| | No jobs in New Brunswick?Page 2 of 2 (1, 2) | | Power to you! Most aren’t as fortunate as you are. People who do well here should stay. I have a house as well. In Moncton and paid for! This message wasn’t dedicated to the few select fortunate to have found work here in their field of expertise whatever it is. It’s for the ones who have to settle in call centers despite $60,000.00 worth of student loans. As for the job market, Universities are excellent in Marketing. They teach it! They will easily bullshit anyone in order to enroll their programs. Again, those who do good here should stay here, as I would as well. Others, well up to them to starve here or leave. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/5/2006 5:39:20 PM |
no jobs in New Brunswick?
They're there if you took the time to look.....I've been applying to jobs left, right and centre for the past three weeks. I must have sent out about 15 resumes by now! I guess it all depends on what you're looking for?!?!? | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/5/2006 5:52:33 PM | | I don’t think you read my previous posts on this very same thread. I sent out 700 resumes total since 2004. There are jobs yes, in limited number. Not much for professionals other than for those who have a Master completed and 10 years plus experience. How much does the 15 jobs of so that you applied for pay? Remember that 100s of highly qualified and desperate people applied for the very same jobs. Applying for jobs here is the easy part. Getting one that makes sense is another. You have to go West to see what job opportunities mean, otherwise it’s impossible to even imagine. | |
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Posted: 9/6/2006 1:39:45 AM | Why is it so difficult to just pass in an application, resume and get a job here...By job, I mean..full time, 40-44 hours a week guaranteed.
But no... Alot of places hire "temporary full time" so they can save on benefit and taxes while they lose from high turnover. Theres also lots of hiring from placement agencies with the promise of full time employment and then when your 3 months through the placement service is up...goodbye. Then we have the all notorious EI scheme where you're on the pokey, looking for a job and you get handed something that is paying you your EI plus maybe 20-30% over that.
Now I've seen the best one yet. If I get hired from a temp agency to the company I am working for (through temp agency right now) then I don't get paid extra for working holidays until I rack up 900 hours. Everything just reeks of bullsh¿t around here. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/6/2006 3:53:11 PM | I thought I'd post to this one as I'm an NB ex-pat that the Lord Gov't is trying to lure back.
I had a good paying job in SJ. I saw the shipyard close, talk about closing Pt. Lepreau, pulp mills being shutdown or production pulled back, any technical jobs evaporating. I saw a wave of over-qualified technical personnel with more hands on experience than I starting to work "temp" around me.
I had student loans, car debt, etc. and was finding at the end of the month I had nothing to show. On a lark I applied for a job in ON, after a 20 minute phone interview, they asked me when I could start. I asked them to send me the offer. I took it into my boss, and asked what can you do for me (job security and/or pay increase) he said and I quote, "I know you ____, there is no way you'd leave NB, life is too good here." I said "Oh yeah, we'll see in two weeks then." Two weeks came and went, I asked if he did anything and he said no. I handed him my resignation and didn't look back. That was 5-1/2 years ago and I don't see me ever going back. My parents have dreams of it, but I said "I'll see you when I'm 60, your house will make a nice retirement pad." 
The difference being if I lost my job down there I would've drown, here I have opportunities abound. I never liked that I was a slave to a company that knew I had no option to leave. I have even turned down unsolicited jobs at my NB company, as I don't want to ever be in that position again. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/6/2006 8:15:35 PM | there are tons of jobs! but its us canadain that arent willing to take the dirty jobs. its the people from other countreis that are willing to do them and work the long hours. most young kids want the cash before the work is done. alot of work ethic starts at home. there jobs but in most cases jobs will no handed to you on a silver platter too.
ram | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/6/2006 8:36:28 PM | Hello to all...
As a former resident of NB and now living in Alberta, just adding my 2 bits and observations.
First off, yes housing out west is expensive and rising due to supply and demand, but with some effort , a decent rental can be found. Although if it is a whole family moving , that can be a little more of a challenge.
