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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/16/2006 6:33:27 PM | | well op went checked'er out and i am intp which was no real surprise but what does it mean?? | |
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Posted: 9/16/2006 6:51:09 PM | I'm looking forward to doing one of the other tests on the site referenced by calisparkle (here's the blurb from the site - I found the personality type so very useful in the past that I expect this one to be very helpful too):
Jung Marriage Test
Good and stable relationships between partners are conducive to happy marriage. We often don't know what is the reason of our conflicts. Identification of relationships between mates is one of the main problems in matchmaking. Marriage test challenges these problems.
According to the Jung - Myers-Briggs typology all people can be classified using four criteria:
Extraversion - Introversion
Sensing - Intuition
Thinking - Feeling
Judging - Perceiving
A type formula of the person is denoted by the combination of criteria. For example:
ENFP - Extravert INtuitive Feeling Perceiving
There may be sixteen types. Once you know the type formula and strength of the preferences for each mate in a matching couple, it is possible to calculate the index of informational compatibility (IC) between the partners. IC is of a such great importance that, practically, its role is a decisive one in the partners' relationships.
A high IC ensures good and stable long-term relations. If the partners' IC is low, then in the vast majority of cases the relationships are subject to conflict.
You will discover matching indices for your particular couple and proposals on the optimal behavior as a result of the test. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/16/2006 8:43:13 PM | I took the test and it says I'm an introvert too
*ISTJ
about 10% of the population.
Quiet, no nonsense, dependable, distaste for the exotic and fanciness. Neat
and orderly home, a preference for antiques as furnishings, conservative in dress,
eye for detail. Others with this personality type are:
Warren Buffett
Queen ElizabethII
Harry Truman
John D. Rockefellow
The descrption of my tastes in dress, home furnishings
and dis-tastes.. as well as the other general
description are correct... but nobody I know would call me an introvert...
as I am not afraid of people or crowds, no problems communicating in public or
any fears of people, crowds... etc. ( not that I like crowds or lots of people
around me but I manage pretty good ).
I do have a distaste for gossip and people who are fullashyt
(dishonest, irresponsible), which the test
seems to verify.
I dont know what to make of the test... I took this kind of test years ago and
it didnt mean much to me, then either... LOL
to add: I do not feel the statements in post 1 are valid as an introvert is not
more intelligent or independent than an extrovert. thats just hogwash. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2006 12:05:59 AM |
as I am not afraid of people or crowds, no problems communicating in public or
any fears of people, crowds... etc. ( not that I like crowds or lots of people
around me but I manage pretty good ).
That is the point that I have been trying to make. Introverts are not shy. I know I'm an introvert, but I can be the life of the party, I can walk into a room, capture everybodys attention, have them hanging on my every move and every word. However, I only act like that when I want too, which isn't the majority of the time. Most of the time i like to hang in the background and watch other people in the group.
I had a feeling you would actually be an introvert. You pissed me off in a big way ever since I came on these forums. But, I have noticed that you have multipule persona's when posting. Sometimes you're rude and arrogant(But I think you're just trying to have fun when you do that), other times you are well thought out and informative.
I believe that if someone is able to change there percievable personality as drastically as you can, it means they are introvert. Because you find meaning and truth within yourself. Your extrovert side, which is well developed, is also changable. The extrovert side of you is changable, because you're not really changing you, you're changing your alter-ego or inventing a new one.
I do have a distaste for gossip and people who are fullashyt
As do I. I have ended friendships because of that. There are some people that believe every rumor and piece of gossip they hear, which is stupid. It's stupid simply because of the law of the purple-monkey-dishwasher. Someone say's something to somebody and it's usually not the truth, usuallly has some embelishments on it. Then it travels through any number of people who add their own embelishments. By the time it gets to you, it doesn't resemble the truth in anyway.
to add: I do not feel the statements in post 1 are valid as an introvert is not
more intelligent or independent than an extrovert. thats just hogwash.
I agree with the part about introverts not being more intelligent. However, I feel we are more intelligent in what most people usually think shows intelligence. Such as problem solving, math, science etc... But extroverts are just as intelligent in area's that are not generally seen as a sign of intelligence, but are. Such as interpersonal skills, thinking on your feet, and charisma. Both intro's and extro's can be gifted and intelligent, just in different aspects of life, generally.
