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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/14/2009 3:21:17 PM |
It was my only hospitalization in adulthood, but there were 3 others when my illness manifested. Much of those 'symptoms' are relative to what's going on in a person's life. I've always had bipolar II disorder (depression to hypomania) but when I take a substance that manipulates dopamine, well that all changes. Getting to the awareness of how acute my condition was took a short black girl telling me, "You talked too much". At the time, I was asked if I had any form of gainful employment, which was sorta silly to me, as I've had my own business since 2000. So I told them every job I had since 1985, in detail. TMI. Of course, when I had recognized it for myself, all I had to do was note the difference between meds and stop the one that was causing it. I cleared up within a day.
Talking too much is a symptom of mental illness? This is news to me.
I really didn't take that comment personal, and in fact other than mention how irrelevant it was,. When I train my employees, sometimes I give them little instructions other than, "assemble this", to make them think. Of course it frustrates them, and in the end, it does what I want. It makes them think. There are really only 2 things I have to do to make something. First I have to decide to do it. Then, I do it. IQ has absolutely nothing to do with that. I've met several very talented individuals who chose a course of action that effectively castrated their abilities. They had plenty of 'potential' and yet became very unemployable. Potential is good, naturally, but it's the end result or bottom dollar that matters.
I think you are mistaken. This entire paragraph is irrelevant to High IQ in relation to Mental Illness.
Considering the feelings and opinions of others isn't rocket science. It's more like actually caring enough to be considerate, and possibly, on occasion placing oneself the the shoes of the other person, especially on occasion when someone's mad at me helps. Caring enough to do that is important, but I've yet to see anything to suggest that it's related to IQ. I'm not talking about people who do care versus people who do not. I'm talking about those that do not realize that what they say to someone, though honest, could hurt their feelings. Learning to form criticisms or explanations in a compassionate way can be learned. I don't know if one can become someone who cares, when they didn't before. I feel that lacking the feeling of caring towards others is part of a personality disorder.
The reason someone who has a high IQ could learn to be more understanding of another person than someone with a lower IQ could, is because they are more teachable. Someone with a higher IQ has the ability to understand things more easily than someone of a lower IQ. That's just part of what IQs measure. :shrug: | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/14/2009 3:39:13 PM | "Someone with a higher IQ has the ability to understand things more easily than someone of a lower IQ." If God is allmighty, can He create something that is too heavy for Him to lift? And can the highly intelligent understand what it means to not understand? | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/14/2009 7:44:32 PM | Are we talking about the kind of intelligence you define as being able to remember what's written down in a book or are we talking about the kind of intelligence where the person has their own individual mind and can think out of the frame........
Couldn't be too bothered with the first kind of intelligence, the second one is a must as I love having discussions with someone whose mind is independent. And that my friend is something unique and something a person cant learn.... something you dont learn from a book. | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/14/2009 11:21:09 PM |
Are the two belief systems compatible? I imagine that a person who just wants to be happy won't care much for finding things out. A person who has a strong will to find things out won't care much or settle for just being happy. The two belief systems are at odds and likely to conflict Where on earth do you get this stuff? Do you actually think that, for a person who enjoys learning, somehow learning is laborious and precludes enjoying life? Because, buddy, I got news for you - I LOVE learning, LOVE finding things out and am one of the happiest people I know. Learning makes me happy!!! Hunting for information - sometimes it's practically detective work - is fun! Exercising my brain is fun!
Law of human nature #3 Humans are beings of reason. To every effect there must be a cause. To every cause a reason. A reason without the scientific method is still a reason and in most cases its all the reason a human needs. Again, what bizarre dimension are you going to to find BS like this? There is zero such thing as a 'law of human nature' and that was just a bunch of gobbledygook!
Dude, you are a scream! | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/16/2009 1:28:48 AM |
Dude, you are a scream!
You should hang around me for day, you'll break a rib .
Again, what bizarre dimension are you going to to find BS like this? There is zero such thing as a 'law of human nature' and that was just a bunch of gobbledygook! -.- oh, I forgot to mention I speak gobbledygook. However I don't mind being wrong and I don't mind being corrected. Can you give a logical reason why the following is not correct or at the very least why its BS:
"The most fundamental law I have found concerning human nature is that to everything a human does there has to be a reason. Even if its the reason to have no reason, or a reason the human may not be consciously aware off. Thus, the reason is the foundation to any philosophy or Ideology..." | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/16/2009 7:36:23 AM | Are we talking about the kind of intelligence you define as being able to remember what's written down in a book or are we talking about the kind of intelligence where the person has their own individual mind and can think out of the frame........Couldn't be too bothered with the first kind of intelligence, the second one is a must as I love having discussions with someone whose mind is independent. And that my friend is something unique and something a person cant learn.... something you dont learn from a book.
I think that you must have a bit of the former to reason in the latter. Otherwise you're just speaking gibberish, and loose crediblity. For instance when I go on a nature walk, I see an interesting plant or animal that I'm unaware of I will go and look it up in a field manual to learn about it. That however, doesn't take away from my interest or love of its beauty, it reinforces it. I can love an O'Keef or a Matise for it beauity and unquiness, then I can read about how they moved art forward. Reason is like the Borque period, bring light out of the dark. I guess that is why that is my favorite artistic period. | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/16/2009 10:19:21 AM |
I think that you must have a bit of the former to reason in the latter. Otherwise you're just speaking gibberish, and loose crediblity. What if you reached a point, where the things you want to find out, cannot be found in a book? | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/17/2009 8:21:54 AM |
What if you reached a point, where the things you want to find out, cannot be found in a book?
Abstract thought + logic + experiments + math = discovery and/or invention
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/17/2009 10:16:09 AM | | Intelligence is bad. Most women will not date me because I don't have an associates degree or batchelor's degree. Even though I have been throu 6 years of college and still plan on completing my degree soon. Similar to a woman not wanting to date a guy who makes only 15,000 a year. It should not matter what kind of education or job you have. It is not right for women to judge guys like me has a loser who in that catergory just because I work in a grocery store making 15,000 a year with no college degree. | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/17/2009 12:18:08 PM | " It should not matter what kind of education or job you have."
Education or job has nothing to do with intelligence.
Intelligence is nature - education or job is nurture | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/17/2009 12:26:12 PM | I think it must be. And here's why. Everytime I begin to think in my relationships instead of simply "going with the flow" or "what feels good"?
The relationship ends.
Why? Because they were bad relationships from the beginning - I was just feeling instead of thinking intelligently. | |
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| Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 8/25/2009 1:22:24 PM | "I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind. I want someone for whom philosophical discussion is foreplay. I want someone who sometimes makes me go ouch due to their wit and evil sense of humor. I want someone that I can reach out and touch randomly. I want someone I can cuddle

Add that I want someone who knows the difference between debate/argument and a fight. While I love a good debate, I run from a fight. | |
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