| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 10/25/2006 1:38:28 PM | | Art is a craft. I play music It is art and also my craft. | |
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 10/25/2006 9:21:51 PM | Hi ......
well, I think it is both. Pottery can be taken to levels where it is an art form. When it becomes expressive, and relates to the art world in terms of their definitions etc. I don't understand that part all the time ..... it is frustrating. turning out lots of the same thing is likely a craft. Turning out "Pieces" done with artistic intent, and expression, I would say, is art. Some museums have decorative arts with pottery in the collections, and some little pots are worth LOTS and LOTS of money depending on the artist.
I am not a potter, but, would like to take ceramics. Sure hope so, however, am into so many other things, it might have to wait !! (unfortunately)
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 10/28/2006 1:21:09 PM | I would say it takes Craft to create Art.
well said.
The diligence and talent it takes to create an object is craft. But in it's creation, if the person adds something to the piece that expresses his sense of esthetic, it's art! | |
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Posted: 10/31/2006 7:46:13 AM | Funny, I consider some music people make more "craft" than "art"....so I suppose the term can apply to music too. There is music that is just functional....and music that is art.
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Gift
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Joined: 5/7/2006
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 11/6/2006 7:38:03 PM |
The same gang that has shi*t on the craft world has come up with this idea of explaining work via the "artist statement," another load of horse shi*t
Hahaha, oh man thats classic.
Art vs. Craft
I'd say craft is the means of expressing ones creativity leading to the production of a work of art.
So if I craft a card, the final product is the art. Process and product. | |
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 11/8/2006 5:17:30 PM | i think it is craft unles you hand paint it then it is art  | |
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Gift
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Joined: 5/7/2006
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 1/30/2007 1:50:53 PM | And so rather than a fork in the road where possibly a decision is made that becomes a difference; we have merely come to a place in the road where one stands and argues with his associate on the other side of the pavement over the view. Perspective cannot be fairly judged yet it provides a constant source of debate. The argument is over words and connotation rather than any true difference in meaning. Dictionary definitions interchange these words. We all ascribe meanings to words based on our experience with usage which changes fairly frequently. And so a question of the application of words actually reveals more sociology? | |
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Posted: 7/17/2007 4:44:13 PM | For the traditionalists: Michaelangelo worked in a studio as an apprentice to learn his craft. Craft used to simply mean made by hand. Was he an artist? When did craft become synonymous with tawdry or cheap? There is honor in making by hand, whether functional, emotive or "decorative". If you work to develop a skill, apply it, look for new approaches and perfect your craft, you do put your soul into it. It just may not please everyone, and isn't that a nice thing? Other wise you'd sell it through Wal Mart or outsource it to a 3rd world country.
Was it your idea? Did you make aesthetic judgements? Did express anything through the work?
Sometimes you have to educate the public and some of the public really doesn't care. Ignore the slurs of the plebians. They probably have a kitten decor in their bathroom, lol. | |
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 7/18/2007 11:29:19 PM | Craft is one's field of Art. On the other hand, there are many "technicians" but very few musicians.
So while good taste and skill may sound like inspiration and talent, they are not. | |
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 7/20/2007 4:26:45 AM | Craft is one's field of Art. On the other hand, there are many "technicians" but very few musicians.
I absolutely agree with this statement. Anyone can learn a craft if they so choose. But there is an aspect of Art that cannot be taught, and cannot be learned no matter how much one were to practice a craft nor how technically correct one is. The true artist brings life to the craft. Case in point. One church I was attending had two ladies that were exceptionally good pianists. One's playing, although technically exceptionally correct - left me cold. It had no life. The other, on the other hand, poured her being into her playing and I could listen to her for hours. Her music had a life all it's own. That is the difference between Craft and Art. | |
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 7/20/2007 8:28:31 AM | | A craft takes skill and talent to produce. Crafts are usually those things that have utility done in a individual style. There are many talented craftsmen and woman working around the world. A few of those with Inspiration can turn that craft into an Art. One example is, blowing glass. It is a craft. Dale Chihuly turned Glass blowing into his Art. I have seen Blacksmiths , Woodworkers, Potters, Weavers, and Quilters that have taken their craft to a new level. A level that is considered Fine Art. The true merit of any work of art is the test of time no matter what medium. | |
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Posted: 7/23/2007 6:43:29 AM | | I think its the same animal only a differint breed much like dogs, Im a wall muralist painter and you know pottery was around when cavemen were creating plates and painting on there cave walls thousands of years ago. The both of them have a history that binds them togehter by individual expression and thats how pure both crafts are. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2007 11:47:03 AM | | I guess you can say Art doesn't have to be a Craft, but a Craft is also an Art. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2007 9:18:12 PM | | In my opinion, it's a mixture of both elements. Pottery is craft because inner feelings are expressed manually in motion. It's art by your hand movements & all feelings expressed as still motion for a meaning. | |
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Joined: 3/28/2007
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 7/27/2007 3:34:08 AM | Time to stop using the word 'craft' as a object.
