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Posted: 12/17/2006 2:24:09 PM | we may have more rights then other countries but the government is slowly taking away our rights. you heard of contractors milking a job well the govenment is milking the people of our money, our freedom and our rights.
misty, you didn't know what the government does for immigrants. i know 3 families that came from korea. the original family bought a grocery store, 4 yrs later after saving money earned, living off of the governments money....our money.....the tax payers money, the were sending money to korea back to other family members to come here. the government did the same for their family as well, the original family "gave" the business to their family that was bought over here. there was also a chinese family that i know...they came here, the government gave them money to start up a business and let them stay here tax free for 5 years. the business is in the parents names but the son runs it. illegals, if not caught and deported takes away work from the american people. they are the ones that a lot of farm people look for...they are the ones that would work their asses off to make enough money to live off of. over the summer, i went to a horse farm to see about work...something to hold me over until i was able to find something else. the owner told me that he had to wait to see if the mexican was able to get back across the border since he wanted to go see his family. he was also an illegal. there's also the fact that illegal mexicans are also being hired as helpers for carpenters, roofers, and so forth. do you remember me telling you about the carpenter's helper position i called about, went to meet the owner for an interview and was turned down. the owner told me (weeks later after numerous unanswered phone calls) that he "hired someone with more experience" that i have. how in the hell does he know how much experience do i have unless i worked for him before. needless to say, i went passed one of his jobs and what do i see there but a mexican working.
as for jailtime....murderers do jailtime even if they were found on lesser charges. if i was being burglurized (sp) in my own home, if i were to kill the person for breaking into my home as long as either 1 he is armed, or 2 he physically harmed me i would be given a lesser sentence if not any at all. like i told the state trooper, i'd much rather prefer to shoot someone in their ass then to kill a person and they know that i will do just that. i told the trooper that someone being shot in the ass is easier to identify and it would be embarrasing to them to explain just why they can't sit down. i would much rather the person tell the police and judge why it was that they decided to rob and/or harm me. i agree with you with celebraties getting away with murder in more ways than one but hey, it's all greed. | |
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Posted: 12/17/2006 4:10:09 PM | U can no longer drink and walk home or u get arrested for Public Drunkeness, u can't protect urself even in ur home or ur up for attempted or manslaughter whichever!
Example a Grandfather kills his grandaughters rapist in his own home, because the Rapist had no gun so the grandfather is up for murder...!!
U spend more time in jail for Drugs then u do if ur a child molester, Rapist or Murderer..????
If ur a Celebrity u get away w/ Murder and Child Molestion!!
Money talks ...Bull..Sh$tt WALKS..!!!
We have more Americans working 4 slave wages, but if ur a Foreigner ur hired 1st or even set up owning ur own business! in 5 years!
I mean wtf gives here..????
Thank the GOVERMENT, but they certainly give their selves enough pay rasies!
pony didn't u read my whole post..? I already stated more or less what u have just stated in my post?
And ur right about the illegal immigrants we have the Mexicans here working for 50 cents an hr. picking apples but the owner got fined!
PPL like Mr Magoo think there irreplaceable of there jobs, but there not!
There was an interview on TV w/ Mexicans and they were laughing at the Americans saying how greedy we were which is true to some extent... and that when we want $17 an hr they'll work for $7 an Hr. but our cost of living has sky rocketed...yet it just makes u wanna ship them all back on their Boats!
I also beleive if any foreigner is going 2 come here 2 live then they should be the ones to be forced to speak English not us learning their Language, that's why were turning in2 a 3rd world country! we are the ones becoming a Minority, and we are the ones who have alot of homeless ppl whom we should be considering 1st..!!!  | |
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Posted: 12/17/2006 7:30:45 PM | hmmmm, mr. magoo challenged me to go anywhere outside of the u.s.a. and prove to him things can be better elsewhere....................
if i were to move outside of the usa i would rather live in canada. atleast there they accept all people and religions. they also offer free health care, the canadian government gives them money every year, even if your working, you get $400 per person in 1 household, like lets say you're married with a family of 4 you would get $1,600.00 a year. the population rate in canada is far less compared to the u.s. canadians are more accepted world wide as oppossed to americans, and canada does help the needy just like the u.s. when it comes to war we ask questions first then if the situation calls for it, shoot. you should look into the difference between canada and the u.s.a.
now for saying what i had to say, maybe i should go there. i would atleast get rid of one pita. | |
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Posted: 12/17/2006 8:55:18 PM | Free Health Care? Define "Free". Doctors and nurses and hospitals are not working for free. SOMEONE has to pay for it. Who do you think it is? It's the people in Canada who actually have JOBS that are paying for the "FREE" healthcare. Those people are TAXED TO DEATH up there. Just remember, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
The Canadian government "gives" them $400 per person? Wow. The US "gives" us $5350 per year as a discount on our income taxes (called a standard deduction).
