| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 3:42:01 PM | I personally cannot stand a contentious person. I have had to work around women that are caddy, mean spirited, vicious and try to manipulate men. I personally have found throughout my life that those women who I have despised the most were women who think they are so much better than anyone else and are constantly looking to cause injury to others though slander and other vicious remarks. I cannot comprehend why any guy would be attracted to a woman like that other than they have lust issues and only want to use her. I personally run somewhere else around women like that.
Now with that said. Some women get accused of being a b*tch but are not. I admire a woman that stands for her principles, has a backbone against injustice and is able to express her thoughts and feelings. The key however is that she articulates herself well, considers everyone rather than just herself and is driven with a heart of compassion. Because she is willing to take a stand for a just cause and try to see justice prevail some may accuse her of being a b*tch because they feel threatened by her forthright demeanor and convicted of the unrighteous they were participating in. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 5:43:11 PM | | Well said, (Lawman in Black)...I agree with your response...Usually the real ****es end up at the end of the bar, all alone, anyhow...They wonder why they are alone, blaming the world for their own injustices...I could give a rip, how hot they are!... | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 9:55:43 PM |
Now with that said. Some women get accused of being a b*tch but are not. I admire a woman that stands for her principles, has a backbone against injustice and is able to express her thoughts and feelings. The key however is that she articulates herself well, considers everyone rather than just herself and is driven with a heart of compassion. Because she is willing to take a stand for a just cause and try to see justice prevail some may accuse her of being a b*tch because they feel threatened by her forthright demeanor and convicted of the unrighteous they were participating in.
I'm sure I've been called a **** many times over what you have stated, but oh well. I can't say I always articulate myself well, but now that I'm older, I do try. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/11/2008 10:02:55 PM | | I am a ****, proud of it... why, we are a challenge.... and I love that too... play a man's game better than he can. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 11:15:12 PM | lawman Great post. You seem like someone who thinks for themself, not a sheep.
I admit, I did pick up this book at the library. Didn't read it, skimmed through it. The title is just that, a "hook" to get people to buy the book. My daughter did read it, so I got the meat of it from her. She's a very sharp young lady (not to MY credit) I do trust her judgement.
I think lawman pretty much nailed it, from what my daughter said. Women that don't tolerate BS, are not vulnerable to being manipulated or schmoozed. Speak their mind in a very direct, forthright manner, yet are still kind, soft hearted, compassionate, gentle with people's feelings, a decent human being that cares about people but unafraid to speak up and call it as they see it. It does have a ring of cliche to it, but I'd much rather someone know what I think or how I feel than have to guess, or try to decipher clues or hints.
If men and women would just communicate more freely and openly. It's one of those eventualities that sometime, if you spend enough time with a person you'll know what they think and feel and how they react anyway and when it comes as a surprise or from out of the blue. Well me personally, I wonder why they didn't just cut through the fluff. Okay....good to know, wonder why they didn't express that sooner.
I believe that when people know, knowledge is a great thing, it enables all of us to make better decisions. Knowledge makes communication much more valuable, it's a shame that there's barriers to fear of well if I said that...what will they think. It's called relationships because it's based on relating. How can someone relate to someone when they don't know what they think or how they feel? Not just romantic, but ALL relationships, the same principles apply to all relationships.
Here's how I think it happens. We meet someone that we may want to or have (romantic, friends) or have to have a relationship with (family, work). The mind, conscious or subconscious constructs the "this is how I want that person to think of me". And then carefully a person molds themselves to fit that "construct". It can work for a time, but sooner or later, there's a revelation that doesn't fit the construct and there's confusion.
We don't fit someone else's mold of the "ideal" ....fill in the blank. Boss, coworker, neighbor, friend, significant other....oh yes, parent, child, sibling. People get caught in the inconsistencies of their "construct" and it's not often a great thing, but does provide something to talk about.
The "****" book, if I had to summarize, is about avoiding the constructs, not trying to fit a mold or image but being real and true and giving the other person the chance to either like, love, accept that's who you are or not. At least they're making a decision based on good, accurate information. That just seems to make sense to me. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/12/2008 9:24:13 AM | I think lawman pretty much nailed it, from what my daughter said. Women that don't tolerate BS, are not vulnerable to being manipulated or schmoozed. Speak their mind in a very direct, forthright manner, yet are still kind, soft hearted, compassionate, gentle with people's feelings, a decent human being that cares about people but unafraid to speak up and call it as they see it. It does have a ring of cliche to it, but I'd much rather someone know what I think or how I feel than have to guess, or try to decipher clues or hints.
