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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 11/3/2008 5:28:51 PM | MMMmmmm hmmmm, the economy is doing so good
I've got a lovely tropical island in Arizona, you buying?
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BTW, I think George should be strung up in the public square... he'd never make it out alive. Personally, I hope to run into him some day in Dallas... so I may puke on his shoes.
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 11/3/2008 10:29:23 PM | Economy does not matter because banking problem is another bubble like the Dot Com bubble. Bush, Obama, McCain does not matter which one takes power the recession will be longer than 2001 and 1991 recession because the banking crisis. The solution to the crisis is not from Barney Frank nor Ron Paul mouth  The economic recovery is gonna mean trying to raise productivity rather creating new hedge funds. Second, Bush is not 100% at fault for the banking crisis because buyer was greedy as much as lender. Third, economy built on consumption based growth has limits unless innovation increases to make goods cost less to create. Finally, we need free trade with Europe, Latin America, Asia, yet we need reform healthcare before we can except to have manufacturing jobs return. The reason healthcare reform is needed to remove the employer based system and borrow ideas from the Netherlands to build universal system that covers everyone but keeps the private sector in place with healthcare. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 11/21/2008 1:06:11 PM | so were do you see the U.S in say 10 years form now?
now that the gov. is buying all the private debtes, (funding the private sector with the bailout $$$, they are basically taking over their debts), do you think a similar scenario would happen to the U.S as that to U.S.S.R | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 11/21/2008 1:19:44 PM | The Government is not buying Private debt...... It is handing cash to Banks, Buying stock.
The Banks and Insurance Companies can do what ever they wish with the 3 Trillion........
I have heard this is an event much like the fall of USSR.
When we split I want to be part of California........ California Girls..... | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 1/3/2009 7:54:54 AM | Quote; where will we be in 10 years?
God only knows! ~ Palin in 2012! ?
with 30% of the voting public willing to consider such options
I'd say it's a horse race, all things being possible, there nothing too remote or to far out!
As long as the American people view politics as some kind of "Team Sporting Event"
and we have no choice in "team owership" ~ we're screwed!
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 4/26/2009 8:51:10 AM | It funny how, that as things unfold the picture seems to get much clearer.
43 was courted and groomed by the GOP for the "first chair position"
As far as I can tell, this started with redistricting of voting blocks here in Texas.
Ann Richards was governor at the time. There was a big ongoing fight on the state senate floor as GOP forced redistricting. The DNC didn't see it as fair or reflective ~ the GOP did.
Senate Democrats refusing to come to work, hiding , attempting to block the vote. Warrants were issued for those that failed to appear. ~ A big "stink" it was.
It ended, the GOP getting their way and Ann Richards losing reelection to 43. ~ I don't remember that she campaigned all that hard. She had been an effective governor and was beloved by many. She had worked hard at diversifying the Texas economy, bring in much high tech industries during a sagging economy. I think she was blind-sided, not seeing Bush a true contender. He had no experience, and his background was found much lacking. ~ Coming from a heeled up family, yet unable to make a good ball team winners.
Phase one of the GOP plan completed, it was just a matter of keeping the lid on State business and she was a fine ship of state at the time and sailed in bristol fashion. State business was in order on his arrival.
Gore bio was much the same way, in that he had been courted and groomed for the first chair position, with big money backers from Tennessee, for many years working his way up through statehood. However, he had groomed to a much finer degree and was trained in the fine arts of statesmanship. He was a good student, but a little stiff as everyone noted, not completely sure of himself, knowing what you don't know has it's only special drawbacks.
Both of these men finding themselves one step away from their goals "El Persidente"
The last act, Gore carrying the baggage of a " of a cum stained blue dress" that the GOP was so successful with, as Newt and Kenneth Starr staring as hatchet men for the GOP.
So Bush wins out! Perhaps ~ Gore should have contested the vote? ~ but he didn't, the final outcome placed in the hands of one Supreme Court Judge.
I'm not convinced that GW had an overriding plan for America. ~ I feel quite certain the the GOP leadership did however, ~ Phill Gramm, Wolfowitz, Carl Rowe and a few other ~ were several years ahead of the curve, carving out a path and had grand ambitions on both National and Global level.
If Bush himself had a plan, which I doubt, it changed after 9-11. It became all about getting the bad guys. This selected Executive cabinet ~ Bubba's Playhouse I like to call it ~ helped him along with all their"good" ideas. ~ Bush was poorly served.
We had soccer coach's and college pep squad cheerleaders overriding and running rough shod over top brass officials. ~ Many senior staff resigning rather then be a part of a debacle. As 43's administration did as it pleased. They started created pictures to fit "their" facts with the help of Rupert Murdoch and his Fox "News" organization. ~ Fox job being, ~ "kept the package sold" to the American people.
We had a Attorney Generals office willing to rubber stamp anything on the Administrations "wish list" as core GOP leadership was then ~ and "still is" to a lesser degree very strong. ~
With Phill Gramms handy work, in 1999 ~ the ground work was laid down ~ for the fox as now to be guarding the hen house ~ leaving the SEC, mute and ineffective as to the job it was suppose to do.
