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Posted: 3/27/2005 9:20:18 PM | Well maybe I can help you out angel.
It was basic geometry actually.
How does one fit a cranium with a circumference of 21.7 inches into a lower bodily orifice with a circumference of .45 inches. It took him seven years to get his head in there. If we are lucky it will take that long to get it back out...........
Hmm, just occurred to me- orphes, orifice. If only we had noticed the similarity sooner. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2005 9:35:09 PM | Oh my gosh...how true.........divorce is indeed more than a piece of paper.
Biblically though............we all need to believe in something.
My only concern with dating the seperated...it that their (mine) moods are quite labile.
They share a history with another and that it itself has led to many a reconcilliation. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2005 9:40:26 PM | Believe it or not, most IQ tests have nothing to do with regular thinking, as most know it. "Intelligence tests (IQ tests) measure intelligence". This is very common heard quote. That's why IQ tests are used by companies to select employees. Reality is not as simples as it appears to be. To be clear -- experts are still arguing about how to define intelligence.
A widely used concept is the one that states that intelligence is not a single entity, but that it consist of eight aspects. When some are talking about intelligence they're usually thinking about specific things.
The things typically measured by IQ tests are:
verbal (in communications)
inferential/analogical (use and appreciation of abstract relationships)
spatial or diagrammatic reasoning (observing of images, modify and reproduce them)
musicological (creating and understanding the significance of sound)
kinesthetic (use of the body on a highly evoluted level)
intra-personal (distinguishing feelings and the capability to create an accurate mental model of oneself)
inter-personal (distinguishing and recognition of feelings from others)
natural (distinguish, classify and use of aspects in the environment)
Of these, the first three aspects are most important in standard IQ tests. The other aspects are important features in so called "Assessment (center)" tests.
According to some scientists not all people have equal capabilities of these aspects, they even say that it varies, per aspect. They are supposed to determine how people learn or how they are doing, in their job. Training enhances your mental capabilities and doing nothing weakens them. As pointed out below, it should be clear that this view, although it has met with a kind reception in certain quarters, is highly controversial. Nevertheless these are also items that are considered important in a modern industrial society.
I believe that it is more correct to classify above mentioned aspects as: TALENT!
Of course, there are several different IQ tests available in the marketplace, some of them encompassing all eight areas of reasoning mentioned earlier, and some only consisting of one category of questions - eg. spatial (diagrammatic). The problem that has arisen is people commonly assume IQ to be actually measuring intelligence per se (which it is not....).
In fact, the original test on which modern IQ is based upon, was developed in the early 20th century by a Frenchman called Alfred Binet who wished to identify children needing remedial help in the schools of Paris. His test was empirical rather than being based on any theory of intelligence, and this is essentially true for typical IQ tests today, too.
Interestingly, his motives were essentially benign, and he appeared to be aware of the possible abuses of such a test in other hands. The test was then used and further developed in the USA, with the standard test being the Stanford-Binet, so called because it was revised by scholars at Stanford University. It is at this point that the modern concept of IQ really got underway, and subsequently it's use has not always been benign.
Currently, there is little evidence that IQ tests really measure intelligence, they are essentially an empirical development. In fact, there is no way in which an IQ test can be considered to be comprehensively measuring mental abilities, which are commonly understood to make up that intelligence. Some tests rely heavily on learned vocabulary. Given a certain vocabulary, it would be safe to assume that the verbal reasoning scores are somewhat valid, but it is not reasonable to assume that everyone taking the test would have the same vocabulary. Therefore this type of test can be only valid in certain situations.
In more than a trivial sense, it's thus fair to state that IQ is only a measure of the ability to do IQ tests. Issues such as 'vocabulary' mentioned above show that such tests are measuring learned knowledge, as much as any general kind of reasoning ability.
Hence, even if you've only had a high school education, or even an elementary education, for that matter, you could easily score in the upper ranges, either in one or many areas of the tests.
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| Dating a seperated person or anything that comes to mind
Posted: 3/27/2005 9:50:45 PM | OMG Angel....we could be fighting for days on specifics with that statement...lmao....brains or not...common sense or not....you find your level and where you belong....unless you decide not to try at all or believe you can not achieve what is reality..... | |
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Posted: 3/27/2005 9:53:06 PM | True, Jeanine, but that doesn't mean that it applies to all who are separated. Most who have valid reasons for separating, and not eveyone believes that piece of paper is necessary. I know I don't. To me, it's God's covenant that's special between two people, not a piece of paper. Once someone has gone outside that convenant, neither heaven nor hell could make me return to the person, and I don't care what that piece of paper says. As far as I'm concerned, I'm divorced in the heart.
If that piece of paper didn't hold the two people involved in the relationship, together during the marriage, what value does it actually hold after they are physically separated? Absolutely None! It doesn't matter about history. It's precisely that history that forced them apart in the first place and history has a way of repeating itself.
The IQ thing was for Joel, and the mean part was regarding the joke, by passing thru. It was funny too, though. 
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| Dating a seperated person or anything that comes to mind
Posted: 3/27/2005 10:00:30 PM | Not to mention my English usage was quite horrific, in a few parts of it, C. Can you say 'almost time for bed'? hehe
Specifics? Hmm..actually, I was just referring to the question Joel asked about IQ tests and why he questioned it, because he merely had a high school education, when he took the test. The information is quite valid, though, in regards to how they are derived, etc.
