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Posted: 9/2/2006 9:33:01 AM | HEAR HEAR I was getting lonely there with my neck stuck out
There are NO opportunities for failure, but tons for building a repore with women that transends One girl in one moment.
If your reputation in the clubs/bars/social activities you go to is a great guy with something to say and fun to be around.....the other girls in the club will chat you up. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2006 9:37:39 AM | | For one, at least two wingmen will be required. 3 ladies sitting alone pretty much means no one is getting laid that night. Men prefer good odds. One woman sitting alone presents better odds. three women means you have a 1 in 3 chance of getting laid os opposed to a 1 in 1 chance if she were alone. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2006 10:31:27 AM | ^^^^That's crap slow hand. The trick is to lay down a ground work. You guys pick a target and strike (more airplane metaphors) . You don't do any reconnesence. Go up to the group and talk to them as a whole, don't single one out. Chat up and leave, get a drink, speak to other women and men. Glance over from time to time.......... now they wonder who your after. Go and ask if any or all of them want to dance, again don't single anyone out. After say you had fun and hope to se them there next week.
If all three show up.......you know one is REALLY interested. And she will tip her hand so you don't "accidentally" pick the wrong one.
You meet much cooler women if you work at it!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats the adage.... you get what you pay for.
And if your only there to get laid that night......don't even show up til one or so and there will be a dozen or so that are there for that purpose waiting for you at the bar. | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/2/2006 10:52:26 AM | | Perhaps some guys have been burned so much they dont want to open themselves up to the abuse we all can dish out just a thought | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/2/2006 11:09:14 AM | Again, what if most of the men there don't find the three women attractive enough to approach them?
It's the simplest answer. | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/2/2006 12:49:29 PM | ^^^^^^ so what!!!!!! I'm sure they have cute friends
My point is INVEST IN LIFE, be apart of it. A woman doesn't need to be marriage material to talk to them. If I had twenty for every girl that told me "I have a friend you should meet....."
Mr. Gecko, your a buisness man, we talk with people all the time that are not EVER going to give us business because they are in with somebody we want or need to do business. Or that affects permits, or has raw material. Our objective is to sell products or services but if we don't lay down groundwork, get permits, buy materials and supplies, we can sell the moon and can't deliver. We all know cold call sales in the most ineffiecent way to sell.
So why do guys do it where it counts the most. Those there girls represent, a sale, advertising, a lead network, a supplier. Since we don't know these women we must not discard there potential. | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/2/2006 5:00:52 PM | I've only walked up to a group a couple times. Both times were when the girls were looking absolutely bored. Not even talking to each other, and staring wistfully at the dance floor. I just walked up and said 'I haven't seen you guys smile all night. what's wrong?' You'll get an answer, it really doesn't matter what it is because now you've breached the door and you can ask the one you like to dance. The other time I got them all out on the dance floor but I stood by the one I liked. So when the song was over her friends went back to the table and she stayed on the dance floor with me. Oh I guess one other time was pretty good. (when i was younger and really shy) I saw a girl in a group I was really attracted to but never saw an opportunity. Next thing you know she is surrounded by guys at the bar. So I walk up to one of the girls in the group back at the table and say 'I'm too shy to tell her myself, but I think your friend over there is really cute.' She took my hand and said 'tell her yourself, let's go' I was like 'oh shit here we go. Balls don't fail me now' she takes me to her friend at the bar. She reaches in, grabs her friends hand and extracts her from the mob of men. Then she takes us both to an empty table and said 'he wants to tell you something'. LOL. It worked out so well I lost most of my shyness that night.
But yeah if you are in a group of females, you need to step away from them from time to time. There may be a guy who is just waiting for you to split from the group just for a minute.
The last girl I dated was in a very large group. She left them and came up to me at the bar. I was standing there with my buddy. Looking back she was pretty brave. She asked me if I could get the barmaid's attention for her because she was too short to be seen lol. That was all it took. She got to make her interest known without risk of a rejection, then I took over and did the 'chasing' which is what she really wanted. | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/2/2006 11:43:04 PM | Okay so my take on this is as follows.
