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| | People who hate cats -- why?Page 6 of 9 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) | I have almost always had a cat or so. I find them fascinating. I agree in part with Abelian about their intelligence, I have not found that they are as intelligent as many dogs are, AT LEAST IN HUMAN RELATED TERMS. They are always CATS, never "little fuzzy people."
I have learned one very significant thing about measuring intelligence: it HAS to be measured with reference to the entities AGENDA, or you get an erroneous reading of it. Judging a cat according to whether or not their response to something fits in with what a human would do, is to mis-measure the cat.
I saw a particularly telling thing on TV way back when Justice Clarence Thomas was being queried by the Senate about his past dealings with a law clerk, who accused him of some rather vile behavior. The behavior doesn't matter for this. What was illuminating, was that after all the testimony was complete, the Senators came to the press, and their spokesman explained that they had decided that Clarence Thomas was the one being the most truthful, BECAUSE THE LAW CLERK HAD NOT REACTED AT THE TIME , THEY WAY THEY WOULD HAVE. That is, the very young, female, black law clerk had failed to respond to the powerful man who controlled her future employment opportunities, in the same way the a rich, white, sixty-year-old Senator would have responded.
Anyway, back to cats: I have one close friend who is TERRIFIED of cats, for a similar reason that Petunia doesn't relate well to them: she was attacked by some feral ones at a very young age, and never really got over it. I have met many people who think of ALL non human creatures as being more or less bits of moving furniture, and nothing more. Hence the annoyance that one fellow above expressed when a friend's cat went missing, and she did not find his offer to provide a quick replacement to be remotely acceptable.
I had a boss once, who joked about dropping large objects onto cats he saw down below, in hopes of killing them. I found him disgusting, and never trusted or wanted to work for his behalf again.
But I have not yet met anyone who I could say fit the description of a cat HATER. I actually have some sense of understanding that someone like that, however, because I hate certain insects (or rather I have an intense aversion to them, inexplicable by reason). I can not even imagine thinking of a snake as anything but a dangerously overgrown worm with teeth. I think it's almost instinctive. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/22/2011 9:34:39 PM | Lots of cat haters on this thread. Never realized so many people hated cats. I think cats are great. Why would anyone hate a cute little kitty cat?
Anyway, for those who need one, here is a reason to hate cats:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/magazine/09_10_catcoat.html | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 4:08:39 AM | # 1 -- to J-Moon: i think you've inadvertently given your cat an IQ test. Get back to me on whether he'll still crate himself, after even 1 trip in the crate led to a trip to the vet?
# 2 -- to B-Dog: O, m'God. That is some weird science. And cool. That toxo stuff is nothing to mess with. I wouldn't ever even knowingly eat a tomato grown near where a cat "goes."
http://www.toxoplasmosis.org/infotox.html
# 3 -- I love both dogs and cats. What would the world be like if overnight, dogs learned to climb, and cats tripled in size? | |
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Posted: 4/23/2011 4:23:40 AM | i fukkin hate cats and i will shoot them on sight everytime they show up here. this place is a no-cat zone and i'm on the warpath. i have nothing against your cat on your property, i would even say hello, but when they show up here i shoot first and ask questions later, this is my philosophy. or i'll send the dogs after 'em if messy bessie ain't handy. last time i did that was yesterday afternoon, as a matter of fact. i'm sick of them going after my chickens and i don't even want to think about them shitting in the shrubbery. i do a lot of landscaping and yard work. .....here kitty! cat carcass. if you don't want a taxidermy project, keep your fish-breathed varmints off my ranch. that's all she wrote.
