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| hey Petite...
Posted: 9/15/2006 9:46:40 PM | never needed a slut or the site. They're are plenty to go around. The problem is, most of you are so spoiled from getting your own way, you actually think thats the way it should be. "If that a$$ho$#$#$le won't go along with the program, then theres another who will".
In case you haven't noticed the idea of being a couple means that you actually do things for the both of you. Not what you want. When you grow up, maybe you'll appreciate what a really good man can do, instead of worrying how long a timetable he's got before the next jerk comes along to satisfy your needs and only your needs. Judging by your statement, your men might have a faster timetable. What does your man have 2 months or 3???, before he's kicked to the curb??LOL!! Mostly, its the ones working on their 2nd and 3rd husbands. So, how many have you been through, Petite???
This ain't High School anymore ladies and judging by most of your birth certificates thats was a long way away.
Truth is, I love women. hopefully one day I'll find one that realizes what the real deal is. And that has nothing to do with putting another diamond ring on your finger. Ultimately, its our own fault, because we let you get away with it..... | |
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| hello sunshine...
Posted: 9/15/2006 10:01:24 PM | well between you and classy, we have some classy intelligent women. I was married quite a long time as well. Truth is (or maybe in my limited expierence) thats what I've observed. It gets crazy, date after date after date. Not very fulfilling.
i've been told, "Well, on my last date so and so took me to the Water Club, took me here and there"."But I really didn't have no connection with him". NEXT!!! "Oh, I only have Chilean Sea Bass for this or that or this or that". NEXT!!! After that, I shut right down, have a drink, because this is going nowhere.
I'm not here to finance anyones search for love besides my own. I said this in my other post, SPOILED comes to mind. Evidently, there are so many single men out there searching for anything, that they are willing to put up with the bulls$%%t. I however am not. So I guess Petite is right, because on the slut sites, at least, "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!" thank you, sunshine | |
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| wow....
Posted: 9/15/2006 10:28:41 PM | I haven't wrote this many letters in a long time. Ok, Dreammaker, hopefully your the last one. Lets take things one step at a time.
1. Next level. If things are going great, having fun, and only seeing you. Why must it go to the next level? Whats the difference?? Are we having fun?? Are we together? I'm 50 years old, the odds of me meeting and seeing a super-model are about the odds of hitting Mega-Millions. Whats the difference?? Thats where...
#2 Trust comes in.....married or not, living together or not.....without trust forget it. So the next level means nothing without trust. Trust is also someting that doesn't come along in a certain time frame, it has to be earned.
#3 Now the rough one "Communication". Thats pretty tough, because men and women don't communicate very well. Women feel men "SHOULD KNOW", but actually we have no idea. Not that we don't, I guess we can't. Women delve into the details, guys just scan the surface. Unless we're actually told straight up in actual words, we just don't know. You can't pose or gesture or make believe your getting accross, because your not.
#4 Compromise....thats easy..."YOUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!!!"...got that one.
#5 Emotional level??? Thats funny, whats that???? Guys have about 1 or 2 emotional levels, and thats about it. If I'm there and with you, enjoying your company. Well? thats it. If I didn't want to be there, then I wouldn't. Its really that simple.
Men are really simple creatures. I for one is easy going and easy to please. Just don't start nagging, prodding and grumbling. I will do just about whatever you want, as long as I have a little space. Remember, if we didn't want to be there, we wouldn't, so don't chase us away.. | |
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| wow....
Posted: 9/16/2006 7:28:19 AM | tenx9
1. If things are going great as you say, the natural progression of going to the next level would happen on it's own and if that doesn't happen it's for 2 possible reasons. Either it's not meant to be or that you're afraid and won't allow yourself for whatever reason.
2. I do agree with you that without trust you have nothing. Yes trust is also something earned not just given. But for many due to past relationships they have issues with trusting another person. All I have to say about that is GET OVER IT. If you can't work through your trust issues than you don't belong getting into a relationship in the first place.
3. Let me just say that I don't feel anyone "should know" as you say without being told what may or may not be important to them. I believe if you share your needs, wants and desires with another then they have the information and it's up to them to choose to use it.
