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Posted: 9/4/2011 9:41:30 AM | I have recently been laid off from the civil service and have looked at all kinds of jobs and applied for loads, I have had interviews for well paid jobs but min wage jobs don't even reply to me.
In the civil service I worked for the DWP and those who are smart will work out which area  so I have seen both sides of it.
I have seen those who - Don't want to work
Want to work but can't get a job due to illness
Have been made redundant after years in the same job and can't
find a job either.
It is a nice idea to say 'Get a job in Mcdonalds' but there is a problem with being over qualified just as there is being under qualified. It costs an employer a lot of money to recruit people, so many will not take on people who they deem under qualified because they will loose them when something better comes along, then they have to spend more money to recruit again.
They will take people out of uni because they often have no work exp so won't be so quick to move on.
The employment market isn't as straight forward as it seems and every employer works to different targets.
For example - I had a customer on my caseload who had worked for a well known company for 35 years and was the manager, you would think he would get a job quickly. He had the problem of being older, high competition for management jobs and being over qualified for shop floor staff.
Dating doesn't have to be expensive and as they say the best things in life are free, some of the most enjoyable dates I have had have been the simple cheap or free ones. I met a man off here early last year as a friend, he had a job but recently become single so was struggling on one wage so we used to take his dog to the woods and beach for walks, make cakes and eat fish and chips and even meals out can now be fairly reasonable.
There is a pub in Norwich that sells home cooked food buy one meal get one free all the time, ok so it is £10 a meal but that is only £5 each.
To me the mans attitude is what is important; however being employed doesn't always mean they have disposable income to afford nice dates etc. | |
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Aggers
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Posted: 9/4/2011 10:29:21 AM | | It makes me wonder if kids starting Uni now are doing the best thing, rather than an on-the-job training or an apprenticeship. Of course for some professions (Medicine, Law etc) a Degree is essential. A lot of 18 year olds are starting Uni now with no clue of what they want to do. Of course there are lots of graduates working in menial jobs which are nothing to do with the Degree course they undertook. No education is wasted some of you may say, but this glut of graduates with no jobs in their field of study, or a glut of graduates in certain job vacancies is of concern. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 10:32:50 AM | ^^^^
It was on the news here when A level results came out that many weren't getting the courses they wanted, one girl wanted to do Ancient history but didn't get in so took a course in Marketing???? why? its nothing to do with what she wants to do so she will get in debt for something she doesn't want to do. I think for many it is an excuse to get drunk and not have to work for another few years.
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I feel bad enough at 26 and not having a pot to piss in, can't even get an interview for a min wage job etc....it is disheartening and I can understand why some people get to a certain stage and just give up. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 10:50:30 AM | ^^^^^^
I may be older than the average bear, that you are talking about. But wind back 25-30 years or so! I said in my earlier posts I had been through all the education stuff and was fairly successful! Also during my career a lot of time served experience and qualification's too! They are all something I worked so hard to gain in my teens and formative years.
All that pain & hard work that I did, I truly believed would prevent what has happened now . If I had known, would I have bothered at all.??
Because it feels like I have just been told, nice kid, good hard worker, hey he is well-qualified & can do the job. But F**k him, he's 44 lets just sling him on the scrap heap! Do you know how it feels???? | |
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cc7up
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Msg: 107 | |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 11:39:40 AM | Yes,Bandani, I do.
As a single man that has enjoyed a good standard of living and lifestyle it is gutting to find that age is definitely against me in securing regular employment in my field of expertise in which i am well qualified with up to date certificates.
Company HR departments are just not interested in recruiting older employees and no amount of pc 'Spin' will convince me otherwise.
When you are faced with life's rejection's it is easier (with the resilliance of youth) to bounce back but later on in life there is a tendency to withdraw to one's cave like a wounded Lion to lick one's wounds.
Older unemployed people must be the hardest group to get themselves back into a regular and worthwhile job.
If they can get an interview,that is.
