| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/14/2008 3:45:05 PM | | being a b!tch doesn't necessarily imply that we are not nice, caring, considerate or that we are selfish. there is nothing wrong with being happy with who you are, and making your own happiness a priority. a lot of what it means is that we are not afraid to speak up for ourselves and vocalize our needs. since the dawn of time, women have always put their own needs last (their husbands, children and other family members were always put first). in many cases of a marriage falling apart, it is because a woman just has no more to give and is unhappy because none of her needs were ever really met due to the fact she was too preoccupied making those around her happy. the book pretty much explains how to balance out things out so that we are not neglecting ourselves, all the while maintaining self respect and properly putting ourselves out there. don't criticize it if you haven't read it. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/22/2008 10:41:24 PM | Ladies, correct me if I'm wrong but I was raised to believe that word simply meant:
Being In Total Control of Herself.
Peace
Shomesomethin | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/22/2008 10:50:04 PM | | well i have not read the book.. but i do not like ****es, but i can not speak for every guy.. hey!!! may be thats why i'm not married any more.. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/22/2008 11:07:18 PM | Sorry folks, I just couldn't resist this.......
Myself, I love women, so why is it that what I call a REAL WOMAN, is so often labeled
a **** by so many small minded(among other things) men?
As for the question" Why Men Love ****es" I wish to protest that statement, and change that to "Why Ignorant Men Call Women ****es."
In the first place, ignorant men/people always seem to admire or desire something they
can only wish they could emulate, because of what must be a lack of confidence in themselves. Thus, an ignorant man will often label what some of us refer to as a woman,
a "****". As far as I'm concerned, a **** is a female canine.
Peace
Shomesomethin | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/23/2008 1:37:44 AM | I dont think men like ****es....Everyone know's there's nothing worse then a ****y woman.. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/23/2008 3:04:29 AM | | To OP: I think this book can work for women who want to control a dude. It can also work for men too because some of the stuff in it applies to both men and women. If it works, then it gets an approval. Just gotta strip it down, **stardize it, and make it your own. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/23/2008 6:20:49 AM | | Men who loves ****es...are looking for a mother figure. No true man would let a woman become the man in the relationship. The other reason ..is that most men..have low esteem...if they let this woman go...this ****...they don't believe they can;t get another PY | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/24/2008 11:20:36 AM | | men dont and the ones that say they do are week meek men who still are scared of mom.myself i have to much respect for my mom and gram to even use that word but you asked and real men dont. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 6:17:10 AM | | My definition of a Biitch (based on experience) is someone who sits on their a$$ all day doing nothing and thinks she deserves respect and attention. How can anyone love that? | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 6:31:07 AM | | i have not read the book but due to the why men love ****es i would say becuae they need a psychiatriast. they truely enjoy being mistreated i guess. your guess is as good as mine. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 6:41:12 AM | | {sticks hand up in the air to indicate that I'll join the "Don't, and Won't" club...} | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 6:42:46 AM | | I don't get it either. But every man I have ever dated has held onto the memory of the woman that treated him like crap like she was a goddess. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 6:50:36 AM | | as u shouldnt beenfished. a woman nor a man should put up with that kind of treatment. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 9:01:13 AM | No respect for yourself but also respect for others is underrated as it is,without books to encourage disasters between each other.
peace | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 9:51:12 AM | I tend to agree with some in here, I personally could never put up with a "****" done it in the past aint doing that again.
Wouldn't a person that is more down to earth be less work in terms of total net energy to get valid two way communication or points across. I see guys dating someone that is difficult as defeating the purpose of a relationship or even friendship which is a means to network and interconnect with each other on many levels. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 9:58:38 AM | | I certainly don't like this type of woman. They are usally high maintenance, snobby and not very nice at all. Thankfully, I haven't met one recently. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 10:01:10 AM | We tend to admire people who have qualities we lack. Another person being more assertive than ourselves can make a person feel as if they're adding something to their life that makes them more complete when they have a relationship with them. Indeed, sometimes they are... but then it depends on how strong that personality is...
They (and we ourselves) always know what magic buttons to push when we want to win someone as a mate... but I think it's a good idea to observe how they treat others as well... and ask yourself if they're fair, considerate, honest, etc... because you CERTAINLY will be treated like that when the newness wears off.
I also think that to select a good mate, a person has to have a good opinion of themselves and require that a person they're with must have good qualities other than just making one feel like "a natural man" or "natural woman"...
Many times people who do that might think of you as "one of the guys" or "one of the girls" or something like that, and not appreciate your own individual qualities anymore than you do.
Respect and appreciation are knowing and liking a person's individual qualities as well. Without that, it's impossible to have a good LTR. It will always come up. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 10:55:16 AM | The problem with this book is being in control of your life is great, but they also want to control yours.
I dated someone who kept quoting this book. She was such a high maintenance pain. She had this aura about her that even turned off friends. She thought the world evolved around her, that her point of view always mattered, and that there were 2 ways of doing things; her way and the wrong way.
Some women are lost today; I always told people that women used to be the better sex; but instead of being better than men, they have become just like men. Men have terrible qualities and women try to be as arrogant, self absorbed and sleazy as men acting like its equality liberating. It's just plain sad.
Being a team player in a relationship, compromising and being submissive at times, sacrificing of yourself and reading the room and knowing when to be upset and when to let things go are all things that a strong, confident person in a great relationship do. But in todays society its considered weak; you have to get your way, be a big mouth, be a sarcastic insensitive jerk, flirt with others if you want, flirt with people on dating sites, and thats empowering? That's being control of your life? no thanks.
I dont like these women; I am attracted to sweet strong women who know what they want, are secure in their gifts and talents and want someone to support that, while they do the same to the man they are with.
