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 In Your Dreams

Joined: 12/1/2005
Msg: 85
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 12/5/2005 9:20:53 PM
Jehovah's Witnesses, no matter how well meaning, are missing the gospel that Jesus is the Christ and the only savior, therefore they are a cults, which has been around since the days of Jesus. False cults like Scientology and JW lead people astray and quite possibly lead them into damnation by leading them to a false salvation. God bless all JW and help them get out of JW and get into a Bible believing evangelical, conservative church.
 j-roc

Joined: 5/24/2005
Msg: 86
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 12/5/2005 9:26:12 PM
She is not deleted....but she hasn't posted for awhile.
 NORBZ1

Joined: 11/22/2005
Msg: 87
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Posted: 12/6/2005 4:37:05 AM
Growing up I had heard continuously on how the JWs were a cult, they are fanatics and doomsayers. I finally decided to learn of them first hand, so in the mid 80's I studied with them in my home and at the Kingdom Hall. I had them in my home at least once a week and we studied out of that little red book, and their bible. Well, I should say their interpretation of the Holy Bible.

I stuck with the studies for quite a while, but no matter how much I studied, or listen to their beliefs, their logic escaped me. Do I believe they are doomsayers? Yes. I also was never comfortable of the structuring of their organization and how predominant it was to be in my day to day life.

Are they a cult? Some people tend to believe that anything out of the mainstream of Christianity is a cult. I have not seen how their beliefs overtly preach hate or harm to others, so even though I cannot accept their teachings, I also cannot label them. They are
an easy target of ridicule, just as all religious and spiritual beliefs have been over the ages.
 creationhouse

Joined: 1/7/2006
Msg: 88
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 6/13/2006 8:00:03 PM
You are wrong on one at least one of your scripture quotes (verse 6). Did not check the others. (KJV) Philipians 2:5,6 says: "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus. Who, being in the form of God, thought in not robbery to be equal with God." So this verse is verifying that Jesus, did indeed, claim to be God, and equal with God. This, of course is Christianities foundation, the deity of Christ, His sinlessness, and of course His death, burial and resurrection - His atonement for our sins.
 creationhouse

Joined: 1/7/2006
Msg: 89
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 6/13/2006 8:00:58 PM
oops... thought IT not robbery to be equal with God...
 pilotdreams

Joined: 5/1/2006
Msg: 90
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 6/16/2006 12:06:16 AM
Maybe we should all learn hebrew and greek, then nothing would get lost in translation.
 ~-~GEM~-~

Joined: 11/16/2005
Msg: 91
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 6/16/2006 9:15:40 PM
I'm not going to quote hebrew or greek but I do pose a question?

What are the roots of JWism? I did some reading a way back when my brother converted and I certainly couldn't find anything earth shattering. I think the guy that started it started out selling miracle wheat and when he was found out, turned to religion.

Anything that restricts who you associate with, what you do with your resources or spare time, and who you may marry means you are in some kind of cult.. christian or not?

Indoctrination into cults is easy.. I have heard JW's prey upon uneducated isolated people while the Mormons tend to focus on the professional people.
 callwilliam2

Joined: 6/4/2005
Msg: 93
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Posted: 7/7/2008 8:33:39 AM
Well, it is true that JW's do not engage in the literal killing of people. However, they are well know for "religious character assassination". And therein lies the real problem that JW's confront in the form persecution. However, it must be remembered that the bad reputation that they have earned for being critical of other religions is there own doing and not the doing of other religious organizations.

When the "Finished Mystery" was published, a bunch of them were thrown in jail, and probably for a good cause, namely, to maintain the peace and to restrict them from spreading fear in the form of lies.

What I find difficult with the JW's is that they do not accept "understandings" that are different from their own. Understandings different from the society's understanding produces a conflict of interest for the society. Sometimes they like to refer to an understanding different from their own as "apostasy".

But as soon as a person or religion is labeled "apostate" by JW's, isn't "freedom of religion" called into question?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (Amendment 1)

Well, if Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, then who shall prevent a person from spreading lies under the clock of "religion", "Society", or some other identity?

Conflict is all about struggle between opposing forces for victory or dominance. The declaration of independence, for example, was a settlement of conflict between the opposing forces of America and the British Crown. The intent of the founding Fathers of this country was to be "free" from the dominance of British rule.

