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Posted: 3/29/2005 2:02:42 AM | | Well eborys, then that's a problem for the guys, not women. If they can't be platanic or it's a struggle, then they shouldn't be having female friends. Everyone is free to have as many friends as they want of either gender. Sounds like you're the one who has a problem with it. Maybe a bit of jealousy on your part? Bitterness? | |
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Posted: 3/29/2005 2:08:12 PM | | What's there to be jealous of? I wouldnt even want a whole bunch of female friends just to hang out with. Sure there's nothing wrong with having friends of the opposite sex, but it does seem a little strange or unconventional to some people, as usually we stick to our own gender for close friendships. That's the societal norm. | |
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Posted: 3/29/2005 2:45:46 PM | Okay, first of all...to justjake (I tried to email this to him but it seems that he's only accepting messages from people that live close to him):
Hey there...
Here's what you wrote in the forum:
"Well Ive been turned down by them All, internet,bars all over and even the Big gals too.
Ive been hearing alot of this wanting to be "the hunted" from females, however they also hold the red button that opens the trap door so the men can go bye bye and they say "NEXT". Women almost have demanded "confidance" as a requirement, but I feel it comes from Sucess.When a 4'8" gal wants a 6' tall man it makes a 5'9" man feel almost useless when they read like ten of that in a row.I would rather date someone of Your build than a supermodel but Ive even gotten shot down by the "worst" we may have seen.Perhaps I should just go for the high end and see what happens, cant lose what I dont got. Theres only one phrase Ive heard that seems sooo true "nice guys finish last". What else can I say.Its a tougher game out there than some people tell us and unfortunately some of us get fed up and we need someone to throw us a tow rope and get us back on the main road.Strip clubs,hookers,alchohol arent the answer, acceptance is.Reading this on here sure can help a little, but more reading is needed because I never see a full truce.Thats all the blah I can think of at this time but I tried to get my thought in the forum.Thanks."
AND HERE WE GO:
Okay, a few things. the way that you word your first line, it sounds almost as if you're saying that the "big gals" shouldn't reject anyone because they're big. I hope that's not what you mean. I am one of those "big girls" and I know that I'm worth enough that if I'm not into someone, regardless of what they look like, I should feel like I am worth enough to find someone that I'm compatible with. Just wondering what you meant by that.
Second, the whole 4'9"woman/6'guy thing doesn't make much sense. So are you saying shorter women should only go for guys closer to their height? Or that taller guys should only go for women closer to their height? If that's not what I'm attracted to, then I'm not going to go for that. I know that I'm short (5'3") and I like taller guys because I feel small around them. I feel petite and I feel safe. Like they'd be there to protect me if I needed it. I'm sorry if the 5'9" guys out there feel threatened by that but there are plenty of women that like those guys too!
And last, nice guys DON'T finish last. It's just looking that way now because you're not seeing the finish line. However, it's just that the ones you've found haven't been right for YOU yet, and not the other way around. Gotta keep a positive spin on the dating game or you'll get bogged down a the bottom. You WILL find your match, just have to let it happen.
So that's the end of that one. The second thing:
eborys: sorry but I don't agree with you. I have a bunch of male friends and we get along fabulously. There's no sexual attachment there, nor has there ever or will there ever be. It is possible to have purely platonic friendships. I think that almost every once of those started out (for me at least) as a crush but the more that I got to know them the more I just grew into loving them for who they are as a friend, nothing else. I know it's probably not EASY to have one of those relationships, especially for guys. but if theyr'e important enough to keep in your life, then it's imporant enough to try. Anyway, just my thoughts. Sorry this was so long!!! | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 12:24:20 AM |
Second, the whole 4'9"woman/6'guy thing doesn't make much sense. So are you saying shorter women should only go for guys closer to their height? Or that taller guys should only go for women closer to their height? If that's not what I'm attracted to, then I'm not going to go for that. I know that I'm short (5'3") and I like taller guys because I feel small around them. I feel petite and I feel safe. Like they'd be there to protect me if I needed it. I'm sorry if the 5'9" guys out there feel threatened by that but there are plenty of women that like those guys too!
iv'e never dated a girl taller than me, there aren't that many but i admit i'm generally fascinated by them in a car wreck can't look away sort of way, there is one at the local cracker barrel here who is a good head taller than me and she wears thick heels; of course i'd scale her like everest but i think eventually it might bother me, i like shorter women usually, shorter the further i am out of slap range.