Some dumb book isnt' needed. A good relationship is not as hard as you think. I know some don't believe in God, but for me the Lord is first my loved ones second and I am third. Life isnt' all about me, and I dont want someone that is used to having it be all about her and I think thats what all this control is talking about. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 11:14:51 AM | being a b!tch doesn't necessarily imply that we are not nice, caring, considerate or that we are selfish. there is nothing wrong with being happy with who you are, and making your own happiness a priority.
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Stop judging women like this is the 1950's or something. Many of you women are also making the same mistake your complaining about. Just because some women are caring, and loving and worry about their man or kids or famliy, doesnt' make them week; it makes them strong. Being self absorbed an arrogant doesnt' make you liberated; it makes you a jerk. They can still have their careers, passions, gifts and seek what they want. When you get married and have kids though, there is a sacrifice. Its' not all about you; for men and women; the problem is many still want to do whatever they want when they get married and have kids and the answer is you cant'; if you want to then DONT get married and have kids.
Thats exactly my point; their OWN happiness is a priority; above anyone elses'. Thats selfish its not liberating. We all want to be happy but if I'm happy and the person I'm with isn't, then I feel bad. That's what its about. Its' about teamwork. I remember when my father and mother are at their happiest; when their family was well, doing well, and everyone healthy. It was about their loved ones, and not all about them. Family outings and what they were into was very important too; they belong to things and support eachother; and they would do anything for their families. If you think a family is a burden towards your happiness, then dont have one.
CNN did a great article; the see me generation; its all about them; attention and what makes them happy; there are now seminars in business on how to deal with those under 35 because they have been taught that the world revolves around them and how to deal with their high maintenance ways.
Its not all about you ****es! You can't be self absorbed and be any good to anyone else. This is about if your not happy, then do something to make you happy and take control. Well there are enough affairs thank you.
And if you notice, there are a ton of posts that say my EX was a ****. lol; ex
I will never be with this type of person. I want a woman that will keep their identity but also realize in a marriage or with kids, there is much sacrifice. If its all about you and control, then do it alone. Some of the most humble, strongest and most giving and sacrificing people in life, are some of the greatest and happiest people on earth. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 4/26/2008 12:17:09 PM | I don't understand the appeal of said women. I consider kindness to be a strength not a weakness.
I like my woman to be sweet as a peach. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 5/2/2008 7:00:52 PM | do the last guy...
I don't understand the appeal of said women. I consider kindness to be a strength not a weakness.
I like my woman to be sweet as a peach.
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I couldnt agree with you more unfortunately its ALL about the chase.... bi tches are hard to chase.. lol thus more desirable...
read my post here: http://forums.plentyoffish.com/9505349datingPostpage2.aspx | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 5/2/2008 7:23:55 PM | ^^^^ I think you've got it backwards. Some women are attractive enough that they can dish out a lot of sh1t soup to a guy they don't care that much about (aka "be a b1tch") and still have the guy coming back for more (aka "love her") on the hope that it was just an aberration.
Another woman can look at such a dynamic and mistakenly think that it is because she is a b1tch that the guy loves her, when really it's just that she's hot and the b1tchiness is a side effect of that. That's how books like this get written, from a false premise.
Women who are not in any way attractive will find trying the being b1tchy approach will get them dropped faster than Britney Spears panties in the back of a limousine. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 5/2/2008 8:10:28 PM | "Women who are not in any way attractive will find trying the being b1tchy approach will get them dropped faster than Britney Spears panties in the back of a limousine."
hahaha.. thats a good one..
I still think there is something to the chase.. but your right if the girl isn't attractive, there is no reason for her to be a b1tch .. but.. in reality you will find many larger or unattractive women play the b1tch card much too often.. in fact go to your local bar and talk to fat women and see how many of them are as sweet as a peach and how many of them are b1tches.. you will find the majority are b1tches... interesting isn't it? ( might have something to do with how the unattractive ones are miserable but still interesting) | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 5/2/2008 10:08:57 PM | I must admit I read this book quite a long time ago but I don't remember it as being a book about controlling men, or treating them badly! Basically it was telling women 'don't let a man walk all over you, he won't respect you for it'. And there was a bit about making sure you tell a man when you are unhappy with something he did but NOT NAGGING HIM! What man wouldn't love that?
The main idea was that men want a woman who will be herself, have her own values, keep her own life going alongside her life with her man so that he sees you as an invdividual he can respect and you keep his interest. Not about either the man or woman being subservient or controlling the other.
From reading many of the posts on here this is what many men say they want. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 5/3/2008 1:55:40 AM | ^^^^ It was in the early pages of the thread where it was pointed out that the author used a somewhat unconventional and not readily apparent version of the word b1tch, because it would up the sales as an eye-grabber, and because it's trendy and cool these days for (some) women to be b1tches -- especially if they label themselves that, and then the word can mean just about whatever they want, it's all good.
I always like to read the negative reviews (1 and 2 star) at amazon.com for a popular book like this (400+ reviews there in all) to get an idea of what it's about... does the author really advocate women faking orgasms? Unfreakinbelievable! And if it's true that "the main idea was that men want a woman who will be herself", then if she's a doormat to begin with, why should she change, because isn't being a doormat just being herself? Inspiration rather than coherent logic is usually the strong suit of self-help books like this. Oh well. [Another one: if a doormat is "a person who is the habitual object of abuse or humiliation by another" (dict.) don't plenty of women want to choose the bad boy who treats them that way, and actually prefer such men over those who would treat them 'better'? I.e., don't some woman just want to be doormats?]
Anyway, most who have visited the thread later haven't read it all and are thinking of the word in its more usual usage. As a result, thread drift has set in and we're not really talking about the book any more. | |
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