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 Trophy Boyfriend
Joined: 9/24/2006
Msg: 126
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I love this work shortage guys , I meen if you look at my profession (bringing sexy back) the Alberta goverment pays me a pretty penny (with a 6 digit signing bonus and benefits) to do a job that I really am no good at . And for all you "hardcore" Albertians I have to tell you when the money stops flooding into my bank account I am going to take it and spend every last red cent where I came from (Toronto) just so Ontario's economy will see that much needed out of province financial boost that it deserves .

I gotta go now , I have a luncheon with Ralph Klien I'm about to miss . We're supposed to be trading ideas on out thoughts of HP sause , origional or bold . The old "social drinker" just doesn't realize that bold is the way to go . Will you guys ever learn ?

GO LEAFS GO
 countrydad
Joined: 12/29/2005
Msg: 127
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/17/2006 6:22:28 AM
to msg 125 ...it is not always the employer who is not willing to pay the wages, he usually pays for what he can find, when you can only find people who DO NOT want to work, but want to collect a pay cheque, how can you pay big wages?

to msg 126... it is people like you with your attitude that give all the people from the east a bad name
 Trophy Boyfriend
Joined: 9/24/2006
Msg: 128
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/17/2006 6:44:02 AM
to msg 126... it is people like you with your attitude that give all the people from the east a bad name


to msg 127... It is people like you that I write stuff like this to . And it is people like Ralph Klien that will stop HP sause origional from ever going out of production .

GO LEAFS GO

 horzeshooz
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 129
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Posted: 11/17/2006 7:10:11 AM
DON'T confuse^^^ from ontario as being from the EAST...IT'S AN INSULT TO TRUE EASTERNS
 L O K I
Joined: 8/10/2005
Msg: 130
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/17/2006 7:17:14 AM
and don't think that he represents all from ontario either.. not everyone from toronto thinks like that...
 Mad Jack
Joined: 9/13/2006
Msg: 131
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/17/2006 7:18:52 AM
This is true I've actually met some people from Ontario that don't think the world revolves around them! It's pretty cool actually. Props to you Loki
 L O K I
Joined: 8/10/2005
Msg: 132
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/17/2006 7:21:06 AM
i'm a proud canadian..... period. yes i came out here to work, but i fell in love with cagary and not really planning on moving back to toronto anytime soon...
 Mad Jack
Joined: 9/13/2006
Msg: 133
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/17/2006 7:23:35 AM
Welcome home brother
 LovingAngel
Joined: 6/10/2005
Msg: 134
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/23/2006 10:57:23 PM
People can't come here from other parts of the country when they can't afford to live here and no place to live.In less than a month the price of groceries almost doubled.Only junk food is cheaper.When that's all people can afford imagine the health risks.Is that going to help people work?No and they won't be able to pay for health care either.Wait till the wefare checks start bouncing.More crimes will be commited than ever.We'll have to put bars on our windows and do all the things we have to do for our protection.
 edmguy
Joined: 4/30/2006
Msg: 135
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Posted: 11/23/2006 11:24:54 PM
^^ wtf? welfare cheques bouncing? Impossible...

groceries doubling in price in Alberta? Havent seen it... Ive lived here most of my life... hasnt and wont happen...

Junk food being cheaper? no it isnt...

not being able to pay for healthcare? nm...

you my dear are off your rocker... and incoherant...
 stained_thorn
Joined: 3/26/2006
Msg: 136
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/24/2006 12:25:22 AM
Labour shortages are caused by the governments lack of control on this environment. Instead of taking away the welfare cheques for those "able" to work and sending them to preappoved jobs, were having our income tax raised.

As far as I know there should be no such thing as income tax right now! Isn't WWII over? Someone plz fill me in. The government seems to think were at war with our own economy. We had a surplus in cash flow last year that everyone recieved a tax return in Alberta. Why are they raising taxes if they already have too much?

Makes me feel stupid for not voting. Who put these numb nutz into power? Sadly... we all did.
 Albertan_Lawyer
Joined: 11/8/2006
Msg: 137
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/25/2006 12:53:29 PM
Income tax is going up? Since when?

Lowest marginal rate is 15.25% this year.
GST is 6%.

Base amounts are indexed to inflation.

Matt
 kleineken
Joined: 11/18/2006
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Posted: 11/25/2006 2:36:56 PM
Yeah, recently got unemployed myself here in Edmonton (due to my own fault and mistake), tons of jobs, alright, with hardly any benifits, and wages only at $10/hr or so.
How do I pay my mortgage on that ?

What boom ?
Even teenagers can't hardly survive on those wages.
No wonder they don't stay loyal to thier workforce.
Every 50 cents more counts.
 Albertan_Lawyer
Joined: 11/8/2006
Msg: 139
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/25/2006 2:57:56 PM
I find it hard to believe that any able-bodied male can't find a labour job for at least $13 an hour.

However, I don't think if you are making $10 an hour you are supposed to have a mortgage. Owning a separate home is a middle class area...not for the working poor.

However at $13/hour at 40 hours a week is $24k a year gross and approximately $1600 a month clear, which is more than enough to share accomodations, own a vehicle, and prepare to enter a vocational training program with student loans.

Matt
 ~*~Princess_Leia~*~
Joined: 9/27/2006
Msg: 140
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/25/2006 3:12:06 PM
I don't own a home... but have been supporting the kids and myself on $10 paying rent equivalent to a mortgage.

