canali
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Joined: 4/11/2006
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 7/25/2006 12:20:03 PM | yeah, whatever....another book proselytizing the so-called ultra independent babe (yawn  )...if that's the case, why are so many on here looking for romance....so before you get your flame throwers out ladies, here's my take (as already expressed ad nauseum): we all want and need intimacy (that's right NEED, and let's stop BSing ourselves that we only want it but not need it...whatever!)...and the sooner we face up to that fact and stop engaging in so many activities as a filler for such, we (both genders) will all be happier....my ideal is being with a woman in which 3 elements are central: the I, the You and the WE/US.
I'm not saying you can't be independent but also intimate...we've drawn for too long an incorrect black or white approach to it...I have heard of some couples, for instance, in which they do live in separate homes and because of such have been able to maintain a wonderfully intimate relationship...when they move in together all hell breaks loose....'tis in the gray zones of life that I think we must look a little more closely for our answers, too.
Now I have NOT read the book, so if I've incorrectly/hastily assessedthe premise, excuse me
but with a title like that, (yawn!).
IF our friends, families and pets were able to provide the kind of unique intimacy that a loving one-one relationship provided, then great, we'd all be happy; and while those types of TLC are important and fulfilling, we all know deep inside that they're not the ultimate type of intimacy that we really all desire and truly reaches us so deeply inside. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 12:50:16 PM | yeah well to be honest, I think if you haven't read the book...then you shouldn't make
comments about it. The title is sensational for a reason. She wants to sell books.
She isn't advocating being an ultra independant 'mad at the world' type of b*tch.
Its about NOT being a doormat but making yourself attractive to the opposite sex
because your opinion is of value and you are interesting and have a life. Would you
rather have a feisty woman or one that follows you around like a puppy dog hanging
on your every word waiting for any crumbs that fall her way? She used the word b*tch,
much like all the men on here seem to think that women like jerks as opposed to nice guys
when really its self confidence that people find attractive...NOT being mean and unfeeling.
But hey, those of us that read the book can talk till we are blue in the face, you will
all have your preconceived notions. Meh. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 1:43:17 PM | I guess its like the blue balls thread and
some people will just never get it
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lol
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| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 7/25/2006 1:53:53 PM | because they keep their ankles and other certain parts warm;
oh, I thought you said britches.....sorry.... | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 2:09:49 PM | [Would you
rather have a feisty woman or one that follows you around like a puppy dog hanging
on your every word waiting for any crumbs that fall her way? She used the word b*tch,
much like all the men on here seem to think that women like jerks as opposed to nice guys]
Unfortunate as it is most people seem to think in extremes and not a common ground.
I would prefer an equal without grudges or low self esteem someone with a sparkle in their eyes ready to enough life for all that it is. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 2:13:06 PM | | This book is a MUST read for every woman!!!! I loved the book, and there is a new one out called 'why men marry ****es" Ladies, you have to read these, I gaurentee you will deal with the male population in a whole different way! | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 2:13:55 PM | Re Post 57/58
Exactly. . . Well Said!
I saw that book. Did you read it? Is it just a re-hash of the original? | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 2:16:38 PM | happyinvic....actually you cut the sentence before that one which said:
"Its about NOT being a doormat but making yourself attractive to the opposite sex
because your opinion is of value and you are interesting and have a life."
Isn't that someone who is your equal? Not extreme and overbearing at all. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 2:53:06 PM | | Men don't love ****es,they just like them for a good time. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 3:35:56 PM | Wow ... now I realize some men neither read profiles OR O.P.s OR these posts. Hmmm. Wouldn't do any good for them to read the book. BTW, it is very funny and we've all been there at one time or another ... probably some of the guys out there too!
happy cruisin'
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wurl
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Joined: 7/2/2006
Msg: 62 | |
| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 7/25/2006 4:27:50 PM | This is a hilarious thread.
Of course BITCES are usually above average attractive women. lol and fat women are Jolie!? hehehe Maybe biology really is destiny!
Look up the fair exchange theory which is a study that suggests that we all look for a fair exchange in beauty. A beautiful women has a lot of social power in this brave new world where we all know where we stand without any naivete. Decidedly unromantic, but the loss of such naive charm is the price we pay for the liberal culture we live in.
Just be carefull you don't just pretend to be particularly attractive and price yourself outside of the market.
For the men, .... beware the trophy wife type lady that is attracted to you only as a provider and/or mistakens her affection for you (which you bought) as attraction.
If he/she is not sexually attracted to you (chemistry) no self help book on how to have the attitude and confidance of beauty will change your appearance. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 5:25:40 PM | yeah even without the book i kinda like beeches. women that are not afraid
tend to be more open. women that are tougher tend to make u be proud
of them when they put a rude a*** down when we are out. the smile of a
confident woman makes me proud that she has chosen me. yep
give me a woman strong
not wrong about her nature
her self worth from birth
that can smile awhile
with love in her heart
no tart for me
she will be happy
not sappy and looking for power
she is into herself
herself filled with power
she doesnt mind it at all
when others say shes wrong
so ill say it one more time
give me a woman strong | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 6:18:24 PM | Hey Wurl;
I didn't think anyone dared talk like that around here! Yes, we each have a market-value in this mating/dating "GAME" | |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 11:58:59 PM | OP...as to your last question: YES..I did change how I behaved when dating after reading the book....it's made a huge difference. I was already making changes in how I dealt with men...the book offered reinforcement and it was quite lighthearted...I don't care what anyone who has not read it thinks...if only everyone understood so much about themselves and the opposite sex....would there be so many bitter threads on here? I am very straightforward...I'm not afraid to say that I don't really understand men on the level I would like to...I find it hard to think like a man...leads to a lot of misinterpretation, and I don't want to gain an understanding of men, if the price is losing my femininity.. I enjoyed the book!