I do, however, think that introverts are more independant than extroverts, simply by the definition of introvert. We rely on ourselves. We do have a huge need to feel connected to other people, which I think is usually achieved through a few close and strong bonds with a one or two friends and family. I also think that introverts are more likely to be clingy or needy in a romantic relationship. That kind of relationship is difficult for most introverts to find, once they do, they want to hold on to it so badly that they can end up ending it by paying too much attention, and not knowing how to pay attention properly, because they are inroverts and lack good interpersonal skills. However if you can find an introvert that knows how to proceed in romantic relationships, I think you might find that they are very independent because the only person they really rely on, is themselves. | |
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Posted: 9/19/2006 12:59:19 PM | | I think a lot depends on the enviroment that exists and that a person creates................today I can be in the middle of a million people, and feel alone, but not sad or........in the middle of a remote valley and feel full and complete........I use to do a lot of horseback riding alone, in the hills of Virginia, it gave me great energy, of which I could pass it on when I got together with friends........I can enjoy a loud person, but not 24-7, yet you need to be assertive to survive in the big city sometimes... | |
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Posted: 9/19/2006 1:10:54 PM | Did you know? Extroverts tolerate bad robot behaviour much better than introverts.
Kerstin Dautenhahn, professor of artificial intelligence at the University of Hertfordshire, has been running tests with 1.3-metre-high robots trundling around an apartment to see how volunteers react to their presence. "Imagine you have a robot assistant in your home 24/7. How should it approach you? How should it attract your attention? That's what we are investigating," she says.
Her group was surprised to find that people dislike it not only when robots approach them from behind, but also when they approach from the front. This reaction was more pronounced when people were sitting down. It also emerged that extroverts tolerate bad robot behaviour much better than introverts.
ref: http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/mg19125696.200;jsessionid=FOOLFPEJLKON
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I guess introverts prefer good manners moreso than extroverts. I'm not sure how this helps the discussion, but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere anymore anyway! | |
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Posted: 9/19/2006 1:20:58 PM | | ^^^I doubt that's about manners. Extroverts just appreciate company and interaction more -- whether it's with a badly behaved robot or a person... They are more welcoming to outside distraction, whatever form it takes. | |
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Posted: 9/19/2006 1:55:30 PM | I'll concur with Nipoleon.
We are in a society that rewards the extrovert, especially so in the dating world. The general consensus, sadly, is that this is some sign of prowess and bravado that makes this particular person stand above the rest. Nothing could be further from the truth. As has been spoken thusfar, I do see extroverts as spoilers because, as is often obvious, I see (or know of) visible and clear signs that the extroverts afront isn't usually substanciated with much substance. However, an introvert may be highly successful, even talkative, and yet doesn't lead with the chin. Therefore, the introvert often loses out. It happens across the board, in business, and in personal relations. In the end, I'll keep being an introvert. Sooner or later it will have dividends. And in truth (sorry extro's) introverts are widely considered of a higher intellect.
(Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark)
Power to the introverts haha
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Posted: 9/19/2006 6:29:35 PM | As My Secret Life pointed out in msg #11; the OP seems to be taken directly from "Caring for Your Introvert" by Jonathan Rauch; which appeared in the March 2003 "Atlantic Monthly". Very good article, btw, for those who wish to look it up.
I consider myself an introvert, and find Mr. Rauch's words to ring true: " For introverts, to be alone with our thoughts is as restorative as sleeping, as nourishing as eating. Our motto: I'm okay, you're okay -- in small doses."
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Posted: 9/19/2006 6:48:03 PM | And in truth (sorry extro's) introverts are widely considered of a higher intellect.
(Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark)
Power to the introverts haha
Nothing speaks more of lower intelligence then having to bring someone down to elevate oneself. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 3:01:50 AM | There are also qualities about introverts that keep them from forming longterm relationships...I have been going out with an introvert and it's like pulling teeth on how he feels? I don't like "assuming" anything and would rather communicate than think that there is something wrong when in fact ..he retreats into his "shell" while I am with him...
I am not an introvert or an extrovert..kind of like in the middle..I have books to read that I have not gotten around to reading....I have a bike..I have a camera..I have tickets to events.
I like going to art fairs..theme parks and concerts..but when your with an introvert..it's hard to get this person to come to terms with crowds of people.
I did get him to to an event..we walked up to a crowd where a juggler was juggling in the street...we were standing together one minute than the next he was standing away from me outside the circle of people. Couple holding hands and laughing together while I stood there watching alone...
