| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/1/2007 7:06:11 AM |
Until I see the day where my job requires me using a shovel at a national park or help homeless people build a dam in the state of georgia I'm not going to cry bout jobs, money, cost of living and how George Bush screwed us. I think alot of people need to wake up and be glad we're not advertise on japan's tvs "for a dollar a day you can feed an ex labor union gm employee who lost his job".
WOW!! That is about the same as a person telling someone who had to live through the horrors of WWII in Germany That, until you live through what happened in Cambodia with pol pot I don't want to hear about it! It is the most pathetic excuse for a poor situation the economy is in I have ever heard. Sounds like someone is feeling guilty for being part of the problem to me.
The economy is on slippery ground for sure. Even the most conservative economists are quite concerned. While much of this is not directly related to Mr. Bush.
Such as the loan problems in real estate. There also exists many things that are causing issues such as the war that are directly related to his policy. Bush screwed us in many ways most of which involve damage to our rights (patriot act) getting us involved in Iraq (which is costing us insane amounts of money), and making things very shaky as far as foreign relations go due to torture, and reneging on several treaties that could destabilize world affairs for some time to come, and other scandal involving his policies put through.) This is more where bush screwed us.
It is kind of difficult to pin all the problems of the economy directly to Bush's Actions. One could say however that he has taken few if any actions to correct it. What has been happening is denial of it existing and ignoring it. Which does come back to him and will later as well. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/1/2007 9:30:42 AM | "Just about all of us are driving nice cars"
>>>true, the American standard of living is high compared to other countries where reliable phone service doesn't exist...but, DRIVNG a car, and PAYING for it in CASH are two very different things. If you read today's paper, you may have noticed a new economic problem on the horizon...college students who got private loans have watched their rates skyrocket. The prediction is this could take on the proportions of the mortgage bubble, which brings us to your next point about living in expensive houses.
The prez isn't doing his part to keep the economy intact, no. It could be argued the legislative branch controls the economy, but I think I posted in here a while ago about how the global economy has really taken away from the American government much of its power over its own economy. Of course, if the government decides to control the influence of the GE via tariffs, etc, and decides pulling out of the Middle East will help oil flow.... | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/1/2007 8:28:20 PM | wow so our sons are sports-loving alcoholic womanizers and our daughters are materialistic whores, wow good work GWB for turning our sons in daughters into commercial commodities rather then self-thinking individuals. At least we all have nice shiny cars!
Free thought is for fools! | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/1/2007 11:16:38 PM |
wow so our sons are sports-loving alcoholic womanizers and our daughters are materialistic whores, wow good work GWB for turning our sons in daughters into commercial commodities rather then self-thinking individuals. At least we all have nice shiny cars!
Free thought is for fools!
SO true but, most people in here will probably think you are crazy. I agree 100% priorities in the USA and most of the western world are ass backwards.
Hurray for us.
Not to mention that most of the wealth this country has had is off the backs of slaves, the "third world" and anyone else our government could figure out how to dominate or enslave their own people so we can get low prices. All the while supporting dictators and playing war games every so often to make the stock market swell up and take money out of the common mans pocket to fill the greedy military industrial complex's pockets.
All of this goes in one ear and out the other of the average north american sadly. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/1/2007 11:30:31 PM | The dollar is devalued massively. The debt is rising out of control. Wealth disparity is increasing to third world levels. Working poor is on the rise.
Not all the economic indicators are bad, not all of them are good, but there is no question that a lot of these problems are going to be around for a long long time. That debt isnt' going to pay for itself. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/3/2007 11:38:00 AM | | Tell me. Do you know how many people have died under the Bush administration...where is New Orleans? Where did all those people go after fema shut down? What about all of the innocent Iraq families who have lost their children, wives, husbands to the tune of 100's of thousands what about our soldiers..do we have a real number? Do we have a number on Kertrina Deaths that could have been avoided...and now the government is cutting funding on cancer research the leading cause of death in America. If you are a Texan and vote Vote Yes for Proposition 15 which will allow funding to continue in this next election starting Oct 22 | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/3/2007 9:44:42 PM | " Jiperly, I guess you haven't heard that the unemployment rate is the lowest in 20 years and the dow is above 13,000 never in the history of the U.S has the dow reached 14,000 like it has under Bush. "
What a charmingly simplistic and misguided viewpoint. 