And last, nice guys DON'T finish last. It's just looking that way now because you're not seeing the finish line. However, it's just that the ones you've found haven't been right for YOU yet, and not the other way around. Gotta keep a positive spin on the dating game or you'll get bogged down a the bottom. You WILL find your match, just have to let it happen.
nice guys dont' ask so nice guys don't finish at all, which is worse than finishing last so i'll give you that one on a technicality. and believe me i've tried everything from prayer to affirmations to hitting on people i do business with and there is no such thing as "letting it happen".
eborys: sorry but I don't agree with you. I have a bunch of male friends and we get along fabulously. There's no sexual attachment there, nor has there ever or will there ever be. It is possible to have purely platonic friendships. I think that almost every once of those started out (for me at least) as a crush but the more that I got to know them the more I just grew into loving them for who they are as a friend, nothing else. I know it's probably not EASY to have one of those relationships, especially for guys. but if theyr'e important enough to keep in your life, then it's imporant enough to try. Anyway, just my thoughts. Sorry this was so long!!!
just because there is no sexual attachment from you to them doesn't mean the reverse is also necessarily true; i don't know a single (yes both ways) guy with platonic women friends he isn't secretly hoping/trying to ****.
waspleg
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Posted: 3/30/2005 1:19:29 AM | | Very true- just like I said, women have a remarkable ability to be just friends with males and very easily act totally oblivious to the fact that sex exists- they hang out, laugh, have fun, talk, giggle, get drunk, scream in the streets and whatever without the thought of sex entering their minds for a second, even in the presense of attractive guys and even when the girls themselves are dressed seductively. But the guys are always thinking about ****ing them...Women have very specific preconditions for sexual arousal. Sex is for a purpose- reproduction and their duty to ensure the continuation of the human species from good genetic stock. For men, sex is for pleasure and they dont give a **** about their mates being goal oriented, passionate about life or earning over 40,000 a year or any stupid shit like that. Tell me I'm wrong...There's a biological basis for women's pickiness. They are programmed by evolution and socialized by society to be ****es, plain and simple. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 1:24:10 AM | Dude, put down the crack pipe and back away from the keyboard.
Women don't have sex for pleasure? What convent do you live in?
You are wrong. You're saying you have no standards for a woman and you're still not getting laid? How sad are you? | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 1:40:30 AM | | very very sad................dude............shake yer head................lmao...nevermind, the woman allready are......................... | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 1:46:00 AM |
Women don't have sex for pleasure?
only since the sixties
What convent do you live in?
i wish, sexually repressed nuns have to be good.
You are wrong. You're saying you have no standards for a woman and you're still not getting laid? How sad are you?
i think what he's getting at is the only poor boys who get laid are the muscled pool boys of rich soccer moms, this isn't entirely true, i know a guy who lives with this mother, donates blood for money, is older than i am and ****s strippers/prostitutes/seriously fukced up damaged people dregged up from various obscure online venues and the local university he attends (occasionally)... the key difference (aka, why he gets laid?), he asks, simple as that. its all abotu conquering your own fears of rejection/failure/whatever.
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Posted: 3/30/2005 4:41:07 AM |
Women have very specific preconditions for sexual arousal. Sex is for a purpose- reproduction and their duty to ensure the continuation of the human species from good genetic stock.