Secondly, I am in Calgary and yes there is a rise in crime such as drugs, or killings, but those are limited mainly to the type of people in that lifestyle...4 am shooting on a deserted road is not usually an issue for the working people who are in bed before that.
Thirdly, I agree the lifestyles are VERY different...I have had visitors come west and they did not like the pace or expanse of the city, Calgary from the northeast corner to the southwest is over 35 kms in distance, so the traffic and commute is a major adjustment.
But to all who are thinking of the west, do some research, and make some calls, have a place to stay(friends,relatives, tent) when you arrive, a job to start and you can give it an honest shot. I still like to come back and visit for a week or 2 a couple times a year as the area is great, people are always still friendly and besides, still have family in the area.
Anyone looking for more info, send me an e-mail, maybe I can help...enjoy where you live and are in the life, cause the only person who can change it is you... | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/7/2006 1:48:46 AM | "I believe that if you get the proper education, you will have no trouble getting a job here in New Brunswick. Take me for instance... I went to Université de Moncton in education and as soon as I graduated, I got a teaching job. I pretty much applied all over Canada and got 2 offers back to back. The first one was in Toronto and the second one in Rogersville. I decided to stay in New Brunswick because the cost of living is so high in Toronto. I have lots of student loan debts... and have trouble making ends meet... but I'm surviving. I love my school and could not imagine myself anywhere else... at least for now. The nice thing about teaching is that you can do it pretty much anywhere in the world.
My brother also went to university for many years... and is now a lawyer. He's working for the provincial government in Saint John... nice desk job... making decent money."
A) part of the issue is why would you pay for university in NB(which is very expensive given how poorly most of our schools are rated compared to other places), and then work in a province that isn't willing to pay you as much?
B) There are no shortage of desk jobs that require university. There's just an extreme shortage of all other types of jobs, and what is available is underpaying. Flipping burgers for 7 dollars an hour is considered a career to some people here, | |
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Posted: 9/7/2006 1:52:36 AM | "Your profile still says Hamilton. Were you out there and back or are you still in Hamilton?"
In the process of moving. Just waiting on my training camp info before I leave this damnable swamp province. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/7/2006 2:51:29 PM | | I could be wrong... but when I went to university here in New Brunswick, I'm pretty sure the tuition was comparable to other universities in Canada. In fact, I'm also pretty sure it was cheaper than most. I don't know what the situation is right now though. I heard it went up lately. And as far as pay goes... New Brunswick teachers have it pretty good. The starting salary is $40,000 a year. We just finished negotiations last year and got a nice pay increase as well. I'm in my 3rd year of teaching and already up quite a few thousands. Like I said, the cost of living here (real estate especially) is just so much more affordable which is why I choose to stay. This is just my own personal situation though. Don't get me wrong... sometimes I am very angry at the system. I do have a lot of student loan debts which are quite annoying. My student loan payment is equal to my mortgage payment. I'm paying a little over $400 a month in student loan payments. Kinda ridiculous eh? I wish the govt. would offer some incentive to graduates who stay in the province... you know... give us a break on our student loan debt. or something. *sigh* So between student loan payments, mortgage, car payment, insurance, bills, groceries, gas... money is pretty tight. I just figure that it would be even worse if I lived elsewhere where apartments and housing are so costly. So there you have it... that's my reasoning on why I choose to stay in New Brunswick. I love traveling... but it's good to come home. | |
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Posted: 9/7/2006 3:38:18 PM | Working in the Maritimes is great!... I do quite well for myself here in NB....Sure ...companies out west are trying to lure people out there with $$ but you have to rationalize it.
Personally for me, recruiters have come after me not only from out west and Ontario but LA, New York, Chicago, etc...The ywoudl simple have to offer me 3 times what I make here to make it worthwile....
It is all about what you are planning on doing with that money.
