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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 6/6/2005 9:32:48 PM | | I think it all depends on the type of woman, too, not just the guy. I've dated a couple nice guys before... the first one didn't get any but that's 'cause we were both virgins at 16 and lived at home... the last one was a military guy and that was a wild week when he visited from washington dc. | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/21/2006 11:34:06 PM | Jeez, while I realize that some women prefer "bad boy.s" I would have literaly jumped on a guy who brought me flowers, treated me with respect and dignity, looked like you (damn your cute) and was actually pleasant and not arrogant. If there was chemistry on both sides. Sex is just as important to me as any guy, I have needs to, but I have a difficult time getting any takers. Are you only look for models or do real women stand a chance?
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 7:29:47 AM | | So not true .... It's the bad boys who just lay on the charm so aggressively. They attract the women who are fooled by this. You are attracting the women who cannot be fooled. You are likely intelligent as well as nice. And, therefore are attracting like minded women to yourself. Women who appreciate a nice, intelligent man who wants to get to know them before jumping into the sack with them. So, don't change anything about yourself. Carry on as you have been. The right woman will come along and the sex won't be just sex - it will be so much better than that. | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 7:47:14 AM | Here is the bottom line...
The crappier you treat a womn the more they chase you... men have learned this from WOMEN... not men...same experience has happened repeatedly to me and all of my male freinds... something about the women wanting something they can't have... and it being a challenge...if you act like you could give a hoot less they won't leave you alone... you get laid more frequently etc.
women have taught men this... the majority of men were taught by their moms when we first started dating to bring flowers and hold hands and not try and get into a girls pants on the first date... we learned later through dating experience that approach usually gets you no 2nd date now adays...lol
AS for nice... i consider nice being a gentleman.. not trying to get laid on the first date unless the woman makes it clear that is what she wants... treating the woman with the same respect you expect in return as a man.. to me that is nice...but the "nice approach has gotten me burned wayyyyyy more times than the "treat em crappy approach" yet i still keep trying to be "nice" either i am stupid or my conscience won't let me be the "bad boy" anymore.
Chris Rock said it best... "if a guy holds a door open for you he is offering you sex (not the exact word he said but i don't want to say that word in here and get into trouble..lol) if he opens a car door for you he is offering you sex....if he buys your dinner he is offering you sex...etc.
Nice is the way you treat a woman with respect and decency not what you offer her... even the bad boys bue them dinner and give em flowers. | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:36:05 PM | Guys! Only give flowers to a woman who already likes you. On valentines day, B-day, and so on...Giving flowers to a woman that you've just met, or met recently makes her think that you are in love with her. If she isn't in love with you yet, then you just put her on the spot. Now, she's worried about you trying to kiss her or something that may make her feel uncomfortable. She can't handle the stress of that and to relieve that stress, she's going to stoip hanging out with you. Psycho aren't they?
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Sheesh....
You can buy daisies at Kroger for 3 dollars.... They are pretty, last awhile and cheap. Very cost effective. | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:38:40 PM | Yup mys.. you got that one right...
there have been numerous threads on here talking about almost the exact same thing.. and you wouldn't believe the amount of flack some of the women gave guys that talked about being "nice". They called them and myself bitter for asking why they passed on the "nice guys" but complained abuot men in genreal when relating thier bad relationships time after time... i had one actually say " i don't want a boring guy who won't try and be overly aggressive on the first date i want that excitement!!" then they will turn around and say all guys want is sex...lol
Lesson: if you act like a bad boy you get laid...if you treat women crappy they can't resist you..and the challenge..
Fact is alot of women and maybe even the majority don't want the "nice Guy" they want guys who are agressive and exciting... and until they get their fill of those types of guys they keep repeating the same relationship blunders over and over... then want to generalize men as "pigs" or "jerks" or whatever.. but the truth is as i have said over and over... women teach us how they want to be treated early on when we are young and just practicing what our parents (mainly our moms) told us how to treat them... and women want the fairy tail kind of relationship excitement... constant romance... and good providors.... the prince charming complex i call it...lol woman pick the men they get involved with... so they should re-assess thier choices if they keep running into the same problems in relationships
Guys learn their relationship roles from women and their dating experiences.. all that junk in the movies is romance novel prince charming stuff the women like... you rarely see the average guy winning the girl in the movies... he is rich, or an action exciting guy, or some other variation...lol when you see an average guy and a cute girl on tv it is in a sit com and he is portrayed as a loveable buffoon... that can't do anything right with out his wife helping..
