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 truthisee

Joined: 12/25/2005
Msg: 301
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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:01:55 PM
Good one Artistee.....

....Psychovert..........

Need to put that on my frikken Driver's Abstract......


We are all many things, to be defined with a wonton disreguard to the many things
that shape our character as a whole just doesn't seem proper.....

Our past will define us as a whole, yet who really wants to be known by that......?

Yes of course many enjoy to be seen, heard, yet, at the same time those same
people sometimes like to be alone.......

But hey, WTF do I know?........

I mean really....look at my Thread in Poems.....Old Souls.....

Hey Artistee....got another.....Hypocritvert?.....Hypovert?

ya I know........Whateververt?......


T.
 Just_Another_Gurl

Joined: 3/27/2006
Msg: 302
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Posted: 1/10/2007 12:54:10 AM
"Is anyone out there both? I like going out sometimes and other times I want nothing more than to be alone. Sometimes I can communicate what is wrong, and sometimes I just can't, not that I won't...it can be frustrating not being able to undestand why or what is wrong sometimes, so I empathize. I am not sure if being a mix is better, worse, or the same as being one or the other, but I kinda like it!"

I am told I am an extrovert because I love to be with people and have a blast no matter what I am doing. However I am quite surprised at the view some people have of extroverts. Not all extroverts are shallow, insincere and of no substance. We do have brains in our heads and once in awhile know how to shut up.

I have an open door policy in my home and all my friends know to walk in whenever they want and come visit no matter when. I have woken up from a nap to my friend giving my hair a tug telling me to get my a*** out of bed for coffee, and have even gotten phonecalls from my own home asking where the hell I am when they are trying to visit me. I can be social at any given moment. On the other hand, when I have time alone I am not at a loss for things to do. I read a book, watch a movie, go for a walk, whatever. I am not in need of socialization twenty four seven and enjoy being by myself too. I also don't mind being with an introverted person as I find they have many awesome qualities that I love to enjoy in my life as it enriches my experiences all the more. I am guilty of asking what is wrong but it is because I care not because I am trying to be a pain. Some extroverts will babble (goodness knows I am doing it now) but give them a break....maybe look, not so much at what they are saying, but look at how alive they are and how happy they are and how much they are enjoying being with you. I think all personality types offer wonderful things and would never look at it any other way it limits things wayyyy too much.
 ace76

Joined: 11/13/2006
Msg: 303
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Posted: 1/10/2007 7:54:02 AM
I'm both.

I need time alone AND I need time around people for me to feel "alive."

But, I consider myself an anomaly, since I spent years reprogramming myself to not be the shy, timid person I was once - and that's why I like some of how I felt back then (especially for personal growth), but don't care to be like that ALL the time...
 atomhead

Joined: 6/16/2006
Msg: 304
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Posted: 4/5/2007 11:52:05 AM
I used to think I was an introvert but my last relationship showed me I'm actually a pretty big communicator, at least relatively lol.
 tmotts

Joined: 11/7/2006
Msg: 305
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Posted: 4/5/2007 12:23:56 PM
Is it possible to be both?....could I be a extroverted introvert? actually I see myself in both descriptions. I am different with different people and at different times. Guess that makes me either crazy or moody.
 000firefighter

Joined: 12/25/2005
Msg: 306
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Posted: 4/5/2007 12:43:37 PM
I have also learned that Introverts have a hard time anwsering questions in a classroom atmosphere. I believe I'm both.
 saccharine!

Joined: 12/15/2006
Msg: 307
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Posted: 4/5/2007 1:20:23 PM
I'd like to both agree and disagree with the OP. I do consider myself an introvert. But I don't think that just because I spend more time alone does not make me smarter than any other individual.

I also don't think that introverts specifically go out of their way to avoid friends. I like spending time with friends, and even need to get out and do things with someone once and a while. When I'm alone, sometimes I just don't want to be alone. and sometimes when I'm around people, I just don't want to be.

I think the most perfect balance I've ever felt is being with that special someone. Hence, why I'm here. :)
 Tame Tigress

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 308
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Posted: 4/5/2007 3:29:31 PM
We're all both!!