Easy to do if you share rent.

I know lots of single people who can't do it on more than triple that... but they drink more than I do too.

lol
 kleineken
Joined: 11/18/2006
Msg: 141
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Posted: 11/26/2006 1:06:17 AM
Alberta Lawyer..LOL

Well, maybe with internet growing as it is, like currently in real estate (comfree), lawyers may be out of work, too ?

Anyways, just got home from p/t job ($10 hr), and was chatting with a customer, that pays $800 month (cold), meaning plus UT's etc for a 2 bedroom basement suite.

I was lucky enough to buy my house on time, and pay less then he does.
So, don't say renting is cheaper.

Cdn Girl, thanks a lot. You know how we need to survive, it's not easy.
And we surely don't benifit from this boom. actually we end up paying more for it.
Wait , until the new GST cheques arrive next year.... we'll lose another 12%, because it's only 6% GST now, and ofcourse the rebates will be accordingly less.

The high rollers will benifit from buying a new car, that we can never afford.....

John.
 Albertan_Lawyer
Joined: 11/8/2006
Msg: 142
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 8:20:10 AM
ComFree puts real estate brokers out of work. You still need a lawyer to sign off on it :)

With the average edmonton housing price at $275,000, this is the time when people who make less need to share accomodations and split a mortgage with someone else. Housing prices are not going to drop and rental prices are going to continue to rise...so it is a smart investment.

Matt
 sweetandreal
Joined: 10/7/2006
Msg: 143
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 8:22:12 AM
I agree with Albertnlwyer....there are a TON of jobs right now, and no reason why a healthy, single person can't work a fulltime job! Most labour jobs start at $13.00-$15.00 per hour, plus overtime, and with the shortage of labourers, a guy can walk down the street and find a job. And there really is no excuse for underemployment in this economy.

The issue with this economy is that the middle class doesn't profit...rents have skyrocketed - I am now paying 950 a month for a 3 bedroom apartment (plus utilities), whereas 2 years ago it was 699. Crazy stuff, but I am not prepared to buy just yet - as I don't want to pay an overinflated price for a house right now...my stupidity - I should have bought a few years ago.
 Albertan_Lawyer
Joined: 11/8/2006
Msg: 144
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 9:06:55 AM
The price inflation in the market right now are houses in the lower half of the pricing market. People are still rushing in and pretty basic condos are now pushing 240-250.

Matt
 A Familiar Face
Joined: 10/30/2006
Msg: 145
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 9:12:11 AM
I'm a middle class professional on a single income. I bought my condo a year ago, moved in in March and the price on this place has skyrocketed in that year. It's nuts, but it's basic economics.

At my place of employment we are having difficultly recruiting employees due to the market. It's nearly impossible to get people to move from other provinces because when they find out the cost of living they decide that the wages aren't in line.
 L O K I
Joined: 8/10/2005
Msg: 146
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 9:23:29 AM
well it's funny, but i've been without a job for about 3 weeks and tomorrow i'm job hunting.. i'm open to preaty much anything as i don't really care what i do. i wonder how fast i'll find a job... if all else fails. i'm still employed with the drilling rig company.. lol i won't settle for less than 18 an hour..
 Senadin
Joined: 6/20/2006
Msg: 147
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 9:29:22 AM
^^^ You better have confirmed for the email!
Let me know when what time you plan on showing up....I am always at work 30 mins early.
 mon cherie
Joined: 8/10/2006
Msg: 148
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 9:41:39 AM

Owning a separate home is a middle class area...not for the working poor.


I disagree with this statement. When I lived in BC - I was the working poor and I owned my own home. It's a matter of making owning a home a priority and starting out with a small home and staying in budget.

Now my income is in the middle class but I currently rent. For my own reasons. doesn't mean I won't buy down the road.

It's a choice.


You still need a lawyer to sign off on it :)


I used a notary public to buy my house in BC. When I do finally buy in Alberta, isn't a notary acceptable here?
 Albertan_Lawyer
Joined: 11/8/2006
Msg: 149
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Posted: 11/26/2006 9:46:45 AM
Most notary publics are lawyers. And they still cost money :)


And yes there are examples of the working poor owning a separate house...but it is usually a condo or an apartment. That is becoming more and more true as our economy changes.
 dogparkgirl
Joined: 10/26/2006
Msg: 150
Labour shortage in Alberta
Posted: 11/26/2006 10:13:57 AM
Alberta is infamous for its useless labor laws.

They are merely meaningless window dressing and do not offer any sensible options for employees or employers.

Employers are not legislated to pay or treat their employees equitably, nor do employees have recourse if they are not treated fairly.

Our parental benefits and recognition of the contribution of the parent at home are pathetic. No wonder neither sex wants to stay home. I do not find it appealing that my employment "benefit" for taking a leave of absence from my paid work for a year to care for my child will be 60% of my wage, and probably lees, because there is a maximum amount on this :"benefit".

No one wants to come and work here at an average paying job where he or she will get treated like sh*t by people who think they are more because they make more money. And you probably won't be able to find an affordable place to live.

You get what you pay for in more ways than money can buy. Economics sorts itself out like natural selection sooner than later. Boom and bust, we've been there before due to our lack of planning and infrastructure.
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