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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/18/2006 9:36:13 PM | | It really doesnt matter what she did or her parents had her do... if she walked around the hood naked it wouldnt make a difference to anyone but a sicko... and wtf does the paparazzi have to do with anything? | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/18/2006 10:38:23 PM | well I for one will wait until the movie comes out or when the prosecutor signs a book deal and gets her 6 figure advance from Random house and goes on speaking tours.
Is this guy guilty???? too early to tell ..... Me, I will wait for the evidence preferbly not the tainted , planted, he said she said evidence. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 3:37:21 AM | I have often wondered if JonBenet was not paraded around and dressed up with makeup like a grown woman, would this have happened?????????????
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your kidding right???????
I mean this ranks right up there with,....her skirt was too short she was just asking to get raped,...
in neither scenario does it matter what they were wearing or how they were acting because rape and assault isn't about being overwhelmingly attracted,...
It's about power not sex,...
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As for did buddy do it???? I heard an interesting fact yesterday that would be hard to explain away,....it seems the next morning,...in JonBenet's bed there was a santa teddy bear that wasn't there the day before,....and it seems the bear,....(or so he said) was a bear that buddy had since he was a child,....now that's interesting and most definately provable,....or disprovable,.... | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 8:52:12 AM | | I think he got the info on the net someplace because he is screwy,and sick, but I dought he did it. I think the real killer put it on the net someplace so sickos could find it and get blamed for it. Nothing to back it up, just a feeling. I am sure he done other things to other kids, so if they nail him for it, he asked for it. | |
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vivid
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Msg: 115 | |
| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 10:27:47 AM | her skirt was too short she was just asking to get raped,...
in neither scenario does it matter what they were wearing or how they were acting because rape and assault isn't about being overwhelmingly attracted,
In this day and age with souring rapes, and child molesters cruising the
streets, the last thing I would allow is a child to be caked with
heavy make up and doing strip teases. Nobody can afford that kind of attention.
YES, when a skirt becomes too short in a room full of perverts somebody
sooner or later is going to be molested....they don't deserve to be
but it is the state of affairs in our countries.
Whether it's about power or some dude getting a boner over
a 6 year old or even if it's about pedophiles running around the
streets loose, somebody is going to be hurt, Marita, and the
fact she's looking like a tart does not help the situation. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 11:38:48 AM | actually if anything the reverse is true,....
a man who is turned on by a six year old,....is turned on by a six year old,....
(that's the whole point to his particular perversion)
He's not turned on by a twenty year old,....nor a six year old
made up to look like a twenty year old,....
the one doesn't necessarily follow the other,....
( when a skirt becomes too short in a room full of perverts somebody
sooner or later is going to be molested???) I don't think so,..
and FYI to me,....just exactly where is JonBenet doing a strip tease????
I hear that a lot but that's not what I have seen her do,....so enlighten me,....
and what the heck is a souring rape??? | |
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vivid
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Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 117 | |
| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 11:47:28 AM | Marita, go watch her show....all over the web. But, only watch the shoes
with both audio and video. The music she dances to, and the removal of
one piece of clothing is suggestive of one thing.....you kinda get the idea.
It's the sexualizing of children - what's not to get? Singing "I want to be a cowboy sweetheart" and taking off a portion of her clothing and winking....hmmmm...
me thinks it's sexy if it was my gf doing the dancing for me.
You don't think so? Well, apparently the Ramsey's didn't get it either. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 11:54:37 AM | actually I didn't get that at all,....
I saw it in much the same way a runway model removes her jacket because that's all they remove also,.....
it's all a matter of perception,....
if you are looking at something from a perverted point of view,..that's what you'll find,....
sometimes we see what we are looking for,.... | |
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vivid
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Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 119 | |
| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 12:24:58 PM | What about the Little Miss Hooter's pageant? And what 'little hooters' were
they referring to? Personally I like my hooters a little more than a handfull.
....you probably wouldn't get that one either.
The moral decay continues.... | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 12:53:47 PM | I never heard of little miss hooters,....
but sure'nuff it exists,....
and yes this is beyond disgusting and should fall under the headding of kiddie porn,....
but I couldn't find anywhere,....a site where JonBonet was ever in this kind of contest / pagent,...so site your source please,....
remember 10 years ago was in fact 10 years ago,...I don't believe this contest was even around then,....and the pagents that were had been around for a long time,....
Even JonBonet's mom was in pagents as a child and young teen,....so I can understand why her thinking would be that pagents are fine,....where as you and I,...well I,...at any rate have never been to a pagent and think that all pagents are stupid and exploitive,....
I also think cheer leading to the degree they do it in the south is rediculous,...
ra ra sis bum bah indeed,....I never did get the point,....vivid,...