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Posted: 4/23/2011 4:43:47 AM |
# 1 -- to J-Moon: i think you've inadvertently given your cat an IQ test. Get back to me on whether he'll still crate himself, after even 1 trip in the crate led to a trip to the vet?
yep. done that. we've gone to the vet and taken drives around town. he still does his 'treat trick.' not only that, but i often find him hanging out in his carrier napping. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/23/2011 4:46:50 AM | | I quite like friends' cats but I don't think I'd want one of my own. The main reason is I don't like the fact they kill birds and mice....I would freak if they gave me the "present" of a dead bird in the morning. I guess if I did have one, I'd attach a big bell to it's collar. ;-) I think cats are a lot more aloof than dogs are. I prefer dogs to cats. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/23/2011 6:14:52 AM | Archeological evidence suggests that the original need to domesticate cats centered around the human need to safeguard grain stores from rodent pests. Today farm cats, also known as barn cats, are still common, and are cats kept primarily for the purpose of catching the smaller vermin found on farms and ranches, which would otherwise eat and/or contaminate the farmer's crops, especially grain or feed stocks.
Though farm cats may have a more wild temperament than cats kept as pets, they may be treated as house cats or derive sustenance solely from their job of lowering the mouse and rat populations. In the latter case, lack of guaranteed food supply, and the necessity of physical exertion on their part, may tend to cause these cats to be much leaner than their domestic counterparts. On dairy farms, barn cats are often rewarded in milk for their work at hunting vermin.
If the population of adult female farm cats is kept high enough (about 3-6 breeding females, depending on the location) their population can be self-sustaining for several years. The females will establish permanent homes in barns or other structures, especially if they are fed and sheltered there. Males will almost always leave permanently, only returning to mate. This can lead to inbreeding, as the male offspring return to impregnate their mothers. Wiki
Cats have been around for ages and began as part of the working animals in farms and villages, as described above. I think those who express vitriolic loathing of cats truly have some kind of psychological issue. Again, think it probably boils down to that cats are pretty smart, and some people are simply threatened by that.  | |
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Posted: 4/23/2011 6:41:49 AM | motown: I would be most interested in WHY you hate cats that much. I like them, and don't feel animosity (anti-mouse-ity?) towards you for hating them, but I am curious. I know all about the problem of poop boxes and smells and such, that comes with every critter (including humans), and so do lots of other added complications to life. Heck, some of us stay alone a long time after splitting up with someone, just because of all the falderal and nonsense we DON'T have to deal with in exchange for sleeping with a warm friend. I know how destructive cats can be on some parts of an environment, but that too is true of lots of creatures.
So are cats the ONLY creature who excite your trigger finger itch, or are they uniquely so, and can you say why? | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 6:43:44 AM |
# 1 -- to J-Moon: i think you've inadvertently given your cat an IQ test. Get back to me on whether he'll still crate himself, after even 1 trip in the crate led to a trip to the vet?
yep. done that. we've gone to the vet and taken drives around town. he still does his 'treat trick.' not only that, but i often find him hanging out in his carrier napping
It would actually show more intelligence or reasoning if the cat refused to go back into the carrier after a trip to the vet even for a treat. Doing stuff for food isn't a sign of great intelligence. Figuring out that the carrier means a trip to the vet and "deciding" not to go for the instict treat really would show some genius.
i fukkin hate cats and i will shoot them on sight everytime they show up here. this place is a no-cat zone and i'm on the warpath. i have nothing against your cat on your property, i would even say hello, but when they show up here i shoot first and ask questions later, this is my philosophy. or i'll send the dogs after 'em if messy bessie ain't handy. last time i did that was yesterday afternoon, as a matter of fact. i'm sick of them going after my chickens and i don't even want to think about them shitting in the shrubbery. i do a lot of landscaping and yard work. .....here kitty! cat carcass. if you don't want a taxidermy project, keep your fish-breathed varmints off my ranch. that's all she wrote
Ick. If you're really this psychotic it may have something to do with the water or the air or the local "victuals" in whatever backwoods part of the world you live in and chances are pretty good that your neighbors with the cats are just as nuts and possibly bent on being the stars of a Dateline special titled "Hatfields and McCoys" so there's a pretty good chance when they find out you've blown away their cats they'll lob a few poisoned steaks over the fence for your dogs. You may want to give just an once of thought before you Jeffery Dahmer someone else's pets. | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 7:35:20 AM |
Ick. If you're really this psychotic it may have something to do with the water or the air or the local "victuals" in whatever backwoods part of the world you live in and chances are pretty good that your neighbors with the cats are just as nuts and possibly bent on being the stars of a Dateline special titled "Hatfields and McCoys" so there's a pretty good chance when they find out you've blown away their cats they'll lob a few poisoned steaks over the fence for your dogs. You may want to give just an once of thought before you Jeffery Dahmer someone else's pets.