There is some truth to the OP's statements (Msg 1), however the traits discussed are not one or the other, but rather they occur on a spectrum with 100% Introvert on one end and 100% Extravert on the other end - no human is 100% of either, but we will all lean towards one or the other - some more dramatically than others.

Also, I think some people can shift dramatically depending on their life experience. For example, an extravert child raised in an unhappy, chaotic environment may develop into an adult that requires more quiet time and a more orderly environment than the typical extravert.

In my case it was the reverse. I am an introvert, but I was raised in a highly extravert environment, so I can be the life of the party and I've performed on stage and on film, but I still need a lot of alone time and I do not cultivate a busy or populous social calendar.
 Falco98

Joined: 9/1/2006
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Posted: 4/5/2007 3:57:53 PM

Do you know someone who needs hours alone everyday? Who loves quiet conversations about feelings or idea’s, and can give a dynamite presentation to a big audience, but seems awkward in small groups and inept at small talk?


you describe me just about perfectly. i've always considered myself an introvert, though i've also always had the ability to be boldly outgoing when necessary. but when it comes down to it, i SUCKKKKKKK at making small talk, or being in small groups where i'm not very familiar with everyone. (in fact, i almost completely attribute my being unwillingly single to my lack of ability at making smalltalk most of the time)
 Brother Down

Joined: 3/17/2007
Msg: 310
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Posted: 4/5/2007 4:28:20 PM
I loved that!

I am a loud introvert.

We all where our Nietzschien Masks.
Mine is the social side I present.
Most people think I am a walking party - non stop jokes.

I am very proud to be an introvert.
Most people I know are terrified ot their own mind.

Did you ever wonder why people watch so much TV, are plugged into Ipod, play video games, never read? it is because they are afraid of their own thoughts - and drown them out.

I love it when the the power goes out.

I love hours of silence and solitude.

Most people see me as this humorous comic relief - they don;t realize I am just being polite. They don't realize that I am making observations of their behaviour.

I use humour as a means not to talk down to them.
Most people I know, I talk AT them, not with them.
I prefer not to talk AT them - we introverts know that we are different, and are also usually sensitive enough not to be arrogant.

It is lonely when you think ALL OF THE TIME.

But I would rather be alone in the light of enlightened thought, than live in the dark emptiness of popularity.

I have very few close friends, and they are all brilliant.

Real Education begins by asking WHY.
Most people never question a single belief or assumptions.

I pity the popular.

As my English teacher used to tell me - "let them wallow in the filth of their ignorance".

Extroverts are truly pathetic creatures.
Pity the popular.
 Brother Down

Joined: 3/17/2007
Msg: 311
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Posted: 4/5/2007 4:30:15 PM
I am both.

My Nietzschien Mask is extrovert, but my true self is introvert.
 vampire_darc

Joined: 4/1/2006
Msg: 312
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Posted: 4/7/2007 1:26:58 AM
I can fake being an extrovert because my job relies on it... In reality, I hate being around large groups of people and would prefer to spend time alone or with only one other person (no more than that).

I would be the perfect match to an extremely introverted girl because it would only be "her and me" all the time and no one else. So.... Don't be "shy" and PLEASE write me if you read this ok?! (It's worth a try... lol)
 Summer Teeth

Joined: 3/2/2007
Msg: 313
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Posted: 4/7/2007 2:44:28 AM
I'm so introverted that this entire thread is a product of my mind.

Now that's pathetic, isn't it? Stop beating up on extroverts. They'll coax you out of your own head. And that's a good thing!
 livehardrunhard

Joined: 3/28/2007
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Posted: 4/7/2007 2:11:25 PM
Introverts and extroverts can both exhibit the qualities of both. That doesnt make you both.

An introvert is capable of socializing and interacting with people although its more difficult for them. Over time they can devolop social skills well enough to handle it better. They do need time alone to recharge their batteries if you will. An introvert could never handle say parties or constant social interaction nonstop daily.

An extrovert on the other hand is perfectly capable on enjoying an evening alone. They do tend to handle loneliness a bit worse than an introvert. They need to have social situations with others to recharge themselves regularly. So its not like you cant enjoy the opposite side just whichever side is stronger is your dominant half. An extrovert could never handle being say a hermit.