as said before .... it is the men women pick so don't generalize men based on your choices gals... your in control in the dating arena and your doing the audtioning and casting... so if you want different endings choose a diffrent kind of leading man.
just my opinion | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 6:34:04 PM | I must be getting TOO nice these past few years. :D
When I was younger, unable to commit, shy, and worked at a job that was sometimes portrayed in movies, young interns and assorted hotties would just mysteriously appear. All it took was some eye contact and a few nice words. I never did learn how to pick-up someone in the produce isle or in a bar. They always came to me. (Before that, I grew up play up playing music and that would have been downright dangerous had I not been so overly shy as a kid.)
Then I matured some, got married, ended up with one of those bad divorces, and gained a few battle scars along the way just like most everyone else my age. My how things change.
With that experience, I think I'm now a much better catch...but of course I had youth and a touch of bad boy image in those days.
Conclusion: ya, I think the bad boy image works some but I don't think being a jerk goes very far. I think some women SAY they want the reliable nice guy but are tempted by the excitement of hanging with James Dean. But you need some balance. You also need to live by your ethics.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to pump up my confidence so I won't be too shy to introduce myself to that hottie in the Starbucks line...sheeezzzz…I thought these things would get easier with age.  | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 6:52:59 PM | mys...so true
Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
^^ so i been hearing this alot...goes same for us nice gals...sigh....what to do. i perfer a nice guy but one whos not shy to approach me that is....bad guys is kinda of a turn off for me...cause eventually they will get tired an move to the next.
i had an exeperience last night....kinda made me think...two guys i knew for years i seen them lastnight for the first time in a long time...an they proceeded to tell me later on as the night went by that they always liked me alot...grrrrrrrr...i asked why they didnt approach me before bout this...they responded cause they thought they werent good enough for me ...wtf%$^^%#&%$^@$ is that bout? i am the most down to earth girl....sigh..and i thought they didnt like me at all....so theres a thought.
so speak up guys...go talk to someone if you like them you have nothing to loose...cause in the end....(wink)you never know....besides why keep someone guessing ..were not getting any younger fellas/ladies...(snickers)  | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 8:10:59 PM |
I have a few nice friends who are either married or steady girlfriends. The only thing is they don't get a lot of action with other ladies because they are too nice.
Umm... did I read that right? They're either "married" or with "steady girlfriends".... but they don't get a lot of action with "other ladies" ??
If they were getting action with *other* ladies than their wives/girlfriends, I'd think that would count them out as being "nice" to most women.
I'm trying to get the concept here. They could get laid a lot, if they cheat on their spouses/SO's, is that it? | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 8:31:44 PM | Nice guys finish first other guys are losers
I disagree with everyone here . Every women , lady , girl is unique , one may apppreciate something that othhers dont. Ypu have to know how to read and understand a women , lady or girl if u do not know the basic fundamentals of this then it does not matter whether u are nice or not . I t is what u go after that counts . I am nice and gennerally send little gifts if i believe the women will appreciate it and if they dont call u back it is not becaues they were intimidated or your flowers were misrepresenting to them . I t ius cuz u were a loser in the first place and u would of gottten nowheree in a relationship with them from being naughty or nice . they did not like u to start so flowers or being a jerk would not help .
So just be yourself , confidence and the girl is yours . any more advice i charge by the min.. so i will see all u fish sinkiing and floating on top of the water soon cause it is my OCEAN. MIKE | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 7/22/2006 9:26:54 PM | I have a few nice friends who are either married or steady girlfriends. The only thing is they don't get a lot of action with other ladies because they are too nice.
Your statement is too f#cking funny! Talk about stating the obvious.
I mean really, that's quite a newsflash. Ya oughta phone the media or something eh.
I can see the headline now 'Nice guys are TOO nice to cheat on their partners'. Well, it is the dog days of summer eh...maybe there's nothing else worth running a headline about.
