 year old brother was out of control, I would literally beat the living crap out of him until he got the message and then go after his little bastardly friends. Thank god he isn't like that though and I can trust him, as much of a pain he is sometimes, he is a good kid. | |
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| Teens and drugs
Posted: 4/10/2008 10:27:21 PM | | I'm envious! I wish I could say the same for her. I have a 6 year old brother though and we're close. I'm going to force him to be a good kid lol. | |
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