^^ exactly.. however what i find myself is that sometimes its differcult to be direct for the sake of not being taken advantaged of or mistreated when i know it is going to yeild a negative response and quite possibly lose the person i'm direct with
i know this because i have had instances when men and women have spaced themselves from me afterwards....
i have a strong personality and attract like people but oddly enough we are sensitive to criticism lol... a quality i am still learning to master and think i do quite well but i find others dont, no matter how eloquently i try to come across.. like i said, they've spaced themselves so ive lost friends, sadly
i tell myself so be it.. if i have to be a "****' to get respect and lose people ... at least the ones left are true friends :) | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/12/2008 10:47:54 AM | Knowing the difference of being a friendly b..tch and a real one is quite an art.
It is best to have confidence, be yourself, and let the good time roll, it isn't a plan
to hurt anyone, just be assertive and be as gentle as possible to agree to disagree,
men love a flirt and with honey you can get far, being a friendly bi..h! It isn't
a powerful state of mind, just being equal having fun! | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:31:17 AM | Thank you for telling me I had a good post. I guess once in awhile I say something intelligent. Lol
This topic is similiar to trying to define the difference between arrogance and confidence in men. A lot women admire a man who is confident and not passive and double minded. Sometimes confident men can be labeled as arrogant. Arrogance is placing oneself on a pedastal at the expense of putting others down. Confidence is an action word of striving to get ahead and knowing it can be done. A confident person tries to elevate others to that same level or above. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/13/2008 11:40:10 AM | I like people that honor mutual respect period. That means be ready to show interest to let me know you like me. If I think someone dosen't like me I stop talking to them because they register as time wasted.
Secondly it also means not being clingy either. Respect that im busy but also show that you want to get to know me.
Coldness dosen't work with me thats all I can say. I ignore people who act cold towards me or like they can't speak politely. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/13/2008 12:11:48 PM | As described in some by some of the messages in this tread, I can understand it. Especially if your looking at it from a long term perspective. I mean what man wants a woman who can’t take care of herself raising his children?
But as far as the literal meaning of a **** goes, the only ones I love walk on four legs. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 3:50:04 PM | | Thats a huge theory that can never be proven. The book is nonsense. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 7:24:09 PM | If only people would not judge something until they have read it!!! The book is about not being a doormat for a man. It is about being true to who you are and not changing just to please someone else. It is also about loving yourself and setting boundries as to how you will be treated by another person regardless of their gender. It also is about realizing that you are special and there is no one else like you and if someone does not respect that and appreciate that you simply dust your feet off and walk away!! You don't even need to say a word other than "I will not allow any person man or woman treat me any less than the wonderful loving soul that I am."
The name **** in this book means being sweet like a Georgia peach with a strong unbreakable pit!! It is in no way a book about being rude, arrogant,demanding or any other form of ugliness. A true **** is a lady through and through and a loving, giving, wonderful sweet woman. One that knows what she wants and what she does not want.
I am proud to be a Babe in total control of myself, and someday one lucky man will be happy to call me his Babe In Total Control of Herself!!! | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/13/2008 7:41:19 PM |
The name **** in this book means being sweet like a Georgia peach with a strong unbreakable pit!! It is in no way a book about being rude, arrogant,demanding or any other form of ugliness.
