| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/3/2008 1:55:40 AM | ^^^^ It was in the early pages of the thread where it was pointed out that the author used a somewhat unconventional and not readily apparent version of the word b1tch, because it would up the sales as an eye-grabber, and because it's trendy and cool these days for (some) women to be b1tches -- especially if they label themselves that, and then the word can mean just about whatever they want, it's all good.
I always like to read the negative reviews (1 and 2 star) at amazon.com for a popular book like this (400+ reviews there in all) to get an idea of what it's about... does the author really advocate women faking orgasms? Unfreakinbelievable! And if it's true that "the main idea was that men want a woman who will be herself", then if she's a doormat to begin with, why should she change, because isn't being a doormat just being herself? Inspiration rather than coherent logic is usually the strong suit of self-help books like this. Oh well. [Another one: if a doormat is "a person who is the habitual object of abuse or humiliation by another" (dict.) don't plenty of women want to choose the bad boy who treats them that way, and actually prefer such men over those who would treat them 'better'? I.e., don't some woman just want to be doormats?]
Anyway, most who have visited the thread later haven't read it all and are thinking of the word in its more usual usage. As a result, thread drift has set in and we're not really talking about the book any more. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/3/2008 2:38:41 AM | lifeofleisure - the bit about faking orgasms must have slipped my mind lol!
And since women being b1tches seems to be a popular topic of conversation the thread was bound to slip....I'm in a senior position in a company and industry dominated by males so I really am a b1tch. Apparently. To the older guys at least, younger guys don't seem to be bothered by working for a woman.
Now I'm off to have a really bitchin' day.. you all have one too.  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 12:06:14 AM | lifeofleisure - the bit about faking orgasms must have slipped my mind lol!
And since women being b1tches seems to be a popular topic of conversation the thread was bound to slip....I'm in a senior position in a company and industry dominated by males so I really am a b1tch. Apparently. To the older guys at least, younger guys don't seem to be bothered by working for a woman.
Now I'm off to have a really ****in' day.. you all have one too
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I have worked for men and women, as a younger guy I guess I dont care, but I know older guys found their women managers to be way harder to work for.. to the point of almost quiting cause they thought they were being singled out ... ( the company shall remain anonymous lol for this guy he would rather work for a man then a women anyday )
there is a lot of evidence to support this claim, I would honestly rather have a male manager myself.. but ofcourse there will always be exceptions to the trend.
would you rather get stopped by a women cop or a male cop ... I say male ... if your a male and I say male if your a women too they are kinder and easier going might even let you off with a warning for your inspection sticker or busted tail light the women will take you to the cleaners if she is on her 28 day duty cycle, I have never found a decent women enforcement officer as of yet ! again I am sure there are exceptions hell maybe someone reading this is an exception that works for law enforcement lol torture me but dont stick me in a room with a b1tch cause thats just cruel and unusual punishment
this article from way back when comes to mind glad I had it bookmarked:
http://www.personneltoday.com/articles/2005/02/08/27897/girl-power-are-women-the-worst-bullies.html
http://www.mymanagersnetwork.com/_forum/index.php?sub=82533&cat=11575&threadnumber=551804 | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 4:17:01 AM | | cruel and unusual punishment to be stuck in a room with a woman lol that is too funnny. poor fella. as far as police go i dont like any of them. never been stopped by a woman though. police in chat sites try to talk to me and i wont answer because i alreayd knwo they are an a hole. lol. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 5:26:24 AM | | Men can be b*tchy too! I can be a b*tch. I also like younger men. I don't like too many of the guys my age. I can be sarcastic as well. Sometimes you have to be, because this is such a competitive world! | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 7:45:39 AM | cruel and unusual punishment to be stuck in a room with a woman lol that is too funnny
Was only referring to a lady cop w/ pms have had my run in ( same one) on my way home a few times over the last few years every time this b1tch stops me ( she recognizes me) and I am praying to god.. lol
cant say anymore .. other then she is a blond airhead lol probbaly single on pof, wouldnt surprise me at all! and younger then me.. ( give a power tripping women a gun and this is the byproduct) most women are not this pathetic so I would like to clear up any generalizations. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 8:42:58 AM | the real message of this book is:
ladies, don't lose yourself in your relationship or your guy. be the same girl he liked in the first place.
a strategy most of us need a little help with...and one that most guys would like, given they started dating her in the first place cuz they liked who she was THEN.
