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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/26/2006 11:00:54 AM | | MSG 77 (rainbowfissh) nope, I started this thread, I've enjoyed reading the replies also!! lol but I have to say that you really gave me the best info on it! | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/26/2006 11:30:39 AM | Hence the name TGR ( the great rainbowfishh)
( see other thread ) this name was given to me. I like it too.
On topic: Good book... all women who are dating should read it... some good points and so funny. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/26/2006 2:46:27 PM | | Well I just read most of the first page and then a few comments on this last page. Don't go bombarding me with stuff now lol, just explaining my view from the "title". I personally don't like b*tches. I'm a nice, caring guy who likes a girl that can mutually agree with me on certain matters. If a girl is stuck-up, I don't want to deal with her. Simple as that. I don't need to argue with someone on some trivial stuff, y'know? Just a simple relationship, and I'm good. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/26/2006 2:48:10 PM | OK I officially give up on explaining what this book is about. You are so right rainbowfish. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/26/2006 3:09:54 PM | Unquestionably, one of the best threads I have seen yet on this forum.
It's actually two threads in one.
One thread being people who read the title then took the time to understand what the book is about via Squirrly and RainbowFish's posts.
The other thread being people who read the title and nothing else.
Neat trick. Colin | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 1:04:45 AM | | women ware not ****es if they know what they want... so many people misunderstand confident women x | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 1:15:26 AM | | For some reason ****es turn me on. Nice girls dont as much. Go figure. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 5:10:46 AM | rainbowfish (msg21) I havn't read the book, but i sought of have with all this input.......I must admit, yes, yo and behold I AM A ****! and proud of it!  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 7:06:40 AM | You know, I would think some women would get a clue.
Let's see. Here we have clearly shown what most of us think when hearing the word "b¡tch". The outright, visceral rejection of it and anything having to do with it.
They complain about men not reading it, nor going past the title. Well, what men would spend his money in a book dealing with something we despise? OF COURSE we don't want to read it! Moreover, a woman who reads it is a big red flag to us! Let me ask you: Would you buy a book entitled "Why women love wife beaters"? I don't think so. More so, you would be outraged and probably would hold suspect any man who reads it.
But those women embrace thhe word b¡tch. They invent their personalities around it. They bask on it. And those same women ask themselves: "I'm a ****, and proud of it. Why men can't see how attractive I am"?
But hey, it's not like we men know what's good for us anyway. We need a b¡tch to tell us. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 7:10:00 AM | who says we all go around calling ourselves b*tches and being proud of it? Its a joke!
It's a BOOK for goodness sakes and the author said the title was tongue in cheek. In no way is it similar to wife beater...unless she called it husband beater. Some people just need to lighten up. sheesh. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 7:14:33 AM | guess if there werent so many basturds women would not have to learn to be a b.abe i.n t.otal c.ontrol of h.erself....... or a b!tch.
which is what the book teaches women to do... not to live in the shadow of a man and be all she can be. It is rather empowering and helps women avoid men who do not love her... want to use her and waste her time.... all the basturd stuff... so she can remain emotionally healthy. Nothing wrong with that... unless the guy is a basturd wanting to use, abuse her and mess with her life, time and head. Someones gonna cry.. might as well he him as I see it.
Its fortunate and a good thing when a woman gains total control over heself... she becomes whole and can spot the basturds quickly... if one happens to slip by and into her life... the tools taught in the book... will send him reeling looking for a woman with no control over herself, her life and has littl self esteem.
This is all a good thing... as pain and suffering makes people stronger... or kills them... it all balances out and people end up choosing exactly what they deserve or in some cases need ( a lesson ).
I will be in control of myself, my life and true to myself... no matter if I have a man or not. Everyone has that choice.... and you can only ask for what you have to offer... so if your a man with no control over himself, no control over your life... stick with your own kind... :) or you may get hurt... cuz whole, responsible and loving women have no use for turds.
ignorance is not always bliss... lol
hey squirl, I told you some will never get it :) lol juliette, you may enjoy the book ( really funny), get it and read it. it costs less than 15 dollars. Has a great recipe for dipping sauces... lol and tells about pink slips !!!... you have gotten a few (according to your threads)... so maybe this book is something for you?
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 7:23:31 AM | Who says? For starters, the message above my previous one. And that's only in this page.
About similarities...let's see. A wife beater beats his wife physically. A **** beats her husband emotionally.
I'd say they're very similar.
Anyway, if what you call "****" is not what we call "****", why don't you find a less offensive word for it? The fact is that you KNOW we hate it. And that's the very reason many women use it. And to do something specifically to be offensive, or to assert their right to be offensive, is never attractive. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 7:28:01 AM | who is trying to be attractive?
women reading this book are not reading a beauty book they are reading a book to help them live better lives !
not get a new hairdo ! | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 7:30:09 AM | ok this is really like banging my head against a brick wall. I don't call myself a b*tch or even aspire to being one. I did however enjoy the humourous book that I read which had B*tch in the title. The author used the word to show how women shouldn't be doormats much like the "nice" guy thing we are always hearing about but to take charge of your life and become someone that no one would walk on but rather have a healthy respect for.