Firstly: Hangin out in groups makes it even harder for men to approach. There is confidence, but then there is a thing called stupidity. Difference- confience, appraoch a women in the bar. Stupidity, appraoch a group of women in a bar. The reasoning I say this is because at first impression you not only have to impress the girl, but you also have to impress all of her girl friends.
Secondly: If the guy has ego/personal insecurities, the group pack, will more than likely prevent him from going forward with it. Reasons are based on the individual, but for me its as follows. I do not have the most appealing physique/look. Once you get to know a person things can change but on first impression, lets be honest, looks are extremely important.
Lastly: Us guys are easily intimidated by females, no matter how much of a manly man we think/apear to be. This is most likely due to a fear of rejection, but is also because of other things. Be it insecurities, or possibly just the fact that we are not all powerful as we would like to think. Be it physical, emotional, or mental.
Well thats my take. As a word of advice though. Try going with a group of friends, for security reasons, but every once and a while fray from the pack, and see what happens. The guy will be more likely to approach you during your time of solitude, and then if you like him, ease him into the pack. | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/3/2006 2:49:59 AM | As for the getting laid point above, about 3 in 1 and 1 in 1...
How many times do u go out at a weekend and see a girl sitting on her own?? She's still gonna have mates with her or partner, they may be just at the bar or in the loo!!! lol
How many times have u gone out on a sat night on ur own and pulled up a chair in a busy bar and just sat there?? lol | |
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Posted: 9/4/2006 12:07:13 PM | wow someone hit that one dead on for me - I am a pretty shy guy in a bar scene...
approaching a girl by herself makes me nervous enough - but now if I want to even say "hi" I've got to approach a table with three girls??? I'd rather not - and most likely won't. However, if I am really interested, go up to the bar by yourself and order your drink instead of waiting for a waiter/waitress - if I see you by yourself for a moment, I may just decide to go up and order my drink beside you - then I'd surely say hello - or - if I am ordering my drink, come up and order beside me, if there's chemistry - someone will break the ice :)
but really - hanging with a group the whole night I really do believe would decrease anyone's chances of meeting someone - you're not easily approachable - if you are a girl who would approach a table with three guys comfortably to say hi, wow! - my hat's off to you!
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Posted: 9/4/2006 6:51:05 PM | Personal question Troppjaxon?
You wonder how guys can't just simply walk up to three attractive woman - well imagine it more of a scenerio where you were forced to meet three complete strangers. I bet you can tell theres a hint of fear and anxiety.
Theres an actual technical phrase for it - it's called Approach Anixety. Some people are less influenced by it (these are either the people who were naturally popular as a child and progressed through adulthood, or those who've actually learned to expose themselves to society and take the low blows and paid the price for achieving the ability to approach strangers.)
Now throw three beautiful women together. Worse in a club - where most guys intentions are all on impressing the woman and hopefully be implemented into the social circle. Its not that easy.
But note - there will be the occasional few who will blow your mind....
...and no im not talking about the same average schmo guy saying either a cheesy pickup line or offers to buy you a drink.
But sadly that's what you'll mostly get in a place like that.
Short brief outview - men are intimated by beautiful women. Some less than others - but no guy can say they're not intimated to the at least to a small degree.
But heres my best advice for guys who do feel intimated. 'its a pebble in your shoe - live with it' | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/4/2006 9:24:15 PM | | A boat and a fishing pole lol,hmmmmmmmmmm i have no idea what their waiting for but if there waiting then bail out lol,or send him up a river with out a paddle or her lol | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/4/2006 10:19:43 PM | | I agree with the OP...why won't men approach women...altho i do believe this is more locale dependent...guys in Vancouver, BC would NEVER initiate conversation...NE-VER...lol...case in point...guy across from you constantly looking ALL NIGHT...you return the looks..back and forth...very obvious at this point...a number of eye to eye contact...you leave...and he doesn't approach you AT ALL....lol...what gives...lol...now in the states, Seattle to be specific...you walk around Pioneer Square and someone yells out "You're Beautiful"...nothing wrong with that...you say thank you and walk your merry way...pretty harmless with both parties being pretty respectful...no embarrassment to be had....Gentlemen...we, the women, would like you, the men, to exercise you're role as men to take initiative/make a move...ESPECIALLY if she is giving you the go ahead signals...really don't know why men are sooo shy to approach these days or take initiative. | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/4/2006 10:37:37 PM |