Bush and his policies have nothing whatsoever to do with either the "low" unemployment rate or the Dow average. Time for a reality check. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/4/2007 10:35:03 AM | ^^^^I remember the Clinton years when he boasted about how well the dow and nasdaq done under his administration. But I be Damn if a republican does it, hell if they do it and the economy is doing great it's more bout those damn republicans pulling strings to make things look good for them.
The economy is strong and the stock market backs that up. It's just the liberal one sided media that will do anything in the world to make our president looks bad. If we had a democrat president right now we have 90 percent of the country backin the war and the liberal media will come up with every excuse in the world why this war is legit war with cause. If their was a lay off during the democrat president the media would advertise it as "DOWN SIZING". Boy I remember those phrases during the Clinton years now it's just "LAY OFFS". | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/4/2007 7:46:55 PM | forgive the double post ~
how far has any of you really looked around? out of town , county, state, country?
You believe the numbers? You believe the talking heads on TV?
It's good at your house? ~ Humm ~ well ~ thats all that matters !
Anyone that's not doing well ?~ it's their fault! right? ~ some weakness in character!
Has any of you truly studied history and the rise and fall
of great nations?
You have a clue where to catch the early bus? when to be there?
We are but sheep to be sheared ~ if you havn't got there yet ~ it purly a matter of time
Money like water, it runs and flows ~ there are water sheds ~ if you are not close to a stream of flowing water, you are screwed ~ at the moment, it 's defence, oil and gas, medical, insurance, legal and politics ~~ everything else is supplied by Walmart, little chinamen and kids ~ working for crap. We can't all work for the government ~ but the 1st and the 15th ~ are big days! enough that we've got the tail wagging the dog.
In your lifetime ~ there will come a day ~ you are going to wake up an be very disappointed ~with what you see.
Bush didn't do it ~ but he did nothing to help ~ he is not a leader or a visionary for that matter ~ So~ on we go ~ down the yellow brick road. There is no money in war, wealth just changes hands ~ from one SOB to another SOB. ~ Bush was hired to lead the greatest nation on earth ~ dar | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/5/2007 1:56:40 PM |
The Bush tax cuts kicked butt. I have more money in my savings, investments, and spending budget than before because lower taxes mean more money in MY pocket
Talking about how well you're doing personally in a economic discussion is like talking about how nice the weather is in a climate change discussion.
It doesn't deserve anything but a  and a "that's nice" | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/6/2007 12:48:00 PM | | what I couldnt figure out is how we achieved over 110 thousand new jobs this last month and unemployment went up to almost five percent...oh yea, I forgot about downsizing full time jobs for three part time ones..and they have started auctioning homes here for up to a third of the market value, and five dollars for gallon of milk? and englands banks ran out of money because they had invested in us properties..at least when Clinton was in the news..it was entertainment..I dont remember any stories about veto's behind closed doors trying to stick it up the children of low income families that cant afford insurance or health care.. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/8/2007 8:56:17 AM | I don't have a laptop nor a cell phone.
The 30 dollars to put gas in my car came from the same place that the 10 dollars I used to put gas in my car back a several years ago.
Inflation has far surpassed the average person's wages.
What about the millions and millions of dollars that our government sends to these third world countries (and other modern countries), where people are living in mud houses?
Their corrupt government love's to buy weapons and wave their AK47's in the air.
Only a few pennies get to the people who need it.
Sadly, we do whine about health care.
Tell me, have you ever had a bad toothache, no insurance, no money?
That equals no Dentist, Jack.
Have you ever been really sick, no insurance, no money?
Need I say more?
I've not heard about little kids in Cambodia having their legs blown off by a land mine from WWII - but I have heard of little kids in OUR nations capital and many other cities in the USA being killed in a drive by shooting.