4. I disagree it's NOT "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY" Compromise is key you have to be willing to meet halfway. It can't always be onesided either. You won't always see things the same way so you also have to be willing to agree to disagree.
5. As far as your emotional level I would agree only by saying that men are less emotional than woman BUT I believe they are more emotional then they claim. I think it's about there ego as to why they don't show that side of them.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE LOVE FOR A DAY THEN TO NEVER HAVE HAD IT AT ALL!!! | |
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| hey Petite...
Posted: 9/16/2006 11:19:58 AM | "In case you haven't noticed the idea of being a couple means that you actually do things for the both of you. Not what you want. When you grow up, maybe you'll appreciate what a really good man can do, instead of worrying how long a timetable he's got before the next jerk comes along to satisfy your needs and only your needs. Judging by your statement, your men might have a faster timetable. What does your man have 2 months or 3???, before he's kicked to the curb??LOL!! Mostly, its the ones working on their 2nd and 3rd husbands. So, how many have you been through, Petite???"
TENX..If you would just take a step for yourself for one moment and actually READ what you are writing... you would see what everother woman sees here on this post... a very very angry bitter man... Fix that ... find the GOOD and maybe you will have better success
AND speaking of SUCCESS to answer your question on my longivty in realationships...MARRIED once, in 1979 divorced in 2003 ... So I could probally teach you a few things on being a couple....and making it work. I have done the work and many others have too.
hummm guess that broke that therory....
Lighten UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| hello sunshine...
Posted: 9/16/2006 11:38:46 AM | "So I guess Petite is right, because on the slut sites, at least, "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!" thank you, sunshine"
Yep Tenx... as they say... there is a lid for every pot... or on the online dating sites..
a SITE for everyone,,,
Try the slut site.. cause you think women are only good for one thing anyway...
based on your above comment. You will get exactly what you want and need. | |
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 9/16/2006 5:58:18 PM | Dude,
Some women like jerks who treat them like crap. They dislike guys that treat them nice. It's not exciting to them. Just like one of the female replys to this posting stated, "you sound like a pushover". Women can sense desperation and they take it as a sign of weakness. They want a strong man who might or might not give a crap about how they feel on any given occasion. Don't try so hard, be less predictable, enjoy yourself.
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 9/16/2006 9:47:45 PM | If you truly want to know what a woman wants from a man, ask THAT WOMAN you are dating. She should know what she wants. And if she doesn't, then think about it, is she worth your time? Both of you have to be on the same page. Communication is the key in any relationship. Why go around asking other people what women want when the question is what does that particular woman wants that truly matters. You will get as many different responses as there are people as everyone has different wants and needs.
I know several women who only care about living a high lifestyle (money being the most important factor in their relationship) that they don't care how the man treats them as long as they get the monetary things they crave. I remember listening to one man brag about how many women he did right in front of his wife and the rest of us at the table and she laughed and told us about the time she picked crabs off him after one of his encounters. Talk about gross. Those 2 deserved each other. He doesn't respect women and she doesn't respect herself.
There are some women who want the bad boy type of man, maybe for excitement or maybe thinking they can change them, which of course smart people know you cannot change anyone but yourself. Others want the attractive dynomite looking man, doesn't matter how he treats her, just as long as he is handsome. Dont get me wrong people, there are plenty of men who are handsome who know how to treat a woman right.
When my ex and I separated, I made a list of things that I want in a man. Of course, no man will ever have everyone of those qualities I list, but it is a guideline to go by. Some are not negotiable, he must have certain qualities in order to pursue a relationship. Other things I list are more like a wish list, like an added bonus. LOL I made this list years ago. Every now and then I go over it and see if there are things to add or remove and to be honest, very few things, if any, get change. I know what I want and I won't settle. If it means I will live alone for the rest of my life, that's ok. But I am hoping that there will be someone out there for me again.
So you see cutie26, there are women who know what they want, you just have to ask the right question with the right woman. And never think you HAVE to buy things to prove your love, love should never be bought, except maybe with the 2 aquaintances I mentioned before. ugh
You say you wind up losing them and that they are passing up a good thing. You should be thankful that they leave before you were to get married, if that were your intention. It gets uglier then. Some people are not happy people and even if a good thing were right in front of them, they would continue to search for their "happiness" with or without you. It better to let them go, even if it is painful to you.