Our society frequently downtreads upon introverts as having poor qualities. Parents try to force introvert kids into becoming extroverts but you just cant. Even lots of psycologists pretty much ignore it as a personality type. Makes it hard to fit in.
 writerlychik

Joined: 9/28/2006
Msg: 315
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Posted: 4/7/2007 2:33:11 PM
I have also learned that Introverts have a hard time answering questions in a classroom atmosphere.


That is so true! At least for me it is; by the time I've mulled over what we're discussing and am beginning to consider speaking out, ten people have thrown out their thoughts/opinions and the discussion moves on Plus, it takes me forever to work up the courage to Say something, but that may be more about my self-doubt? Don't know....

I know I'm predominantly introverted, but am slowly learning to be more extroverted by opening up in class, trying more social settings--I recently attended my good extroverted friend's b-day/house party where I knew like 3 people and had to "mingle" (sooo hard)--and just forcing myself to make small talk, even if I do suck at it.

The thing is, when in certain social settings, alcohol is almost always necessary for me to "loosen up" or I won't be able to socialize well; I'll end up the "weird" one in the corner who looks like she just wants to bolt!

The site should offer an option of Personality Type: Introvert/Extrovert along with a percentage scale... ie. 80% Introvert, 20% Extrovert so we can also narrow our fields by the "type" we'd like to date....
 This is Now

Joined: 12/4/2006
Msg: 316
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Posted: 4/7/2007 2:41:47 PM
Didn't read all 13 or so pages but I was at a networking workshop the other day and the facilitators mentioned the names of some famous introverts who given their public persona one would never guess.

Based on some of the principles he talked about I'd be willing to guess that Janis Joplin (also born under the sign of Cancer) was an introvert too.

It is during periods of such aloneness that one can gather the presentation punch that her extremely feeling-based songs delivered.

Even if you leave her heroin addiction out of it she had the potential to feel deeply and project it out to the world. (Cancers like Aries, Libras, and Capricorns are all leadership signs despite their differing approaches)
 jk1983

Joined: 12/31/2006
Msg: 317
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Posted: 4/7/2007 2:46:01 PM
Bang-on. Couldn't have explained it better myself.
 wildartist

Joined: 5/26/2007
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Posted: 6/4/2007 7:02:15 PM
i love Carl Jung and his works on the collective unconcious . anamus ,anama any one?
his his works have given me many insights into who i am and who we are collectively

nice to see Carl Jung here
i just got here and i like it!
john
 scorpiomover

Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 319
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Posted: 6/6/2007 3:52:52 AM
Q: Why classify people?
Because we aren't all getting on as well, as we'd like. Most of the people on this site, are looking for a date or a mate, and they are having trouble finding one in their home town.
So we use any methods to help us understand ourselves to improve our chances.

Q: Isn't it an introvert just someone who either lacks social skills?
No. Introverts have many social skills, just they use them differently.

Q: Isn't it worse to be an introvert?
Only if you are stupid, and want to remain that way.
If an extrovert goes out drinking with an introvert buddy, the extrovert will talk to
everyone, have a great time, and when it is time to leave, the extrovert will go for his keys. The introvert will say to his extrovert friend, that it is not a good idea for them to drive home and they should get a taxi. So they both get home OK.
If an extrovert goes out drinking with an extrovert buddy, the two of them will talk to everyone, have a great time, and when it is time to leave, they will get in their cars and drive home drunk. Then they will crash into each other and end up in hospital for months, and both lose their licence, or they will both wind up dead.
However, the extrovert does not think about this the next morning, and so does not realise that the introvert pretty much saved the extrovert's life. The introvert thinks this is obvious. However, he likes the extrovert and likes going out drinking with him, and does not wish to upset the extrovert by showing him how stupid he can be.
 kewllbreeze

Joined: 5/24/2007
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Posted: 6/6/2007 6:45:44 PM
I'm an introvert. I like being this way. But I also like being round lots of people sometimes too. I like being around my friends. It's who I am. I can't change the chemistry that made me this way. But I will admit, sometimes I get lonely and want people around me. It's the down side. As I get older it gets a little depressing not interacting with people more often. But I'm aware of this so I'm doing what I have to to change things. javascript:smilie('')

But I don't like how the media stereotypes introverts as "Loners" but yet this "Loner" knows lots of people? What's up with that? And no matter what sort of crime or weird behavior it's always a "Loner". Please get off the "Loner" podium. Because someone likes solitude doesn't make them a FREAK or a Phyco-killer...


