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 bob0colo

Joined: 4/9/2006
Msg: 161
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/21/2006 10:15:07 PM
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 edmguy

Joined: 4/30/2006
Msg: 162
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/21/2006 10:56:17 PM
the bottom line is that there will be no justice for jon benet... she is dead...convicting people via the media wont make it so... lets all wait till the truth comes out
 zuzus_petals

Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 163
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/22/2006 9:32:09 AM
The funny thing is the only one "convicting" anyone of anything is Karr himself. Most people (media included) do not seem to believe he did it. To insist that people presume him innocent until proven guilty seems a bit odd in this case considering he's the one saying he did. Most people are saying things don't add up and he's probably NOT the guy. The person saying he's guilty is Karr himself. I find it sickening that people are so protective of this guy yet were so willing to go after the Ramseys. Mr. Ramsey lost one daughter in a car accident prior to Jon Benet's death. He lost his wife. He lost his business. But let's pity the perv, right? It's a sick, sick world.

The one thing I will say, I'm not a huge fan of a person that possesses child pornography. I find it very interesting to listen to people say, "give this guy the benefit of the doubt, don't rake him over the coals" and yet people were so quick to convict the Ramseys of murdering their own daughter. This guy was a fugitive! Why? Child Pornography!!!!!!!!!! Oh yes, let's give some perv who enjoyed looking at little kids in sexual videos the benefit of the doubt because he DESERVES it. People want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but didn't want to do so for law-abiding, decent people like the Ramseys. Shame on society.

 onegreatm8

Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 164
Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/26/2006 8:39:43 AM
I like to see people who are in possession and distributes child pornography rot in a hole for the rest of their sorry lives after we finish with them let God worry about justice in another life
 anApplepear

Joined: 12/9/2005
Msg: 165
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 1:51:49 PM
The latest news say all charges on Karr been dropped as his DNA does not match the DNA found on Jonbenet. So this case is still unsolved and sad.

Don't know if they will charge Karr for making false statements or will just send him to a mental hospital for assessment. Knowing he could walk free on the street is quite scary, who knows if he is going to make a true crime just so that it is REAL.
 OpheliaBonMot

Joined: 8/12/2006
Msg: 166
Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 1:56:23 PM
I hope they send him back to Thailand to serve his time for the charges he was arrested for originally. Think they will?
 anApplepear

Joined: 12/9/2005
Msg: 167
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 2:06:00 PM
Oops! forgot about that Thailand. Yes, should send him back there but I don't think our government will unless Thailand press on it. I think Thailand will just let the case go for good.
 justanormalguy68

Joined: 11/19/2005
Msg: 168
Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 2:13:01 PM

Prosecutors drop case against Karr in JonBenet slaying
Associated Press

Boulder, Colo. — Prosecutors have decided not to charge John Mark Karr in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, his lawyers said Monday after a TV station reported that the schoolteacher's DNA failed to match genetic material on the six-year-old girl's body.

“The warrant on Mr. Karr has been dropped by the district attorney,” public defender Seth Temin said outside the jail. “They are not proceeding with the case.”

“We're deeply distressed by the fact that they took this man and dragged him here from Bangkok, Thailand, with no forensic evidence confirming the allegations against him and no independent factors leading to a presumption that he did anything wrong,” Mr. Temin said.

Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy's office did not return repeated calls from The Associated Press.

Mr. Karr was scheduled to make his first Colorado court appearance late Monday afternoon.

Denver's KUSA television station, citing two sources close to the investigation, said earlier that hair and saliva taken from Mr. Karr in Boulder after his arrival last week were tested over the weekend at the Denver police crime lab and that he was ruled out as the source of the DNA taken from the crime scene.

The schoolteacher's arrest in Thailand a week and a half ago was seen a surprise break in the decade-old murder mystery that had cast suspicion over JonBenet's parents. But inconsistencies in Mr. Karr's account immediately raised suspicions that he might be an obsessed follower of the case who confessed to a crime he didn't commit.