OMG did he just say that, I think he did, no really he actually faakin typed that out, probably re-read it and still posted it!!!! ARE YOU FAAKIN KIDDING ME!!!! Do you live in a faakin cave, frigin club your woman, drag her back to your domecile and knock her up to continue your horrible genes.
Dude why do you think the pill, and many other birth controls were invented, because sex is a faakin wonderful pleasure for both sexes.
And yes when I said go spank the monkey I was intending that you go whack off, because maybe if your jerked your own gerkin (implying you have a small weiner now) then you wouldnt be sitting here whining about the fact that you can't sit in the same room as someone of the oppositte sex without wanting to pounce on them! | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 4:42:33 AM | lmao, i was gonna put the cave reference in my post too limo, but i just couldn't bring myself to type it without going into fits of laughter.
oh and eborys....read my pic. i made it just for you. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 7:38:51 AM | Joel makes me want to move to Canada.  | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 9:43:07 AM | Ah shucks, Jayelle. You're going to make me blush
Come on up, we got plenty of room up here. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 1:46:09 PM | amen to that...i think uve educated all those men out there who are dissing girls for not responding. im sure they wouldnt respond to a message from a girl they didnt find interesting...so why should we?
and i think those "thanks but no thanks" responses just hurt more and girls usually dont wanna hurt the guys feelings. i dont anyway... | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 1:46:12 PM | Princess- I didnt say I dont have standards I'm just pointing out how high women's standards are compared to men, and I'm touched that you went to the trouble of changing your avatar for me, gosh..I dont know what to say.
Mrs Limousine- sure there's birth control pills, but it only after it gets to that intimate stage after a lot of work from a guy if he meets the requirements, unless you live in a patriarchal, male dominated society where men use women as servents basically. The majority of women can only experience sexual pleasure or will allow themselves to experience it once the prerequistes for a relationship have been met.
What about hookers or sluts? I dont know- maybe they just have genes that are defective and counter-evolutionary. Funny someone should mention that comment about the cave men because I was thinking about that myself last night. We need to back to the stone age where men would just grab the **** and drag her into the cave for a good ****. Too much liberation in modern society. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 5:11:23 PM | MR. I need to spend a nite jerkin the gerkin....
again your ignorance and sexism reigns through in your typing and useless banter!
The pill was actually created so that people could f*ck without being burdened with children..
OMG im sorry *edited post* I just actually looked at your profile, it all makes sense to me now.. You just don't get laid at all do ya?
Sit on your hands and jerk off tonight it will feel like someone else is doing it, probably the best youre going to get from this site!
It's the 21st century dingleberry, women are not merely here to be an oven for your genes. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 5:56:24 PM | | Christ, do you have to take everything so seriously? Cant you tell I'm being sarcastic? (to a degree). What is it about my profile that is so terrible? You think I'm ugly or my profile just sucks? Tell me the truth, dont hold back. | |
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Joined: 3/23/2005
Msg: 119 | |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 7:50:21 PM | Your right its common curtousy to return a message when both profiles have common interests yet it ends with a unread message or its deleted. You cant beat Human nature. | |
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Joined: 2/23/2005
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Posted: 3/30/2005 7:51:12 PM | Good crap, kids. Never meant for this to get ugly!! Geez. There's no need to revert to 5-year olds and start name calling and using the big words to get your point across. Spanking the monkey? Jerkin the Gerkin? Seriously ladies, didn't that go out with Austin Powers? Sorry, there's my sarcasm. And look, fellas, it was toward the women!
eborys (and yes, I know this wasn't to me but here I go) I don't think anything is wrong with your profile but I do have issues with your "sex for women is just for procreation" attitude. That is simply not the case. AT ALL. Oh my gosh, AT ALL. There's NO way it's for procreation for me, at least not at this point. I'm so far away from "I want a baby" stage which is where I would need to be for that to be true at all. I have never...let me say that again..NEVER had sex within the parameters of a relationship. Sex is fun, plain and simple. SO SO fun.
