POD1RN
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Msg: 101 | |
| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 11:51:25 AM | Well???????
I took the test and it said i was a ENFJ.........................does that counts for any points???????????
LOL!
Heck if i know...................................remember.......give some love to someone! | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 11:52:01 AM | ^^^ text book extrovert reaction to this thread, and a perfect example of how an extrovert, unknowingly, is telling introverts we are wrong.
Does anyone get outside and see color????? Do you take time to smell the flowers or feel the air touch your skin???? Do you hug your family???? Say i love you to anyone??????????
That is what life is about
That is what life is about for an extrovert, to go out and interact with things. That is how you find meaning in life. An introvert does it differently, all those things you list are fairly useless to us. I don't need a hug from my Dad because I've thought about how he treats me, what he's done for me, and I know he loves me because of those things.
When an introvert goes out for a walk in a meadow, he doesn't notice the air on his skin or the smell of the flowers because they do not interest him for one, and for two, he's too lost in his own thoughts to notice.
However except for the extremely introverted and the extremely extroverted, people do have both qualities in them. You can find an introvert smelling a flower or listening to the birds, just as you can find an extrovert in deep thought, it's just not the norm for either of them. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 11:54:40 AM |
I took the test and it said i was a ENFJ
Ok... I finally broke down and took the test myself... but it told me I "flunked". What's up with that?!?
Kind of like when I took that career assessment test and it only came up with one job suitable for me... "bum". | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:11:27 PM | I don't see this thread being about truth. The subject matter is about validation. And that's really weird. Why would an introvert care about validation? I don't care about it. Usually that's more of an extrovert's need, but not always. (And before an extrovert gets all uppity and soap-boxy . . . validation isn't a bad thing at all; but it's usually something an introvert doesn't need.)
Still the movitation of the thread doesn't appear to be about truth . . . | |
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*KD*
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Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 105 | |
| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:22:07 PM |
text book extrovert reaction to this thread, and a perfect example of how an extrovert, unknowingly, is telling introverts we are wrong.
Arent you telling her she's wrong????? so your not an introvert anymore.LMAO
The truth about Introverts.
The only truth is that no matter how much of a pile of crap something is, with the right wording, anyone will buy it...now lay down on the couch and tell me about your childhood...oh yeah, what's your visa number????
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:28:50 PM | Kirky, you may have missed the point.
Knowing someone's personality profile will help to avoid problems. If you know I was extremely uncomfortable in a crowd, would you constantly be inviting large groups of people to the house knowing it is close to water torture for me to be in that situation? And knowing you are more extroverted, who successful would it be for me to continually suggest that we did things with just the two of us?
I am an ISTJ, VERY much a loner, VERY introverted. Yet I played in bands on was on stage in front of as many as 5000 people 4-6 times per week.
My recent ex wife was an extrovert and wanted to have 12 people for dinner every night. The compromise was that when she had people over I would have dinner and disappear to "another committment", which was quite often taking a long drive with the dog or going somewhere quiet to read.
You can't make one type be the other. Introverts find it draining if not downright painful to be forced into situations where they must be social. Extroverts feel the same when denied their companionship. And sadly, seperate but equal doesn't work in this case.
When the doorbell or phone would ring I would just CRINGE at what the result of that was going to be. That was a large part of why we ended up not liking each other much, though not the only reason. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:36:22 PM |
Still the movitation of the thread doesn't appear to be about truth . . . I think the original motivation of the thread was to improve understanding of why people behave in different ways and to highlight the problems the existing lack of understanding causes.
The truth is that extrovert/introvert makes for a significant difference and causes horrible misunderstandings in relationships... understanding it would be more constructive than arguing over which behaviour is 'better'.
How do you get an extrovert partner to understand that your need for alone-time is not a rejection of them or evidence that you do not really love them? | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:49:51 PM |
When an introvert goes out for a walk in a meadow, he doesn't notice the air on his skin or the smell of the flowers because they do not interest him for one, and for two, he's too lost in his own thoughts to notice.
I think you've got that part wrong, at least. When I (an INTJ) go for a walk in a meadow, it IS to notice the air and the flowers and the sun. I may be lost in the experience of those things at times, but rarely if I am wtih someone else.
Introverts are not less emotional than extroverts, either - they are just less inclined to make a public display of those feelings, and so can be perceived as being unfeeling or aloof.
For me, I do enjoy social interaction, but it has more to do with quality (close friends I know well who know me well) than quantity (and if there are many new people in a sizeable group, I will gravitate more to those I know, or select an individual to talk to).