I've heard of people having to sleep in their bathtubs for protection from stray bullets.
Almost every city/town here in the USA has sections of town where, due to the crime, you dare not walk through it.
I see burglar bars on the windows and doors of many homes here in the USA.
I've lived in Germany for 5 years and in Finland for several months.
I have never seen burglar bars on a house there.
I've never seen a guarded, gated community in Europe, either.
I used public transportation, walked anywhere I wanted and never did even the thought of being robbed or attacked by anyone even cross my mind.
My daughter in Finland has taken a 6 week vacation and is traveling all over Europe.
She is a college student. She saved enough money to do this by working one summer.
Try to do that in the USA. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/8/2007 9:04:08 AM | "Do we have a number on Kartrina Deaths that could have been avoided"
You forgot to add "If Nagin would have used the buses and trains to evacuate the people" instead of flying to safety.
I live a 5 minute walk to the Gulf of Mexico and if a hurricane is coming, I will avoid it by going either north, east or west.
The President of the USA doesn't have to tell me to leave. I just leave and out of it's way, then come back when it's safe. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/8/2007 12:39:02 PM | Hmm...well I have a friend who was able to hire two more employees to his business because of the Bush tax cuts. The economy as a whole has been doing extremely well, at an almost utopian level. The global economy overall is doing incredibly well.
In terms of the economy, Bush has done well IMO, in terms of increasing the deficit, he has done badly. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/8/2007 1:12:23 PM | | Bushes tax cuts garnered him favour among the American people and helped him in his election bid through favourable promises. Now with cost expensures outweighing tax gains, and a defect being created, the value of the American economy in world markets has taken a tumble, as can be seen directly through the valuing of the US greenback in strength. The Canadian dollar used to be of 58 cents to the dollar, now it has risen above the US dollar and currently stands at $1.01, which hurts Candian exports as the devaluing strength of the US dollar neglect American businesses from purchasing assets from Canada and abroad as there money buys less. This can also be solved by the cliche' HUNGRY?? OUT OF WORK?? EAT YOUR IMPORT?? a quick search of ones assest per say, ie a Toyaota, a sony television, etc can see that thousands have been sent into companies (even though they may have plants and be produced by american workers) the profits non the less are directed back to the home based companies with them paying tax dollars to there countries of origion, and thus furture strengthing there economy and weakening the US by lack of currency in circulation. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/8/2007 5:09:41 PM | | This country is in a slow, methodical downward trend as related to our standard of living. Nothing will stop it. I believe, with much flak I'm sure, that the only way we can slow this downward trend is to form an alliance of the north american continent. We must stop thinking of our selves as an independent scociety. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/10/2007 6:05:18 PM | Well, right now there´s a deficit on the estates things...It´s very hard to get a credit from the United States´ banks...Another recession...
So, the analysts has been said that there´s a posibility to bomb another country...And that country will be Iran... | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/10/2007 9:26:52 PM |
During the last 20 years, some Americans have had a bad case of "afluenza", a need to keep up or surpass the Joneses. They became caught up in buying McMansions, big screen tv's, pricey SUV's, etc.. and living at the top or beyond their means. Now some of these same folks are in forclosure & in deep debt. I do not support President Bush & the amount of money he is spending on the war in Iraq, when there are people who could use help with their medical care & medication expenses in the U.S. Many people have lost jobs here as well. However, a percentage of Americans never learned how to manage their money. I grew up in lower working class family & lived a middle-class life during my marriage, but my ex & I were both sensible with our money. As children, we grew up living in older homes & older neighborhoods. Your parents might have their cars for years & they didn't have all the bells & whistles either. There is a lot of poverty in this country, but there are also many people who can't say no the latest gizmo or gadget that comes out.
While this is true. it is also true that the middle class wage has also stagnated for the last two decades, and has in fact lost ground against inflation. | |
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| If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 10/11/2007 12:45:15 AM |
The economy is great if you have the money to spare for stock options. Otherwise the rest of the economic numbers- power of the dollar, inflation, cost of living, ect,,, are not so positive.
Yup, it's a good time for the mega rich in America. | |
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