Let JW's humbly recall the 4th of July and that it means "freedom of religion" for them as well as "freedom of religion" for all U.S. Citizens. The U.S. Constitution is the Supreme Law of this land.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. (Article VI)
 gxsr600

Joined: 7/3/2008
Msg: 94
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Posted: 7/7/2008 9:10:24 AM
false teachers and decievers
 callwilliam2

Joined: 6/4/2005
Msg: 95
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Posted: 7/7/2008 9:24:46 AM
Well, it is true that JW's do not engage in the literal killing of people. However, they are well know for "religious character assassination". And therein lies the real problem that JW's confront in the form of persecution. However, it must be remembered that the bad reputation that they have earned for being critical of other religions is there own doing and not the doing of other religious organizations.

When the "Finished Mystery" was published, a bunch of them were thrown in jail, and probably for a good cause, namely, to maintain the peace and to restrict them from spreading fear in the form of lies.

What I find difficult with the JW's is that they do not accept "understandings" that are different from their own. Understandings different from the society's understanding produces a conflict of interest for the society. Sometimes they like to refer to an understanding different from their own as "apostasy".

But as soon as a person or religion is labeled "apostate" by JW's, isn't "freedom of religion" called into question?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (Amendment 1)

Well, if Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, then who shall prevent a person from spreading lies under the clock of "religion", "Society", or some other identity?

Conflict is all about struggle between opposing forces for victory or dominance. The declaration of independence, for example, was a settlement of conflict between opposing forces of America and the British Crown. The intent of the founding Fathers of this country was to be "free" from the dominance of British rule.

Let JW's humbly recall the 4th of July and that it means "freedom of religion" for them as well as "freedom of religion" for all U.S. Citizens. The U.S. Constitution is the Supreme Law of this land.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. (Article VI)

"Thus saith Jehovah God to the clergy..." (Finished Mystery, Chapter 34, page 533)

But the truth is that Jehovah God did not say anything to the clergy. The writers of the "Finished Mystery" book would have us believe that Jehovah God had something to say to the clergy through the "Watchtower Society." But is this in accord with reality? Is the "Finished Mystery" an outright work of fiction?
 romanticoptimist

Joined: 10/1/2007
Msg: 96
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Posted: 7/7/2008 10:16:47 AM
I'll only respond to one of the three identical posts.

Though pacifists, they do engage in "religious character assassination",which could be considered a form of violence? Agreed if "some" is inferred, and "all" is not.

They have a "bad reputation"? Agreed. Same caveat.

I didn't know about the "Finished Mysteries" so I appreciate the info. I found a Wikipedia article that states that after its publication in1917, because of its criticism of Christian involvement in war, the US government indicted and jailed the board for 20 years under the Espionage Act (in 1919 that judgement as reversed and they were released). They were charged again in 1919 but those charges were dropped. Were they jailed for a "good cause"? Well, yes, if having unfavourable religious views and expressing them is "good cause". But were they jailed for "just cause" should be the question.

They lack understanding of groups unlike them and sometimes refer to it as "apostasy"? So they are myopic, insular, and elitist. Agreed.

Anyway, here's the crux of the matter. Does Freedom of Religion (and Thought, and Ideas, and Expression, and Speech only extend to those who are "agreeable" or "tolerant" or is it a "freedom" granted to all? I think I can categorically state that they are free to believe what they want, express it how they see fit, and be disagreeable and unpopular in doing so. Any attempt to restrict their rights must be scrutinised and defended.

Well, if Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, then who shall prevent a person from spreading lies under the clock of "religion", "Society", or some other identity?

Nobody. that's the point. They can say whatever they want. If it's slander or libel they can be sued for it. If it is inflammatory and a call to riot or do harm or injure others, they can be charged for it. But simply telling "lies" isn't against the law (except in the case of a police investigation, perjury, and such).

By the way, the Declaration of Independence was not a "settlement of conflict" between British and those Colonists opposed to British Rule. It was a declaration that they would not be subject to British rule and would oppose Britain. If anything it was a "declaration" of war.