Just to clarify the following comparisons, GDP is a region's gross domestic product, one of several measures of the size of its economy
Here are some stats:
Personal Disposable Income per capita (2005)
Canada: $20,682 USD US: $30,469 USD US has a 32.1% higher disposable income. That is VERY significant.
Unemployment rate (2003-2004)
Canada: 7.2% US: 5.5%
Government Debt as % of GDP (2004)
Canada: 72.2% US: 64.0%
Educational Expenditure as % of GDP (2004)
Canada: 6.1% US: 7.3%
US spends 1.2% more money on education as expressed in % of GDP.
Health Care Expenditure as % of GDP (2003)
Canada: 9.9% US: 15.0%
US spends 1.5 times more money on health care as expressed in % of GDP.
Total Tax Receipts as % of GDP (2002)
Canada: 33.9% US: 26.4%
Canada collects 7.5% more money in taxes as expressed in % of GDP.
Sure the population is far less, but Canada has far more uninhabitable land. And fewer people means more money required from EACH person to sustain the economy.
These statistics do not take into consideration the general higher cost of living in Canada.
So you feel that that is a better place to live, huh? Do you expect that you would be able to just march up there and find a better-paying job? Do you think that even if you were to make the SAME kind of money, that your standard of life would be better.. or even close to the same? How much more do you think you would have to pay for heat in the winter? Compare the conveniences that you take so sorely for granted: superior telephone service (and more choices); superior transportation modes (more and better highways), more professional sports teams, more places to vacation, more places to go for entertainment. Just like in Mexico, people in Canada are trying to come here to get jobs. I could go on and on.
I don't know who is filling your head with this nonsense, but Canada's standard of living doesn't come anywhere NEAR what the US's is. There is NO WAY that life is better in Canada.
And to top it off, you would have to learn to speak the language, eh? | |
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Posted: 12/17/2006 9:08:34 PM | Language eh lol... you should learn afew things about Canada as well.
You have to keep in mind Micro, that In the US, is a march larger area of land,
and the amount of people living in the US are doubled compared to Canada.
When you do your little survey's, its not really a fair comparison. Who I am to say right,
I am just the guy that lives where the grass is greener.
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Posted: 12/17/2006 9:39:57 PM |
In the US, is a march larger area of land,
Canada has 3.5% more area than the US. The US has .7% more land. That is hardlywhat I would call much larger.
and the amount of people living in the US are doubled compared to Canada.
Doubled? No. The U.S. has NINE times as many people.
When you do your little survey's, its not really a fair comparison. Who I am to say right,
I am just the guy that lives where the grass is greener.
That wasn't a survey. That was a product of direct research. WHAT PART is not really a fair comparison?
I'm glad, that since you live there, you feel the grass is greener. That's the way it should be. I would want to be patriotic about my home country too.
Canada Kicks Ass
That's not their new motto, is it?
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Posted: 12/17/2006 10:12:56 PM |
That's not their new motto, is it?
lol, thats one of our beer slogans,
Doubled? No. The U.S. has NINE times as many people.
But do you get what I mean micro when I say
the population is much higher in the US? So when
the US government pays more for education,
they aren't paying for just 10 provinces and 2
territories, they're paying for 50 states lol.
Canada has 3.5% more area than the US. The US has .7% more land. That is hardlywhat I would call much larger.
As for the land mass, it sure does seem that
the US is a much larger place lol.
Anyways,
Merry Christmas Micro, hey I seen
you post about driving to Chicago, so
drive safe alright buddy.
Cheers. | |
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Posted: 12/18/2006 10:42:34 PM | Hey all,
Below is an article I got from Yahoo headlines. I've abbreviated and italicized some parts. References to Japan and the American federal health study were particularly interesting.
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Hawaii to tourists: Can the cigarettes
By BRIAN CHARLTON, Associated Press Writer Mon Dec 18, 11:37 AM ET
HONOLULU - Hawaii, known for its fresh ocean air and pristine beauty, has implemented one of the nation's strictest no-smoking laws...banning smoking in all public places such as restaurants, bowling alleys, and malls, as well as airports...State officials say the new law will protect people from secondhand smoke, but some fear it may deter cigarette-puffing tourists from coming to the islands, especially high-spending visitors from Japan.
