| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 12:04:54 AM |
Perhaps the welfare system works differently in a socialist state.
Please Canadians: Feel free to explain!
no different than anywhere else...there are abusers and there are people who need it...and the ones that get screwed are the ones that really need it for a short time. The system does not work for the people who require it but will for the ones who decide ahhh what the heck I don't feel like working and have every excuse in the world to get away with it. It's the system that is f***ed just like WCB...alll the fakes keep getting it and the ones who are really injured get declined........ | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 12:07:20 AM | I not only would; I did. Sure, you had this problem, but not all welfare babes are the same. In my experience, most of them are on welfare because of circumstances that they couldn't control at the time, normally the birth of a child.
Whether a person is a welfare recepient or not has nothing to do with it. Some people, regardless of their circumstances, are more responsible than others. | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 12:12:19 AM | Just because I feel the need to continually post to the forums tonight, I'll add more here:
I'm not AGAINST the welfare system (at least the one in the US that I'm familiar with).
In THEORY its supposed to work to HELP GIVE PEOPLE A HAND WHEN THEY'VE EXPERIENCED HARD TIMES!! (I believe the original system was set up so that you weren't supposed to be on it for more than 2 years).
What I have a problem with is people that LIVE on the system and have continually DRAINED the system with GENERATIONS of system manipulation.
Even today, I don't look at ALL PEOPLE ON WELFARE as being BAD, but people that are "milking the system" are in effect ruining it for those that are honestly in need of the services of the welfare system!
Somewhere along the lines, welfare became SYNONYMOUS with BAD (probably in the 80s with Reaganomics and this idea of "welfare queens riding in cadillacs").
I for one have never actually "looked down" on" "those people", however I do have an opinion, and I'm sensible enough to realize that my opinion is very much clouded from the position of privilege under which I have experienced the world. I try my hardest to be open-minded, but at the same time, I'm not afraid to tell the truth!
AND THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS LOVE ME!     | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 12:15:18 AM | | welfare in america was put into legislature after world war 1(or 2?) to support widows of soldiers. its amazing to see what an ugly spiderweb it has evolved into | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 12:22:47 AM | | All in all there are abusers and there are ligitimate cases. I think that for the most part this thread has brought out,(because of the question) a negative response to welfare people. We all know there are circumstances, but way to many people take advantage of the system and the ones who really need it won't get it even for a short time. They make it difficult for the honest people...the ones who work most of their lives and need a little help. It's just like WCB, I see it everyday at work. The ones who are always on it and it's a lot of bullshit... And then I see the ones at work who are ligitimately hurt and they get turned down and sent back to work hurt. BULLSHIT...the system is screwed and it's not fair to the ones who really need it. There u have it...that's what it is like in Canada. | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 12:24:28 AM | In Canada here we are seeing 3rd and 4th generation welfare cases. They were brought up being taught they would be looked after by the State, and they are.
Some small towns have welfare offices and a single welfare officer in it. In the town where I was raised, NO males were allowed to collect welfare IF they could work. The welfare officer would offer them 10 bucks an hour sweeping the streets. IF they said "No", sorry....you turned down a job, therefore you disqualified yourself for welfare benefits. PErhaps big cities could use the same tactics. Many streets need cleaning there, and parks too. It would be cheaper than paying union wages and benefits to the gov't workers.
I have dated women on welfare. Some are on it cause minimum wage doesn't cut it. the benefits on welfare are better than many low pay jobs offer.
There was a case in Toronto where a woman earning 30 thou a year quit her job to go on welfare to spend more time with her daughter.
There was the "Work-fare" rogram tried....you hade to work cleaning beaches up or something in order to collect. Some guy living out in Nova Scotia said "No way! Cleaning beaches has nothing to do with MY trade, therefore I won't do it, gimme my cheques!" The courts made sure he DID get those cheques too....and there was little or no call for his "trade" in that area. Perhaps a gov't sponsored "move" of him and his household to a better employable location would have saved the taxpayer a lot. | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 12:48:08 AM | And I thank my lucky stars I don't have to be one of those honest people walking up to the welfare counter to be laughed at because I could use a short hand and turned away.....THE SYSTEM has made a mock out of the honest ones... | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 5:27:45 AM | | well i wont date someone who is on welfare i work hard for a living and im fed up with some people who sucks the system spend the money on booze drugs and smokes they have kids cause the more kids you have the more money you get i know this girl she is on welfare and spends her time in her room and the house is a real mess letting the kids destroy the house this was one of my nephews friends hes 13 years old the kid doesnt have any discipline he always wants to fight and he is obese for a 13 year old at least my nephew is a martial artist and very muscular and his parents work hard to give him stuff that he needs and also they dont neglect him at all i know some needs it hey im all for it some sees me with designer stuff ( i have no kids) they say wow your rich i tell them thats what you get when you work if i had a child the child would get everything it needs i would put myself last cause i seen some kids wearing torn up clothes while mom and dad wearing the latest tommy hilfiger style its like think of your kids first | |
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gilgo
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Joined: 3/11/2005
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 6:05:48 AM | | my ex was on welfare and had a kid, and welfare does pay for her bills in her apartment, but does not pay for anything else, her mother buys her food, and her kid food, its wrong, but in todays world its hard finding jobs that all that people do is say ' i give up i cant do it' but remember also.....these days lol you might need a masters to work at mcDonalds | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 6:43:20 AM | Warning: playing devils advocate.
