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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/25/2006 8:56:57 AM | Msg 280 : Yes he did talk about intelligence...Here's to feed your lazyiness ;) :
The reason for this is introverts are more intelligent, more reflective, more independent, more level-headed, more refined, and more sensitive than extroverts.
This is pretty much the sentence that shocked me. | |
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ousu
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/25/2006 9:12:39 AM | | Melia79, thanks... so skip the intelligence part - after all, there are different types of intelligence, and the topic is not that simple that an article could be all-embracing. I would suggest to go directly to Mr Jung and read a bit more about this. Not to mention, to use one's own intelligence for making the conclutions :) | |
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Posted: 10/25/2006 10:50:48 AM | Fantastic post, forty-six!!
So what to do with an introvert? First recognize that it’s not a choice, it’s not a lifestyle, and it’s an orientation. Second, when you see an introvert in deep thought, don’t ask them what’s wrong? Or, are you alright? Third don’t say anything else either. Fourth when they’re done with their deep thoughts ask them what they were thinking about.
EXACTLY. It's frustrating have to explain time after time why I'm staring off into space. No, I'm not bored; no, I don't want to go home; and yes, I'm having fun -- just give me a few minutes to myself. It's annoying to have that thought mode interrupted by questions...
My best friend is an extrovert, which can be frustrating at times...I have to admit that I wonder why she's hung around for so many years when, at our very cores, we are exact opposites. She's constantly worried that I'm not enjoying myself, assuming I'm shy or bored. Often, I feel too "boring" for her.
She doesn't understand why I go to the theatre alone or why I go days without calling her. She must think I'm a horrible friend, but I can't help myself. People drain me. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/25/2006 3:06:18 PM | " Do you know someone who needs hours alone everyday? Who loves quiet conversations about feelings or idea’s, and can give a dynamite presentation to a big audience, but seems awkward in small groups and inept at small talk? "
I totally agree. I see myself as an introvert but some of my friends don't believe me. I am studying to be a teacher and have done sales pitches in front of dozens of important people and I loved it. We are not afraid of people per se, it becomes more difficult with like 2-5 people. I get a long great with one or two people, but it's groups that usually tend to quiet me down.
I think you were also dead-on about the being alone comment. I will sometimes have lunch or go shopping alone and people think this is a tragedy. They are always rushing to come and save me from being lonely - hey! it's good to be alone sometimes! It let's you be you, and not have the influence from other people.
Viva los introverts | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/25/2006 3:14:17 PM | " Do you know someone who needs hours alone everyday? Who loves quiet conversations about feelings or idea’s, and can give a dynamite presentation to a big audience, but seems awkward in small groups and inept at small talk? "
I totally agree. I see myself as an introvert but some of my friends don't believe me. I am studying to be a teacher and have done sales pitches in front of dozens of important people and I loved it. We are not afraid of people per se, it becomes more difficult with like 2-5 people. I get a long great with one or two people, but it's groups that usually tend to quiet me down.
I think you were also dead-on about the being alone comment. I will sometimes have lunch or go shopping alone and people think this is a tragedy. They are always rushing to come and save me from being lonely - hey! it's good to be alone sometimes! It let's you be you, and not have the influence from other people.
Viva los introverts | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/25/2006 3:14:44 PM | " Do you know someone who needs hours alone everyday? Who loves quiet conversations about feelings or idea’s, and can give a dynamite presentation to a big audience, but seems awkward in small groups and inept at small talk? "
I totally agree. I see myself as an introvert but some of my friends don't believe me. I am studying to be a teacher and have done sales pitches in front of dozens of important people and I loved it. We are not afraid of people per se, it becomes more difficult with like 2-5 people. I get a long great with one or two people, but it's groups that usually tend to quiet me down.
I think you were also dead-on about the being alone comment. I will sometimes have lunch or go shopping alone and people think this is a tragedy. They are always rushing to come and save me from being lonely - hey! it's good to be alone sometimes! It let's you be you, and not have the influence from other people.