Many of the islands already had county laws limiting smoking, but lighting up now in partially enclosed areas, bars and less than 20 feet from doorways and windows is illegal...
But some worry international visitors, especially from Japan, the largest group of foreign tourists to Hawaii, won't immediately adjust or understand the new policies that could result in fines...
The state is working with Japanese travel wholesalers and agents to inform visitors, and airports are playing recorded greetings to inform travelers...
Yujiro Kuwabara of the Japan Travel Bureau said even in cigarette-friendly Japan, smoke-free pedestrian areas have been set up in the nation's capital. He predicts the toughest challenge will be explaining the new rules, especially when it comes to the small percentage of hotel rooms where smoking is allowed...
Tourist Rie Koyama, of Saitama, Japan, said she can follow the new law, but believes other smokers may avoid making the trip to Hawaii...
"Japan is a smoker's paradise," she said while smoking with friends on Waikiki Beach...
While Japan's smoking rate has declined for about 10 years, about 45 percent of Japanese men smoke, according to a 2005 survey by Japan Tobacco Inc...
In the past decade, restaurants there have begun offering no-smoking sections, and train platforms have set up designated smoking areas. Public facilities and hospitals are now smoke-free and local officials in Tokyo fine anyone who smokes in certain parts of the city.
Officials [in Hawaii] hope businesses and public pressure become a front-line for enforcement, said Julian Lipsher, a public health educator with state Health Department...
The outdoor International Marketplace in Waikiki, featuring more than 100 souvenir stands, already posted "no smoking" signs, along with many beachside bars and outdoor hotel sitting areas. Honolulu International Airport has eliminated a designated area in the airport and will now direct all smokers to a few uncovered areas away from the building.
More than 126 million Americans are regularly exposed to smokers' fumes and tens of thousands die each year as a result, according to a federal study released earlier this year. It cited "overwhelming scientific evidence" that secondhand smoke causes heart disease, lung cancer and other illnesses...
In Hawaii, only about 17 percent of adults smoke, the fourth-lowest rate in the nation, according to the state Health Department...
Most residents and tourists said they favor the new law, which was opposed by only three state senators and four representatives...
"I love it. I'm so happy to be able to breathe again," said tourist Debbie Liston, 40, of Seattle.
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Meanwhile, here in Pittsburgh, the two downtown restaurant owners went to court against our county's January-2nd-planned smoking ban today. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2006 3:12:22 PM | Argh! Shame on me for not reading my own local paper last Wednesday. I heard this on the local tv news yesterday. Surprise, surprise, surprise! R.J. Reynolds Tobacco is behind this local lawsuit! I'm pasting the article below. Sorry for the length but I'm choosing not to delete any for brevity. If it's too long for you please skip it.
More than ten years ago I met Bill Godshall of Tobacco Free PA when I discussed with him what strategy I might use to handle my unemployment appeal hearing. I had to quit the job over recurrent cigarette-smoke-caused sinus infections. The supervisor did her best to get my a$$ outta there to protect her own right to smoke on the job. My case went all the way to PA Commonwealth Court, where the employer finally won. Because earlier decisions had gone in my favor I did not have to repay my unemployment benefits. As I see it, the time just wasn't yet right for the nonsmokers' cause. I had to use--and was grateful to have access to--a legal services free attorney. The guy who finally wrote the legal brief was filling in for his boss (on surgical sick-leave) who originally agreed, with excitement, to take the case.
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Tobacco company funding legal challenge to smoking ban
R.J. Reynolds helps restaurants sue Allegheny County
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
By Gabrielle Banks, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Officials at tobacco giant R.J. Reynolds said yesterday the company is footing the bill for two Downtown restaurant owners to fight Allegheny County's smoking ban, set to take effect Jan. 2.
A representative said the company, based in Winston-Salem, N.C., also likely paid for phone banks the Pennsylvania Tavern Association set up to try to block the ban before County Council passed it 14-1.
For three weeks, phone bankers contacted constituents with liquor licenses and patched willing licensees directly into their council members' offices. The tavern association would not say who paid for the phone banks, but Reynolds said it funded similar efforts elsewhere.
"This is standard operating tobacco industry procedure," said Stanton A. Glantz, a professor at the University of California, San Francisco, who has been documenting tobacco control policy since 1978.