 Priceless!!
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 8:01:57 AM | People are allowed to dislike cats. They do attack hens and chickens; they do kill birds and other wildlife. In my area, cats must be kept indoors 24/7.
To call a poster who doesn't like cats ''unintelligent'' or ''psychotic'' is just baiting them. | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 8:29:12 AM | Yes, cats belong indoors - for their own safety as well as that of wildlife. I have three of them and they never leave my enclosed backyard when they are outside.
I am having trouble with a neighbour cat that is allowed to roam free, but I would never consider causing harm to it. It is hardly the neighbourly or humane thing to do, and anyway, there are laws against that sort of behaviour. | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 8:30:01 AM |
To call a poster who doesn't like cats ''unintelligent'' or ''psychotic'' is just baiting them.
To claim that you kill cats on sight seems WAY more baiting. . . . Just sayin' ~~
In my neighborhood, I do have neighbors that shoot dogs. Dogs will run sheep until the sheep die of heart attacks. They won't wait til that happens. . . . But they don't *hate* all dogs. Mostly, they own a few.
Ferrel pets of all varieties: dogs, cats, iguanas, alligators can and do cause problems everywhere there are irresponsible pet owners.
To the poster upthread who sez that poodles and bichons don't shed: that's close to true. German Shepherds, however, DO. Big time, and endlessly. Try to get one that matches your clothing, rugs, and furniture.
I've always kind of maintained that dogs are like three/four year olds, and cats are like teenagers. . . . Smarts? Dogs are smart enough to get you to feed and protect them, and walk them in the rain in exchange for being your clown. Cats are smart enough to get you to feed and protect them, without having to do tricks. . . .
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 8:46:20 AM | .....cats are like teenagers. . . . Smarts? ...... Cats are smart enough to get you to feed and protect them, without having to do tricks. . . . .  | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/23/2011 9:24:21 AM | I grew up with two dogs and my dad was a cat hater so it kind of rubbed off on me. He said he wouldn't save one if it ended up in our pool (dumb comment because cats can swim).
As I got older I had my own reasons for disliking cats:
1) They take a sh*t in your home and smell it up
2) When you lift them up their bodies behave like slinkies (no substance to their bodies like dogs have)
3) Their caterwauling is annoying
4) Their fur sticks to clothng even with laundering (in my childhood home we had shih tzus, so their fur wasn't an issue) .
5) They're posture isn't cute when they walk; they're racoon like
My reasons for disliking cats changed last year, however, when this female calico cat approached our front window. My four year old opened our front door and let her in. I wanted him to have fun with her even though I wasn't a fan of cats.
I filed a lost report and nobody claimed her and as each day passed by I started finding myself drawn to her. Okay, she is beautiful (I am vain...lol) and I decided since we all liked her to keep her.
My solution to eliminate that disgusting cat poo smell is to never use clay litter. I use horse bedding (soft pine). It costs $9 for a $35 bag and works like a charm and it never smells like "cat" in my home! | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 9:44:58 AM |
I am having trouble with a neighbour cat that is allowed to roam free, but I would never consider causing harm to it. It is hardly the neighbourly or humane thing to do, and anyway, there are laws against that sort of behaviour. I agree. Killing other peoples' animals is nearly as low as killing other people. And, in most places, there are laws against it. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/23/2011 9:52:37 AM | "I have almost always had a cat or so. I find them fascinating. I agree in part with Abelian about their intelligence, I have not found that they are as intelligent as many dogs are, AT LEAST IN HUMAN RELATED TERMS. They are always CATS, never "little fuzzy people." "
I love both species, but cats better suit my personality. No personal animals in my life at this time, and I like it this way a lot as well. I can come and go as I please and not worry about a pet left behind. :-)
I don't think a cat is necessarily less intelligent than a dog or 'dumb,' because it follows a laser pointer, even to the point of chasing its own tail. Cats are simply motivated differently. Cats despise boredom and love a challenge. The laser pointer provides the cat with an unpredictable chase and mental stimulation. A lot of people are too busy comparing cats to dogs and/or not noticing the level of intelligence cats do possess. I agree with you, cats are fascinating (as is any animal), and of all the little and large creatures, the brain of the cat has memory and emotional mapping most comparable to humans. Felines of all sizes are some of the most clever and fascinating animals on the planet.