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Posted: 3/27/2005 10:04:45 PM | Well....
Many years ago... a friend of mine... a rather bright boy... ended up being the president of the local mensa chapter....
He tried for about a year to get me to take the iq test... I refused. I would rather not know what I would score.
What I do know, is that I know how to think. Ultimately, for me, and those I would choose to have close to me, that is really all that is important. Additional "talents" such as memory, musical ability, etc., are very nice too... as one who has seen his memory decline, it is something that I miss.
I do not believe that a person is a better or worse person for having a higher IQ... I know some wonderful people that I would not consider to have high IQ's.. but whose friendship I still value very highly. Sorry... I see that I am rambling... it has been a long day, and I just finished reading the last 8 pages of this thread. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2005 10:14:02 PM | As stated above, essentially the IQ tests are nothing more than a test. They don't determine much, as stated in my previous post, even though they are used for various purposes in the medical field, and in employment screening.
You're absolutely correct, it doesn't make the person better or worse for having a higher or lower IQ, as the tests really have no validity to them since many factors can affect them.
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Posted: 3/27/2005 10:29:06 PM | Angel.....
We know all that is true...but you also know when with someone over some time frame....where they fall as concerned with you in inteligence and ability....smiles | |
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Posted: 4/1/2005 8:24:44 PM | Angel, you're quite an historian, and you are attractive too.
Ron, you're a good writer.
Late, your a pretty good critic.
Sarita, you are (in a twisted sort of way... ha ha..) eloquent. BTW, good going on your match=up with Late. Late seems like a good catch, and he's a musician, so he's even a better choice. I sometimes play one of my several instruments to women that I know, and sometimes on the phone, too. Yes, I play six different instruments.
Hey, WHERE did the extra women come from whom I don't even know, yet they know me? Strange.
And, if ANYONE can figure out the origin of the original word or term "orphes" (not originally caps), or it's meaning, I will give them the math problem. Only if.
Sarita, go to "OtherSingles.com" and check out my bio. Then come back here, give me a fuul report, after you see how the women on there rated me. Mind you, that the women who rated me are between the ages of 19 and 56. Also, pay attention to two other things, ok? None of the women who rated me are unattractive. Also, pay real CLOSE attention to the attractive, slender, delicious, Italian-looking 37 year old doctor who rated me, and tell me if she's ugly. When you get back here, it's time for you to admit it, that never in five lifetimes would I ever have a need to "look" for a date. He he he...
And now for the question at hand;
Since I'm morally, legally, religiously and ethically free to do as I please, I am free to date whomever I please, and I do date, most of them being in their late 40's. to date, I've never been out with anyone over the age of 46, and last summer I dated one age 35. My last wife is now 48, and,, oh, never mind, you can figure it out...
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| Dating a seperated person
Posted: 4/3/2005 5:49:55 AM |
Would any of you date soemoen who is seperated with a divorce pending?
Circumstantial! Get to know the actual Status of it first, then make whatever appropriate Decision.
But if he/she is the one you have always been looking for, then yes, I would be right there 'through thick & thin'. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2005 5:46:08 PM | | I am a separated person. Have only been three months but it is over completely. Unfortunately because there are no grounds other than incompatible, in canada we have to wait a year before we can start divorce proceedings. I am no going to sit on my butt for a year and wait to date. To me its over except for legal papers. Same as when living together, same except for signed paperwork. I was separated 8 years the first time. Finally got a divorce after i met my new man (who turned out to be a dud). Actually in a way it was great, I was tempted to rush out and marry any of the men i had dated but who knows if I had been completely single. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2005 6:59:01 PM | c-gal,
what are the division of property laws like in Canada?
If you're separated, and your ex finds out you're dating sooner than they thought you would, and they get upset, could they send you to the financial cleaners?
in the US, i think men are more at risk for this...they get separated, regardless of why and WHO left, the man decides to go on and date before the divorce is final, and the ex finds out, she can screw him for much more than half of their money if she wanted to.
anyone ever run into that problem? i've never been married, so i can only go by heresay. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2005 8:57:04 PM | He Pasin'thru
Didn't I see you on Jerry Springer one day? sump'in about you and yo sistuh?
Or was it just about Arkinsaah?
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Posted: 4/24/2005 12:05:02 PM | | How can one NOT get divorced? If someone is in a marriage that isn't working, why would someone voluntarily NOT get divorced? Are there places in the US where laws prevent divorce still? | |
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Posted: 4/24/2005 2:32:15 PM |
But if he/she is the one you have always been looking for, then yes, I would be right there 'through thick & thin'.
And, if you're NOT the one he/she has always been looking for? How do you know? | |
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Posted: 4/24/2005 8:04:09 PM |
How can one NOT get divorced? If someone is in a marriage that isn't working, why would someone voluntarily NOT get divorced? Are there places in the US where laws prevent divorce still?
Because in most US States - divorce is a TWO-party process. Meaning, if one party is a blithering idiot, or excels at apathy, it can take forEVER to get divorced.
In the lovely state of Pennsylvania, for example, if one spouse does NOTHING (ignores court proceedings, correspondence from attorneys, vanishes to a remote island, whatever) - a divorce takes a MINIMUM of 2 years and 41 days.
October 26, 2006 cannot come fast enough.  | |
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| Dating a seperated person
Posted: 4/24/2005 8:35:15 PM |
How do you know?
Single, Divorced, Seperated.......?
What difference does it make to.....
How do you know? | |
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