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/25/2006 9:26:20 PM |
Having to listen to their 98% content-free talk.... I can’t wait for the day when it won’t be impolite to say, “I’m an introvert. You are a wonderful person and I like you, but for now, please shush”[/unquote]
My thoughts exactly! I'm very comfortable being an introvert but I am also outgoing and friendly at times. While some chatty people can be entertaining, I really treasure the very few quiet moments I have in my day. I find it exhausting to be around people that need to talk endlessly and I tend to avoid them. At least introverts don't intrude in your comfort zone or private space. Everything in moderation. | |
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Posted: 10/29/2006 8:40:29 AM | When I took the test I came out 100% introverted. This didn't seem to surprise my friends as much as it surprised me....
Last night I went to my best friends birthday party which was held in a bar.....I drank a few but not wanting to be inebriated on the long ride home I stopped there....the entire bar seemed filled with drunken people acting REALLY STUPID.....I know this couldn't be entirely true but thought about the test and realized I had been there three hours, long enough to have a pseudo screaming conversation with my friend, dance a little with another old friend, appreciate the nice halloween costumes and the thought and effort put into them....
So I went on home and for once, didn't feel guilty at all....so many people said "you must be tired"....no, totally bored. I ran into another old friend there who said she didn't understand how I could converse with people on the computer. To her it was completely boring....
Just different temperaments, that's all......we need both kinds in the world for balance..... | |
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Posted: 10/29/2006 9:43:57 AM | When you make things too simplistic like this post has it just doesn't ring true. I've met a lot of people who can talk forever about nothing but I consider them shallow, immature and in some cases ignorant. That doesn't make them an extrovert. They just like to talk to hear themselves talk.
A true extrovert may talk more than most people but they have a message. They tend to be leaders.
I think you've confussed the high school cheer leaders and the CEO's here OP. Extroverts ESPECIALLY can't be peg one way or the other.
I'm definitely an extrovert because I HAVE to be due to my job. However, I REALLY enjoy my alone time after I've spent hours on the phone with idiots who can't and don't even try to understand issues I've contacted them about. I know what I'm talking about, I say it directly but then have to find very simplistic language to finally get some of these idiots to even begin to understand. Not all extroverts are less intelligent than you OP. As a matter of fact a lot of them are probably MORE intelligent than you. | |
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Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 286 | |
| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/29/2006 9:57:12 AM | Serenity,
A true extrovert may talk more than most people but they have a message. They tend to be leaders.
Not exactly true. The question still is about (if we talk about Jung categories, not about how we "see" people to behave) gaining and losing the energy.
There are many leaders who were introverts - Martin Luther King, Jr., Nelson Mandela, not to mention some actors... Many US presidents have been introverts: Jimmy Carter, Martin Van Buren, George Washington, Andrew Johnson, Benjamin Harrison, Herbert Hoover... Ouch, and (I think I wanna be an extrovert, after all) George H. W. Bush! --- Nope, changing my mind, I am an introvert: the son, G.W.Bush is an extrovert :p
As I said, it has nothing to do with the ability to interact with people. Further more, it is not so that we are 100% introvert or extrovert.
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/29/2006 10:35:06 AM | | forty-six and 2, Thanks, took the tests. Again. I have taken Myers Briggs several other times but it has been at least 7 yrs since the last time. I now remember why. Today I ended up being ENTJ, the Fieldmarshall, which is 2-7% of the population. I always took the way I think for granted. Thought everyone had the same thought processes and was often surprised at the fact that other people just didn't get what I thought was "normal", common knowledge. I actually bounce back and forth between E/I, S/I and T/F but always a J. I know I am an introvert at heart because when I was a teenager I was amazed at my older sisters ability to be able to talk to my parents friends. What the hell did she talk about with them?? I made up my mind then that I would work at it no matter how much I blushed or felt like I wanted to puke and have gotten pretty good at it. Although still have moments where I feel like running, and still no control over the blushing. Oh well, my point is, why do we have to ****ing label everything? Just accept that everyone is different and yet we all are the same. Everyone has fears and hopes. Does it really have to be more difficult than that? | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 10/29/2006 12:41:54 PM | | I'm an introvert and for years I've had to go against that instinct to make friends, meet girls, and get jobs. Yeah, I don't mind being by myself. I couldn't stand to have someone over my shoulder 24/7. After all, some time alone is required for learning, relaxing, and recharging one's batteries. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 11/8/2006 9:44:42 AM | There is nothing wrong with introverts or extroverts. Since the majority of people in society are extroverts, the introverts are looked down upon and often misunderstood. It is the same with all the stereotyping and classification in society. The minorities are usually seen as different or peculiar as the majority wants everyone to be like them. It is nonsense. I like being my own person and don't give a darn what the majority thinks. Why do I need to change to comform to the majority?