We have been compromising..so I should not complain.... | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 4:55:51 AM | | Id call myself fairly introvert. I prefer small groups of people, and one on one talk rather than larger groups. I also much prefer only having a few friends of value than a big circle of aquantances. Id hope thats true of most introverts, unfortunatly ive also experienced being completely cut out by an ex who was very aloof. Perhaps its easier for introverts to just cut people off like that and leave, im not sure. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 5:44:57 AM | MSg 241 Ochun says
Nothing speaks more of lower intelligence then having to bring someone down to elevate oneself.
Dear Ochun friend
I only report what is commonly known fact. IF I were trying to up oneself by trying to demean another, I'd simply say your just an ignooramuus (haha) But as it were, I was speaking in generalities, in fact, I'm repeating the same information I've read in other threads .
Perhaps you should copy/paste all of those others (introverts) who've made similar claims, in THIS thread, regarding intellect among intro's/extro's, before attacking just me. You wouldn't want to leave out all those others, would you? IF you did leave them out, and you purposefully targetted me, then perhaps you yourself are guilty of trying to diminish my character, individually, in which case, you most certainly are trying to elevate oneself at anothers expense.
OR,.... have you not bothered reading those msgs that came before me. Why dont' you check out all the other threads, gather up all of those authors who feel as I do, (roughly 50%, I'm sure), put us all in a bracket, and then explain why it is we're all wrong, rather than just attacking me.
You feel me, compadre>?
comprende, amigo?
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Posted: 9/20/2006 6:07:03 AM | I'm an introvert.
I think we are confused with extroverts on these sites because we tend to WRITE more and delay the CHATTER stage until we are ready.
Extroverts will jump into the Instant Message thing sooner, I think. Lots of TYPING means less talking in person.
Do Introverts and Extroverts make better couples or should the types stick with the same? | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 6:15:00 AM | Hi fellow INTP!!!!!!!!!!
What type should we be searching for here??????? I read in a LoveTypes book that we are best matched with INTJ's, ESTJ's and some other T. Never with F's. We just can't spare the energy of even one needless fight.......the thing Feelers need to help them test the fabric of the relationship. They end up with their 'results' and I am ready to be institutionalized!!! LOL.
INTP's just aren't fighters.
Anyway, why fight? I just want the correct answer, I don't have to be the one who came up with it. And, if I do choose my own answer, I don't need to have the other person agree with me, so why spend any time selling my answer to them? LOL. It amuses me when they stick with an incorrect position, however...that provides me with so much helpful information about them, their problem-solving skills, their logic, their maturity, powers of observation, listening skills, integrity...why argue the point? I might pre-maturely win the argument and miss all of the above information about the way their thinking (or lack thereof). | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 6:17:40 AM | Ochun and ManeRider
I only report what is commonly known fact. IF I were trying to up oneself by trying to demean another, I'd simply say your just an ignooramuus (haha) But as it were, I was speaking in generalities, in fact, I'm repeating the same information I've read in other threads .
Before you get into a war of minds and words, why don’t you ponder this first.
Introverts are generally regarded as more intelligent because of their analytical skills, problem solving skills. As well as being gifted in math and sciences.
Extroverts are generally regarded as having excellent inter-personal skills, charisma an ability to think on their feet, better instincts and better at communicating.
Now my question is, why is one set of traits considered to be more intelligent than the other? One set of traits will produce a rocket scientist and the other will produce the president of your country. Are you going to tell me that your president is not intelligent? (Current president excluded of course) | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 6:27:28 AM | I am an Introvert when I want to meditate, reflect on transgressions, cleanse my chakras and focus on my still small voice within. I am an extrovert when I want to reach out and share the mysteries of life with others and enrich my soul development thru cooperation and service to others.
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Posted: 9/20/2006 6:32:14 AM | Forty six
Thanks for your input.
I was feeling singled-out, and wanted to point out the fact that, it was not meerly I who made such preface in this thread, regarding intellect, and therefore, the comments should be directed at a whole, instead of on an individual level. It would have been more appropriate to accuse "ALL" those authors who wrote in similar fashion as I have.
But you're right on many accords. (especially by denouncing our current head of state)
Cheers M8
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Posted: 9/20/2006 7:30:09 AM | Good Lord, is that another introvert trait....paranoia??? LOL Sorry if you felt singled out, I wasn't trying to bash you. Unfortunately I think that this thread brought out alot of good points but at the same time it served as a forum for SOME to bash extroverts because of their frustrations. Like Introverts, extroverts can't help being the way they are, and they have their own issues to deal with. It's not always a walk in the park for us either.