It's all what one is used to and what's the fashionable in a particular area,....
up here we don't have our kids shake their anything,....they just yell loud from the stands,....
something that might be considered goosh or rude down south,....kay ce rah ce rah,...I guess,.... | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 3:41:45 PM | | They did a story on this confessed killer on Dateline the other night, I don't think he did it. They never said how he might have known her, his wife says he was in one of two other states that night, being that it was Christmas, and they also said he didn't even live in CO at the time. He did however, do a paper on that case for a class he was taking. He's not innocent, that's for sure. He had a resume a mile long, and most of the schools he subbed at fired him for inappropriate behavoir. Then he started teaching overseas, ending up in Bangkok, where he was in prison for suspicious behavoir with his students there, as well. He sure looks like a creepy one, though. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 5:25:50 PM | I have often wondered if JonBenet was not paraded around and dressed up with makeup like a grown woman, would this have happened?
I've actually wondered this myself. I took a stroll through the clothes they're offering for little girls to wear recently and was horrified to see that it's now acceptable to dress our children like hookers.
Now, I don't mean teenage girls, I mean the under-12 set. And it IS different from an adult model, because JonBenet was NOT an adult. Do we really need to sexualize children? | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 6:04:05 PM | Do we really need to sexualize children?,....
God I hope not,....
but neither do we have to dress our male small children in fatigues and little soldier uniforms,....but even I remember buying the little sailor outfits,...for my son's,...
We have always dressed our kids especially the todlers and babies in such a manner,...
how many times have we seen little girl todler's in a 2 piece bathing suite,....why?
Remember we also buy these silly things and if we didn't ,..
then manufacturers wouldn't produce them,....
the 12 and under don't buy and pay for their own clothes,..we do,...
and it doesn't stop with clothes,...we buy our boys guns and girls dolls and we are agast if our boys want to have dollies,...Why?
I thought I was being pretty liberal when I bought my son the little cabbage patch kid and cabbage patch baby,...I was proud of myself for nurturing my boys sensetive side,...untill I saw him use his baby Sally (the bigger cabbage patch kid) as a gun, to shoot down his baby Benjamine (the smaller one),...that he biffed onto the roof of the house,....sheesh!
Many things we do,...to and for our kids could be seen in a different light,....
I don't know what the answer is,....I just think the issue isn't quite as cut and dried as we would like to believe,....
but I do know that pedophilia isn't out there because we dress our toddler girls in a 2 piece swim suite,...and by dressing our children a certain way,....it exists because these guys are sick,...
for example; There is currently a serious problem in Africa with infant rape,....
it exists because the men there think by having sex with as young a virgin as possible, that they will be cured of their Aids/HIV,.....not because some of their babies run arround naked, and are too aluring to resist,....
And I suspect 6 year old JonBonet didn't get murdered because of what she had on in some silly pagent,....as I said before a pedophile is attracted to children,....specifically pre pubescent children,....so to dress them up as a twenty year olds,...would if anything be a deterrent to a pedophile,....(not that I approve or would ever reccomend,...or condone it),....
but I could be wrong,.....
personally I think pagents of any kind,...of any age,...is just a huge waste of money and stupid,.... | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 8:13:58 PM | OpheliaBB, We are not alone a lot of people wondered the same thing. I doubt Jonbenet even realized her routine was sexy, it was not her own doing. I think when a parent does these kind of things it is asking for trouble.I agree with Vivid and you.
Marita B : Anytime a child or a woman dresses and makes suggestive actions and wears so much makeup you can hardy tell who they are, they are asking for trouble. As far as short skirts are concerned and asking to be raped no one said that,but you. But if you wear your short skirt to the point where nothing much is covered and your blouse is open 3 or 4 buttons yes, men get ideas pervert or not. What can you expect? You have it on display! Isn't that what Wh**res do!
edmguy: I was talking about the over blowing of all the news. That is what Paparazzi does. I, like others believe that it is wrong to have a child act and dress like a grown-up. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 8:47:40 PM | Have we not moved past this ludicrous idea yet???????sassymiss??????????????
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But if you wear your short skirt to the point where nothing much is covered and your blouse is open 3 or 4 buttons yes, men get ideas pervert or not. What can you expect? You have it on display! Isn't that what Wh**res do!?????????????
What can you expect?
What can I expect???????
well lets see,....we wear clothes today that a few years ago would have been outragious,....and a few years before that could have gotten you arrested,....
That's just a fact,....but I still I expect not to get raped,.....and then hear some stupid excuse like,...the man couldn't help himself,....give me a break,....
rape isn't about sex,..it never has been,....never will be,....
and sexual abuse of a child of 6 has nothing to do with being allured by the child,...
it has to do with the twisted hardwiring of the man in question,....that's it,....
and do I really have to say it again???????,....I guess I do
because it has been overlooked twice before,....
so for the last time,.....listen up!!!!!!
a man who is turned on by a six year old,....is turned on by a six year old,....