All of this ~ we now know ~ Bush was out of his league and was played like a violin by the GOP leadership.
I don't think ~ GW Bush planed to spend all this money or allow all of this to happen. I see him as a ~ smuck , a fall guy for certain parties inside the GOP. ~
I do however agree with the original poster ~ " The economy is good at "their" house"
I find it ironic that Mc Cain's bid for office failed prey to much the same a Al Gore's ~ He found himself carrying too much baggage from the prior Administration. ~ Without this baggage, I think he'd won. ~ and that my friends ~ " scaring the hell out of me" and telling us how powerful and entrench the influence of the GOP truly is ~ even today as I speak .
Al would have made us a good president ~ the only candidate spending many years being truly finely tuned and groomed for the job. ~ But I don't think any man knows exactly how to be president until they have worn the shoes for awhile. It's a job where one rises to the occasion ~ or they don't. ~ Bush didn't, finding it easier to listen to friend, chasing down bad guys and fear of failing.
Summary, ~ The GOP is looking for a weak spot ~ anything they can find ~ in an attempt to regain power and control. ~ willing to derail functions of government as many of us look on , placing some hope in leadership, all the while losing jobs, homes and families ~ it would only take a stained blue dress and the GOP would be back in business.
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 5/9/2009 9:12:24 PM |
Just about all of us are driving nice cars and living in expensive houses so whats all the fuss about our president not doing his part to keep the economy in tac. I wonder if that included the homeless vets as well?
Oh man, that was hilarious!!!
Someone sure got some egg on their face. I wonder what username they're posting under now? I checked it out ... that guy dropped off the site 4 days after posting that thread. I'm thinking he really didn't have the heart to stay after seeing what he had done.
i was doin' good then and i'm doing great now. guess it just depends on which side of the trade you're on. Yes ... I have seen how you have been bragging about how well you were doing back then and are now doing.
From the stimulus package thread ...
i would like to take this opportunity to thank each and every one of you for the contributions you made to my economic well being and for the contributions you'll be making in the future. Does that attract more female attention for the separated man? Hmmm ... maybe some desperate woman will bite on that bait ... eh? | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 5/11/2009 2:39:18 AM | I don't know, you tell me. Seems to have gotten your attention. But, apparently you missed the point which is my fault. The message received is the message sent. All I'm trying to say is pass/don't pass a stimulus bill, bailout/don't bailout auto companies, start/don't start a TALF or PPIP program it's pretty much the same to me. I'll do fine either way and I think everyone should try to figure out how to take care of themselves and not have such a vested interest in the activity/policies of government. Back in the day I used to think politics was important. Did the civil rights marches in south Arkansas and north Louisanna. Protested the war (my bad) on the capitol steps in Little Rock. Even got my picture on the front page the Arkansas Democrat as one of dem dare hippy protestenators. However, as I get older and hopefully wiser I have come to view politics as just the mechanism for splitting up the economic pie. For instance, you see (I surmise this from your posts) UHC as something good and desirable with benefits for lots of people. I see it as bad for drug and medical device companies (sell 'em and, if you got the guts short 'em), but good for say a kidney dialysis company (medicare reinbusement up) or an overseas generic drug manufacturer (buy it).
I have my own personal perspective and act upon it. I apologize for neither. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 5/11/2009 11:05:27 AM | | You are correct sir. A lot of posts I read here are sort of the old glass half full or half empty debate. I'm trying offer a different take on the economy. To me is seems regardless of whether it's 1/2 full or 1/2 empty the glass is too big. It got pumped up on cheap money and easy credit. My fear is the administration and the Fed are trying to cure the problem with more of the same money. Which to my way of thinking is exactly the wrong thing to do. But, lets face it. Everyone wants to get re-elected. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 5/11/2009 5:53:24 PM | cotter,
How in the world did you get from my post that I have a position on UHC one way or the other. Let me state this again. I don't care if we pass UHC, a stimulus bill, TARP, TALF, PPIP or who, if anyone, we bailout or let go under.
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 9/1/2009 4:33:45 AM | well, each person needs to vote their vote ~ what good for them, That the only way it will work well.
Grave diggers and buzzards don't really care ~ unless they come under government regulation that hobble their activites and them they too all of a sudden "care"
I don't care in the sense ~ that the last 30 years has taken the best part of my life as I engaged in my profession. I topped out early and seen being "large" was just a big headache as i came under constant government interference and regulation. ~ I complied while many didn't. ~ setting the stage for poor growth. After 30 years of it, regulation is just beginning to work as it was intended.
Yeppie! ~ Life is a game of positional play. ~ We can't all be engaged in the same thing.
So I vote my vote ~ but I keep an eye on a future that will never be mine but the ones that follow me.
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 9/1/2009 7:40:37 AM | .....
Return to the Good days>>> the Bush Economy......
How about if the Neo-Cons run Palin?????
For VP GW Bush..............
Palin can quit after all the fun stuff is over and
Bush can step in and lead the country back to Previous Greatness...........
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