I also doubt that introverts are generally more intelligent, on average. Perhaps they reflect more on their experiences, and are less prone to speak out (and so may make fewer "thoughtless" utterances), but that does not correlate with greater intelligence.
I will agree that in general most extroverts do not understand introverts (perhaps because they have less incentive to interact with them), but introverts have little choice than to interact with the majority who are extroverts. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:50:44 PM | How do you get an extrovert partner to understand that your need for alone-time is not a rejection of them or evidence that you do not really love them?
Say "I wanna stay home and read a book. If you want to go out and have fun, go for it. I'll have snacks for us when you're back, and then we can screw like rock stars. If you wanna have friends over, fine. I'll go to the library and read. I'll bring ice cream home afterwards and then we can screw like rock stars."
If she gives you shit, say something like, "I just want to be alone, but if I have to be around someone, I would rather it were just you and no one else for this evening."
Understanding someone really isn't all that difficult . . . I've never had an SO complain or not understand my need for quiet time. Plus, if an SO will give some space when I need it . . . we'll have sex like rock stars!! Ok, ok. I'll at least attempt to! | |
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POD1RN
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Joined: 2/27/2004
Msg: 110 | |
| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:59:56 PM | Wow I guess i was put in my place!
How did I get so slammed for being extroverted????
I didn't mean you had to hug someone for something they did for you, but rather because you loved them or you missed them or something other than what i was given by them................
I suppose i will never understand.............has it ever occurred to you i am trying to understand..........?????
But none the less I find the author to be very comical..................
So here is the fire...................
Introverts are not more intelligent just more lonely and have more time to think of lame as excuses for why you are a loner!
Just want to slam me for being who i am then bring it on............i can dish out just the same.
But really what is the point of that?????
Stupid if you ask me...............seems as if the author finds enjoyment in ripping someone apart and tell them he is right and everyone is wrong...................sounds Bi-polar to me!
As for the gentleman making commits about how his wife wanted a ton of people around all the time...............that isn't me. i have dinner alone at home every night...........and if I choose to go out I do. i don't want to be with people all the time.....................i work in the medical field and i see that when you need time for yourself you take it.
So basically..................i don't care whether you are introverted or extroverted what i care about is who you are as a person and how i may make a new friend not enemies.
i do not appreciate being attacked.................i did not attack you in any sense. You say that you want people to learn how to deal with an introvert then prove it quit being so bitter.
I was not against you...............................Nor did i intend it to sound that way, but thank you for pointing out to me just how shallow you are!
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 1:09:27 PM | I finally took the test. No surprises there. INTJ. And, for the most part ~ it was overly accurate. Interesting really. I thought I was always entering "power-struggle" relationships and that my man-picker was broken. I think it's clear now why my choices have been so off ~ I was with E's that simply do not understand a thing about me. Add my need to evolve constantly, my need for organization and my over-thinking nature, it's no wonder I'm forever single. The fun part of this was the following:
U.S. Presidents: Chester A. Arthur; Calvin Coolidge; Thomas Jefferson; John F. Kennedy; James K. Polk; Woodrow Wilson.
Fictional: Cassius (Julius Caesar); Mr. Darcy (Pride and Prejudice); Gandalf the Grey (J. R. R. Tolkein's Middle Earth books); Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs); Professor Moriarty, Sherlock Holmes' nemesis; Ensign Ro (Star Trek--the Next Generation); Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (Hamlet); George Smiley, John le Carre's master spy; Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs).
Some of my most favorite literary characters are here. I guess I need to find/meet/date someone like Hannibal Lecter ~ I'd much rather date Mr. Darcy, however. Gandalf ~ too cool !!  | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 1:28:28 PM | I thought I was always entering "power-struggle" relationships and that my man-picker was broken. I think it's clear now why my choices have been so off ~ I was with E's that simply do not understand a thing about me. Add my need to evolve constantly, my need for organization and my over-thinking nature, it's no wonder I'm forever single.
DITTO! verygreeneyes....I can SOOOOOO relate to that! I am not unhappy being single..as a matter of fact, my choice to BE single has made me happier than I've been in a long time. My career choice has caused me to learn to be a bit more extroverted...I work with the public.
OP...thanks for posting this....
INTJ here as well...
OT...this thread seems to show how difficult communication between introverted and extroverted people can be......I don't think one is better than the other.....we are just different......JMO | |
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Posted: 9/13/2006 1:47:57 PM | | I Took the test I'm INTP, I do have to be comfortable with the people I'm with. I'm very much a loner. And my IQ is adequate shall we say. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 2:10:13 PM | I spend long periods of time with as little interaction as possible....spending free time in the woods, rivers ect.
