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 steven607331

Joined: 8/6/2006
Msg: 26
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Posted: 8/27/2006 4:41:39 PM
3 women hanging out together would probably mean it's girls night out and the last thing they want is to be hit on, and if your all attractive, we would assume that your all unavailable anyway. so the odds aren't exactly stacked in our favor.
 guynamejeff

Joined: 7/14/2006
Msg: 27
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Posted: 8/27/2006 4:46:11 PM

she will go on the dance floor and dance and sometimes I like to sit and watch people dance so it easy that way for a guy to approach when the road is clear.


This is what gives me the most confidence. Please do this when I am around.

There is nothing worse than gathering all of your courage to approach someone and then having to stand their like an idiot while they finish what they were saying to one another.
 Lord Dave

Joined: 11/25/2005
Msg: 28
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Posted: 8/27/2006 5:58:55 PM
All the guys here seem to hit the nail on the head.

Body Language and Groups.

I know when I usually go out, there will be a large group of guys standing outside the dance floor watching all the girls dance with eachother. They wait for someone to give them some kind of signal to start, which is probably what the girls are doing.
Me, I just go out there and go nuts all by my self. I try to get close when possible and dance if they show intrest in having me near. Usually it's very direct. (ie. they move away quickly if they don't want to)
 Nos800

Joined: 7/12/2006
Msg: 29
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Posted: 8/27/2006 6:10:42 PM
Because it's hard for guys to be Guys anymore....

Kind of a damn'd if we do damn'd if we don't kinda thing and 3 good looking girls in a bar can be intimitadating. I mean normally one girl won't go up to one guy much less 3. You will most likelly get the "Drunk" guy who is hitting on everything.
Your best bet is go out and dance smile and wave a guy out to dance with you. Yes it may be blunt but sometimes we need to get hit in the head with a hammer.
 Always Smiling35

Joined: 7/1/2005
Msg: 30
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Posted: 8/27/2006 6:47:51 PM
Free internet dating sites that rock.

Who needs the hassle of chasing some-one around in a club any-more?
 kc1971

Joined: 7/26/2006
Msg: 31
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Posted: 8/27/2006 7:44:06 PM
No real secret. Maybe a smile as you walk by. If you smoke ask for a light. Position yourself close and make eye contact. Any excuse really. Three beautiful women can be awfully intimidating. Just some clue that you are not gonna send him down in flames. If you do talk and you find out your not interested, let him down easy. No guy likes hurt pride, especially if he has an audience of friends.
 85032Luck

Joined: 3/16/2006
Msg: 32
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Posted: 8/27/2006 9:14:59 PM
women, if you want to attract guy, learn how to put out the vibe, you dont have to chase him down or throw beer bottles at him. just give him a good stare and a smile. if a cute gal is looking my way and smiling too, i am drawn like a moth to the light, -i just have to check her out...
 obliq

Joined: 6/16/2006
Msg: 33
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Posted: 8/27/2006 10:07:26 PM
Why do men not approach three attractive women in a bar? Let's see...

Getting that "as if..." look and/or verbal expression of said statement.
Threat of being accused of harassment.
Getting laughed at to one's face or worse behind one's back.
If you're out with the girls, you're not looking for a man.
I personally have difficulty interpreting body language correctly.
I can't dance. I don't like to dance. I look like a big enough fool just trying to talk to you.
"What's your sign?" is no longer an effective pick-up line.
The distinct possibility that I will get ditched after I tell her about my toe jam collection.
The distinct possibility that I will get ditched because somebody more attractive and/or more entertaining came along.
The distinct possibility that I will get ditched because she used me to get the attention of someone more attractive and/or more entertaining.

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It would all be so much easier if we had you at "Hello."
 Wullis

Joined: 7/2/2006
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Posted: 8/27/2006 10:27:57 PM
{Getting that "as if..." look and/or verbal expression of said statement }

I stopped to say hi to a young lady I know recently at a kareoke thing and she had a friend with her I didn't know. I said to my friend "You never told me you had such beautiful friends"
The friend said "Why would you think I would have anything to do with you?" and then "And what would you do with it If you got the chance?"

My reply........"I'd start at your ankles an go up until you got a court order to stop me"

When I left her mouth was opening and closing but nothing was coming out.(It wasn't my most gentlemanly moment..............But she asked!!!!!!!!!!)
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 35
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Posted: 8/27/2006 11:30:30 PM
They might all be dating someone.

They might be inscure.