Art is the product of a craft, not the other way around.
Craft is the skill, and art is the product.
Sheesh there are far too many art snobs in this world | |
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 8/1/2007 3:02:08 PM | atalia said "Time to stop using the word 'craft' as a object.
Art is the product of a craft, not the other way around.
Craft is the skill, and art is the product."
I agree with you. Totally. Personally I'm a total klutz when it comes to pottery and I've done enough hand building and throwing to understand just how bad my skills really are. I really appreciate good pottery though and collect it to fill my home because it brings me joy. Most of the pieces are functional, but when I hold them to the light or nestle them in my hand I feel something so much more than "it will hold water". Granted if it's intended to be functional then it should work for it's intended purpose, but that has never been the sole reason for me to buy or trade for a piece. I see more to it than that and usually I want to affirm the direction the potter is going and encourage them to continue so I can find their treasures again later and buy another one. Bravo for good potters. It's an art form as old as mankind and even non-traditonal pottery is steeped in tradition. There's always going to be someone looking down their nose at someone else. The multitude of reasons why this snobbery exists is unimportant. So what? Tastes vary consumer to consumer.
My deceased husband had an exhibit once. Some fool came up with his wife to look at the original watercolors priced very cheaply. The fool told his wife "Hell, for that kinda money you can run down to Wal Mart and buy one with a clock in it." We just laughed over that one. It takes all kinds. You have to develop some kind of callus to it and a sense of humor or it robs you of that which makes you do it to begin with. Feed your soul and the rest will follow. | |
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Posted: 8/2/2007 4:47:28 PM | | Please elaborate what folks say or mean when they imply that pottery may not be art or craft. | |
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Posted: 8/13/2007 10:23:37 PM | | Art is the canvas for the soul. Craft is cheese. | |
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Posted: 8/13/2007 11:00:54 PM | a Man digging a Ditch is an Artist........from wunder into wunder existence opens
there is more Fun in the Making Art than the End product | |
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Posted: 8/16/2007 5:36:42 AM | Art is the canvas for the soul. Craft is cheese.
...expanding on the above. While Kraft (ooops, I meant cheese!  ) is certainly a wonderful food in its own right, use it in combination with other ingredients seasoned with "soul" and a simple food becomes a masterpiece that caresses the palate, as opposed to something that simply tastes pleasing. Therein lies the difference between art and craft.
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 8/16/2007 7:53:59 AM | Previous post is a good one :)
Crafts are often repeatable, reproducible, and lack the originality or ability to intellectually&emotionally "engage" the viewer.
Sometimes, the same piece can be both artistic in it's originality, but a craft, due to it's physical components.
Don't fret it :)
Artist or craftsman... Craftsmen usually make more money ;) and are often valued as much or more for their "skill."
Art has to be "appreciated" ... crafts are pretty much accepted already :)
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 8/16/2007 7:56:25 AM | sorry... the post I was referring to was the last on on the first page.
As a photographer I hit the art vs craft all the time. I'm a skilled craftsman in the darkroom, and with my tools. But I have an artistic eye, and use my craft to capture my art :)
Confused? ;)
Scott
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atalia
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 9/1/2007 4:54:52 AM | While people continue to view a craft as an object confusion will still reign, I repeat, craft is a skill not a product, so how can it be inferior to art if it is the skill required to make it.
There is no contest, there is no art vs craft unless you are a jumped up artist insecure in your own talent, and needing to knock someone else to promote yourself. | |
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| Art vs. Craft
Posted: 6/19/2008 11:01:53 AM | true dat true dat if its a tissue box with glitter on it god that not art or craft its crap
the only contest is self
knocking dats crap. to encourage and evolution follows | |
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