give me a woman strong
not wrong about her nature
her self worth from birth
that can smile awhile
with love in her heart
no tart for me
she will be happy
not sappy and looking for power
she is into herself
herself filled with power
she doesnt mind it at all
when others say shes wrong
so ill say it one more time
give me a woman strong
Thats awesome!!!  | |
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Tayven
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Joined: 11/11/2004
Msg: 66 | |
| Why Men Love Bitches
Posted: 7/26/2006 12:06:51 AM | WHY...?
Because they tell it like it is...!
No matter how much we hate being told the truth, deep inside... we love hearing it. And if you don't, well... good luck getting around it.
Tayven | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 1:06:12 AM | | OK, now I have to go to Chapters tomorrow and thumb through this book. This thread has got me curious now. I will be sure to hide in dark a corner while reading through it, as I may scare off any future prospects. I seem to recall reading msg 31, where he says he would not approach a lady reading this book...However, by the time I am done reading through it, I really shouldn't give a shyt what a guy thinks should I....he,he! | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 1:13:50 AM | B.I.T.C.H. Babe In Total Control Of Herself... Great book....about being in control of your life and yourself
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Very interesting.
Lets do a few comparisons
In control
- Me and a gf are going to a show tonight hun. Wanna come along?
Uncontroled
- I don't care if you were going to the big game tonight. I've booked seats for us at the fancy resturnat and jills bringing her new bf. You HAVE to be there or I can never face my friends again
In control
- Is there fuel in the tank and does this thing come with a repair manual
Uncontrolled
- Why doncha sell it an get a decent car
- Hurry up. We'll be late
In control
- If I have a boyfriend who doesn't really know the sensitive spots I just hop on top so I can manouver my sensitive spots over him.
Uncontrolled
- Men are hopeless lovers only ever thinking of themselves. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 4:56:20 AM | OK just another example of how things get twisted. Its said in control of Herself
NOT anyone else , as the above post shows.
It's about NOT being needy or nagging.
It's about investing in yourself as a woman, using your brain and becoming financially
independant. Keeping your sense of humour and having faith in yourself as a woman.
Then you become a prize worth having from a man's point of view. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 6:13:47 AM |
it seems to me that if a person needs to read a book to learn how to respect themselves, then they'll really never know how.
Yeee haw! Bang on assessment.
I've always found the babe in total control of herself thing to de-emphasize the word ****... and yes, I'm sorry, that's what it does.. along with making the user of said word/phrase to describe herself seem.. well.. lame...
****es are unenjoyable and nasty to be around. May even cause uclers in the men and women who have to be around them. They are not GOOD people.
Women who do their thing, get what they want and generally live their lives and careers in similar ways to how the successful men do.. are not ****es.. anymore than the men are ***holes. These people may not take any $hit, may have lots of opinions, etc... but last I checked.. this was a good thing. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 6:40:45 AM | | In this book the word B.I.T.C.H. is a play on words...sort of an anacronym. This thread is about the book....not about being a b*tch( traditionally, a negative thing)....guess a lot of people don't read! The OP asked: "who has read the book?, and what did we think?" | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 6:53:57 AM | OK look....everyone is getting hung up on the word so this is a direct quote from the introduction to this book :
Why Men Love B*tches is a relationship guide for women who are "too nice". The word b*tch in the title does not take itself too seriously - I am using the word in a tongue-in-cheek way representative of the humorous tone of this book
The title and the content address what many women think, but don't say. Every woman has felt embarrased by appearing too needy with a man. Every woman has had a man pursue her, only to lose interest the minute she gave in. Every woman knows what it feels like to be taken for granted. These problems are common to most women, married and single alike.
So why do men love b*tches? An important distinction should be made between the pejorative way the word is usually used and the way it is used here. Certainly, I'm not recommending that a woman have an abrasive disposition. The b*tch I'm talking about is not the "b*tch on wheels" or the mean-spirited character that Joan Collins played on Dynasty. Nor is it the classis "office b*tch" who is hated by everyone at work.
The woman I am describing is kind yet strong. She has a strength that is ever so subtle. She doesn't give up her life, and she won't chase a man. She won't let a man think he has a 100 per cent "hold" on her. And she'll stand up for herself when he steps over the line.
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Posted: 7/26/2006 7:41:08 AM | Good for you Squirrly -- Right on^^^^^^^^
I read this book last year and it is a book I come back to any time I need to re-focus.
I highly recommend it, not only what every woman needs to know in the romance department, but to every other aspect of her life.
I am proud to be a real WOMAN! | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 7:45:25 AM | OP
squirry
give up sweety...
some people will just never get it !!!
The posts on this thread are hilarious... as to how people
see a b!tch and being in control of HERSELF.
OP you are one of the wise ones:)
and a true B!tch.
(hugs)
but some people will just never get it.
Topics like this are good for dates... as to be able to sort
out the undateable and closed minded... and drop them fast | |
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Posted: 7/26/2006 9:09:21 AM | I thought squirry started this thread?
so where is the OP then?
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