Here's a question for you. What's wrong with a woman starting a conversation with a man? That's perfectly acceptable....
 browneyedguy832

Joined: 6/22/2006
Msg: 36
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Posted: 8/27/2006 11:45:57 PM
This is an interesting topic and there have been some good responses. The guys at this bar/club might just be there to hang with their friends. This is often a case with me. I have a lot of married friends, and it is a pain in the ass to get them out without their wives. When I am out, they are worthless for meeting other ladies, so I don't really bother. At the same time, it would not be too forward for you to approach a man you find appealing. There are times when you can "bump" into him, when he leaves the table to go to the bathroom, gets drinks for his friends, his friends leave to do various things. A good smile and good eye contact are also good indicators for a guy to come over. One cool way to get a guy's attention is to smile and lift your drink and mouth, "cheers". If I saw a lady do that to me, I would definitely go and chat with her.
 MrGordonGecko

Joined: 6/29/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 8/28/2006 1:40:58 AM

I could use some insight!! The senerio would be 3 attractive single women out at a club.. (not a meatmarket) very open and having a good time and very little men approached us. What are they waiting for?? A sign that says "It safe to talk to me"?? I've notice that guys don't approach ladies as much anymore. Whats the deal?? Insight please!! Did a memo go out that I wasn't aware of?


The simple answer?

Maybe the men there didn't find the three women attractive at all. Maybe they ignored the three women because they didn't want to talk to them. Sometimes the idea of "waiting" is the ego talking, and "ignoring" is just the reality speaking.

Do most guys approach women less these days? I don't know, are most women these days worth approaching? Enough for men to take the bother in the first place? I think it cuts both ways.
 niceguy_81

Joined: 8/15/2006
Msg: 38
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Posted: 8/28/2006 2:00:20 AM
1. Show me a picture of these ladies.

2. I do not and will not approach women. I am done approaching them. If they want to talk to me, they have to come to me. I don't care how obvious they make it that they want to talk to me.

3. For other guys, it doesn't hurt to have a big red sign above your head that says come talk to you. Neon lights help too in those dark clubs.

4. I guess you missed the memo... maybe I'm the first of the new breed of "Don't ever approach women," who knows.
 JWA

Joined: 5/21/2005
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Posted: 8/28/2006 3:34:51 AM
The memo you missed contained a few men dating rules---I'll try to help you here.......

1. Two women out together = approachable, no harm in asking, probably would be open and accepting.

2. Three women out together = possible girls night out, OR one will be the "we gotta go now...." girl, aka safety valve, the one to be a "chiller" and a turn off if a creepy guy assults the group. Also, possibility one or both of the group is bitter and will assault, belittle, chide, harass or try to humiliate an approaching man as though it's open season on someone who just might be casually interesting in the woman of choice.

3. Women out in public should NOT rely on men approaching them if they're interested in someone. If you do wait, that's what you'll end up with OR your friend, the "we gotta go now...." girl!!

LOL Really----why didn't YOU just make some eye contact or ask someone to dance? I think the memo you missed was "this is 2006AD and it's OKAY for women to express interest in men!!" Sit alone, look aloof and bored and you've got the "we gotta go now..." girl all to yourself!!!
 Wullis

Joined: 7/2/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2006 5:18:52 AM
HEY GUYS

It being 2006 and ladies being allowed to ask us has not absolved us of approaching women

The Onus of finding companionship still lies on the shoulder of each individual, male and female(and those that don't fit in these two)

I personally don't want to hear the whining of lonley people who say stuff like:

" I do not and will not approach women. I am done approaching them. If they want to talk to me, they have to come to me. I don't care how obvious they make it that they want to talk to me."
Or "I don't want to be shot down"

If it were easy we would think it was one of the most precious commodities on earth!!!
 athletic_funny4

Joined: 8/7/2006
Msg: 41
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Posted: 8/28/2006 6:32:07 AM
About 95% of the time I see a profile that says "I'm attractive" when I see the photo's I don't think they are attractive. Is it possible you aren't as attractive as you think you are. I don't know I haven't seen your photo's. How is your fitness level? Often women with poor fitness concentrate on things like shoes, nails and hair and think this makes them attractive. When really men are more impressed with a pretty face, long hair and a hard body. These women always get attention.
 makingupaname

Joined: 8/12/2006
Msg: 42
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Posted: 8/28/2006 11:17:02 AM
Some guys are very shy about approaching. There are ways you can invite approach, and ways you can make yourself more approachable. I just made a long ass post about approachablility here: http://forums.plentyoffish.com/5098749datingPostpage2.aspx

As far as inviting approach, there have been studies done to show that while men feel that they are the ones that initiate contact with women, men are somethingl ike 80% more likely to approach if a woman sends them an approach invitation first. These are usually done unknowingly, and usually picked up on subconsciously by men, but the studies seem to prove that they exist.

