| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 12:55:09 PM | was the original post copied from somewhere? sounded like it.
i agree with pure_luck in that most people are too complex to be described in one word.
i've been described by a very good friend as being an "extroverted introvert." i had someone who would have to be called "socially challenged" (which is probably just another way of saying extreme introvert) say i wasn't at all introverted.
i think we all change...move around on the scale...depending on our current situation/surroundings. the more comfortable someone is where he is at the moment, the less he'll be totally introverted (at least right then). also, if we're feeling sure of our place in the world at a given time, i believe the introversion will be more subdued.
i don't agree that a person can just go from one extreme to the other tho...cuz if it's that easy to just change, then why wouldn't people be doing it all the time (if we're in a so-called extroverts' world)? i don't believe that someone who's suddenly an extrovert was ever a true full-fledged introvert.
i, too, get overwhelmed by being around too many people, especially if they need to keep busy by talking constantly. ever know someone like that, who wasn't satisfied to just sit for even a moment while you're in their presence? talk about tiring!
anyway, my main point is that i think most people are mixtures...& only the "socially challenged" are on the extreme end of the introversion scale.... | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 12:55:52 PM | OP the fact you claim introverts are more
intelligent and independent tells me your just trying to
find something good about being an introvert.
There are no cat scans that can tell if someone is more intelligent or
independent ( your claim that introverts are more intelligent and
independent in msg 1)
I find this info in msg 1 like a beef by product...
it can feed some who are starving... but the nutritional value
is just a bunch of empty calories...
most likely something like head cheese.... or ding dongs/ twinkies and hostess ho hos
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 12:57:22 PM | Are you still an introvert if you post on a public forum?
I dont know about all that on the OP, it seem's to generalize pretty damn good. Maybe we could call it the truth about generalizing!!!
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 1:00:28 PM | Oh KD!
You can never be an introvert!
You are a trivert!!!
But some of the things are true some are not. I'm somewhere in the middle. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 1:06:25 PM |
i don't agree that a person can just go from one extreme to the other tho...cuz if it's that easy to just change, then why wouldn't people be doing it all the time (if we're in a so-called extroverts' world)? i don't believe that someone who's suddenly an extrovert was ever a true full-fledged introvert.
Whitebirch - I honsetly can. I used to be so far extreme intro and I do go back there a lot but I have forced myself to learn to be an extroverted. It was so hard at first and it still is on days but I did totally turn my personality around. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 1:06:29 PM |
Here is a link to one such test, feel free to search for your own if you like.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm
I'm ISFJ according to that test. Which seems right on the nose. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 1:21:50 PM | | I spend days and more alone on the trail and in another life was once offered to join one of America's greatest Theatre Comapanies. I get along great in small groups unless most of the participants are arguments for euthanasia. I can be shy when intimidated though. Boy do I miss being intimidated. | |
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Msg: 35 | |
| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 1:34:49 PM |
Here is a link to one such test, feel free to search for your own if you like.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm
Well I took the test and....it seems I'm a M.A.P.T type, go figure
Oh KD!
You can never be an introvert!
You are a trivert!!!
LOL. I do agree with EB1, some things are true, other's arent. Overall just generalizations
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 1:43:31 PM |
was the original post copied from somewhere? sounded like it.
Yes, it was copied from somehwere else, so don't give the original poster any credit for it at all.
The quote came from a book called "The Introvert Advantage: How to Thrive in an Extrovert World" by Marti Olsen Laney.
The OP has violated copyright and this post and his account should be deleted. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 2:03:29 PM |
The OP has violated copyright and this post and his account should be deleted.
Now there is an overreaction if I ever saw one. The copyright may not have been properly displayed, but it was never stated to be his original words and it was not used to profit, but only to share someone's insight.
Not everyone understands how to properly cite things.
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:05:05 PM | Yes it was copied and for a few good reasons. Here is the citiation for the orignal author, which you had wrong. Although a few of Laney's quotes were in the article I borrowed.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200303/rauch
I wanted to prove the traits that are different between extroverts and introverts. Extroverts are more likely to be the "fight or flight" type of person whereas an introvert will read, digest, analyse and respond. All anyone had to do was type "introvert" into google and the very first search result is where msg 1 was taken from. Some of the introvert's who posted did this. All of the extroverts who posted did not. They were completely ignorant of the subject matter, yet still arrogantly stated unmoveable opinions based on nothing more than their emotional reactions to the post.
They immediately began to "show me how I was wrong". Which is what society does everyday to introverts. The fact is introverts are happy with who they are until they are told there is something wrong with them. Introverts are usually told this at a young age when they don't know how to decide what is wrong and right as far as personality goes.
Society rewards extroverts, and if that's all it did it wouldn't be a problem. However introverts are seen as aloof, problems socializing, as an outcast or loser.
And yes Rainbow introverts are proven to be generally more intelligent than extroverts because the truly gifted are asked to take personality tests like the Jung-Myers-Briggs test, and that test shows most gifted people to be introverts. As for being more independent, well if you can't figure that out from the meaning of the word, then you are a sorry case indeed. Introverts do not need anyone else, we prefer one or two really good friends to the endless bounds of aquaintenances that extroverts have. We prefer to be on our own, work better on our own.
But you won't believe me so read this;
Generally, introverts are intelligent problem-solvers with good concentration. They frequently are gifted in math, science, music or art and enjoy working alone. They're late bloomers, often marrying late in life, and while they have fewer close relationships, they're strong ones
Marti Olsen Laney, Neuroscience researcher and author in Portland Ore.