Have to move on now...
All of that said, this isn't supposed to be a knock down on any one person in particular. All I meant to say in all of this is that the complaining is stupid and contrary to the point of all of this in general. If all you're going to do is complain about how women don't respond, then don't join a dating website, free or not. Part of the point of these websites in general is so that you can find out about a persons character (not their entire character of course, but still find out about someone) and, at least for me, I can generally tell fairly quickly whether or not we'd get along. It takes a lot of the guesswork out of things. And while that guesswork can be fun too (getting to know people can be a good time!), this does sometimes make things a bit easier. However, if all a girl is seeing about you is a bunch of bickering and negativity, there's no WAY she's going to run to your side and ask to meet you.
Well that was longer than expected. Have a nice night everyone! | |
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Posted: 3/31/2005 12:34:14 AM |
Good crap, kids. Never meant for this to get ugly!! Geez. There's no need to revert to 5-year olds and start name calling and using the big words to get your point across. Spanking the monkey? Jerkin the Gerkin? Seriously ladies, didn't that go out with Austin Powers? Sorry, there's my sarcasm. And look, fellas, it was toward the women!
Heh.
what's wrong with "big words"? specificity is important in communcation.
I have never...let me say that again..NEVER had sex within the parameters of a relationship. Sex is fun, plain and simple. SO SO fun.
getting sexier by the minute nikki
Part of the point of these websites in general is so that you can find out about a persons character (not their entire character of course, but still find out about someone) and, at least for me, I can generally tell fairly quickly whether or not we'd get along. It takes a lot of the guesswork out of things.
i'd have to disagree wtih the character part unless you mean the character they created and showed to the world in the hopes of getting a response (aka bait, this is a pond right?) all you can see is a few paragraphs of someone whose unique personality and world view has developed over the course of at least 2 decades and possibly longer; i don't think its fair to say that these profiles even constitute a snapshot (unless you happen to be Sliv with an autobiographical study for a profile) of who people really are.
However, if all a girl is seeing about you is a bunch of bickering and negativity, there's no WAY she's going to run to your side and ask to meet you.
how does this square with the women-love-being-treated-like-shit theorem?
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Posted: 3/31/2005 2:19:03 AM | | Mrs. Limousine, if you're not having trouble getting laid too, then what are you doing here? Also, if you would like an honest critique of your profile since you were so blunt about mine, you are short- borderlining midget, your flat as an ironboard, and you sound dumb, uneducated too. There's more to building a foundation for a relationship than a love for a "fakkin" beer... | |
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Joined: 3/9/2005
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Posted: 3/31/2005 5:56:53 AM | Err...she's not dumb or uneducated, she does some pretty amazing photography if you ask me. I'm looking at her pics and distinctly see some pretty nice girly features, no flat ironboards. 5'1" is not borderline midget, and in fact is a height I myself, and a lot of other men find dead sexy.
Sure she might have a heavy lean towards drinking, partying and sayin' things like "faakin" but she's 23, for crying out loud. Let her be young and have fun lol What were you doing at 23?
I mean, this girl is really a cool person from the bit I've gotten to know her, her only real fault is that she's not dating me, but hey, nobody's perfect, and she's a lot more accomplished than I was at 23 :P | |
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Posted: 3/31/2005 8:31:51 AM | Eborys,
I'm afraid I have to go with sliv on this one. I too am a fan of the petite body frame. Makes it good for spinning around in bed. It seems that Eborys going downhill in this message board. In the beginning he had men agreeing with haim and sounded quite intelligent and well spoken. The past few days, he's sounding more and more like a moron. Although, to Limo, there is more to life than booze and I hope you know that. At 23, it might be time to grow up a bit and take life and alcoholism more seriously. It's one thing to enjoy a nice beer or drink, but if that's all you enjoy, then you might have a problem.
That's my two cents. | |
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nikkiw
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Joined: 2/23/2005
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