It's a quite simple matter. Either the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is the "law of the land" for all or it's not. The moment you encroach upon another's freedoms because you find them unpleasant, you allow that another can encroach upon yours for the same reason. It is when we are faced with the most unpleasant and disagreeable foe that we find whether we support these basic human rights for humans or only for humans like us.
 callwilliam2

Joined: 6/4/2005
Msg: 97
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Posted: 7/7/2008 11:52:27 AM
(KJV) Philipians 2:5,6 says: "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus. Who, being in the form of God, thought in not robbery to be equal with God."

(LOL) Let me think for a minute.

(1) "[You - subject] Let this mind be in you"

Whose mind are we talking about? How does your mind or another mind be in my mind? (LOL)

(2) "which was also in Christ Jesus"

So Paul or whoever wants some mind that was in Jesus Christ to be in my mind (or at least in the mind of the Philipian church)

(3) "Who"

What a minute! Is mind a part of Jesus Christ?

(4) "being in the form of God"

What form are we talking about? Does God have a form? Was Paul referring to Plato's Theory of Forms which comes out of Greek culture?

(5) "thought it not robbery to be equal to God"

Now we have a mind, a form, and a thought. But in order for one "to have used the powers of the mind to conceive ideas or draw inferences (thought)", one must have a mind to do so. Also "idea" basically means "what is formed in the mind."

My last question is: Why would I or anyone have the thought of being equal to God? Why would Paul want you or me or anyone to have that thought?
 Raveninns

Joined: 7/19/2005
Msg: 98
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Posted: 7/8/2008 3:47:49 AM

Why would I or anyone have the thought of being equal to God? Why would Paul want you or me or anyone to have that thought?


Cos Jesus Himself stated in exasperation "Don't ye know ye are gods?". S'cuse the paraphrasing. Also reminded why He said that, something about the performance of miracles and His assertion that anyone could do it.

And in reference to Paul, hmmm, what does he have to do with anything? Christianity is built on the understanding of Paul, who never met Jesus? Doesn't matter, according to Christ, he's a god too. As you are, as am I.

The foolishness of it all.

Cheers, Raven
 Sunniebelle

Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 99
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Posted: 8/17/2008 9:53:16 AM
I studied with & was baptized in Jehovah's Witness's back in the early 80's. It was a tough time in my life. They were so dedicated & helpful, even gave my son & I a place to live with one of the elders. The wife had health problems and I helped with the house,cooking etc.
Their son & daughter -in-law were our "teachers". They were "grooming" my son,10 yrs. old and he even gave readings at the pulpit. We went door to door 2 times a week.
The peer pressure is intense. My family were devastated. My Mother found a couple who had left and were helping other people to realize they did not have the "Truth'.
I asked for a meeting with the elders to answer questions I had. There were about 8 of them that met with me. Their ony response was for me to throw away the King James Bible & all other info. I had been reading. Also, to not have contact with my family.
And to only read the JW books & magazines, and not discuss my doubts with any other members. From my closeness with my "teachers",I learned 1 was an active alcoholic and another smoked.
When I did not "come around", I was disfellowshipped. Afterwards I would see my former "brothers & sisters" at the grocery. They would actually turn around and go the other way.
For years I had dreams about Jehovah destroying the wicked. They were so frightening that in my dream I would start saying the Lord's Prayer. Anytime I moved to a new residence within a week or so my "teacher" wife would show up at my door. As soon as I opened the door,she would turn & almost run from my door.
I am now considered an apostate,equal to satan. I have no chance of forgiveness etc.
IF!! I wanted to return I could only repent to the "elders" & be counseled by them. I would have to sit at the back of the kingdom hall & no one could talk to me or acknowledge me in any way.
It's taken me many years to get over my fear of condemnation and for the dreams to stop. They no longer show up at my door.
I tried other churches but could not handle the hypopcrisy etc.
Only through prayer & meditation and reading the Bible and other books have I gotten over the "brainwashing".
I now go to "Search for God" classes, backed by the teachings of Edgar Cayce & the Assoc. for Research & Enlightenment. The book "There is a River" is a good place to start. What is taught rings true for me and answers so many questions about life. I highly recommend it for anyone "searching" for the meaning and purpose of our lives.
Anyone interested may contact me.
Have a beautiful,fulfilling life.
Debi
 skypoetone

Joined: 3/24/2005
Msg: 100
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/17/2008 5:30:15 PM
^^^Sunniebelle, what you suffered was pure psychological damage and that is a most cruel thing to live with... I know your hurt because I've been there so when someone asks me about hell I say this is one kind you never want to experience…