Early in life, I was often told this: to be seen and not heard. This kind of negative programming from elders has been difficult to overcome. I believe that by the time we become teenagers, we have been exposed to so much negative crap that many times our course in life has been set. Then we spend the rest of our lives fighting those invisible forces that we seldom even know exist deep in our minds. This is no excuse for not making changes if one wants to. The choice is to be made by the individual, not the majority who want to make everyone like them.
I have been around both kinds of people. There are too many other characteristics that make up a person to judge anyone according to these two meanings. Sometimes people talk so much you can't get a word in edgewise...then if you do get to say something, they just ignore you anyway because you might disagree with them. Sometimes I think people talk all the time because they are afraid of the silence or that they might disappear if they stop talking. I have nothing against anyone that talks 12 hours a day...it is not my place to judge an extrovert from my position of being an introvert. All I ask for is acceptance without the idea that I need to be like you. If I want to change, that is my choice.
I love the silence as part of my life. I have no problem with being alone...contrary to all the nonsense of the demands of society....there is nothing wrong with it. Imagine you are with your mate and you are sitting with each other watching a beautiful sunset or even a sunrise.
All it takes is watching to enjoy it together. Talking is not needed. The same with lying next to your lover and just enjoying his or her's company and warmth and touch. No words, just silently enjoying the moment together. There will be time later to talk about feelings or other matters.
I find many people are uncomfortable with introverts. Maybe because our society is so wired every minute of the day to all kinds of noise..the news, TV, radio, the Internet, the media and being in crowds. People seem to crave noise. You miss so much...sometimes the silence speaks louder than all the hub-bub. Just because I don't want to be constantly running around trying to find excitement doesn't mean I don't like to do things. I am comfortable with doing nothing sometimes...it is am amazing experience.
I am perfectly capable of expressing my feelings and talking about a variety of interests. Maybe I don't like to talk about TV or celebrities or gossip, or other people, or all the negative junk happening in the world. So what? My true interests are elsewhere and I don't need to constantly babble on and on to be my own person. I like listening sometimes more than talking. Now if all the quacko doctors label me as introverted and non-social or whatever....I really don't care. I know what I want in life and how to be happy and live my own life without interfering in others.
There are to many other factors that make up a person to strictly accept them or not according to their degree of extroversion. I have no problem with either verts. No matter what camp you are in, if you give people a chance, you might find exactly what you are looking for. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 11/8/2006 10:38:35 AM | For those who haven't bothered to read the entire post (like myself; I just glanced at the first page), here is the test, suggested by Forty-six-and two.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm
I am an INFP (Healer Idealist). Completely true. Heck, I'm even a Reiki level II...*Lol*
"Healers are found in only 1 percent of the general population, although, at times, their idealism leaves them feeling even more isolated from the rest of humanity.
Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood, which, unfortunately, is discouraged or even punished by many parents. In a practical-minded family, required by their parents to be sociable and industrious in concrete ways, and also given down-to-earth siblings who conform to these parental expectations, Healers come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. Other types usually shrug off parental expectations that do not fit them, but not the Healers. Wishing to please their parents and siblings, but not knowing quite how to do it, they try to hide their differences, believing they are bad to be so fanciful, so unlike their more solid brothers and sisters. They wonder, some of them for the rest of their lives, whether they are OK. They are quite OK, just different from the rest of their family-swans reared in a family of ducks. Even so, to realize and really believe this is not easy for them. Deeply committed to the positive and the good, yet taught to believe there is evil in them, Healers can come to develop a certain fascination with the problem of good and evil, sacred and profane. Healers are drawn toward purity, but can become engrossed with the profane, continuously on the lookout for the wickedness that lurks within them. Others seldom detect this inner turmoil, however, for the struggle between good and evil is within the Healer, who does not feel compelled to make the issue public."