"The first city or county in a given state to pass a smoking ban gets sued. It's like clockwork. In the past, Philip Morris was more notorious, but Reynolds has been taking the lead lately," he said.
The practice is legal. Reynolds signs on as a joint client and funds local plaintiffs who have legal standing to sue, said spokeswoman Maura Payne.
The tobacco company's name does not appear on the paperwork, but it might pay "easily into the tens of thousands of dollars" to block anti-smoking legislation, said Edward L. Sweda, senior attorney at the Tobacco Control Resource Center in Boston.
Bill Godshall, who testified before County Council for Smoke Free Pennsylvania, said Reynolds "may have been looking for choice plaintiffs to make it look like the poor little restaurant owner versus the big bad county solicitor, where it really is the big bad R.J. Reynolds versus the poor little county solicitor."
The pressure has been building for the tobacco industry since the first anti-smoking laws passed in the mid-1970s. Since then, more than 500 municipalities in 35 states and the District of Columbia enforce smoke-free laws, according to the American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation.
One of the first lawsuits to prevent a ban happened in 1994 when nine restaurants sued Puyallup, Wash., a city of 35,000 at the foot of Mount Rainier. The city council passed an anti-smoking law but voted to repeal it a few weeks before it took effect, they said, to avoid years of costly litigation against the tobacco industry.
"They've just got bottomless pockets and we do not,'' Mayor Mike Deal reportedly explained.
Dozens of times tobacco firms have bankrolled campaigns around the country to block smoking bans or paid for lawsuits after the anti-smoking ordinances pass, said Bronson Frick, of Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights, in Berkeley, Calif.
They sue over pre-emption, arguing that local government doesn't have the authority to pass the law, or say the bans will cause irreparable harm to businesses, a claim Dr. Glantz said is unsubstantiated by research.
"In all but a few incidents, they lose their cases," he said, but their goal is to stall as long as possible.
Reynolds paid for two attorneys to file briefs this week and argue next week for an injunction against Allegheny County.
The two plaintiffs allege the state's 1988 Clean Indoor Air Act pre-empts the county and Chief Executive Dan Onorato from passing a law restricting indoor smoking.
They are two well-established, salt-of-the earth restaurateurs, said Kevin Joyce, owner of The Carlton and president of the Pennsylvania Restaurant Association.
A lawyer from Jones Day, the firm retained for many Reynolds' suits, asked Mr. Joyce if he would sign on as plaintiff. Mr. Joyce, who backs a statewide smoking ban, said he would rather not, but suggested several business owners who might be interested.
On behalf of James G. Mitchell, of the 100-year-old Mitchell's Bar and Restaurant, and John J. Petrolias of the 73-year-old Smithfield Cafe, Jones Day will oppose county officials in a hearing Monday before Common Pleas Judge Michael A. Della Vecchia.
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(So that hearing did take place yesterday. Like I said, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. BTW, the latest I heard is also that the state exemption for casinos WILL also apply here in Allegheny County even if this ban stands.) | |
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Posted: 12/22/2006 2:25:32 PM | Well, thanks to R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company's deep pockets, here in Allegheny County the judge ordered the expected delay today. Here's the short-scoop:
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Judge delays smoking ban in county bars, restaurants
Friday, December 22, 2006
By Mark Belko, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Allegheny County Chief Executive Dan Onorato said today that a judge has issued a temporary injunction against the smoking ban in county bars and restaurants.
The ban was to have gone into effect at the start of the year. But two Downtown restaurants sued to stop enforcement of the ban passed by county council.
Mr. Onorato, during a press conference to announce a new medical examiner, said Common Pleas Judge Michael Della Vecchia granted a temporary injunction against the ban until April, when a full hearing will be held.
Mr. Onorato said the judge's order does not affect the ban in [OTHER] workplaces in the county. | |
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Posted: 12/30/2006 4:34:27 AM | Fresh from Yahoo...
HONG KONG (AFP) - The year 2006 will end in a puff of smoke across Hong Kong when a ban on smoking in bars, restaurants and offices comes into effect -- and the new law has left many fuming.
Tobacco police will be out in force on New Year's Eve, ready to stub out offenders after the clock strikes midnight, as Hong Kong becomes the latest major city to embrace the anti-smoking movement.
But in a place where the fat-cats of finance celebrate mega-deals with cigars over dinner, and the smoky haze of karaoke bars never seems quite bad as the air pollution outside, the drive to go smoke-free has plenty of critics.