Yes the title is "gimmicky" and in no way reflects the content of the book.  It's about women that have an intact self esteem, not about whining, controlling or manipulative egomaniacal, high maintenance women at all. This is truly an example of judging a book by it's cover.  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/13/2008 10:19:10 PM | | I do love women that are willing to be themselves in relationship as well as let me be myself. Not having to put on a show just to go somewhere. I'm one of those Hawaiian shirt, shorts, and sandals all the time kinda people and don't believe it's needed to dress up in slacks just to take her out some place common, especially for a walk down on the beach. Relationships are not about tempering others to be someone they aren't just so cover for your own "shortcomings". Where does it get fun anyway to make them how you want them to be? I mean do they have to think exactly as you want them, dress a certain way, etc... just to make you happy? That's not love... Being in total control of yourself doesn't mean controling others, especially trying to be cunning about doing it... We are all freedom at the very base of our nature. Any time you try to hinder that freedom beyond a certain limit, it's guaranteed we all will rebel to the extent we feel confined. No one ever loved doing what they were told they "had to" do even if they originally loved doing it... | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/14/2008 5:36:46 AM | | I think that particular title is all relative. I don't take offense for the most part to having that name applied to me. My friends call me a b***h all the time, but they use it with affection because to them it means I say what I think and don't give a fig what anyone thinks about it. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/14/2008 5:47:35 AM | | men love ****es because then they don't actually have to put forth any effort to be kind or giving..the ****es aren't obviously kind or giving, so therefore they see no need to do the same...makes perfect logical sense on some planets i guess..so...maybe the real question should be 'why do ****es wanna be ****es, and how can men learn to be kind humans'...novel idea huh?..rephrase the question and get some relief from all the ridiculous theories that are floating out there in this so called forum land... | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 5:58:43 AM | read it. loved it. everything the book explained i've tested and so far, the book was right. and for those of you who haven't read it, don't think that you're being called a
b!tch. and guys, don't think that the book is implying anything bad. if anything, the book boosts the men up a notch. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 6:01:47 AM | | for the record, the book just explains to a woman how she should never put a man's needs before her own, to have her own life and respect for herself and stop being needy...there's nothing wrong with that. the title is mainly to grab people's attention. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 6:02:19 AM | Amusing, in nothing but a discussion of a term relative to female dogs, you have 12 pages of answer, ideas and opines.
As always, the term "****" is simply another way for a non-interesting person to be "unique", and somehow, there is an outgrowth of that for "being in control", as if anyone is. Which is HIGHLY amusing, since lightning and tornados really don't give a shit whether you think you are special, and not a clone copy of previous versions, or that you work oh so hard to "be in control".
Delusions of granduer are still the same, be they they author or the reader.
Minor versions exist, they are called "Ego's".
I don't read trash, but I do enjoy true insight. I have a feeling this book is none of the above, and everything anyone that can think for themselves would do without paying the one time payment of $19.95, Hurry! Get yours now!
Ahhhhhh........but that explains why Oprah and Dr. Phil will eventually rule the world.
People do so love having other people tell them what they already knew, had they simply thought about it instead of Lemming Flocking to people or books that simply repeat what everyone else has already said.
What the flock!? | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/14/2008 6:20:39 AM | I dont think men love ****es, we just dont get much say in what women come along !
I have met loads, a good un****y woman is very hard to find.
I find most are very selfish and devious. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 7:25:24 AM | | I've not read the book but the title will sell books. While the concept of how to avoid the emotional heartbreak might be great in theory but as the H stands for HER "SELF" is the problem in the relationship to begin with. If "self" is all that is considered in the relationship it won't work. Maybe better reading would deal with the "we" or "us" aspects of how to treat others. Since I didn't read the book maybe that is what it does but the other posts makes me think not. Good luck to all!!! | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 7:34:39 AM | | Why would'nt a man enjoy an indepenent woman that enjoys dinner and sex once or twice a week? I suppose it would be her attitude...... | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 9:09:20 AM | | Cause they are cute, cuddly and give me a lot of love, and next month they are both due their rabies shots. Life would be dull without them. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/14/2008 3:22:33 PM |
men love ****es because then they don't actually have to put forth any effort to be kind or giving..the ****es aren't obviously kind or giving, so therefore they see no need to do the same...makes perfect logical sense on some planets i guess..so...maybe the real question should be 'why do ****es wanna be ****es, and how can men learn to be kind humans'...novel idea huh?..rephrase the question and get some relief from all the ridiculous theories that are floating out there in this so called forum land...
That may be one view of it, but no one really likes to spend most of their time both men and women alike taking care of someone else who is quite capable of being their own person, thinking for themselves, etc. I mean what's going to happen if one of them is always taking care of the other, then has to leave for like a week to an overseas business trip or something where they can't be there... how is the person going to know what to do if the other was always there to make the decisions and everything all the time? Yet it always seems to be the guy's fault for any reason when things go "wrong" and turn out the way they do in a relationship, having to take responsibility for every little thing that goes "bad". So where is the true equality that keeps being talked about so much? | |
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