4. I guess you missed the memo... maybe I'm the first of the new breed of "Don't ever approach women," who knows.
Couldn't agree more to that my friend. I never approach, or 'hit on' women in clubs, bars, or anywhere for that matter. If I go out with the guys, I just go out to have a good time, and laugh at my friends who get shot down, and occasionally when they get lucky play the wingman. I've met more women to my taste by not going after them anywho so why should I change that eh? | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/4/2006 10:50:25 PM |
I've met more women to my taste by not going after them anywho so why should I change that eh?
Ah yes, but then you'll miss out on those opportunities where you see a girl that really catches your eye...who maybe more traditional and not the aggressive type girl...because you want her to make the move?!?!? | |
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Posted: 9/5/2006 6:28:09 AM | We are waiting to meet you elsewhere. Do i want to spend the rest of or even a few months of my life with the kind of ladies who like to hang at bars? Do you want to do the same with the kinda guy that hangs at a bar?
*HATES BARS* | |
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Posted: 9/5/2006 6:49:46 AM | sadly most ladys at the clubs are out to flirt, and get free drinks, guess the guys are starting to think with our heads and not the one in our pants!
plus if i was out at the bar...im not looking for a girlfriend! is that were you want to meet a boyfriend? NOT ME | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/5/2006 2:23:37 PM |
and laugh at my friends who get shot down,
i think your friends should be more selective of who their friends are. | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/5/2006 4:13:22 PM | A signal, smile or other gesture will certainly help. It is highly competitive for men in clubs, and 3 hot ladies certainly would be noticed. It can be intimidating, and no one likes rejection. On the flip side, if you don't take risks you will never get what you want.
Guys whats the worse that could happen? | |
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Posted: 9/5/2006 4:28:42 PM | | ^^^^^^ you turn shake his hand ...look dumbfounded shake your head and say "you must be doing something right... that's quite a lady." | |
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| What are guys waiting for???
Posted: 9/5/2006 4:56:48 PM | How often do you see one woman walk up to a group of guys and ask the guy to dance??
(Never, only a desperate girl woud do that!!)
How often do you see a woman buying a drink for a man???
(Are you f**kin kidding me??)
How often do you see a woman walk up to a guy and use a "pick-up line"?
(Never, only men are stuipid enough to believe this shit works)
How often do you overhear a group of guys conversation about how a perfect woman would be rich, great at oral, red hot attractive, AND FAITHFUL.
(Answer part A, We are men and not nearly as smart as some of you women, but this type of woman does not exist, she is a myth, much like the woman who cooks like over mother, looks like Halle Berry/Pam Anderson (pick one) and is great in the sack like a pornstar.)
How often do women talk about a guy with all these attributes, hook up with said guy and live happily ever fu**in after?
(never most of these guys are pricks because they all the women are over them and they know they can always find some superficial sow who think they are god's gift to women.)
In summary, Men take all the risks to intiate conversation, and why because women are beautiful????
(No because we are stupid, if we stopped drooling over thongs peering out of jeans, push up bras, fake jewelry, tatoos on your belly button or lower back and Revlon and decide to ignore you, what would happen??? You would post to this forum.) | |
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Posted: 9/5/2006 9:52:50 PM | ^^^^^roughntender
Sounds like Somebody got shot down BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats some raw resentment showin through.
Yes I see women go up to a group of guy's and ask one to dance......not often enough but yes
Girls buy me drinks all the time, and every once in a while even dinner
I once had a lady bend over me from behind and said "WHere have you been all my life"..... We dated for 9 months.
You get out of life what you put into it. I am not a good looking man, not rich ....but I don't sit around and wait for life to happen. I make life happen for me!!! | |
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Posted: 9/5/2006 10:41:45 PM | | Cool, one head is better than three! I would have never guessed! All this time I just needed to go out by myself, look unattached as possible and you'all say ello? This is crazy, what women iwould go without her girlfriends? | |
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