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 wkc073406

Joined: 10/13/2007
Msg: 321
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Posted: 10/28/2007 4:47:06 AM
There's a book out there that outlines a unique philosophy to utilizing personal talents. You could argue that some talents are a product of personality. Damn, I wish I could remember the name of the book. I recently interviewed with a young, fresh company that adopted this philosphy. Essentially, the philosophy puts forward that persons and corporations shouldn't waste the massive amount of time and resources they do to develop personal weaknesses or "needs improvement" areas and instead concentrate all of those efforts in supporting and leveraging personal strong suits. The philosophy claims that there will always be deficient areas and effort to remedy them will largely be futile. And that it's most efficient to identify strengths, develop those strengths and align human resources to areas of business accordingly. Makes sense, huh Humans, despite popular belief, are not all purpose resources and that perception causes disappointment for all involved. So, if it leads back to personality, personality being the foundation, with this correction in attitude shouldn't we all be more tolerant of each other?

I found the ideas, and the fact that a good sized tech company utilizing these ideas, very encouraging. Thinking about it further isn't the idea that we should all be good at everything an extroverted way of thinking? Kind of short sighted? :P


Tralalalalaaaaa


-William
 Squirrly

Joined: 12/18/2007
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Posted: 1/9/2008 2:32:05 AM
coming from an introvert i presume,

You just cant judge people, some are slighly introverted and other fully.

Introvert are poor communicators, so me being an extrovert, can cast whatever judgements i like on you because yo will never say it to my face lol.

Just kidding. If you want something in lif go out and get it.

"It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep."

Introverts just generally bumble along and usually look to extroverts for guidance, but they never ask for guidance as they are usually shy.

Introversion from social groups and peers is a bad thing. And it is also a sign that you dont love yourself. Living a quiet life is not the same as being an introvert.

Plus everyone at one point is an introvert, through puberty, as a child etc etc. But we all grow out of it. Whether it is at 13 or 40. Plus expereiences that you have throughout your life such as abuse etc etc. which are really horrible dont make you an introvert either, they just make you wary. Introversion is quite unhealthy and if you call a friend on the phone once a month even then you are not an introvert.

Introverts or extroverts are not more intelligent than each other that is just stupid, however just to damn your point further if anything, extroverts would be mre intelligent as they have greater social and emotional intelligence. Sorry if this sounds brash.
 Squirrly

Joined: 12/18/2007
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Posted: 1/9/2008 2:37:21 AM
ur an idiot, again another introvert.

They will crash and burn? Get a grip.

Many introverts sleep with people they dont like, have no social skills, cannot string together smal talk.

Get a grip dude.
 myopinion

Joined: 5/19/2008
Msg: 324
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Posted: 6/7/2008 3:17:26 PM
My profile used to say " I am an introvert". To which I recieved alot of messages saying "what is an introvert". I wish I had seen this thread back then.

[Guarded, loner, reserved, self-contained, private....]
Wow I have never seen anything that describes me better.

I often feel misunderstood, by the majority of the population. Every so often I find someone that I "click" with though.

I wanted to point out, that while introverts are the minority, we don't neccessarily understand extroverts either. I often wonder why they are behaving like that.
 Randominternetguy

Joined: 12/25/2006
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Posted: 6/7/2008 3:48:43 PM
Every study I've seen that test lots of people actually show there are more introverts than extroverts, even though it's pretty close, around 52-48 or so.

Actually, if you look at the middle to letters, you would nominally expect every group be around 25% (since there are 4 possible combinations), but ...

xSFx 43% (Where many women fall)
xSTx 30% (Where many men fall)
xNFx 16%
xNTx 10 %

(%'s are approx, I know they don't add to 100, but then, I'm not posting a reference either :)

So if you wanted to write a book about relationships, and pick the demographic of xSFx women trying to understand xSTx men, you would probably get a lot of buy in.

Bob (INTP)
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