For the most part, us women want what you men want. To be loved, appreciated, respected, cared for, and feel safe and secure with our mate. Not to feel used or abused or taken for granted.
Don't give up the search. The right one is out there for you. Gotta have patience. | |
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| whats actually,
Posted: 9/16/2006 11:27:48 PM | pretty funny and pretty sad, is that you never see the flip side of the coin. You have such big blinders on that its impossible for anybody but yourself to be right. You talk in such high tones that it must be the way it is. Maybe thats the way it is with you, but that not the way it is.
True story,although only 1 story, I know. I'm on the express bus coming home from work. From the back of bus I hear a woman talkking on her cell phone (and yes I hate those things too), she must have been talking to her girlfriend. It went something like this, "If he thinks he's going to get away with putting a ring on my finger........etc". Finally after about 20 minutes of her yelling on the phone, the bus driver had to tell her to pipe down and let everyone sleep, LOL!!!
Your also missing another point, I'm not a bitter, callous man who just hates women. I just can do without the process, the bulls%%^t and the song and dance routine, which women cherish. Gives them a sense of command, I guess.
The other side of the coin is also, (And I think its most men my age, I'm sure I'll recieve plenty of cards and letters about this) men have to pursue and write and call...etc. Women sit back, wait for the email and only respond, IF they feel like it. I've written to so many women I forgot who the hell I wrote too. Its like a mass mailing from the post office, sooner of later someone replies (mostly later) and then you have to figure out who the hell it is.
It is fixed, by the way............I only respond when some knucklehead thinks she has the only answers. I guess most of us stumble along until some wonderful woman comes along to put us on the right path, LOL!!!
Oh yeah, I know this isn't in your world either but, I've never been with a hooker, they're are plenty of regular women around who spread their legs to get want they want. Been doing that for thousands of years and I doubt very much that will ever change. I know your shocked, and never heard of that.....It makes sense to me now, you've only been in 1 relationship.............lucky you.. | |
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| whats actually,
Posted: 9/17/2006 7:06:08 AM | Tenx9,
Who was it that you were addressing on this one? | |
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| whats the difference.......
Posted: 9/17/2006 7:30:21 AM | your all out to get me......I'm surrounded by assassins!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! there coming for me now!!! The walls are closing in............................
ps. gotcha!!! | |
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| whats the difference.......
Posted: 9/17/2006 7:33:04 AM | Tenx9,
I think you need to learn how to be a good listener. I think you have been given some pretty good advice by some of us, but you seem to be to close minded to use it....
Think about it.............. | |
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| the advice is..........
Posted: 9/17/2006 11:47:27 AM | go along with the program and you'll do, ok
Thanks I already knew that............ | |
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 9/17/2006 9:53:23 PM | | I've done that too, it doesn't work. You have to be a leader and be reasonable and do what's really best for the relationship, and find out what the relationship really is about. Then you can act appropriately and not just what the "traditional" things we're supposed to do. Learning and being real and strong and honest and reasonable and work it together for the good of both people. Love is caring about the other person enough to be strong yet flexible when you have to decide what is best, I guess... | |
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| Bob...
Posted: 9/18/2006 5:10:17 AM | I respectively decline to comment and I am invoking my rights accorded to me by the 5th Ammendment. As my answer may prove to incriminate me....
there happy........ | |
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 9/18/2006 12:35:17 PM | WELL I KNOW WHAT I WANT
I WANT A STRONG MAN(MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY), I WANT A MAN TO KNOW MY LIKES AND DISLIKES, CATER TO ME MENTALLY,PHYSICALLY, SEXUALLY. I WANT A MAN TO ACCEPT ME AS I AM AND NOT TRY AND CHANGE ME. I WANT HIM TO ACCEPT ME CATERING TO HIS NEEDS AS I NEED HIM TO CATER TO MINES.
MANOGAMY!!!!!!!WOW. A MAN THAT DONT CHEAT, DONT MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY ABUSE, AND EXCEPTS MY KIDS.
