| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/4/2008 10:59:58 PM | | Whitetigeress, Have you found that to be true? Just wondering. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:30:36 AM | Dreamerxoxoxo,
No need to apologize for speaking your mind. I agree with much of what you said. I only wish you'd acknowledged how much unkind, derogatory stuff about men appears in both the profiles and the forum posts of many women on this site. It's a little depressing for me to see so much of it--like you, I thought this was a dating site!
I could ask the same thing you did, only about why these *women* are even here. I could also speculate, as you did with men, whether it was these women's way of retaliating for what life had dealt them.
From what they say, it seems some women think that whatever grievance they have against men somehow *justifies* them in acting badly toward any given man. Not in my book, it doesn't. I don't much care for--or trust--chronically resentful people. And that's what self-appointed victims inevitably are, whether they consider themselves victims because of their sex, race, religion, or whatever. Well, they can just get over it--lots of people have had worse breaks.
The irony is that when these "victims" happen to be women, their hostility makes many men consider them bit**es. But actually, they are the exact opposite of the sort of "bit**" this author seems to be encouraging women to be.
Incidentally, I'd guess the tricky title was an attempt to make the book stand out from its thousands of competitors. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:53:19 AM | | If you are talking about these gals who think it is cute to be a ****, no. I do not love them and I do not play that game. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 7:48:34 AM | | Men loving ****es is the same thing as women falling for the bad boy. Myself I personally can't stand ****y women, the challenge part wears out quick. It's also a lot of hype, its almost like bragging rights. A if your the guy who is able win over the girl who shoots down a bunch of guys then your " Da man " . For me a there is no B.I.T.C. H acronoym a **** is a **** no matter how you slice it. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 11:01:49 AM |
I've read a few of these pop psychology/relationship books and I have found virtually all of them to contain mostly rubbish, bad argument, personal prejudice, shoddy science and little of value or worth to say about decent human relationships.
If one does a search at a well-known online bookseller under the Dating (Social Customs) + Single Women + Mate Selection categories, and then does a ranking by sales, the book which is the topic of this forum comes out #1. And it's been out more than five years. So it tells women something that resonates with them and that they want to hear. (That they're all "babes"...  )
It's only natural that someone with a radio program would hit on what works.
From the guys perspective, it's like The Rules, or whatever is the current stupid fad -- it's required reading you have to just pinch your nose and get down because it tells what's going on behind enemy lines, what delusions they're currently embracing. Take away the first word of the title and it's like an imperative directive. That's all that matters. If you're looking at this genre of books for good science or sound advice you'll always be disappointed. IOW, I agreed w/you. It doesn't have to be true if they believe it is.
BTW - searching under Man-Woman Relationships + Love & Romance + Sex Relations, this book is ranked 3rd in sales; " Why Men Marry Bitches" is 5th. Both are ahead of another well-know recent awful best-seller.
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 11:35:12 AM | | They do?? So that's what I've been doing wrong. I've been told that but I just didn't listen. Tut tut - silly me. Now I get it. Babe in total control of herself. Gottit. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:07:15 PM | It's been a long time since any man called me a bi***! What can I say...age mellowed me!!
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:09:59 PM | I have read this book. There is SOME truth to it.
The title is deliberately inflammatory. It's not really about men loving ****es. It's about men being more likely to fall for women who respect themselves, which is pretty true. I have noticed that when I pursue a guy, he seems less interested, but when I lay back and let him pursue me, he doesn't stop calling. Men always say that they love when women pursue them, but in my experience, they like being the pursuers, whether they're aware of it or not.
Basically, the book says that men will walk all over women who allow themselves to be walked on. This is true. I have seen men go above and beyond to please a demanding girlfriend and I have seen men say "oh, I'm only an hour late, she'll be waiting" about a sweet and agreeable girlfriend.
Something that annoys me on PoF forums is that many men actively seek to canonize themselves on these boards. I'm sick of guys complaining that they're "nice guys" but won't touch fatties, "nice guys" but won't pay for McDonald's, "nice guys" but won't date women their own age, "nice guys" but run screaming if their date has a kid. Luckily, I am engaged to a real nice guy. Someone who always pays. Someone who holds the door for old MEN, not just young foxy ladies. Someone who gives his seat up on the bus to pregnant, disabled and elderly people. Perhaps if more guys truly were "nice guys", we wouldn't need books like this one. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:45:39 PM | Only the Ones that are WELL TRAINED LOVE their B!TCHES    | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 2:21:49 PM | Littleaudrey,
About the last part of your post--are you saying that you've seen guys on here claim they were nice, and also wouldn't "touch fatties," "pay for McDonald's," etc.? Just curious--I wouldn't think that a woman wasn't nice just because preferred not to date fat guys, or preferred guys who were somewhat older or younger than she was. Would you? | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/5/2008 2:36:48 PM | The same reason why women like the "bad boys".