OK, I can easily make $20,000 grand more in Ontario for starters. But here in NB I have a home in Moncton and a Chalet in PEI. For what I paid for both of these places here.... I would only be able to buy a home similar to my Moncton home and the chalet on PEI goes POOF!!!
For those that to go out west..I would work in a camp for a few years in which the company pays ur exspences....and invest in real Estate back home....cause you are all gonna come back.... | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/7/2006 5:26:33 PM | It’s official. I’m leaving. Got an offer for 32.00 an hour plus 16,000.00 for relocation. I pay 550.00 for a filthy apartment here in Saint John and I found one for 650.00 in Fort Saint John in Northern BC and way better than this one. I also have a house which is paid for in Moncton but chose not to put up with abuse at call centers for 12.00 an hour. Even with my house paid for, I’m still far better off out West financially. Mainly I got respect from my employer, which is priceless. It’s good to have your ass licked once for a change instead of licking countless employer’s just to get shit on in return. I will miss the ocean, the lighthouses but mainly the climate during the winter. On the other hand, I could live without financial worries and the continuous temporary jobs for piddle wage.
As for the cost of living, it depends where you go. In and around Edmonton it’s CHEAPER than Fredericton and Moncton. Yes, I mean housing and apartment. The market exploded in Calgary, Fort McMurray… In fact, everywhere there’s oil. But with oil comes very high income. Remember this; Buying a house for 300,000.00 is a hell of a bargain up there right now. Next year the same house will sell for 450,000.00 and a profit of 150,000.00. This is exactly what I have in mind. As for food, meat is cheaper, dairy product a little more but the rest is the same. Gas is 1,04.00 in Alberta but 1,20.00 in BC. Restaurant and other activities are 20% more in average but because they pay $12,00.00 and up an hour.
However, going out West isn’t for everyone. If you don’t know anyone and don’t have a trade or education, it could be hard. They will pay 20.00 and hour for labors in the oilfields, room and board, transportation and all. However, you must take 2 weeks of First Aid and Safety training for about 500.00$ before getting a job. If you don’t have a place to stay for these 2 weeks, you’re screwed big time! After these 2 weeks, you’ll make lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$. I’m a Paramedic. I can buy a truck and provide Emergency First Aid in the Oilfield. They pay 600.00$ a day plus 1.25 a km. I could bring 20,000.00$ a month before tax. That’s $200,000.00 a year to sit in truck handing band aids. However, I accepted a job for a Hospital with a 2-year commitment.
If you’re a welder! Get a truck and a gas powered welding rig. They’ll pay 100.00$ an hour plus 1.25$ per km. You want to drive heavy equipment? You’ll start as a labor. They will pay an 8-week course and you’ll make 37.00 an hour to start. Remember that they give company shares, dividends on shares at the end of the year and countless other initiatives. They’ll give you money for your house down payment as a way to keep you there ect…
There’s a lot of $$$$$$ and endless opportunities up there. Only sky and your imagination is the limit. I can contract First Aid and Safety training and pull 1000.00 a weekend plus my regular job.
Most people in the Oilfields will have free flight every 3 weeks to come back here for a week if they want. They can enjoy NB and make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. How about that?
The ones that will not do that great are the non-skilled flipping burgers. They will pay 12.00$ - 15.00$ but if you’re in an area living off Oil and Gas, cost of housing will not compensate.
Some of you are skeptical. I was as well. That was until I went up myself. It smelled money everywhere I went! Ok, it’s beautiful here; we have the ocean and all. Try the Rockies! Try the National parks out West! Some smaller communities are to avoid when raising kids. They have huge drugs and alcohol problems. However, I chose not to do it myself so what….
I don’t want to sound like I’m bashing this province. I’m saying that life is miserable for most. The average salary in most part of the province is $24,000.00 per person. This is unacceptable. I lived in Saint John for the past year, in the North End. I saw such misery and poverty that it really affected me.
