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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 11:10:00 AM |
and shows women what to do to convey to a man
she isnt going to lose herself or let him control her... in
many very small ways.
Yes let's polarize the gender gap even more!! Let's do that shall we? After-all, we do want to control you women, it's all part of our plan for world domination MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!
I mean, what's-up with all these books for "liberating the female consciousness from male tyranny"? It's become like some sort of "anti-communism" campaign. I'm expecting to start seeing black and white newsreels about what's going on on the "home front" pretty soon to stomp out the human male from existence once and for all, thus freeing the world for female democracy everywhere (and unicorns, rainbows and ponies).
US versus THEM, that's really what it's about. While we guys read stuff written by a MARRIED guy like those Mars and Venus books so we can better understand you women and how to treat you better. You're just reading the same book agreeing with all the same stuff we're learning, instead of paying attention to learning about us, what makes us tick and how to treat us better.
Meanwhile we've got male authors writing stuff like "Face it, he's just not that into you" (also in a theater near you) seemingly "giving away" our evil secrets to women (and also cashing in quite nicely from the kinds of bitter women that suck this stuff up like the bloody, smelly, clot filled, menstruation in a maxi-pad).
Yeah, that's right ladies, WE ARE ALL EVIL!!! Yes you've "figured us out"........oh no I'm melting I'm melting ....... what a world.
Just do me a favor, if you're so damn -("I don't need no man"----snap-----snap)- "independent" then stop asking us for help and favors or expecting special treatment all the time!! Hold the damn door open for yourself and start buying your own $%#!@#!!! drinks.........jeez.
And while you're on your 15 minute break after your 16 hr day at work could you, go build me a house, fix my car, mow the lawn, trim the hedges, clean out the gutters, chop some wood for the fireplace, give me the credit cards because I need (the following); shoes-some jeans-a couple of shirts-a new TV-a playstation 3-ummm-uhh-just gimme some money for groceries, and don't forget to pay the bills, etc., etc.
kay? thanx ..... i wuv u
Mike | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 11:19:59 AM | [Women used to identify themselves with motherhood, caring, teaching, nurturing etc. now they want to call themselves b1tches. Very sad. Ladies you are not men and you never will be. You are not in charge. ]
The key is that women used to identify with a role but weren't always fulfilled by it and quite often they were abused, neglected and abandoned because at the time all the responsibility (and power) fell upon the man. Now with the "sexual revolution" and "female empowerment" women are trying on new roles and I think the pendulum went a tad too far, but it's slowly swinging back. However, we women still struggle with the fairy-tale complex which tells us that we are only going to be happy ever after if we're married to a man (and that in and of itself will complete us). Problem is, this makes no one happy in the long run! Men don't want to be responsible for a woman's self esteem and women can't get self esteem simply being married (or otherwise involved) with a man!
We're all humans and individuals and we need to go forth and find our own happiness first and foremost and then if we're diligent, we'll find a partner who compliments us and whose company we can enjoy out of bed as well as in bed. You come to the relationship as a whole person looking for another whole person. Not incomplete, looking for someone else to make you whole, marry you and all of a sudden all of your fears and insecurities go away - never gonna happen!
And no, I didn't come up with this all by myself. I've read so many (old and new) books that give this message I am amazed. Wish I knew it back when I was in my 20's and knew everything!  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 11:25:16 AM | I refute the spurious allegation
If they come with boots, above the knee
and can bake a magnificent chocolate muffin
I will love pretty much anything | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 11:42:10 AM | | " Ladies you are not men and you will never be. " I don't know, I've never associated a b1tchy woman with being masculine or independent for that matter. If anything, such women are rather needy and figure men exist to do their bidding. Some guys are attracted to b1tche$ out of some warped sense of chivalry I guess, and this validates their view of manhood. Could never figure it out myself. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 11:50:49 AM | For the MEN, check out some excerpts from this:
http://www.google.com/books?id=UMum1kfbosMC&dq=the+manipulated+man&printsec=frontcover&source=bn#PPP1,M1
Good book GUYS, I highly recommend this one. After reading so many of these "how do I treat a woman better" - "how do I understand women" type of books and practicing everything I read in them to absolutely no avail, someone from here or some other dating site finally wisened me up to reading this one. This was written by a woman, and was highly controversial in it's day (60's and 70's), even the hard-core feminists were pissed-off by it.
I'm sure there's more info by typing in; "The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar" into google or something. I checked it out of my public library, and I read the whole thing. Very, very eye opening. I'm definitely going to buy it and keep it handy. It's a very short and simple read, but very brilliantly written, sometimes funny and very direct and to the point.
While reading it, you'll see that it's simply not in a woman's best interest to actually be "equal" to a man. It might piss you off, but that's just the way it really seems to be. Even in "this day and age".
Given the option of actually having to live the way a man does, or having a man take care of her, a woman will always choose the latter. Even the ones who claim "they don't need no man". Men very rarely, if ever, even have this option. We really don't need a woman to take care of us, yet we volunteer our own "slavery" because of our sexual needs and desires.