I know no one who hates cats; however, I do know a few who dislike or don't care for them. Some people are clean freaks and can't deal with shedding hair, litter box odors, etc., others may relate better to a more sociable animal. I know a lot of people who tell me they hate horses. When I ask why, I get answers like 'they're too big' or 'too strong and cannot be trusted.' It is more about being afraid than hateful.
I'm sure some people do hate cats, whatever the reason. I don't care if people hate them, as long as they don't abuse/harm them. Hatred is scary, and can fester into action. It carries desire of punishment. To inflict pain or destroy. I think such people merely hate their own existence and life in general. Most people don't necessarily 'hate,' and have compassion toward animals, but may not want to include a cat (or any animal) into their lifestyles. | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 9:57:40 AM |
To call a poster who doesn't like cats ''unintelligent'' or ''psychotic'' is just baiting them
Technically I was just calling anybody who would blow away a neighbors cat psychotic. Maybe disturbed and psychotic is more correct. Disliking cats is completely allowable. Naming your cat shooting gun "messy bessy" probably is a bit of a problem.
Speaking of baiting, how about getting a couple cat traps from the local humane society and catching the "varmints" and then turning them into the pound or giving them back to the neighbor in a nice little box, safe and sound with a bill for fifty bucks? | |
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| the cat who ate my brain
Posted: 4/23/2011 2:02:20 PM | I'm not a cat person. Never was.
In a previous home there was a neighbor's cat who routinely left an assortment of dead rodents on my porch. Not cool. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/23/2011 2:33:28 PM | I hate lots of animals, but this thread is about cats.
I hate cats because they symbolize cat owners.
I have never been around a cat owner and liked them for more than about 10 minutes.
They either stink, treat their cats like kids, ask me for money to help cure their cat of cat AIDS or for some sort of cat leukemia or for a transplant to get their cat out of a persistent catatonic state, or tell me (or imply) how much better they are because they have a cat, and how a cat has led them to some deep understanding of people or the universe, about how life sucks for them except for their courageous cat that does nothing but angelic things (besides smell, scratch up the furniture, smell up their clothes, knock over bookshelves and things, scratch, etc.), try to give me a cat or think there is something wrong with me because I don't have a cat, or simply anthropomorphize their cat, or torture their cat and think that it's funny.
I hate cats for the people they represent.
But that's not all
If there are a bunch of cats without owners, then it's because their dumb ass owner abandoned it somewhere, possibly in a box of 20 others in the middle of Petco or Wal-Mart, or simply decided it was easier to leave them behind when they moved.
Or the cat ran away because there doesn't seem to be that stringent of leash laws for them.
And then the cat(s) likes to stand up on my fence and yowl for the longest time at 11 at night, get it's buddies together and crap and piss in my yard killing all sorts of things I do like, go through my garbage, or mate and fight all night under my windows.
I like cats on farms. To kill barn mice, to help control the pest population.
That's about it. That is the only positive I can see for cats.
Other than that I think they should be used in hot dogs to feed homeless people and those on food stamps. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/23/2011 4:29:16 PM | I dont hate cats, but i dont care to be around them. I think they are beautiful though, and very intelligent.
Every time i have been in a persons home who had cats, their home stank, and they didnt even realize how bad it stank, even when they said they had cleaned the litter after i told them how awful their home stank.
I take great pride in my home and could never allow it to smell poorly. The smell alone makes my eyes water and nauseated.