I talked to countless people out West and none would come back to be poor and broke. We hear testimony on this forum from people who left and will not come back. A very few states it’s not worth to go, but I believe that these people never went so their opinion isn’t verified information.
Allicat, you know that a starting salary of $40,000.00 for someone who did a 5 year Degree is totally ridiculous. This is what NB does to people. Wages are so low that it makes us believe that we are doing well with very little. To top it all, they make us believe that we are so fortunate to make that much! Starting wage is $30,000.00 for Loblaws in Alberta for God’s sake! Cost of living in Edmonton per example is LOWER than here! Yes including apartments!
Good luck to you all up here. I mean it! I’ll come back to visit you next year, with my duel wheel Diesel truck…lol, unless I go to Mexico since I’ll be able to afford to go South twice a year. I went 3 times in 16 months when out West in 2005.
This is what I mean about moving West! Life is short and I wont wait for NB to get it’s head out it’s ass to work on an action plan to provide real opportunities for it’s people. I will come back yes, but with lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ then, it’s be ok to work for shitty wages. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/7/2006 8:10:35 PM | My sister has two University degrees and just got a job in a call center making 13/hr, I graduated from college last summer after having done the call center thing and burning out. I am making less now in my "chosen field" then I was 3 years ago working at a call center. I now have student loans that I cannot afford to repay and am struggling to make ends meet. Why did I go to college to get a degree and better myself to make this little? Oh sure I could move to Alberta and get a job at Tim Hortons dishing out coffee for 17/hr but that's not why I went back to school at 25!!! I love my job but I definately think that what I do is worth more than the measly amount I am paid. I hold people's lives in my hands everyday and am paid less than someone with just a highschool degree (if that) working in a call center. Sure I know the sh!t that you put up with working there, I've done it myself, but I definately think that we as a whole are not being treated fairly. NB is pushing it's young people right out the door and into the welcome arms of the West.
It's time to take care of ourselves and make sure that the Maritimes stays a beautiful place for our children. And not a part of the country that relies on welfare or EI. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/8/2006 3:19:39 AM | "I could be wrong... but when I went to university here in New Brunswick, I'm pretty sure the tuition was comparable to other universities in Canada"
Most universities here are on par with other Canadian universities, however, the average income a student can make is so much less that its rediculous.
I came out of university spending an average of 15 thousand dollars a year. That is about the maximum you can make without working full time. All that included was university, none of the partying/smoking/general extras. | |
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Posted: 9/8/2006 4:19:51 AM | | Sunflowers, I just got a job as a Recruiting Consultant for a Health Authority in BC and am leaving in 2 weeks. Our Cooks make 18.73 at the hospital and housekeeping starts at 17.00. Your setting prevents me from messaging you but I could have given you leads in Health Authorities up there. They hired a Rehab Assistant last week, flew him from Toronto, and gave him 7,000 for relocation and 21,00 an hour to start. You would be in that range. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/8/2006 12:45:50 PM | Thanks, it was nice but no thanks. I want more than a job. I want respect, opportunities, and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ | |
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Posted: 9/8/2006 3:05:24 PM | Well I still have to say there is money to be made in NB and the Maritimes. I am pretty close to topping the 6 figure mark this year.
Altho I would love to take in some of the things that big cities offer such as NHL games... It all comes down to where I want to be at the end of a workday...where I can chill and relax. It is great to see some of my friends go out west and make money in the trades, but in my profession. I am already doiing well here. I just hope my freinds spend there money wisely.  | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/8/2006 3:39:48 PM | | You’re doing well, that’s cool! The average annual income is 24,000.00$ in NB. You’re the exception but certainly not the rule. | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/8/2006 4:09:13 PM | ohh... And I am a PEI islander....and I had to move to NB to do better! lol | |
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| No jobs in New Brunswick?
Posted: 9/8/2006 4:34:26 PM | | Power to you! But please show respect for those who starve in this province! | |
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