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 Lord Dave

Joined: 11/25/2005
Msg: 38
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 5:12:59 PM
Ah, but can we trust the prophets? I've known a good many people who were very good at conning others.
 JacksSmerkingRevenge

Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 39
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 6:17:05 PM
^^^^

Or enough people believe they do, anyway.

People can figure out some pretty weird things about life, write them down and have millions of the people believe 'it's the way', but that doesn't mean these people weren't flawed like everyone else.
 CountIbli

Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 40
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How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 6:58:49 PM
I have a little experience with this since I was a Christian and am now an Atheist. For the most part my morals didn't change. What did change I think was positive in nature. I no longer viewed women as second class citizens. I no longer thought gays should be persecuted. I no longer thought that it was okay to kill non-Christians (as a Christian I had no moral problems with the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Salem Witch Trials, people who kill doctors who perform abortions, etc.) because of their religion. I no longer thought that only Christians should be allowed to hold public office. I came to view sex outside of marriage as normal and healthy.
 Lord Dave

Joined: 11/25/2005
Msg: 41
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 7:26:16 PM

are they that cunning? look at their way of life and you'll know if they can be trusted or not...a prophet lives a very strick life of devotion, thats why they were recognized as prophets.

I take it you were there witnessing their life style then?

And yes, I am that cunning. Thank you for noticing.
 JacksSmerkingRevenge

Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 42
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 7:28:38 PM
A toast to cunningness!
Cheers!
 CapnPunchy

Joined: 7/31/2006
Msg: 43
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 7:33:19 PM
Being atheist doesn't mean you have no conscience or code of ethics to regulate your behavior. It seems a little sad that people need some kind of authority figure to "make" them do right under pain of punishment in Hell. Or Walmart.

Personal responsibility. Live it, learn it, love it.

That's my opinion, for what it's worth.
 Lord Dave

Joined: 11/25/2005
Msg: 44
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 8:20:23 PM
No doubt. However just because someone did something great does not make them a prophet. Martin Luther King Jr. is not considered a prophet. George Washington is not considered a Prophet. Abraham Lincon is not considered a prophet.
Yet they all did great things did they not? They were all alot like moses in a way. Each one going in and writing what they felt was a wrong, and bringing their people out of opression. From the African American Rights movement to the independance from england and the end of slavery.
What makes them not prophets is because they weren't said to be motivated by God. And when a book(books) sole purpose is to explain god, I feel it's too biased for an accurate account of what happened.

Also I can't read hebrew.
 CapnPunchy

Joined: 7/31/2006
Msg: 45
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 8:33:51 PM
Is L. Ron Hubbard considered a prophet? I suppose he is. How did he get to be one?

Sorry, Dave's post got me wondering.
 madfidlr

Joined: 3/24/2006
Msg: 46
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/9/2006 9:03:21 PM
Oy... bubee...don't start reading the Prophets and the Torah in Hebrew

Could lead to Judaism...

*starts dancing Hora* Hava...nagila Hava...nagila Hava nagila venis'mecha!


In reference to the OP's question... for the most part, I draw my sense of morality from non-divine sources...at present I don't rule out the possibility of the divine. SO were I to become an atheist I guess my morality as such would generally remain unaffected. I firmly accept the court order as presented in the Simpsons to have meant that not only do religion and science have to stay 100 yards away from each other at all times, but that civil laws and morality are essentially humanistic constructs that can evolve and develop quite well outside the framework of spirituality.
 skypoetone

Joined: 3/24/2005
Msg: 47
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/10/2006 5:47:41 PM
"How would you change your life........."

Now I really WOULD turn left at Greenland, skip over Canada and nestle down in Minneapolis, Minnesota!
 Mr. Ivan

Joined: 3/13/2006
Msg: 48
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/12/2006 9:35:01 PM
Christians who say this just want an excuse to be bad. When they do something bad, they claim they were atheists then. When they start doing good, they say it was because they found God.
 balletdancer

Joined: 5/21/2006
Msg: 49
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/13/2006 12:52:10 PM
Christians mess up at times just like as everyone else does.
 balletdancer

Joined: 5/21/2006
Msg: 50
How would you change your life.........
Posted: 8/13/2006 2:04:53 PM
Some christians have really hard lives before they become christians and their faith has encouraged and helped them alot what is wrong with that, I thinkthat is a good thing that thier faith has helped them. Its given them moral guidance and support in their lives. I don,t like to think of anyone unhappy and if its helped good. It does not mean they are judgeing you because you think are a consciencious person and not a christian. No one is saying that. They are just grateful for the healing which they have recieved.
Most christians come from good backgrounds whre they have been brought up with chiristians values since they wre born and therefore becoming a christian has not had such an impact.
Their is no love like the love of God, God is always their and never lets us down people can they can be weak but not God. Reserch has shown that the happiest people are christians.
I guess we are grateful but not being a christian you would not understand what it means to us. Research has also shown that as much as an athiest does not believe a person with faith will believe people actually die for their faith.
At the end of the day God loves you whether you believe or not and he chose you to be born. God is real, you cannot see electricity but its their.
Did you know as well that hell is so bad that even the demons did not want to go their they asked Jesus to send them into the pigs, do you honestly want to take the risk of going to hell, you could get run over tommorrow, why take the risk. What do you have to lose but everything to gain. It makes more sense than being an athiest anyday.
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