Then I will become the partymaster and socialize alot
DOES THIS MEAN I"M JUST A VERT??????? | |
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Posted: 9/13/2006 2:16:09 PM | msg 113...
now you are seeing it like I do...
yeah I love the part about introverts being more
intelliegent and all.....
shesh... such generalizations, sometimes cannot believe
my eyes ! | |
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Posted: 9/13/2006 2:16:27 PM | great topic! theres a great book on introverts but I cant think of the name or author right now, its got a picture of a egg shell on the cover though!
After I read that book I didnt feel like such a weirdo and understood myself better and was comforted knowing there was tons of people like me.
I have dated extroverts and been friends with them, and while they are great to be around at times, I am glad I am an introvert and dont need constant attention and approval of others every minute (not that all extroverts are like that) | |
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*KD*
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Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 117 | |
| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 2:20:16 PM |
I spend long periods of time with as little interaction as possible....spending free time in the woods, rivers ect.
Then I will become the partymaster and socialize alot
DOES THIS MEAN I"M JUST A VERT???????
LOL,
Not so fast there Wullis, before diagnosis we'll need your credit card # and your signature on our disclaimer so when your done you'll blame everyone else for the way you are and be properly labeled and assigned your role
The truth about Introverts.
The truth is only applicable to those individuals who are gullible, I mean open minded enough to ascertain the truth. Well or whatever psycho-babble works for you.
EHNM | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 2:35:26 PM | Did the egg shell have big eyes, a small mouth, no nose and a short white skinny body attached to it?
Who here thinks femalegirlwoman is actually a maleboyman?
Well... I don't, but thought it would be a cool thing to ask everybody. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 3:03:33 PM | | Yes, so well said. Would to have one for work as well. Have not gotten a promotion because of introverted abilities as well. | |
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POD1RN
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Joined: 2/27/2004
Msg: 120 | |
| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 3:05:05 PM | Da Hitman......................LOL! You guys are funny.
I think this is fun.....................I am sorry i don't mean to offend anyone by being extroverted.
But I like to talk to people with a colorful side to things as this is the place.
I know I used the word colorful again.................shoot me!
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 3:23:23 PM | As an INTJ, dating was difficult! Not being outgoing, it was unlikely I'd meet women in bars and clubs - the internet worked beautifully for me, instead. As an NT (a very small percentage of the population, and INTJ's are even less common), I knew I was primarily compatible with INFJs or INFPs (also a very small number; because NTs and NFs share the abstract communication/thinking style), or very marginally extroverted versions of those (close to being introverts, but more borderline). Many of the women I dated either knew their personality type, or took the test (and learned a lot about themselves by doing so, in most cases).
So, knowing these things, I could use them to my advantage to find compatible people, so despite being a rare type of introvert, I had no trouble dating via the internet. I even dated extroverts gasp!, and many have remained friends (but I wouldn't want to live with one!). So, I like extroverts, and many extroverts who bothered to get to know me, like me too.
It's ALL great, if people don't start judging others on this basis. Vive la difference!  | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 3:40:37 PM |
LOL,
Not so fast there Wullis, before diagnosis we'll need your credit card # and your signature on our disclaimer so when your done you'll blame everyone else for the way you are and be properly labeled and assigned your role
Only if it is a recurring charge so I can justify my guilt and anger for being stuck with an ailment with no prefix
"KD" I dub thee the Gilbert Gotfried of the Forum Funny Farm | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 3:41:48 PM |
I even dated extroverts gasp!, and many have remained friends
I too have many extrovert friends. And they call me whenever they have computer problems. | |
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| The truth about Introverts.
Posted: 9/13/2006 6:16:41 PM | ESE^^^Weird huh? I am a little surprised. I think being an extrovert would be wonderful. Being able to chat at will, being out in social settings and feeling at ease, not turning every little thing into an over-night analysis crunch. Standing in a huge crowd and feeling part of it. I don't know ~ we are all different, but I think I'd rather be an ex than an in. Of course ~ maybe we always want what we don't have.
~OT~ Did anyone notice that the test has lower case letters and capital letters to differentiate the percentages of each of the four categories? I was wondering if any of you innies or exies would mind sharing your percentages? I find the percentages very telling ~ my roommate took the test and was an inny (lower case i) but only 6%. I was extremely high and an upper case. Vastly different traits depending on upper/lower case and percentile, from what I'm reading. Thanks again OP, interesting study in sociological/psychological insights.  | |
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