GIVE ME THIS AND THATS MY PERFECT MAN!!!!!!!! | |
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| My God!!!!
Posted: 9/19/2006 6:12:38 AM | | no comment............. | |
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 9/23/2006 9:25:10 AM | Its all about communication.....
Women do not want a man who is insecure. What women want is a man who is secure. This is what I mean: When a man sees a women upset sometimes he might say: Did I do something wrong? -Men DO NOT ever say this, this will set you up for a bad fall and the relationship will turn sour. She will automatically remember all the bad in the relationship and it will make it worse and it will seem like you are insecure. Instead say this: Is there anything I can do for you honey? And then give her a hug. She will respond in a good way if you do this. Let me know if this helps you and if anyone has any questions let me know and I will be happy to try to answer. | |
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| i always get a kick out of this....
Posted: 9/23/2006 7:25:59 PM | Hi lorretta,
think about what you just wrote and believe me I know your trying to help. So far, what I got is...its only what a women wants....She WANTS a secure man...DO NOT ask if something is wrong......instead , is there something I CAN DO for you honey?? She will RESPOND in a positive way.
Not once did you mention if the man is upset, and frankly is the man even there or have to be? Do you care how the guy responds? Obviously not.
Reminds me of all the mindless TV commercials where the dumb husband needs advice on just about everything from his wife. Funny stuff.
Like I've always said, it's mostly our fault. But then, we're just dumb creatures plodding around waiting for direction.......Funny stuff, I enjoyed it.. | |
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| to everyone on the post
Posted: 11/13/2006 10:21:53 AM | you know you all act like you know what everyone wants. You dont!!!! everyone wants some thing differant out of life. dont mind the spelling. i by the way and a push over i'm just a romantic guy. I think i have found a potental mrs. right but i have to put some effort into it but i do thank you for all your advise it was good. | |
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| wow....
Posted: 1/18/2007 7:32:09 AM | You are very rare in that you use logic and rationale to bolster your opinion......
Surprisingly two pretty obviously qualities few today really have, but think they do....
My best always!!!
jim | |
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 1/20/2007 12:42:25 PM | To be honest, I wish I knew, they are so varied. You have to be this way or that way. You have to look like this, but you don't. You need/must have this to get my attention, all of that is not necessary. And this all can be within the same woman in her choices of eligable partners. The hardest thing a man can do is try to figure out what is in a woman's heart because it could be one way one minute and another the next. And we are left confused as to what to do and what not to do. And this is why so many of us don't bother with approaching. This is why, if a woman cannot articulate exactly what she wants it, how she wants it, and when she wants it. I don't bother even trying, from personal experience, it leads to a lot of false assumptions and arguements.
Perfect example are the 7 women who's profiles I read carefully. Took some time to think about what they wrote and matched it up with my profile. And then, emailed them on Jan 1, 2007. I thought I had the qualifications to at least get me in the door...NOPE! ZERO! NO GO! 3 deleted the message immediately after reading (no response). 4 read it and didn't respond, so on Monday I send out a nice letter with professional words stating how much their lacked of response spoke in volumes. 1 replied back, but I told her politely that the person who gave her a good testimonial probably didn't think about how she related to others/strangers making friendly contact.
So, what is a man to do? Keep on trying and getting doors slammed in his face until someone pities him at an old age and decides to take him in to her heart in his twilight years? | |
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 1/20/2007 2:54:02 PM | HI. JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'AM A WOMEN WHO GIVES MY ALL
WHEN IN A RELATIONSHIP, ONLY TO GET HURT IN THE END. SO,
WHATS THE DEAL HERE. MAYBE WE JUST CONNECT WITH THE WRONG
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 1/20/2007 11:20:21 PM | | you maybe trying to hard just relax take things slow if you find a girl who you really like and she likes you then you buy her things but not until you know that she truely wants you for you | |
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| Women what do they want from a guy
Posted: 1/26/2007 2:40:59 PM | | I just want to feel loved the same way I can love. I'm not interested in the material stuff, don't take me wrong sometimes it helps but is not all in life. | |
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