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 9:02:11 AM | B!tches hide it from us. Then they become slightly controling, in a helpful way of course. Then a little more, and more, and more, until they run you by the nose and are afraid to sneeze.
B!tches are always alone in the end. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 10:05:44 AM | The H in **** stands for being in control of HERSELF not HIS SELF
This is the hilarious lament of the latter - love the pile of laundry in the background.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXYgKuu-6I0 | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/4/2008 10:16:30 AM | nutcase I knew you were talking about a cop. I think you should stop speeding or whatever your doing to make her stop you.  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/23/2008 6:02:14 AM | | thank you enough said. I get called a **** Im like thanks man i earned it!!! Total survial, you gotta be a high riding **** to survive, balance it with some kindness , add alittle seductiveness, and the recipe fits, men just get scared of women in control, | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/23/2008 6:36:21 AM | Poor poor girls. Some of them still think the saying “I have the pu$$y I make the rules” ..... still works.
That thinking is sooooo 80s.
They don’t seem to understand that survival and the ability to cope, assess the situation, alter our plan to accomplish our goal is built in to us.
The 90% of us men that are not wussies ..... simply will not put up with self proclaimed b!tch nor the attitude that often comes with that proclamation / thinking.
Standing up for yourself is one thing. Thinking you have the prize - therefore are entitled to make the rules - simply don’t work with most of us guys. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/23/2008 10:50:09 AM | When I told my mother about this book, she cracked up.
For the record, my mom is the most easygoing person in the world. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/23/2008 11:56:53 AM | my last ex was... well...
She said upfront she was controlling. I didn't know to what extent until more than a year later she sits in front of my parents' house and tells me she would leave me if I gave a kidney to my eldest sister who had been on dialysis for many years.
This from a woman who said family loyalty is the most important thing. What she really wanted was obedience to her authority.
A lot of times I think someone like this does not realize how they treat other people... or they just don't care because they are confrontational and expect to argue and fight with others.
I liked my ex because she had a sharp mind and was a dynamic person. She was a good strategist and planner.
But the subtle and not-so-subtle manipulations by her were infuriating. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/23/2008 12:12:01 PM | why do woman continue to go for players.... over and over and over.... then have the nerve to say "men are pigs'
What did the great philosopher Forest Gump say..... "Stupid is... is Stupid Does"  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/23/2008 1:38:27 PM | I'm not a bad boy. And I couldn't be one if I wanted to.
And the ironic thing is, I have had my run-ins with some "bad boys" and found them to be all bark and no bite.
A real man is hard to find these days. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/25/2008 3:30:35 PM | haha i agree the title can put you off!!! but its about being a stong women not a **** as such....someone who stands up for herself......no man really wants a yes woman!!!that's what is about i loved the book although still putting it into practise lol | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/25/2008 5:19:56 PM | I agree, I read the book and, as you stated, its about woman controlling their destinies and their lives. Having self-respect. There is nothing wrong with that, its Healthy!!
If a man does love or is interested in a woman who is truly a B.i.t.c.h, then he must like to be controlled and devalued himself, he is the one with issues.
In this day and age, woman are more in control of their lives, we work, raise kids by ourselves, have financial responsibilites that have to be met, etc. Unless a man wants to step up to the plate and help us out, then he has no right to tell us we're too independent, or we work too much, or we don't have enough time to devote to him. That isn't fair. Its hard to have balance in all these areas, most of us are just trying to do the best we can. Some of us have to work two jobs, be involved in school activities, and do all the other stuff to keep the ball rolling. Then a man comes along who it might be nice to get to know. We do our best to find the time to get together, but I find alot of guys just don't get the facts. They think we are playing games with them if we aren't always available to talk on the phone or meet up after work, etc.
I take offense to that, I don't play games with anybody, and I try my best to be honest. Seems like when I'm honest, they don't believe me. Go figure. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 5/25/2008 5:34:51 PM | | I ordered it from the library. It is in, and I need to pick it up.... can't wait. | |
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