I was stunned to have my personality so accurately described....
One of the main issues of my life has been coming to grips with just how different I am. Yes, everyone is different -- but not like me. I stopped faking normalcy roughly two years ago -- it has been liberating, but I do admit, it is terrifying.
I don't think people bought it in the first place... *Lol*
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 11/8/2006 11:27:07 AM | Hello hootnhowler and everyone else that is in on this forum. I'm actually glad that this is being discussed. I am an introvert and people think everything in the world about me because they are too afraid to ask me about myself. I don't run around spreading my business as if it belongs to everyone and I think it's senseless to do that, but being introverted has cost me in a lot of different ways. People that you work with think that you have an attitude problem. Some people think you aren't as articulate as an extrovert would be. I have no problem communicating with anyone. In fact, I find that discussing other people and events that you have nothing to do with can and will come back to haunt you. The best thing for us, we feel is to not respond to the negative. I have no problem with discussing anything that I'm going through with a true friend or someone I trust, but I'm just not open to discussing everything with everyone. ...and don't get it twisted. If I feel like telling someone off or getting physical, I can do both.  | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 11/9/2006 9:13:51 AM | | I am an introvert and proud of it. There is a great book out it is called Introvert Advantage. I don't remember the author's name. It helped me to understand myself. I am shy, quiet, but I can on different occasions, job, social setting be more extroverted. Maybe it is because I made myself take public speaking, I also took drama. This helped me to come out of myself and understand other people. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 1/8/2007 7:48:14 AM | I read the original article a few months ago. I found that while some of it was off-base for me, much of it rang true.
I am an introvert with some shy tendencies. People usually assume I'm snobbish, aloof, or just a plain ol' jerk. Nothing could be farther from the truth, but the fact is that we live in a fast-food culture, and unless you can dazzle someone in seconds or minutes then you usually get categorized, pigeon-holed, and left out in the cold. How's that saying go about women judging men in the first 60 seconds?
I would have to agree with Napalm here and I couldn't have said it better myself. I consider myself on the introverted side, about 70/30 introvert. I'm shy and quiet at times and not the most spontaneous person around. However, I can be as gregarious as any extrovert out there. But there are times where I do need to recharge in my own thoughts. We do live in a fast food culture where ppl can be so judgmental. If you don't have an outgoing personality ppl will assume that you're arrogant, aloof, apathetic, creepy or just an a-hole. I'll admit I do think b/f I speak, but you have ppl that don't pay attention to what they say. I have been on the outside looking in and seen as a social pariah. Whatever happened to getting to know the person better and giving ppl the benefit of the doubt? | |
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Posted: 1/8/2007 9:35:23 AM | What a weird OP.
I'm an introvert (even extreme introvert) and on many points my experience is different than the 'truth' presented here.
First of all, I'm shy, guarded, reserved, self-contained and private. I fail to see what is so perjorative and 'narrow' about those words. I don't feel 'misunderstood' and certainly no one, extrovert or otherwise, inspires feelings of 'torment' in me.
And this
However, Introverts are a minority in the general population, but a majority in the gifted population. The reason for this is introverts are more intelligent, more reflective, more independent, more level-headed, more refined, and more sensitive than extroverts.
Having to listen to their 98% content-free talk, we wonder if extroverts even listen to themselves.
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 1/8/2007 12:14:43 PM |
Introverts are usually seen as shy, this is not true...
Introverts are often seen as arrogant
All you have to do is look at the words used to describe introverts; guarded, loner, reserved, self-contained, private and narrow. These are all ungenerous words that suggest a narrow personality.
Or, maybe we're just not that into you...
Introverts of the World, Unite!
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 1/8/2007 1:10:25 PM | In college I was extremely extroverted. I was pretty popular on campus, was famous for throwing huge parties, and was known all over the campus and in the town around it.
Today, I find myself introverting to the point of unhealthy isolation. I turned down invites to Christmas parties because the thought of making small talk or playing games with a bunch of strangers sent me into a near panic attack. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 1/9/2007 1:48:33 PM | Introvert...extrovert...another great "label" to affix upon individuals...
Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah...
 ! Me...PSYCHOVERT! | |
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