It never ceases to amaze me that when this subject comes up, no one mentions that, if men kept there pants zipped up, there could be no career welfare moms, could there? How about the subject of dead beat dads that run around populating the world and won’t keep a constantly change jobs to try and get out of child support. Or how about the male equivalent of welfare (prison.) “Gee, I think instead of working I’ll run out and commit some petty crime so the government can pay $30,000 a year to take care of me while all the women I’ve impregnated can live on $9,000 a year, plus they pay all my legal fees.” Gee, maybe if we put a $9,000 a year cap on what we are willing to spend for prisoners and saved our selves $21,000 a year, we would have a lot fewer men signing up for that free ride. And maybe we could even make them repay the court costs they incur. Over simplified, prejudice, biased, maybe, but since so many are willing to jump on the blame wagon, why the h… not. Really people, think about it, if we just taught men to be responsible for there own sexuality, like many of the men on this site are, how many problems could be eliminated in society. | |
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gilgo
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Joined: 3/11/2005
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 6:50:18 AM | | lol spend time researching on this, yea alot of it has to do with men, the kind that use women for sex, mess up and leave the girl and kid, and look who has to raise the kid, the mother, and she is not gonna do it and have a job at the same time, thus for the wonderful career of welfare hops in,. | |
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gilgo
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Joined: 3/11/2005
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 6:55:42 AM | | yea i have pondered that thought, that alot of women too just want kids and strap the guy down, it does happen alot... i dont understand that? is it security that they could never find someone better or is it they want kids so bad they find a the closet guy to them, its kinda sick if you think about it | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 7:16:25 AM | | If you keep your pants zipped up, how the h... is anyone going to trap you? And that's not to mention the use of birth control, which men are perfectly capable of doing. Please, get a better excuse than that crap, it's old and dated. | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 7:21:30 AM | OK, quick response before work.
As far as prision goes, I agreee, they shouldnt get a free ride. I personally believe if you commit a crime thats breaks our laws. You should therefore no longer have protection under them. None of this unjust punishment BS. If you kill someone and are convicted you have just thrown your own life to the wind IMO. I think all prisoners should be REQUIRED to work HARD DANGEROUS JOBS at NO PAY. maybe they will think twice about commiting crimes then.
And as far as the Men leaving women with children. Yes sad but true. I think they should all be castrated. If you cant take responsibility for your actions, then We are a society have a responsibility to see you dont even have to handle that again. I do understand Young men sometimes just dont know any better. But BE A MAN!!!! If I get a girl pregnant. Then My kid will have everything I can give them.
And as far as women strapping men down with pregnancy? If I dont wanna be with the girl, and she drops the pregnancy bomb (which I will try and avoid as much as possible, IE paying for birth control, condoms, etc) BUT if she does do this to GET ME. I will call a lawyer. Save up the money for an abortion. and Tell her Get an abortion at my cost or dont ask me for a d*mn thing. Yes this is not very "Manly" But neither is being "Strapped to a ****" but then again I will only do this if I have taken all measures to prevent said occurence. If she was slacking on her end then her fault. | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 7:23:34 AM | | Oh and the last part. I will not support her, But I will support my kid of the abortion can not be forced. AND I will support my kid by buying all his needed items. I will NOT give her any CASH. | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 7:26:44 AM | | i had tons of chanced to trap a man (would be a mom by now) but im not and it was my choice besides i dont want to be tied to my ex's lol | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 7:54:34 AM | | there was this guy i know put him proffession as a business owner turned out hes on welfare he was blocked asap i dont want to support a man | |
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| Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 7:56:53 AM | I would date soem on Wellfare or some one reiceiving SSI,
You see I only look at three things Ohnesty, Integraty and the abillity to o tell the truth,
many of us can become a wellfai recipeient in aheart Beat any one of us could be in an accident that could cause us to lose work. Many of them have no other option, but if shes using the system not only will I dump her but, I'll report her in a heart beat.
i am on SSI, through things that have happend, I know what its like to be Judged as a third rate So and so, but, Its a fight to get out of that hole once your in it.
to me a woamn is more than just waht one makes monitarily, she's more than wahts on the out side. just because there on welfare doesn't mean that there strung out on drugs..some times Its the **** ex Husband not paying the child support like he's supose to that puts here there.
Why is it Money has to always be an issue when it comes to a realtionship.
Money can come and go like the wind blows form east to west adn dissapear with out a trace.
what about romance, true Love, finding the beauty of a woman with in her soul?
Perhaps waht I am speaking of is just a pipe dream....
But, this I do know, it makes do difference if the person has a million or is as poor and meek as a church mouse, if she has a true heart and a true love, then the 2 have something that out weighs everything else becuase if that love is true, it will out last anything.
but in my past espiereinces, I have dated a judges daughter and she was mean and cruel and vicouse, and she was wealthy, I have dated one who was on SSI and she too was mean ruthless and vicouse, to the point well, I can't share that here, so to me, it make no difference waht er the nationality, or monitary status. If she is a good woamn, then she is good, if she is bad then she is bad.
Money.....gese...its a foolish hting to argue over, when marreid, its for all to share...I am tired of waht is known as the ME ME ME genteration.
like them Blarney Seagles on finding Nemo ..mine mine mine...well, i said my 2 cents worth. | |
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