I agree with 'Cinders' in that dating is a luxury that the unwaged just can't afford.
I guess there is always PoF...
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Posted: 9/4/2011 11:41:23 AM | | you know what thats tough but it's life, so you can continue complaining or get over it and move on from it, don't take it all so personally - we are in a recession many people are in this position - just look at the emerging opportunities from your situation and try and make the best of them - be careful with the attitude as an employer these things can be picked up in interview | |
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cc7up
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Msg: 109 | |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:04:53 PM | superinjunction,
I am not complaining.I am just telling it the way it is for the older job seeker.
Where experience of recessions are concerned, this one is not my first Rodeo.
When you, as a thirty something, become a fifty something you will find it out for yourself.
Attitude,ability and motivation are qualitys i have plenty of and i am still getting agency jobs as an Offshore Rig worker.
btw, Do you give lessons in sucking eggs young lady?lol | |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:32:46 PM | cc7up - you are very sharp with your approach and advice and opinions on the forums however a little sensitive when others do the same?
I don't see what age has got to do with the matter - financial hardship, lack of jobs and difficulty to gain employment is not just an issue for the 'older job seeker'.
I was pointing out that personalising what is clearly affecting the whole of the country and getting a chip on your shoulder is not a good attitude to take into an interview - I would employ an older worker - I would not employ a whinger.
And yes with regards to working I can give you any lesson you want. Always keen to get the unemployed back into the field of work. | |
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Msg: 111 | |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:40:33 PM | Lol Bendani
When I first moved back to the area in 2008 I struggled to find a job and being an Avon rep wasn't bringing in the money like it had done when I lived elsewhere so I got an interview with the new '99p' shop that was opening.
I got turned down which I was kind of glad about but since then I have been in the shop and have noticed they have employed people with the brain cell of a gnat.
VVV
I applied at a phone shop looking for mature people and got turned down for being too young, but it is hard to prove that they have discriminated due to age. | |
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Msg: 113 | |
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:49:03 PM | Local poundland didn't even interview me, when I asked their HR for feedback, although very reluctant at first, they told me that they had "a more formative and progressive recruitment strategy" meaning they only employed younger people then!
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Don't say that I got an interview at a phone shop in the morning! | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 4:08:33 AM | msg 102
''It is a nice idea to say 'Get a job in Mcdonalds' but there is a problem with being over qualified just as there is being under qualified. ''
i recently attended the job centre in edinburgh where i came upon this
little beauty of a job
£6.50 PER HOUR.
Hours
10-15 HOURS PER WEEK, OVER 7 DAYS, DAYS
Location
EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN EH2
Role is minor repairs around a busy restaurant involving, joinery, minor plumbing, basic electrical and decoration works. You will have had previous experience in any or all of the areas above and you may be a qualified plumber or electrician (desirable but not essential), you will have a can do attitude and be able to work on your own initiative. You will have your own transport and be able to pick up essential maintenance supplies from time to time; your attitude to working hours needs to be flexible as we operate a 24 hour business.
How to apply
You can apply for this job by sending a CV/written application to Andrew Watson at McDonalds Restaurants Ltd, andrew.watson400@virgin.net.
Employer
McDonalds Restaurants Ltd
maybe i am displaying the wrong attitude here but that to me is
taking the piss.
can anyone in all honesty say that taking that job is better than being
unemployed?
minor electrical or plumbing works? where are health and safety then?
would you want to work in a place where electrical repairs were carried out
by someone with a 'basic' knowledge?
and if you did take the job you are basically on call so going on a date just
wouldnt be possible.
and the wages from it wouldnt go far on a date, a visit to the local 'flying tumbler' or
the'stab inn' for the karaoke would be about all that was affordable.
unemployment happens but as said attitude is important although it
is very easy to slide into the cant be bothered mode. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 4:15:12 AM | | I agree but of course there are top-ups that the Government can give to supplement a low-wage, and people should not worry about claiming these. Who though on a £6.50 per hour job can afford to run their own car. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 5:14:15 AM | Exactly Sweetiepie, when you work the inevitable happens such as travel costs going up, losing all or most of any help towards rents etc and tax credits don't make much difference.
