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 AdamantEthos

Joined: 11/11/2003
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Does True love Exist?
Posted: 12/18/2004 10:58:31 AM
Hi,

I dream that true love does exist. But I don't know. I look for a girl who is attractive, somewhat intelligent, funny, caring, and patient with a guy who works hard at his work and at his studies.

Sometimes I think I'll be single for quite a while and my chance to have children will pass me by. Though I'm a single 28 year old guy, so I guess I'm still somewhat young lol.
 lml4s

Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 52
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Posted: 12/31/2004 6:03:21 PM
It exists everywhere people make it happen. It sounds like your marriage didn't have it. The best thing to do now is bring your past forward, combine it with some overtly sexual behavior found online, and question whether mankind has lost its way.
 oldsarge

Joined: 12/30/2004
Msg: 53
Does True love Exist?
Posted: 12/31/2004 6:47:29 PM
What is Love?

“ Five feet of heaven and a pony tail. The cutest pony tail that sways with a wiggle when she walks.” Ok. You know where my socialization process started.

Leo Buscaglia (my favorite author on the subject of Love) asks us to consider the following.

"I believe that Love is a learned phenomenon.

Each of us lives Love in our limited fashion. We do not seem to relate the resultant confusion and loneliness to our lack of knowledge about Love. Most of us continue to behave as though Love is not learned but lies dormant in each being and simply awaits some mystical age of awareness to emerge in full bloom. Many wait for this age forever.

If you wanted to become an auto mechanic, you would study diligently about automobiles.
If you wanted to become a gourmet cook you would study the art of cooking and perhaps attend a cooking class.
Yet, it never seems as obvious to us that if we want to live in Love, we must spend at least as much time as the mechanic or the cook in studying Love. No mechanic or cook would ever believe that by “willing” the knowledge in the field, they’d ever become experts in it.

There are those who will dismiss Love as a naïve and romantic construct of our culture. Others will wax poetic and say “Love is all,” “Love is the birdcall and the glint in a lover’s eye on a warm summer night.” Some will be dogmatic and say that “God is Love.” And some according to their own unique experience , will say that “Love is a strong, emotional attachment to another…” etc.

You may find that some people have never thought of questioning Love, much less defining it, and object, violently even, to the suggestion that they think about it. To them Love is not to be pondered, it is simply to be experienced.

I believe it is true, to some degree, that all of these statements are correct, but to assume that any one is best or all there is to Love, is rather too simplistic.

Consider the following premises:

“One cannot give what one does not possess.
To give Love you must possess Love.”

“One cannot teach what one does not understand.
To teach Love you must comprehend Love.”

“One cannot know what one does not study.
To study Love you must live in Love.”

“One cannot appreciate what one does not recognize.
To recognize Love you must be receptive to Love.”

“One cannot have doubt about that which one wishes to trust.
To trust Love you must be convinced of Love.”

“One cannot admit what one does not yield to.
To yield to Love you must be vulnerable to Love.”

“One cannot live what one does not dedicate oneself to.
To dedicate yourself to Love you must be forever growing in Love.”
"


What is Love? Love is an energy extension of Beauty. It is an almost automatic emotional (emotions are powerful energy transmitters) response to things that we perceive as beautiful. Truly, each of us has our own ideas about what is beautiful, yet the characteristics we ascribe to them are very similar.

It doesn’t really matter about specific characteristics, what does matter is that we focus on those characteristics to the extent that we begin to feel that euphoric attraction to the object of our attention. We began to feel Love for that beautiful rock, or tree, or animal or person. Expanding on this feeling (and getting very vulnerable here) we begin to give and receive Love Energy through our focus. We connect in a way that is almost orgasmic.
A connection of the Spirit and through this connection a conduit opens to the Universal Source. “Whenever two or more of you are gathered in my name, there will I be also.” (Sorry, I like to be legitimized! )

We give Love with no thought of receiving even as we realize that others may still be learning and that this, too, is wonderful. We focus on their Beauty and awaken them to their own self worth even if they move away from us. This is True Love.
 IM_WORTH_IT

Joined: 12/27/2004
Msg: 54
Does True love Exist?
Posted: 12/31/2004 8:51:42 PM
Of course true love exists - you cannot universalize all men based upon your past choice patterns of selective mates - or your past experiences.