Please read the previous posts about how the author used this word instead of a having a visceral response and rather use your reasoning and observation skills. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 7:41:31 AM | This looks like a really good thread but I have to finish cutting the front lawn so I'm leaving a post so that the thread will be on my thread list and I'm hot and tired but the Mrs. is home as it is Saturday so I have little choice so ............ | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 8:38:30 AM | | For me, I stayed away from girls who look like a **** and behave like a ****. Career wise, it is not smart to be close to them. ****es are mostly selfish and destructive (I think). my 2 cents. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 8:53:47 AM | I checked this book out from the library a while ago.
It's probably the worst advice about dating I've ever read. This book basically says to play games and be manipulative and to assume all men are pretty much the same. And it violates the "Golden Rule", where people should treat others the way they want to be treated.
This book supports the high school mentality about dating. And I left high school a long time ago. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 8:56:20 AM | yeah i cant stand girls that are low lives, i really cant stand it. I dont go for any girl like that, thats for sure, but so many poor souls out there would and keep chasing after her as shes treating them like utter crap. No way man, no way.
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 9:30:38 AM | TheSunshineGirl....Thank you sooooooo much. I was beginning to lose faith.
Tongue in cheek....a joke.....whatever. It's still self destructive. Who wants to live life feeling like any one (let alone an entire gender) thinks they're a b!tch??? A better question yet would be; who the hell would be proud to be such a thing???
Yes, I understand that this is a fad for the liberal woman. I also understand the very basic psychology behind it i.e. "If you can't beat them (those that call us b!tches), join them (and call ourselves b!tches). Yes, I understand that some think this is clever and/or funny. I understand all that is supposed to be understood by this mockery of what it truly means to be a "real" woman.
I sincerely hate arguing with women, but this tends to be a popular trend amongst woman, and particularly single women. I only wish I could discover a way in which to explain to all of you who believe this garbage how counterproductive it is....how it's destroying the chances at the happiness you say you seek.....how it's destroying the chances at a quality relationship with a man because you're being taught to resist even the most natural of urges......how the by-product of this liberal attitude is destroying family values and the way our children are learning to deal with the world. Ugh....just seeing what I've seen so far makes me ill. I could literally vomit when thinking about what the future holds.
I suppose what makes me the most sick over this is the direct parallels that can be drawn between this and the other disgusting "ism" in society today, racism. People don't want equality. They want pay back. It's just too bad that generations upon generations have to suffer because the descendents of those who were truly oppressed weren't taught the difference between past and present, or how two wrongs don't make a right.
I may be single for a loooooong time, but I'll remain that way gladly before getting involved with a b!tch or anyone that even considers it to be a good thing to be a b!tch. Tongue in cheek or not.
To end this, my apologies to the ladies who believe this is a good thing. I'm certainly not trying to trample on your rights or your opinions. I'm just trying to point out something that I think is being completely ignored. I know I'll come under fire for this, so I really expect my participation in this thread to be very limited. Like I said, I sincerely hate arguing with women. Particularly over this topic. I only end up being called a sexist when I know nothing is further from the truth.
So, without further ado.....flame away.  | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 9:37:55 AM | Sunshine Girl has the most sensible post from a woman in this thread.
Why would anyone shell out disposable income to buy a book with a nonsensical title espousing simplistic advice. You buy this book, you wasted your money, it was manipulated out of your wallet by the author.
Hell if any woman had common sense, she wouldn't allow anyone, man or woman, to walk over her. Save your money and use your brain when it comes to interacting with other people. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 12:27:45 PM | Most of these relationship books are farces. I already commented on my issues with co-opting negative names/words like B*tch and using them as positives or as tongue in cheek-isms to generate sales of whatever fluff someone has written.
The only "rules" I adhere to are of my own design and they are less complex, high-school-ish and manipulative than any advice booklet could ever be. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 1:00:34 PM |
The only "rules" I adhere to are of my own design
and THAT is exactly what the book is saying. It is very much about playing by your own rules.
Now when it comes to whether its teaching manipulation to women. Hmm well it does say that jumping to bed straight away is not a good idea in general. Go figure?
It exposes a lot about how men in general think. For instance, when a man tells you he is interested in a long-term relationship he may just want sex with no strings attached. I have a male friend who just told me this two days ago. He has been telling me for months that hes looking to get married and settle down and have kids.
SO he meets this girl last week and says to me...DAMN she is HOT. So I said, "great looks like you have a new girlfriend". And he said..."well no. She has a hot body but her face isnt that attractive so she wont be my next girlfriend". And then he goes on to say that she told him, she doesnt want to be just a FB and that she will only make love with someone who sees her as a potential wife. So what does he do? He lies and tells her he does. He tells me, he will eventually tell her but for now hes enjoying the sex.
See, so some men play games and some women fall into the trap so easily. The book talks about those kinds of things and how women can stop the cycle. etc. ( side note...YES I know women play games too...this is a book aimed at women)
Its not a bible..its not something that we are all reading and following step by step. Its an interesting read into the male perspective and how to handle it. So that he still has respect for you. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 1:09:53 PM | Is this book written by a man or a woman???
Either or, it's impossible to ay that this is the mans perspective. Common, maybe, but this is the problem. A lot of women will read this trash and use it against guys who are undeserving.
As I said, it's self destructive. Unless, that is, you aren't interested in a long lasting, quality relationship........as equals. | |
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| Why Men Love Bitches Posted: 7/29/2006 1:22:36 PM | Unfortunately the mating dance can be fraught with missteps.
Nothing wrong with reading something which gives you some insight into the dance.
This is a quote from the book: "Truly powerful people don't explain why they want respect. They simply don't engage someone who doesn't give it to them." Is that such a bad thing? | |
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