These people, and other cults, believe they have a God-given right to manipulate people. I can only hope that one day eyes will be opened and practises like this flushed out of our society.
 Platojag

Joined: 4/8/2008
Msg: 101
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/17/2008 5:44:04 PM
The reason we have a lot off war in this world (besides the desire for power, wealth & control of oil) is due to an inability for the larger part of the world's population not to be able to "agree to disagree". If any religion/spirituality/etc. is not posing any direct threat to people's lives (or their own.. re: Jim Jones & the Kool-Aid days) then we should all just accept each other for being different, shake hands, and go talk about another subject, if we can't discuss things peacefully. Ya think?

I know..., you are all going to probably say, "But.., this is just a forum... We ARE just talking about it peacefully..", right? Well, after my breif, but educating experiences here the last few months, I am seeing more "word rage" (i.e: road rage on the super highway) than I am any reasonable discussion about things. Can we not just talk about how we are going to FIX the World, instead of what we see wrong with it? JW's have as much right as any other religion to express themselves. I don't personally agree with their beliefs, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, either.
 TheStefano

Joined: 6/15/2008
Msg: 102
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/17/2008 10:42:01 PM
I was married to a JW and studied with them, etc. for a couple of years.

The ex was a nutjob, but I met some of the sweetest, kindest people I've ever known in that congregation and I have nothing but good things to say about it.

They are probably the least corrupt and flaky of the other "Christian" religions out there.

Christianity is the practice of "neighbor love"........caritas. It's a very different kind of love than the preferential love of friends, family and lovers because it is commanded and a duty. What the JWs do with the "good news" is from that sense of duty, so yes, the elders expect that. And one is a Christian only to the extent that they practice caritas....... what you DO, not say.

Disfellowshipping is usually NOT taken lightly or given lightly, a person is given plenty of opporunity to avoid it. It's their way of keeping the congregations clean and I am sure, in some, it is abused.........people are human.

Anyway, it takes some balls to spend every Saturday out there in the community and people who sit on their asses and judge them.........try the mirror if you want to judge.
 skypoetone

Joined: 3/24/2005
Msg: 103
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/18/2008 2:34:11 PM
Anyway, it takes some balls to spend every Saturday out there in the community and people who sit on their asses and judge them.........try the mirror if you want to judge.

I don't personally judge people from the JW's, some of them are wonderful people, my mother was one until she died and my younger sister still is, I believe... and that's it, I can only BELIEVE she still is, because she makes no move to any of her siblings. I was the last one she spoke to 15 years ago!

NO, I don't judge people for what they believe but I sure take offence at anyone believing they are better than me. If separatism sounds good to you the JW's will entertain you, they are past masters at that.
 Fashen

Joined: 8/2/2008
Msg: 104
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/21/2008 2:38:47 PM


Want to become a Jehovah's Witness? Here are the true facts about what your life will be like. All these facts can be documented from their own literature.

1. BE PREPARED to believe that JW's alone are of God. All other religions, in fact, all non-JW's are of the devil. No exceptions.

2. BE PREPARED to become an extremely negative person, except about the Watchtower organization, where you will have to be extremely positive. (No criticism allowed).

3. BE PREPARED to give your entire patriotic feelings to the Watchtower (WT) organization. since you will not be able to serve in any branch of the armed forces, or work as a civilian on any base. All employment must meet with WT approval .

4. BE PREPARED to never again salute the flag, or stand for a national anthem, or express nationalistic feelings of any kind.

5. BE PREPARED to no longer vote, or have political opinions. Condemnation of all (except the WT) is the order of the day.

6. BE PREPARED at work. If your job involves confidentiality, such as employment in a doctor's or lawyer's office, you will be expected to break that confidentiality to report on any JW patient to the elders. (Example, an unmarried JW woman may want birth control pills etc. ). Innocent employers have been sued.

7. BE PREPARED to forget about having a normal childhood for your children. They will be expected to set their sights on a life of full-time service to the Watchtower Organization. They will practice all their growing-up years, by sitting quietly at the meetings five times a week with you, and accompanying you as you knock on doors with the WT's literature.