Something that annoys me on PoF forums is that many men actively seek to canonize themselves on these boards. I'm sick of guys complaining that they're "nice guys" but won't touch fatties, "nice guys" but won't pay for McDonald's, "nice guys" but won't date women their own age, "nice guys" but run screaming if their date has a kid. Luckily, I am engaged to a real nice guy. Someone who always pays.
Not dating fat women, women with kids, or women around his age doesn't make a man a jerk. Maybe he isn't attracted to fat women. Maybe he isn't interested in raising a child at this point in his life. That's a big committment. Maybe a man is generally more compatible with older or younger women. Also, many men don't mind paying. But a man should NOT be expected to pay the entire bill. If a man was a jerk during a date, but pays the entire bill, Does that all of a sudden make him a nice man? | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/7/2008 1:53:46 PM |
About the last part of your post--are you saying that you've seen guys on here claim they were nice, and also wouldn't "touch fatties," "pay for McDonald's," etc.? Just curious--I wouldn't think that a woman wasn't nice just because preferred not to date fat guys, or preferred guys who were somewhat older or younger than she was. Would you?
I would think the same of her as I would a man, and would have no pity for their singlehood. You give a little, take a little. I suppose it's that I find it so foreign that people judge others by things that seem irrelevent to me. So, my fiance is a few extra pounds and isn't well off, but he is a gem who loves me and treats me well, who spent every penny he had to take me to the ritz carlton for my birthday and got on one knee and proposed to me. I am the envy of my single friends (and some of my taken friends, too), and I have never equated love with superficial junk. No, I don't tend to associate with the types of people who judge a person by their height, weight or wallet and I'd be loathe to call anyone like that a friend, regardless of gender. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/7/2008 2:47:05 PM | No, I don't tend to associate with the types of people who judge a person by their height, weight or wallet and I'd be loathe to call anyone like that a friend, regardless of gender.
There is a huge difference between judging someone and not being attracted to them. I wouldn't date fat men because I'm not attracted to them. However I wouldn't be rude to fat men just because of their weight. There are some men who have turned me down because they are attracted to larger women. I wouldn't consider them to be rude. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/7/2008 2:54:05 PM | | my last girlfriend was a true nasty one with her mouth. some of the things that came out of it in arguements, a baseball bat upside the head would of done less damage. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/7/2008 5:11:11 PM | []
because they're dogs?
seems like a perfect answer to me.....
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/7/2008 8:31:41 PM | Yes I read the book, then threw it away. It seemed to promote a form of game-playing which just isnt my style.
There are other ways to improve your self-esteem which are healthier and honest. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:04:57 AM | I've read the book and it's basically manipulation.
Unfortunately most women, and they don't want to hear it, aren't attractive enough to pull this off.
Men will put up with a lot if you are hot enough. Most women just aren't hot enough. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:12:52 AM | Says the pretty young lady with who's been favorited 491 times. The truth sears this thread like a branding iron... | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:29:04 AM | It seems (TheEmeraldTeardrop) has got a pretty good idea..."Men will put up with a lot if you are hot enough"...Thanks guys, "You keep screwing the works up for all of us guys that know how to treat ****ES"...To some degree its true...Some men can be such wimps...Some (men)... | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 9:13:18 AM |
It's about men being more likely to fall for women who respect themselves.
Huhh?? Self respect has nothing to do with being a biatch or a dush bag. As a matter of fact, people who create the biatch or dush bag persona usually lack self respect and confidence. It is a way for them to compensate for their shortcomings and insecurity! Just like bad boys are compensating for their lack of self respect and confidence.
The bottom line is this: A person with self respect will recipicate nice with nice!!!!
Personally, if a woman throws on the biatch attitude or shows tendencies thereof, she will find herself on the curb faster than she can say goodbuy! Now, I love a self confident woman, but they are never biatches! | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 9:18:54 AM | Men will put up with a lot if you are hot enough. Most women just aren't hot enough.
Wrong! If your hot and a biatch, you might achieve some rumps in the hay! But eventually, these hot biatches will be kicked to the curb just like any other biatch. As a matter of fact, as men matures, a woman's sex appeal devalue in currency while their substance appreciate in value!! Hence, a biatch, any which way you slice it will loose in the end. Just like any half a$$ bad boy. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 9:29:45 AM | | I loved Sadie. For 12 years she walked right beside me and was always ready to give her life for me. For 12 years she never asked for anything but food and never shunned my affection. What a ****. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 1:01:05 PM | Happygilmore2, "Men will put up with a lot if you are hot enough...Most woman just arent hot enough...
All theses words wisdom came from a 24 year with 400 favorites...Geez the knowledge this young woman has, amazes me..
Another, " better than average looking gal making lame duck comments"... | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 3:25:41 PM | Whitetigeress, Have you found that to be true? Just wondering.
well matchlessm, it seems to me then when a woman tells it like it is the same way men do, she gets called a **** *groans
women who are fiery in mind tends to be equally fiery in soul ... where passion lies
and yes, i do find this to be true because i do speak my mind however only been called a **** once
i tend to surround myself with men who can handle the truth and know better then to call me names ... they have become good and dear friends because of their understanding , tolerance and respect
no book needed here | |
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