Males respond to females that repeatedly make eye contact, make eye contact and then flick their hair around their neck, make eye contact and then bite their lips, etc. As sexist as it sounds, after making eye contact, many females will adopt a slightly submissive posture, showing off the side of their neck to the man, etc.

Anyway, i'm not going to parahprase the entire chapter, but it was an interesting read, and anyone that is interested in understanding the meaning behind body languge in social interaction sould pick up "the big book of tells" by peter collett. Great read. Best of luck next time.
 Nos800

Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2006 11:28:51 AM
I forgot to mention when its 3 woman you have the chance one of them is the "Purse Watcher" and consider's herself responsible for the other two and NO GUY is gonna hit on the when they are on Watch......

I have had a very good night with a woman before that was dragged off by her "Purse Watching" fat friend.
 offshoreman71

Joined: 1/7/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2006 11:48:24 AM
I agree with Steven, not stacked in our favor. Lets say that actually happened and I was interested in the one who wasn't interested in me. I ask her to dance or to buy her a drink, now she turns me down because her friend likes me, so I have been shot down once. Then I see the other girl who WAS interested, now she turns me down because I didn't ask her first. The third girl is going to turn me down because her friends did. So simple mathematics happen here. If there is 1 girl odds are 50/50 to get somewhere. 2 girls odds decrease to 1 in 4 chance, 3 girls and your odds are down to 1 in 6 chance of getting somewhere. Unless you factor in the bachelorette parties then your chances drastically increase in accordance with how much alcohol has already been administered. Women are very finicky creatures!
 Nos800

Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2006 11:53:12 AM
^^^^^ Very good post
 SweetieGuy_81

Joined: 12/25/2005
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Posted: 8/28/2006 12:05:11 PM
erm trippjaxon,

Haven't you tried going up to a guy and chat them up?

It is the 21st Century now, both men and women can go up to each other and not look desperate or anything like that.

If you think the guys should do the first move cause they are guys, then you are abit sexist, if it was me, i would feel too nervous to come up to 3 women to chat, cause most of the time i tend to meet the wrong sort.

Go up to them and chat to them.
 Crown of Fire

Joined: 7/9/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2006 12:39:07 PM

I could use some insight!! The senerio would be 3 attractive single women out at a club.. (not a meatmarket) very open and having a good time and very little men approached us. What are they waiting for?? A sign that says "It safe to talk to me"?? I've notice that guys don't approach ladies as much anymore. Whats the deal?? Insight please!! Did a memo go out that I wasn't aware of?


If you're too insecure to approach any of us, what makes you think we have to approach you? Show some initive, show some backbone.
 Wullis

Joined: 7/2/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2006 2:32:31 PM
{When really men are more impressed with a pretty face, long hair and a hard body. These women always get attention.}

NOT nessicarily and as often as not it is rude and crude or insincere attention they recieve.
 Roamingsiris

Joined: 7/8/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2006 5:31:11 PM
Hardly anyone approached you?

Hmmm...

And they all bashed the wingman thread...

Wingmen of the world unite.

Actually, where did you three go... Hell, I wouldnt mind finding three ladies to keep me entertained. At least the verbal banter would be amusing for awhile. That whole 3v1 thing really keeps a guy on his toes.

 krankiss

Joined: 11/29/2004
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Posted: 8/28/2006 5:52:13 PM
I think most guys are waiting for one of you to leave the group. If there's two groups of 3's then it'll happen easy. Any less or more and someone will be alienated. Break up the group once and a while. Move around the place, go onto the dance floor, have one leave for a sec to buy a drink or go to the bathroom.

Once out of your pack, give clues that you are interested in someone. Say hi, smile, wink, stare then look away, bumb into them then touch them while saying oh sorry with a big smile. Simply stand/sit near a group of guys that you like. Just walk up to a guy and pull him onto the dance floor. Bold, but will work 92% of the time.

No one's looking... Ask the guy(s) for a light, the time, a cellphone. This way you started it, all they have to do is say something cool or funny. Maybe it's a neat phone you can talk about. Ooh, better yet get them to take a picture of you and your friends. Keep some cool pics on the cam to show others. Tell a story about a pic.

Still no luck, try a bar with less vasectomy patients.
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