Among other things, Mr. Karr's relatives insisted that he was with them, celebrating Christmas in Georgia and Alabama, around the time the JonBenet Ramsey was found strangled and beaten at her Boulder home on Dec. 26, 1996. They said that if Mr. Karr had not been with his family at Christmas, they would have certainly remembered it.

In an interview with the media in Thailand, Mr. Karr said that he was with JonBenet when she died and that her death was an accident. Asked if he was innocent, he said no.

In an interview Monday with MSNBC, Gary Harris, who had been spokesman for the Mr. Karr family, did not directly confirm the KUSA report. But he said: “I knew it wouldn't match.”

Mr. Karr has been “obsessed with this case for a long time. He may have some personality problems, but he's not a killer,” Mr. Harris said. “He obsesses. He wanted to be a rock star one time. ... He's a dreamer. He's the kind of guy who wants to be famous.”


I suspected early on that he was not the real killer...too many inconsistencies in his story.
 OpheliaBonMot

Joined: 8/12/2006
Msg: 169
Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 2:16:58 PM
Oh my gosh, what a sick guy. So he gets to go back to schoolteaching, I suppose. Can't they charge him with fraud or something?
 Huggablehottie

Joined: 8/3/2006
Msg: 170
Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 2:49:12 PM
Of course, he did not do it, that was my feeling all along.
I strongly believe the parents had everything to do with it, and
they were protected.


And for anyone who thinks a little kid is sexually attractive, you should be shot!
 rev0218

Joined: 3/6/2006
Msg: 171
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 8:49:17 PM
The charges were dropped against Mr. Karr because the DNa did not match. The DNA also did not match any of the Ramsey family. I am pretty tired of the speculation about this case.The Ramseys showed bad judgment with this child but there is nothing to connect them with her death. I doubt if this case will ever be solved.
 sassymiss

Joined: 5/7/2006
Msg: 172
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 9:27:31 PM
I agree and I feel so bad for the Ramseys. Probably they were trying to get on with thier lives and then this waco brings it all back again. Things were probably getting a little hot for him there and he wanted a free ride home. I think they ought to make him pay for all the trouble he has caused. Crazy or crafty?
 edmguy

Joined: 4/30/2006
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/28/2006 11:22:31 PM
whatever... 99% of the people on here had him convicted.. and before that 99% of the people here had the Ramseys convicted..

Get a life and stop trying to be judge and juror....... you are not good at it...

idiots...
 vivid

Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 174
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Posted: 8/29/2006 12:01:51 AM
Hey, at least I didn't drag out those ridiculous psychic sketches....some
here (not gonna say who) thought he looked exactly like those
sketches
 Cavalier1968

Joined: 8/4/2006
Msg: 175
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/29/2006 7:10:56 AM
"Oh my gosh, what a sick guy. So he gets to go back to schoolteaching, I suppose. Can't they charge him with fraud or something?"

Karr still has to go back to California to face child pornography charges. Those charges were why he left the country in the first place. No way he goes back to teaching. Not even the California courts are goofy enough to let that happen.
 ][KAOS][

Joined: 2/24/2006
Msg: 176
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Posted: 8/29/2006 11:40:41 AM
Yes, he is being extradited to Sonoma County where he faces 5 charges of child pornography. They should lock him up and throw away the key, but I suspect this is far from the last we will hear about this sicko.
 vivid

Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 177
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Posted: 8/29/2006 11:47:50 PM
whatever... 99% of the people on here had him convicted.. and before that 99% of the people here had the Ramseys convicted..

Get a life and stop trying to be judge and juror....... you are not good at it...



In defence of those who attacked the dude; look, even YOU wouldn't
have this freak babysitting your children. Thailand....child pornography...
attempting to take credit of the murder of a child.