Sure would be a refreshing piece of good news compared to all the "we're sorry to Interupt the Simpsons but it seems the world is on the verge of some kinda global appocalype folks...we'll be right back after a word from our sponsors". | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 9/26/2006 12:12:21 AM | | As a nice guy I can say,that statement is true,I got so many different excuses,I wasn't trying to get a women to bed but, a conversation,food,a cold,beverage,that I finally had some introduction cards made up, then they told me they didn't call men,and they were right even after I called them,I'v probably gone out alone for so long the women think there must be something wrong with me,and going out alone is better than sitting at home alone,and let me tell you ,pricess charming does not make house calls,in fact she doesn't make calls at all,sex is nice ,sex is fun,I don't live by it,it is nice however to get that oppurtunity,so ladies,you meet that nice guy,you think"I don't need a relationship right now" I'v been told that,why would you presume to think you would,maybe your nice,pretty,funny,interesting,the guy might want to add a new friend to his life,you might need a new friend,maybe there's a problem in your life,maybe he can help,and yes,I'v seen women,with guys who were rude,mean,unkept,and jerks,not just a sometime jerk but an all the time jerk,and I look and think,I would rather stay alone than treat a women like that. | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 9/26/2006 3:26:07 AM | Most guys who claim to be "nice" aren't really all that nice, they're what I like to call pseudo-nice. These pseudo-nice guys often enter into a relationship with an eye on what they can get out of it, rather than what they can put into it.
As so many will deny this, but the fact is that most nice guys are "exceedingly nice" because they want to gain acceptance, and they hope [i.e. act needy] by behaving in a manner which is practicaly oozing with desperation, the give off the very impression they're creating. They're hungry, hopeful, "need" someone to like them, and they'll do anything, including beg if necessary to get it.
If you put on a show, you'll be treated like an actor. Women, don't want insincerity. A sincere nice guy, is really just a good guy. A mentally, physically mature, stable man.
Actors belong on stage, good guys get the girl. ***holes may get the girl temporarily, until the police are either called, or she's knocked up and he abandons her. Either way, a good guy would never date the type of girl who dates the ***hole -- that's a fact. She has too many red flags, and carries too much drama in her life.
Again, in the end, the 'good guy' wins, get's laid, gets the {good} girl, enjoys success, has peace of mind, has goals, has discipline, has patience, is honest, and most of all -- is challenging. He challenges those around him to grow, to expand, to learn, to "move" -- he "dares you to move."
Deny all you will folks -- only those who can't admit to themselves that I speak the truth are fooling themselves. Believe it or not there are "pseudo nice girls, and pseudo nice guys" There are "good girls, and there are good guys." Then last but not least, "***holes, and ****es."
You may think you're one, when the world sees you as another -- so start listening to what people are saying! | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 9/26/2006 3:36:14 AM | | I can't believe someone posted this....afterall if your just trying to get laid....their are plenty out there that are only interested in just that.....*Getting laid* Girls want to meet a nice guy so they can persue a relationship with and if the Nice guy just wants.....sex...then really how much of a nice guy can he be??? A player is a player regardless of how *Nice* the guy is...... | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 9/27/2006 4:42:57 AM |  I think nice is a word we often use too quickly, I think you need to know a person for a while to make that determination. People can be nice to get what they want, or they can be really a nice person who takes the concerns of others into consideration. Time will tell, ,, Nice guys may fiinish first, ,,, but a gentleman always finishes last ...... | |
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| Nice guys finish first sometimes.......but they just don't get laid a lot
Posted: 9/27/2006 4:55:08 PM | Well, I just got the "I don't think there's any chemistry / let's just be friends" text off a gorgeous girl after 2 dates.
Before the first date I decided I would be a real gentleman to her.
On the second date I got the hunch she was after another kind.
Am I bothered? No
Because I like to be with a gentle-woman who makes me WANT TO BE A BETTER PERSON.
A girl who doesn't like to be treated well will have you degenerating into a baztard - something you may never have been.
Surely, if you're a true gent your friends would see whether she was right for you.
Accept it move on, and HAVE FAITH IN THE PERSON YOU ARE NOT WHAT A WOMAN WANTS YOU TO BE. | |
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