(that's the whole point to his particular perversion)
He's not turned on by a twenty year old,....nor a six year old
made up to look like a twenty year old,....
If I were to accept your line of thinking then we would all have to go back to the bathing suits they used to wear when you were 20,....and frankly,...I don't see that happening,...but this also doesn't mean that every woman,...on every beach is just asking for it,.... | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 8:59:28 PM | Marita, I heard your points but I'd hear your opinion a lot better if you didn't call my ideas "ludicrous" in turn.
And again, we just cannot compare "women on the beach wearing bikinis" or other revealing outfits to a 6 year old child.
The man arrested for murdering JonBenet has said that he loved her. Many other pedophiles believe they give their victims "love" they did not get at home. They are sexually attracted to children, and they don't think they're hurting them.
Pedophilia and rape are not the same things, and cannot be compared the way you are trying to.
OT: The alleged killer said he'd drugged JonBenet and didn't mean to kill her, but her autopsy showed no signs of drugs in her body. Polly Klaas' father said he believes this man is just saying anything to get extradited back to the US and not spend time in a Thai jail. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 9:09:57 PM | I was not referring to your ideas,...OpheliaBonBon,.....but actually to sassymiss,...
when she stated that by wearing short skirts what did I expect,....
you are right pedophilia and rape isn't the same thing,....except to say that in neither case,...it is the victims fault,....
and I too have heard other pedophiles say that they were in a consentual relationship,...with their victims,...which of course is in their mind only,....
The point that I was trying to make was that of the children that are sexually abused,...they are not the ones who are at fault for what is done to them,.....
A child who is dressed from head to toe is as easily a target as ones who aren't,....
as for the fact that he claims to have drugged her,...please note,...an autopsy's tox screen,...isn't screening for every drug possible,...unless they know what to look for it will not be tested,....
There are also some drugs which leave no tell tale signs,....so until he says what he's claiming he drugged her with,....we can't be certain (if it indeed was he who did this) that he didn't,...
Polly Klaas' father said he believes this man is just saying anything to get extradited back to the US and not spend time in a Thai jail.....and who knows,...he may be correct,....
I think we all will just have to wait and see,....
but if the DNA comes in a match,...I may just have to jump to the conclusion that he's the perp,.... | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 9:21:34 PM | You do make some really good points! I didn't think about drugs not covered by a typical tox screen. Thank you, marita, you really make me think about this subject.
We agree on the DNA match, for sure. That would do it for me, too.  | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 9:28:52 PM | OpheliaBB, I agree with your post. There are some drugs that don't show up in your blood like the date rape drug so I guess we will have to wait till they bring him back and test him for dna. I may get caught by the 2 in 10 but I will be back.Did you see the picture the psychic drew of the suspect back in the 90's.If not I will send you the url. It looks like him.
Morita, You listen up!! My way of thinking is called morals and modesty. There is nothing wrong with wearing shorts, bathing suits and short skirts and dresses. That is not what I was talking about and you know it. I stated that pretty plainly. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/19/2006 9:57:31 PM | Sasssy, I appreciate what you had to say as well. And yes, I would be very interested in seeing the skecth that a psychic came up with. Thank you!
I apologize for this off-topic post, but Sassy's email restrictions wouldn't allow me to contact her directly. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/20/2006 1:10:02 AM | ^^^^^^^^
yikes that is a close pic
I think the guy looks like a loonie
I also from day one thought it was tragic that anyone's parents would doll up their
6 yr old like that
It kinda seems like a really irresponsible thing to do in the first place | |
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vivid
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Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 133 | |
| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/20/2006 12:00:30 PM |
yikes that is a close pic
I think the guy looks like a loonie
Other people in this thread look like loonies (not referring to you, guitar). | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/20/2006 6:00:29 PM | Please keep to the subject. Which is "Justice for Jonbenet Ramsey?"You are supposed to be addressing the subject not attacking me and others.You were the one who mentioned short skirts. I don't appreicate you highjacking this thread. Back off, You made some good points and I appreicate your imput On the Subject not on me.I don't mind your posts just leave me out of them, Please.
OBB, I will change the settings so you can contact me about Jonbenet. WWW.crimelibrary.com/natorious_murders/famous/ramsey/epilogue_12html Picture of suspect can be seen here. | |
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| Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/20/2006 6:12:51 PM | | A pic that a "psychic" drew up is meaningless... funny how someone can be wrong 99% of the time but when they get it right or even close 1% of the time everyone says "ooohhhhoohh! she was right!".... what a pantload... | |
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