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P.S. To over-simplify things, wouldn't most people consider someone who reads, digests, analysis and then responds to be more intelligent than someone who makes a snap decision or judgement based solely on emtional reactions and gut feelings?
Isn't a well planned course of action more intelligent than a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants action plan?
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:09:01 PM | | I have tested a couple times in the past and always come up as an ISFJ yet no-one that knows me believes this. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:16:18 PM | I suspect extroverts are less likely to be interested in taking tests that reveal their personality type. :P
I suspect introverts (me included) are a guilty of revelling in being in a misunderstood minority. Just sometimes.
I came out as an INFJ. Like Gandhi. Ho hum. Not a lot to live up to or anything.
As an introvert I should now sit in the corner and contemplate my own inadequecy. But I won't. Because I've never met two identical personalities in my whole life, so the idea that we can all be classified in any way is too flawed. There may be some similarities but there are always differences. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:26:55 PM | ^^^ that is a good point rune3. One that I've been meaning to make in each re-post. There is more to someone's personality than being intro or extrovert. It's just a part of our personality.
However I think the way introverts are treated in society because of that personality trait is unfair. There is no need to turn an introvert into an extrovert. Yet society rewards and encourages the extrovert while belittling, making fun of, and pittying the introvert.
Anyone can read into this, I suggest starting with Carl Jung, he invented the terms. I believe (not 100% conclusively) in most of Jung's research. The idea of a collective sub-conscious that connects all of humanity, that we do have a shadow in our own personal sub-conscious that is the opposite of our conscious selves. That there are intro and extroverts.
Although all anyone really has to do to find out how wonderful and amazing introverts can be, is ask an introvert a simple question, "What are you thinking?" | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:35:12 PM | I come up with INFJ most of the time, but every now and then INTJ. The trick is to take the damn test as fast as possible without thinking. Your mood will sometimes change the outcome.
I see no point in arguing whether someone did or did not cite a quote. It doesn't get you anywhere.
Also, I see no point in having any argument about whether introverts or extroverts are better at this or that. You simply reduce yourself to a whining child. And that comment isn't aimed at anyone in particular--just anybody who feels like whining.
Now, if you simply want to say, "I want to shed some light on the introverted personality," then maybe we could've avoided this useless finger pointing.
Both introverts and extroverts are needed to make this damn society work. And thank goodness most people are a mixture of the two. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:37:38 PM | The Japanese have known this for thousands of years.
In my opinion, introversion is NOT something to brag about.
In my performance reviews at work, my introvertness is always listed under the "needs improvement" category. I have taken no fewer than five classes to help me overcome my introvertness.
Introverts may be more adept at problem solving, but extroverts are needed to make the sale. One without the other impedes forward progress. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:40:05 PM |
Your Type is
INFP
Me too. 
I like the fact that I'm not the life of the party, don't have to chatter on about nothing all the time, and I'm perfectly satisfied spending a day or three alone with my own thoughts. I think my personality allows me to be a very strong, self assured person. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:46:18 PM | Did I miss something where the OP said either trait is "better", more intelligent or anything else judgemental? And WTF is with this "rainbow" chick and her non-stop BS? I do NOT care what subject is posted IF she wades in 90% of the time she's in opposition just to be noticed. I wish this new b/f of her's would put a clamp on her---the tighter the better! Poor guy---he just has to be suicidal by now?
From what's been shared here about personal experiences I am probably more of an introvert but certainly can lapse into a seemingly outgoing, gregarious, "people person" when it becomes necessary for business. I do have a minor contrast in that I'm hyper sometimes but mostly laid back most of the time. Over the years I have fought with myself trying to be more outgoing but like has been said after a while of that I need or want to retreat and recharge. More than a few girlfriends have never been able or willing to allow this about me which eventually became an issue for them. They assumed I was no longer into them because now and again I needed that alone time. (It didn't matter how MUCH time---it bothered them any amount.)
I'm sure there are many people who have partial aspects of both traits and can move between them easily. Maybe that's a learned skill? The more comfortable I am in my knowledge of a situation the better I think I perform tasks associated with the setting.
But this is just me---as we see here everyone has a slightly different view and experience with this. I do think it's difficult for one trait to get along well over time with the other if there is no understanding or acceptance of the differences. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:47:46 PM | | It would be funny if somehow it turned out that introverts had insy belly buttons and extroverts had outsy belly buttons. :P | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/12/2006 2:50:40 PM |
this is an age of pop psychology and I see many flaws with the statements in msg 1
there are extroverts with an internal locus of control
and there are introverts who are quite because they just
lack good communication skills and cannot expresss themselves
well with words.
I look for balance... not extremes... and a pure introvert
would be off my list for dating or close friendship
because people who are extreme are usually not balanced emotionally
HEY STOP PICKING ON US YA DAMN EXTROVERT! | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 2:57:32 PM | | I just read all of the different personality types and there's a little bit of me in each of them. I would expect that this is true for just about everyone--not that there's a little bit of me in each of you, you silly wankers! So stop thinking that! But there's a little of you in each personality type. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2006 3:00:07 PM | OJB... It's like astrology. Any horoscope can technically relate to people of any sign. I have a brother and sister who are twins and are like night and day. Complete opposites. Yet somehow they both think their horoscopes relate well to them - go figure.
And WTF is with this "rainbow" chick and her non-stop BS?
This is like the fourth post I've read here today where you are slamming the great rainbow fish.
There really is no need to slam someone for stating their opinion on a (gasp) opinion forum... well... that's just my opinion, anyways. | |
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