Society judges and so do you ("stop trying to be judge & juror....you are
not good at it...")....so, you think you're above passing
judgement on people? EVERYBODY judges regardless of how they
claim to despise "judgemental people" - it's a crock. That guy deserves
to be judged negatively....he's a freak.
 OpheliaBonMot

Joined: 8/12/2006
Msg: 178
Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/30/2006 12:24:15 AM
Definintely agree, Vivid. Karr became obsessed with this poor child and fantasized about killing her -- in one email he claimed to have "tasted her blood."

It's certainly hard to stay unbiased when you hear things like that.
 marita_b

Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 179
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/30/2006 9:06:08 AM
The good news is that California might never have caught up with him otherwise,...to face the 5 outstanding child pornography charges,....which is what took him out of the country in the first place,....so he shot himself in the foot by this outragious stunt,....

Hopefully the 5 families of the eledged victims, will finally get their own justice,........
so something good will hopefully come of this,....

good luck trying to find an unbiased jury though,...
 sassymiss

Joined: 5/7/2006
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Justice at last for Jonbenet Ramsey?
Posted: 8/30/2006 6:49:10 PM
Get a life and stop trying to be judge and juror....... you are not good at it...

idiots...

You have judged us, a jury of one, you, and found us guilty of being idiots.
Not nice to call names!
Most everyboby in this country has been talking about the case which is only nornal. Naturally they have opinions,as you do.
The dna tests have been taken on both the Ramseys and Karr and none match so we know that it can not be them. There is no dna in the system to match what was found. It has been ten years. I doubt we will ever know who did this horrible crime, unless someone confesses on thier death bed. My heart goes out to the Ramseys. May they find some kind of peace!
 pinebreeze

Joined: 2/6/2006
Msg: 181
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Posted: 8/30/2006 7:15:03 PM
Well... here we go again! it was fun for a while though, wasn't it. Having a perfect character like Karr to wail on. ha! I'm not judging any of you.... its what we all do.

All I know is what basic common sense would dictate. How the hell does someone break into your house on christmas eve.... somehow manage to subdue one of your children...take her to your basement for apparantly...hours and hours.... raping and eventually killing her...and writing an unheard of ransom 'book' for hours...., and not make a sound: not leave any signifigant evidence: Not show any serious break-in evidence?????? I say... it still stinks of an inside job somehow? If not..... then certainly, someone in the child pagant industry who knew Jonbennet
 JumpingRaindrops

Joined: 2/2/2006
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Posted: 8/31/2006 7:25:42 AM
Well, just as I figured - the arrest had "red herring" written all over it... http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0829-21.htm
 OpheliaBonMot

Joined: 8/12/2006
Msg: 183
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Posted: 8/31/2006 3:00:37 PM
On reflection, I think we would ALL have been happier with the "evil stranger" answer than the more troubling implications of her killer being either a family friend or family member. But I'm not quite ready to accept Karr as the fall guy for a plot to draw attention away from White House wrongdoings...just yet.
 ][KAOS][

Joined: 2/24/2006
Msg: 184
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Posted: 8/31/2006 3:36:10 PM
Hey, at least I didn't drag out those ridiculous psychic sketches....some
here (not gonna say who) thought he looked exactly like those
sketches

How true.. they are all quiet now hmmmm???? I never commmented on it at the time., but I didn't think that sketch looked anything like Karr. I never judged him guilty, but I did judge him as a sick ba*stard and I stick by that
 marita_b

Joined: 6/15/2005
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Posted: 8/31/2006 4:34:23 PM
they are all quiet now hmmmm????COMPLETEKAOS

fine,...it's a moot point but I still think it does look like him,....

so does my mail man,...so what,....I just said I found this interesting,...and I did,....I stand by what I have said in all these pages including let the DNA tell all,...and it did too,...

BTW,...technically the man that looked like the sketch,...this oh so creepy, nutburger,...(even though it was done by his own mouth) was involved indirectly in this case,....I wonder if the psycic would call that a hit,..or a miss,....just wondering,...not making any conclusions,....
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