I can get a moped for £30 a week for 50 weeks if I find a job that I can't get to by bus etc, that is £120 a month, plus £30 insurance etc so looking at £250 a month but if I use a bus it is £100 a month for a monthly ticket.
So for me to take a job off a bus route it is going to have to be well paid for me to afford it, unless I carry on living where I am.
My dad is hoping to pay for me to learn to drive and buy a cheap car, least I can use a car in the snow. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 5:32:35 AM | I really think those of us in the cities are fortunate when it comes to job-hunting. Those off the beaten track in villages or small towns have more difficulty; although there is always a bicycle for those who can ride and they can be picked-up cheaply enough.
Good luck Angelcakes - I am sure you will be fine once you get transport sorted. Unemployment is such a dreadful situation to be in, but what is worse is when people say the most crass things when they don't know a person's situation. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 10:01:37 AM | cc7up, angelcakes, sweetiepie - can I justsay this! All of your comments are very respectful. You all obviously have opinions and a knowledge of this area? I have found, that not just on here, but in the real world, that negative comments have come along too! I just believe that those in employment presently, that make such comments have no real knowledge of this situation and do not totally understand. But if it does happen to them!
Boot & other foot come to mind?  | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 10:19:29 AM | MSG 114
That is taking the pi$$, The moron who wrote that advert should be dragged out of his office and flogged. I had a little chuckle at:
you may be a qualified plumber or electrician (desirable but not essential)
Most good and busy plumbers i know are pulling 70k + a year and the sparks are not far behind. They're earning in a couple of hours what that bellend is offering for fifteen hours.
Totally and utterly deluded. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 3:11:46 PM | unemployment doesn't make you less attractive. As a musician I had plenty of fanny in my 20's etc they didn't give a shit I was skint lol
Not as much these days though ha! Something about "being responsible and an adult" yeh...........well f*ck that.
Women inherently are conducive to spending other people's money, their parents or your money!
Don't be duped, you may find 'her' attractive but is she really worth the expense?
Oh, I seem to have completely turned this subject around (see what I did there) women never do that in an argument do they............ | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 3:25:39 PM | | Wow ... how did this turn into an exercise in gender bashing? | |
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Cazita
| | Joined: 6/29/2011
Msg: 122 | |
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Posted: 9/5/2011 3:45:43 PM | | It's MrMuggles' specialty | |
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Posted: 9/6/2011 11:49:36 AM | 'unemplyoyed' ?
Now I think it's time I killed myself..soon be 50..no job..no hope.. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2011 4:07:33 AM | | There is a lot of ageism and I can see it when I have to attend an interview. As you are not obliged to unveil your date of birth on the cv when they see your wrinkly face and receding hairline they reject you immediately. Unfortunately my face cannot deny the age I bear and employers are savvy enough to detect it. You can add to this that younger workers are much cheaper to hire in this country and you can see the endgame. | |
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Posted: 9/25/2011 5:36:06 AM | Ageism has decreased dramatically. I'm seeing people in their 40's, 50's and 60's getting hired all the time. Many employers will favour someone with good experience and work history as past performance is a better indicator of future performance than none or very little. The key to maintaining your employability is to keep updating skills.
The people I am seeing struggling the most are the young. The 18 - 25 age bracket are having a really tough time getting much apart from minimum wage jobs with no prospects. | |
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cc7up, well done! OMG somebody has finally recognised, what I am feeling & trying to point out 
I can put up not being someone's cuppa in the dating world. But in a professional capacity after applying for 104 jobs (all targeted and not just where I live, btw) in August alone and being interviewed twice. Well morally I think it totally stinks
Especially when I've gone into these busimesses afterwards and seen the resuls!!! 