Mike | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 11:56:37 AM | | I haven't read "the book" so can't comment on it specifically, however, for all those who classify women as ****es because they can do for themselves and don't need to rely on a man for anything other than their compansionship (including changing tires, household maintenance, cutting lawns, pruning hedges), go suck an egg. Oops, would that be my ****y side speaking out here? Likely. I can't stand gender "roles". If you don't like a woman who is self-sufficient, either man up and put the purse down or go find a "woman child" who likes to be the damsel in distress constantly. Personally, if I were a guy, I'd find that far more annoying - it would feel like constantly babysitting an adult. Do I have men friends help me upon occasion because of their knowledge with certain things where I lack their expertise or size and strength, sure - but I likewise do for them in the areas they are lacking. I love the equal footing and give and take aspect of male/female relationships, not preconceived notions of "roles". Strange though, how often I'm told that I'm so "independent" - it seems to me by that comment that men "need" to feel somehow either superior or worthy by the act of "taking care of you", when, in fact, they are worthy for simply being who they are and not for what they can do for you. | |
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Posted: 2/5/2009 11:57:03 AM | I think you misunderstand how the book uses the term 'control' Mike (and others as well)
In the book she gives an example of where if you were dating a man and he was trying so hard and baking you things and talking about marriage and going all out, and you've only been on a few dates - you'd think he was f.u.c.k.ing nuts and would run away.
The same thing applies to men. It's frightening if a woman is pushing too hard too fast. Things needs to be chill
In the above scenario, I would feel like the man is trying to control me and so this is what the book means when she says men like to feel in control. Women and men as well typically push too hard too fast and so that's why pushing for a commitment and getting too attached too soon makes a man feel frightened and things are out of his control and hence they run. It makes women feel the same way too so this concept applies to women as well. I don't want to feel controlled either and would not want a man to be in my face about commitment when he hardly knows me. Believe me, it has happened. It's called infatuation.
I find the reality of relationships is that we are more alike then we realize. After all we are all human aren't we? | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 12:04:13 PM |
Given the option of actually having to live the way a man does, or having a man take care of her, a woman will always choose the latter. Even the ones who claim "they don't need no man". Men very rarely, if ever, even have this option. We really don't need a woman to take care of us, yet we volunteer our own "slavery" because of our sexual needs and desires.
Men have the option. They just seldom take it because they know running a household and raising children are difficult thankless tasks plus it isn't manly. I think you guys do want to take care of a woman. You're just wired that way. You want to be Superman saving he damsel in distress.
I see guys whinging on here how they got taken and so on and so on and then continue to date women who can barely put a sentence together and works part time at a pet shop just because she is cute and good in bed. | |
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Posted: 2/5/2009 12:35:23 PM | "B.I.T.C.H. Babe In Total Control Of Herself..."
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!! | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 12:44:31 PM | Is this a new word game? If so:
Bad
Assed
Stupid
Turds
Always
Rutting
Dimwits
Re the following post - only if you're a super traditionalist Asian. I know many Asian women who rule the roost in relationships and who are ruthless in business (a land banking company I'm well acquainted with) where western men are on equal ground with Asian women in the business who have been born and raised in Asian countries and can barely speak English. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 12:50:08 PM | | Only westtern woman she is **** asian woman is not ****. that why western man he likes asian girl not white girl. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 12:54:33 PM | Because B!tches need d!cks to put her A$$ in check!  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 12:57:47 PM | It takes a certain type of man to handle a B I T C H! ...Most men can't handle a strong, independent woman..Simple really! | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 1:21:24 PM |
Only westtern woman she is **** asian woman is not ****. that why western man he likes asian girl not white girl.
Can someone translate this for me?
Ah so, **** means b*tch. Thank you for that in depth analysis Tia. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 1:41:48 PM | | Some women are insecure and men like needy women it is about the ego. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 1:45:16 PM |
Ah so, **** means b*tch. Thank you for that in depth analysis Tia.
was that Tia Tequila?? | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 2/5/2009 2:16:30 PM | You are not in charge. re a-loser==quote
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But we are in charge,of ourselves. Women have human rights now, at least in civilized countries.We are in charge of our sexuality, career, education,fertility and lives.Anyone who has read the book, would know its about women having their own lives and about self worth and emotional control.
Try looking at women on a human level, as fellow human beings, who desire love,affection and kindness.This is the way, I see men.We cant generalize about either sex, we are all individuals with our own life script.I have read posts on here, saying take away sex and what are women good for.How sad is that.Take away sex and what good are men, women really dont need men now for security anymore or to have kids.So whats the point of coupling at all.IMHO its because we are drawn to each other, to be companions,friends and lovers.Helpmates to each other, compassionate listeners and strong supports when things are bad.Its not just sex, thats the thing
Do I follow these books, nah!!I dance to my own tune.I never chase men, what a waste of time.I control my emotions and am happy alone if need be.I try to work on myself and be the best I can be and then I will attract the right person.There will be no need for games.I dont do games, boring.I dont care really, single or coupled I am still me and happy.Maybe I am a ****. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 7/21/2009 11:29:42 PM | I have begun to notice a pattern with some guys....