8. BE PREPARED to forbid or discourage your children from the following activities after-school sports, having non-JW friends as playmates, joining the YM/YWCA, school dances, voting in school elections, all dating, except for JW 's, and then only if marriage is intended.

9. BE PREPARED to forbid the doctors from administering a life-saving blood transfusion to your child or yourself. Vaccinations and organ transplants were forbidden at one time too, but the WT often changes its mind. Wouldn't it be a shame if you allowed your child to die, and then the WT changed its policy? Many have had this experience already.

10. BE PREPARED to defend the WT Organization about its false prophecies. It has set the date for the end of the world for 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, the 1940's, 1975. Armageddon is now expected "any moment", but don't be too sure, with their track record. Incidentally, their doctrines change regularly too, so don't become too convinced too fast. It's called "new light".

11. BE PREPARED to lie in court, under oath, if called upon to do so by your elders. If you and your minor children are involved in a child custody case, your children too will be coached by the JW elders to misrepresent their lifestyle under oath. After all, the court system is under the influence of the devil, so its okay--perjury and fraud not withstanding!

13. BE PREPARED to really hate everything but the WT Organization, and especially hate anyone who has the nerve to up and leave. (the dreaded "apostates"). There is no honorable way out of the WT organization. Not only will you be expected to shun and ignore anyone leaving (even family members), but the literature directs you:

"We must hate in the truest sense, which is to regard with extreme and active aversion, to consider as loathsome, odious filthy, to detest."

[qoute]

I don't hate anyone. These people are clearly going overboard.
 Fashen

Joined: 8/2/2008
Msg: 105
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/21/2008 2:39:10 PM


Want to become a Jehovah's Witness? Here are the true facts about what your life will be like. All these facts can be documented from their own literature.

1. BE PREPARED to believe that JW's alone are of God. All other religions, in fact, all non-JW's are of the devil. No exceptions.

2. BE PREPARED to become an extremely negative person, except about the Watchtower organization, where you will have to be extremely positive. (No criticism allowed).

3. BE PREPARED to give your entire patriotic feelings to the Watchtower (WT) organization. since you will not be able to serve in any branch of the armed forces, or work as a civilian on any base. All employment must meet with WT approval .

4. BE PREPARED to never again salute the flag, or stand for a national anthem, or express nationalistic feelings of any kind.

5. BE PREPARED to no longer vote, or have political opinions. Condemnation of all (except the WT) is the order of the day.

6. BE PREPARED at work. If your job involves confidentiality, such as employment in a doctor's or lawyer's office, you will be expected to break that confidentiality to report on any JW patient to the elders. (Example, an unmarried JW woman may want birth control pills etc. ). Innocent employers have been sued.

7. BE PREPARED to forget about having a normal childhood for your children. They will be expected to set their sights on a life of full-time service to the Watchtower Organization. They will practice all their growing-up years, by sitting quietly at the meetings five times a week with you, and accompanying you as you knock on doors with the WT's literature.

8. BE PREPARED to forbid or discourage your children from the following activities after-school sports, having non-JW friends as playmates, joining the YM/YWCA, school dances, voting in school elections, all dating, except for JW 's, and then only if marriage is intended.

9. BE PREPARED to forbid the doctors from administering a life-saving blood transfusion to your child or yourself. Vaccinations and organ transplants were forbidden at one time too, but the WT often changes its mind. Wouldn't it be a shame if you allowed your child to die, and then the WT changed its policy? Many have had this experience already.

10. BE PREPARED to defend the WT Organization about its false prophecies. It has set the date for the end of the world for 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, the 1940's, 1975. Armageddon is now expected "any moment", but don't be too sure, with their track record. Incidentally, their doctrines change regularly too, so don't become too convinced too fast. It's called "new light".

11. BE PREPARED to lie in court, under oath, if called upon to do so by your elders. If you and your minor children are involved in a child custody case, your children too will be coached by the JW elders to misrepresent their lifestyle under oath. After all, the court system is under the influence of the devil, so its okay--perjury and fraud not withstanding!

13. BE PREPARED to really hate everything but the WT Organization, and especially hate anyone who has the nerve to up and leave. (the dreaded "apostates"). There is no honorable way out of the WT organization. Not only will you be expected to shun and ignore anyone leaving (even family members), but the literature directs you:

"We must hate in the truest sense, which is to regard with extreme and active aversion, to consider as loathsome, odious filthy, to detest."