There actually are good men out there - I'm one - you'll never know if I'm sincere unless you've actually had a relationship with me - but just give me the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Now most women are inclined to go for "ALPHA" males. These are men that have the following characteristics:

#1 HANDSOME (Pleasing to the eye)
#2 AMBITIOUS (Wants the biggest and best)
#3 AGGRESSIVE (Forceful and unyielding in what he wants)

Now these traits - and the inbuilt desire for MOST women to obtain them in a mate - are genetically programmed attributes developed in prehistory to allow our ancestors to survive and propagate in a harsh primitive world.In prehistory - it was necessary for the alpha male to have a ''harem" of females to insure not only the best qaulity of offspring - but THE MOST offspring possible through each gestational and generational cycle - which insured the survivability of the group.The alpha male hoarded nearly ALL of the females - and less subordinate males had fewer mating opportunities.In order to insure the survival of the group - the alpha male could NOT possess the following attributes:

#1 MONOGAMY (Having only one mate).
#2 PASSIVENESS (The willingness to calmly yield)
#3 CONCESSION (The willingness to readily settle for second best)

If he had possessed these attributes - mankind would have become extinct in it's infancy - hence:
WOMEN ARE PROGRAMMED TO GO FOR THE JERKS - case closed.

Now - ironically - it was the BETA MALES (Prehistoric nerds,geeks,scrubs,and homely guys)
who possessed the qaulities that the females did NOT respond to favorably - these were
MONOGAMY,PASSIVENESS,AND CONCESSION.

The alpha male has always had more opportunities to mate than beta males - hence - there are FAR MORE OF THEM! Because most women screw themselves in their mate choices - they automatically assume the fault lies commonly with ALL MALES.

These are today's ALPHA male archtypes:
#1 Rich or well to do handsome dudes,
#2 "Bad Boys"
#3 "Sports Heroes"
#4 "Players or Play Boys"

These are today's BETA male archtypes:
#1 Nerds / Geeks / Dorks / Trekkies
#2 Ughly Guys
#3 Sqaure Guys
#4 Poor Guys / Un-Employed Guys/Guys who still live with mom and/or dad.

Women tend to complain that they do not possess that which they pathologically and habitually reject - thus - they either become nuerotic messes,lesbians,or cynics.

FINAL CONCLUSION - YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND TRUE LOVE UNTIL YOU SNAP OUT OF YOUR SHIT!!! - arguement concluded...
 Mizbehavin

Joined: 12/28/2004
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Posted: 1/1/2005 12:04:06 PM
I do believe true love does exist, but define your idea of true love, sometimes we think one thing and really need and want another. Just don't have to high of expectations, and just don't base your wants and needs around your past relationship, learn from it and move on, but really sit down and wonder what true love means to you.
Maybe its having someone around that knows what you need before you say anything, someone who you can sense before they walk in the room, maybe true love is the best friend ....decide and let things take its course, it will find you....
 suzy2004

Joined: 2/3/2004
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Posted: 1/1/2005 1:42:00 PM
I do believe it does exist. Although, nothing does last forever, I believe in making the best of everyday with the person you are with. I have had my true love, and even if you are no longer together, a peice of you stays with them.
 buzzzbom

Joined: 12/29/2004
Msg: 57
Does True love Exist?
Posted: 1/1/2005 3:46:47 PM
tru love exists, sometimes it fades away w/out any one noticing. tru love does not necesarily mean forever... it is what it is . no matter what , people are less than perfect, if expected to be perfect, we will all fail. the only thing (in my humble opinion) to do with tru love is to accept it for what it is, and not to put it on a pedestal. buzzzbom
 buzzzbom

Joined: 12/29/2004
Msg: 58
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Posted: 1/1/2005 3:51:11 PM
p.s. susy2004 said it better than I did
 RavenEStone

Joined: 12/29/2004
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Posted: 1/1/2005 3:56:00 PM
Oh Buzz I have to say that I disagree....
Love has a tendency to sneak up behing you, totally rearrange you're life and moves you to make changes you never thought you could make. Once you are hit with this sometimes devistating impact... you are changed... moved beyond words and you couldn't forget it if you tried.
 suzy2004

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Posted: 11/30/2006 8:30:05 AM
Perhaps thats true, but what a great ride while it lasts. I have loved and been hurt, sometimes more than I could bare, but I would do it again, to have had the experience of love. So, I still believe that True love does exist, perhaps it does not last forever but it does exist.
AND YES, I still believe in Santa..lol
 Redheadgidget

Joined: 11/3/2005
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Posted: 11/30/2006 8:38:52 AM
And, yet, another person actually does a 'search' on a topic rather than creating a whole new thread.

Look at Harry and Sally, Princess Leia and Hans Solo, etc. If they can find true love, by gosh, so can any of us. They're just regular folks.

My friends try to tell me those are only movie characters, not real life. After I give em the 'how dare you' look, I goes ta rantin' and ravin' till they finally admit I'm right.