If you were to read this entire post, that's if you have the energy, you will see that I have responded on various ocassions, regarding the same topic. I'm not going to sit here and copy and paste everyone's response, one I find that's rather anal and two, I have better things to do with my time, like playing the social butterfly. LOL
I like the response above yours and he does make a valid point. Both introverts and extroverts have good things to bring to the table and we each shine in our own way. As an extrovert it does bother me when someone implies I'm not intelligent or less so then others, when I have the degrees to prove that I am. I guess that's another wonderful extrovert characteristic, our sensitivity. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 7:31:12 AM | I agree with the above post...
this thread seems to be a way to bash extroverts.
I like extroverts... they are fun. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 7:56:26 AM | FYI, Ochun,
I just took the jung/myer test and found I'm borderline with more extroverted tendancies.
(I've always viewed myself being the introvert)
Kinda makes ya wonder, huh?
In short, I'm not one to lead with the chin, and I've watched opportunity pass by as a result of my hesitant nature. Something to ponder now, as I see myself being the person I've recently criticized. HAHA | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 8:10:16 AM | manerider ---> Don't fret. Don't limit your life experiences by self-imposed lables. Be an introvert when it provides the support you need and an extrovert when it is equally applicable. We all have the ability to be both. We are too quick to choose our limitations in life.
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Posted: 9/20/2006 8:47:01 AM | In short, I'm not one to lead with the chin, and I've watched opportunity pass by as a result of my hesitant nature. Something to ponder now, as I see myself being the person I've recently criticized. HAHA
Being hesitant does not make you an introvert, that makes you shy or insecure in that particular situation. Now I’m not bashing on you for saying insecure. I am one of the most secure people I know, however you ask me to weld up a stair case and I’m going to be a little insecure with my abilities to do that because I’ve never welded. (I’ve only spattered lol)
Bashing extroverts was not the intent of this thread. That has not stopped the bashing from happening. But I have to say after much contemplation, analyzing all points of view, testing my theories and collaborating with higher powers on the subject, I came to this decision. Tuff Titties
I say that lightheartedly. Seriously, this is one thread among thousands on one website among millions. If you don’t like the little bit of bashing that has gone on, don’t read the thread! It’s as simple as that. Introverts, we can’t escape the bashing that goes on all the time. Being referred to as losers, loners, socially inept, being told by superiors at work that don’t understand the term, that we need to change who we are, and until we do we are handicapped.
Introverts are bashed every single day of their lives. Not really an excuse or permission slip for intro’s to bash extro’s, which is why I’ve tried not to do that personally. But I do have difficulty feeling sympathetic for you being bashed.
For those of you, who have felt that you’ve been bashed on this thread, step that bashing up about 10 notches than live with it for the rest of your life. Then you will be able to complain to an introvert about being bashed.
I’m going to reiterate a point again. The statements made in post 1 are generalizations. Because, generally they are true, take a large sample of the population, run tests on them and you’ll find the results will pretty much fall in line with what has been said. There are just too many variables to apply this to an individual for my feelings. Extroverts can be rocket scientist, introverts can and have been president.
All this was really intended to do, was help us better understand each other. Try and help people realize that the hot guy or girl that you think is shy and aloof, may not be shy at all. If you take a different approach with them then is normal, you may find something amazing. What if you are an extrovert and your soul requires an introvert to be completed. If you think all intro's are geeks, blah blah blah, you'll never be complete. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2006 4:20:51 PM | My favorite E basher comment is that I's "Load brain before firing mouth"
Seriously, it takes all kinds (and there are a few billion kinds on this planet). Imagine having a brainstorming session with a bunch of Introverts, dead silence..
I test out on the Myers-Briggs as an INTP, and on the Enneagram as a type 5, and according to Strengthsfinder I am strong on Input, Learner, Adaptability, Maximizer, Intellection
My take on all of this personality type stuff is that they are INDICATORS, not ABSOLUTES...makes for interesting conversation (witness how fast this thread got humongous!)... I'm surprised that no one has started a dating site where the only stuff you put in are your personality scores (maybe thats what E-Haromony does???)
Love all my I's and E's and 1 thru 9's...well...maybe not 8's. | |
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