[qoute]
source: http://mmoutreachinc.com/jehovahs_witnesses/why_jw_call.html


I don't hate anyone. These people are clearly going overboard.
 Pisk

Joined: 6/17/2008
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Posted: 8/22/2008 2:13:53 AM
I dont like any form of chrstianity at all...How a group of people can let their children die for the sake of a blood trnasfusion is just too odd. They dont like killing therefore they dont hunt? Are they all vegetairian? So its ok for someone else to do the dirty work they just reap the benefits?

Just a thought...
 Hagars

Joined: 4/20/2008
Msg: 107
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/22/2008 4:36:59 AM

They are probably the least corrupt and flaky of the other "Christian" religions out there

They have a sex offender registry numbering around 23000 in the USA, wont turn over what they know to police, advise victims to not talk to police. I'm not sure if they've changed this but it takes two separate reports of sexual abuse before anything is done, some say people caught abusing inside the JW's have been seen active in other communities as a JW.

I debate with a mate who was brought up as a JW, has gone back a few times, he has just come out of the organization and its shocking what they are preaching today.
In a nutshell all wars, climate change and economic downfall is the work of jehovah slowly introducing his Armageddon, the only ones Jehovah wont destroy according to them is those true to the JW way.
Once the cull has happened control of the world will be handed to the JW's by Jehovah.

I had an Elder on my door once, I asked him about their interpretation of the family unit which after you debate all its components the male makes the decisions and is head of the family, in Australia we have a sports minister who's young and Beautiful. I asked him what happens if I marry her, why should she who is very successful and very intelligent have to abide by what I say?
He could not answer.
The watchtower magazine which they claim as Jehovah's words stated the Rwandan Massacre was Satan trying to destroy JW missionaries, apparently thanks to Jehovah's protection the missionaries were hard to nab so Satan stated killing everything that moved in the belief that the more he killed the more likely he was to get the odd JW.

My friend was encourage to read any and every JW literature he could, he did and got concerned over the changes in policy and the amount of times Armageddon has been starting since 1915,Sometimes even within 12 months was stated. He was then told to only read the latest literature and did not have his concerns addressed in any way.

Forgetting global warming which they wish not to stop JW's are harmless towards our community,democracy and safety at this point, however during a time in WWI they were not and duely The Americans recognised this and acted.Hopefully they remain harmless but hoping is a risk.
 Diva_31

Joined: 6/24/2008
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Posted: 8/22/2008 7:55:49 AM
I was on the way to church to perform for a Saturday afternoon wedding (I'm the organist/music director). On the way, my friend and I ran into a young family. They were JW who were recruiting people for their new "organization". I said sorry, I'm on the way to my church. And they still asked me to join theirs. I pointed to my pentagram that I had around my neck and said. Though I work in a church, I do not follow organized religion. They woman sure grabbed her children away in a hurry when she saw my medallion... lol
 Rosalund

Joined: 4/5/2008
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Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/22/2008 9:38:41 PM
I have read some of this thread but not all........ When will all the hate end. Each of us should take a look in the mirror and remove the plank from our own eye before getting the splinter out of our brother/or sisters...........and yes JWs are your brothers&sisters in God's eyes.
What if when all who are on earth today die/....and we see God & He says you all had it wrong about Me!....But I love you still you my children.
 sassyaquarius

Joined: 4/10/2006
Msg: 110
Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted: 8/22/2008 10:15:34 PM
^^^ Awww! I totally agree :)

I used to have a certain view of the JW's because of the limited information.. and really, lets just call it what it was, ignorant views I possessed at the time. So after learning that my aunt and her children decided to be a part of this religion, I looked into it a little more. I ordered one of their books, which I must say was pretty darned good and this of course was an unspoken invitation for them to come to my door. I still have one lady who drops by occasionally to bring me the literature because she knows I like it, but I have made myself clear that conversion aint happening here, lol... she seems to respect that even though she thinks I am still "searching" lol...

Also, last year while camping I met this amazingly fabulous family... they were all so close and warm with each other... and they all had such a non-judgmental and loving view of the world, it was beautifully inspiring truth be told!

To me there is a nugget of truth within all paths and I like to collect, not exclude them :)
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