True love... yes, yep, sure as shootin it exists. But.. it takes what the words in the song 'Walk The Line' state.
 hb2brunette

Joined: 9/20/2006
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Posted: 11/30/2006 8:53:25 AM
Posted By: pezmanw1 on 7/27/2004 3:01:54 AM
"Message: yes true love exist, it starts with once upon a time "

I read a lot of fairy tales as a child and most of them are based on truth!. usually with a high moral in attendance........ unfortunately for most their morals are not what they should be. I def believe it now I have experienced it and will not settle for anything less ever again.
 GardenPeanut

Joined: 11/16/2006
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Re: Does True love Exist?
Posted: 2/11/2007 8:11:31 PM
True love does exist but it dies when you get to know the person. It was the third adultery ordeal for true love to die in your case. It destroyed your marriage.
There will be someone who will think he is her kindred spirit baloney mate. She will talk like she is living a fairy tale. Act like a 4 year old at 50..you know the types. If they end up married...he will commit adultery and she will switch religion or invent another one to find true love again. What a nutty world.
 sebatian7

Joined: 11/8/2006
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Posted: 2/11/2007 8:19:21 PM
True love does exists!!! Usually love happens when you are not looking.
 tmbmx

Joined: 2/27/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2007 9:42:05 PM
YES IT DOES. It took me 3 years after my divorce to find it but it was worth the wait. I did find true love on the internet. I found someone who live 2 mile from my house I might not have ever meet if it were not for being on line. Now to keep it you have to be willing to work at it. Love is like a garden that always need tending. If both people are willing to work at it it will last forever.
 rhondalicious

Joined: 6/23/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2007 9:58:30 PM
I do not believe those "fairy tale" romances exist anymore, for some reason now days its hard to keep someone true to another, seems like it was alot easier back when my parents were dating, too much temptation out there and although the internet is the new age way of dating and meeting people, I have also seen it destroy alot or marriages and families....I do believe that everyone has that "one" out there, just gotta kick back and wait for it to happen. Relationships/marriages take alot of work this day and age. but I do believe true love exist, some of us just havent found our soulmate yet
 classy_lady99

Joined: 4/5/2006
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Posted: 2/11/2007 10:10:21 PM
Yes - True love exists! It might take brief pauses in our lifetimes - but I know it exists.
So keep your eyes and ears wide open because sometimes we are so wrapped up within ourselves that we don't even see it for what it really is!
 Leana76

Joined: 1/27/2007
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Posted: 2/12/2007 3:34:24 AM
I believe true love is out there for everyone. I think I have one too, but I haven't met him yet. But I've been talking to him for almost a week now. He seems very, very sweet....Who knows, you know? He may BE the ONE...
 R_U_Perfect

Joined: 1/14/2007
Msg: 69
Does True love Exist?
Posted: 2/12/2007 3:50:24 AM
YES, TRUE LOVE DOSE EXIST!!!

BUt is a gift From The Lord and we have to work very hard all of our lives to keep it from being stolen from us...
 USDA White Angus

Joined: 1/27/2007
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Posted: 2/12/2007 5:54:12 AM
I think it does...the trick is to find a mate that has the same feelings as you do, and is ready to progress at the same rate. Timing is everything!
 NSWiseAcre

Joined: 1/16/2007
Msg: 71
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Posted: 2/12/2007 6:02:06 AM
True love is an action, not a feeling. Peopel get caught up in the emotion , which they equate to being " in love". true love is the way in which you treat and react to the person who is the object of your desire. if you treat them like crap, talk down to them or about them, is that "true love"?

People don't really know what LOVE is.
 Artistee

Joined: 7/24/2006
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Posted: 2/12/2007 8:25:17 PM
The answer to this question depends upon whom you ask...simple math...

My views on love and relationships are extremely jaded, so I'd respond in the negative...

But I'm only one opinion...Thank God!
 hb2brunette

Joined: 9/20/2006
Msg: 73
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Posted: 2/13/2007 8:21:25 AM
Posted By: soulwhispers

"Love has a tendency to sneak up behing you, totally rearrange you're life and moves you to make changes you never thought you could make. Once you are hit with this sometimes devistating impact... you are changed... moved beyond words and you couldn't forget it if you tried. "

I so agree with your comment. It's like being in a hurricaine. One minute you are in the eye of the storm and then next you are hurtling around like a whirlygig.
 Leslie27

Joined: 1/31/2007
Msg: 74
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Posted: 2/17/2007 9:44:09 PM
Of course true love exist. With your family!! Especially your children!!! The other kinds of love like that of a significant other is questionable to me. True love can be your highschool sweetheart who you still think of everyday. Or it can be your ex who hurt you so bad that you feel your heart will never heal. It is a great feeling..but like the comment above me. It either can fill your heart with joy and bliss; or smash it into a million pieces. Scary stuff.
 will101

Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 75
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Posted: 2/17/2007 9:48:13 PM
We have evolved in the past few decades,but the idea of true love and romance are as alive today as they ever were in the past.

I would say..Hold out for what you want and need!!!
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