Early on, email/text/etc., if I'm rude and mean to them because they say something clueless, and never want to talk to them again, almost without FAIL I will hear from them again. I rarely act that way because I'm not a mean person.
What is with that?! Why would they want to keep in contact with someone who got mad at them and has decided she wants nothing to do with them?
Is this the secret to finding someone to worship us?????? Have I stumbled upon the Holy Grail here? | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 7/22/2009 12:49:54 AM | | I have found that either they ignore me totally after I do not agree with something they said, or they continue to communicate with me, because they have to have the last word and want to tell me what a **** I am. If I was a young, good looking woman they might be interested, so maybe they like good looking women who are rude and mean. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 3:34:05 AM | I don't like b|tches at all, but women I've really had a thing for I know seem like b|tches to some people. Just never are to me. I'm good with that. Those same people consider me arrogant for the crime of articulating thoughts so serve them right.
Maybe b|tchy women and arrogant men are in many cases just those with higher standards than the claimant.
As for me when I use the word b|tch for someone I'm not close with I am invariably substituting it for the word stupid, which is where someone is being abusive by choice and pretends they are simple minded and this is just normal to them.
Otherwise I might use it sparingly in jest with a woman I am close with, but one should be careful levelling such words in a relationship I think, any kind of frequency goes a little beyond rough humour. Imagine she says that was a bit gay of you a little too frequently, I mean it's not going to turn you around or anything but you might get the jack of hearing it.
My word for a woman who thinks guys actually like a girl who acts b|tchy is simply moron. Abusive guys may like it, otherwise someone is trying very hard to look past it and see your better qualities and you could help by using those instead.
Thought, word and deed in your daily actions decides much about your life, and what others have to put up with to be around you. Let b|tch be the description of others if that is the case, not an ambition you have. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 4:26:07 AM | I do NOT believe men who were raised correctly with morals, values, and respect truly love ****es. I think they like the abuse they were given as a child and their upbringing and they do not know any other way, they think it is okay for a woman to be a ****. IT IS NOT OKAY. PERIOD.
I WOULD NEVER BE ATTRACTED TO A BAD BOY, IT DOES NOTHING FOR ME. I AM LOOKING FOR MYSELF IN A PERSON...RESPECT BEING NUMBER ONE, SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH AND SAYS I MESSED UP, I WANT TO BE A BETTER PERSON AND TRULY CHANGE IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM PRIOR. AND TO NEVER EVER LOOK BACK ON YOUR PAST AGAIN...You cannot get it back...YOU CAN ONLY MOVE FORWARD...
When you are surrounded by TRUE LOVE, you can only give TRUE LOVE BACK.
When you are surrounded by RESPECT, you can only give RESPECT BACK.
When I write like this and reflect with WORDS like "MEN LIKE ****ES"...it kinda turns me off...GET IT...is it turning you off now, if it does not, you do not know the secret to a PEACEFUL LIFE.
LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL.
M.
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Posted: 7/22/2009 5:20:33 AM | | is that one of those advice books to tell you how to act in a relationship. cause i find most of those books are total bullshit and will not work for your situation. it just ends up trying to turn you into someone else when the person who is right for you would only love you if you are 100% genuine to yourself. thats just my opinion anyway. i never read the book but by other peoples posts it looks similar to a book like how to be a bad boy for men. women dont really want an ***hole, they just want a confident guy that doesnt take shit from anybody, you can be that and nice too. : ) | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 7/26/2009 7:54:56 AM | | Because men love a challenge, they want to chase you. You chasing them turns them off | |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 8:02:03 AM | I haven't read the book but this was my rebuttal in a previous post "Why do women want bad boys?"
I am a nice quiet, reserved woman. Sometimes I gripe about this or that cause I don't want to be walked on.
But in my experience the biotches have it! Men do EVERYTHING they ask, like whipped dogs. They give them entire paychecks, I've seen some don't have to work, they have nice homes, everything.
Everything I have I worked for and I do it all myself. Men don't do nothing for me.
Well. everyday I now thank the older guy who helped me when I got stuck. Construction debris shredded my tire yesterday. But we're talking about men who want nasty women for keeps, not really good samaritans. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 8:14:43 AM | I don't care for the title of your thread, OP; and I don't care for ****es much, either. Now, I do like a woman who is confident and intelligent. But, if her attitude belongs on a leash, then she'll only be treated as such.
No, thanks.
sexynygal on 7/26/2009 10:54:56 AM
Because men love a challenge, they want to chase you. You chasing them turns them off
We love challenges, but not marathons. Work is work: and if being with one woman takes too much work, we soon realize that there are plenty of fish (no pun intended). Besides, don't you know that too much work makes "Jack" a dull boy?
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