I am allergic to the hair, if around a cat for more than a few minutes, i start to sneeze, eyes swell up and itch, and face breaks into a rash, and its very unpleasant.
If i had a less sensitive sense of smell, was less anal about keeping my home clean, and not allergic, i suppose i could cope with one, but as of now they are absolute dealbreakers. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/24/2011 12:55:04 AM | Holly G.: ^ ^ ^
... Killing other peoples' animals is nearly as low as killing other people. And, in most places, there are laws against it.
I'll disagree here.
Killing animals is not like killing people.
Every vet shop in town is offing several animals every week, either because they are sick, or they are a burden to someone, or they are simply bad mannered and unwanted.
If the neighborhood cats and dogs come into your back yard and are after your own kids or pets or animals, I bet you would wring their neck without many misgivings. Well, I would.
Wringing the neighbor's neck instead , may be more justified and satisfying, but the law seriously sneers at that.
I don't particularly dislike cats , but I don't like scratched furniture and doors, foul odors and hair all over the place. I have friends who live with cats in their houses, and I can smell even the cleanest of them despite the air fresheners and the special poop sands.
As for cat hair, it is permanently woven into their clothes, or their bedspreads and in their kitchens, as it flies everywhere, regardless of how often you vacuum.
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/24/2011 1:01:08 AM | The hatred and vitriole some here are heaping towards a particular type of animal is alarming to me, and very sad....
Without my cats being there for me for years now, I honestly don't know what I would have done. They're my angels. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/24/2011 1:09:51 AM | I don't like scratched furniture and doors, foul odors and hair all over the place. I have friends who live with cats in their houses, and I can smell even the cleanest of them despite the air fresheners and the special poop sands.
As for cat hair, it is permanently woven into their clothes, or their bedspreads and in their kitchens, as it flies everywhere, regardless of how often you vacuum. Not trying to argue about this as it is really pointless, people will have their opinions regardless, but I find this to be a quite exaggerated and essentially biased perception rather than reality. I cannot testify to the smell as I suppose it could be something that is based on what you are used to. I know when I enter someone's home who smokes, the house and everything in it smells of smoking, as does the person, his/her hair and clothing. The odor penetrates upholestry and never comes out, even when it is steamed cleaned. The homes of smokers smell far nastier than any home I've entered that has cats. Not all cats (mine never have) tear up the furniture or curtains or leave lots of hair everywhere. My current partner is allergic to cats. Despite the fact a cat lived in the apartment for a couple of years and since he died I haven't vacummed the drapes or the sofa (not thoroughly), my partner is not bothered by cat dander at all. There just wasn't that much, though my cat was a long haired breed. There is/was no cat hair permanently woven into my clothes, bedspreads or kitchen. This is all just gross exaggeration. I think this post points out that we make our own realities based on personal biases that affect perception of reality.
I'll disagree here.
Killing animals is not like killing people. My comment here is based on how people feel about their animals. For most, or many, people, the pets are members of the family. Their deaths are like losing a member of the family, nearly as painful and heartbreaking. To kill one simply because you can (for instance because you own guns) without regard to how it will affect someone else is unreasonably excessive. If someone's pet is a problem, talk to them or with the authorities. | |
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| People who hate cats -- why?
Posted: 4/24/2011 5:30:05 AM | Despite protests to the contrary, it is absolutely possible to have a clean and odor-free home with a pet (cat or otherwise) in it. It's just a matter of attending to it. Those whose homes smell and those who have hair on their clothing are also those who don't clean regularly. Cleaning once in awhile (ex: for a guest) probably won't be effective. But general good housekeeping is plenty to control all of the concerns. Hair "permanently woven into clothing/bedspreads" is a choice, not a requirement of having a cat.
This is all just gross exaggeration. I think this post points out that we make our own realities based on personal biases that affect perception of reality.
In fairness, I'm sure there are plenty of people who do not clean their houses regularly or effectively... and apparently all of their friends are posting on this thread. I'm sure there are nightmare houses with owners who swear they clean all the time and just can't keep up. The mistake the posters here are making is believing those lies and assuming every household with a cat is similarly unkept. | |
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