"I've been smoking since I was 14 and I'm still alive. How can they say smoking will kill me?" said Lam Kin-shing, a 70-year-old retired construction worker who pledged to ignore the law.
"I think the ban violates my human rights," he said on Friday.
Hong Kong approved the anti-smoking legislation in October and launched a public relations campaign to rally support for the ban, warning of the dangers of second-hand smoke and calling for clean and fresh air. | |
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Posted: 12/30/2006 12:46:26 PM | Hey, groovy! Getting anything done on smoking anywhere in China is major news!!! Of course, one might assume Hong Kong would be a little more progressive than the mainland. Regardless, HAPPY NEW YEAR, WORLD!
And the battle rages in New Jersey regarding casinos. Here's an exerpt from the Fox News (Googled) site:
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Atlantic City Delays Vote on Casino Smoking Ban
Friday, December 29, 2006
ATLANTIC CITY, New Jersey — Atlantic City's casinos are not stubbing out the cigarettes just yet.
The City Council in New Jersey's gambling mecca put off a vote Friday on banning smoking in casinos to give the nightspots more time to get ready.
A new, amended proposal will be voted on Jan. 24 and is expected to pass. It would go into effect April 15; the previous measure would have taken effect in a month.
Anti-smoking groups and casino workers welcomed the ban, while the casino industry warned of legal action.
The ordinance would make Atlantic City the biggest gambling spot in the nation to bar smoking. Las Vegas, Biloxi, Mississippi, and most Indian casinos allow smoking.
Sharon Carfagno, a****ail waitress at Harrah's Atlantic City since the day it opened in 1981, said so many more people light up while gambling that it is as if casino employees are smoking themselves.
"Two other girls I work with failed nicotine tests for life insurance," she said. "And they never smoked."
A year ago, New Jersey banned smoking in most indoor public places, including bars and restaurants, but exempted the powerful casino industry. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2006 10:46:11 PM | Wish they'd ban perfume - there are AT LEAST as many carcinogens in perfume as there are in cigarettes, but you don't see them banning perfume.
I'm still trying to figure out why the taxes on cigarettes keep going up, too. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 10:21:57 AM | | Good Point!! Also, how about people who have bad odour?? I mean inhaling bad odour can't be good for anyone?? Why not ban people out of bars/clubs/restaurants based on how they smell. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 3:06:07 PM | @ross, it's more like ban those that look like the ones that go around smelling like french wh*res (figure of speach, no punt intended on the french, candian). it's just that there are too many men and women wearing perfumes and colognes that just wreak.
@blaze, they keep raising the cigarette tax to get everyone to quit. talk about freedom in our country? huh!!?! we have no freedom here.
here's to the united states government ,,l,, or mlm..............forget it... | |
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Posted: 11/16/2007 11:08:52 PM | I'm a smoker and this offends me completely. Way to generalize an entire group of people because they do something you don't agree with. It's on the same level as homophobia and racism.
I highly doubt that the person you're speaking of intentionally blew smoke in your sons face. Unless he was a mean son of a ****, he probably did it accidentally. Typically, I've found, smokers are considerate with their habit.
Normally, if I'm around children I won't even light a cigarette. I could be fiending for one terribly bad, but if I'm in a public place, I will usually refrain if someone young is around. I know it is a bad habit, albeit one I chose to keep, which I don't think children should be subjected to if we are forced to be in the same small area.
However, if I'm at a diner and I want to drink a pot of coffee with friends and smoke a pack of marlboros, I feel as if I should have every right. Smokers are not vile, dirty people to be treated as second hand citizens. They are normal, everyday men and women who enjoy having a cigarette after a meal, during a concert or at the end of a shitty day.
Also, as far as "ignorance" goes, cigarette butts are biodegradable and will disappear with time. They aren't harmful towards the earth. It's not like every time I out a cigarette on the sidewalk I'm throwing my garbage on the street.
I will continue to smoke in doorways because they are warm, less windy, and shelter from rain. I will smoke in smoking sections or restaurants until the unfortunate day a no-smoking ban is passed. Deal with it. I'm a person too. One that deserves the same freedom as you. | |
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Posted: 11/17/2007 1:40:02 AM | I just now read this thread and wanted to give my 2 cents worth....
In Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, we have a smoking ban anywhere that is a public indoor building....bars, malls, restaurants, work, everywhere. And you want to know something, I find the bar scene alot more friendly and fun. I'm a non-smoker, and smoking hasn't really bothered me. I would have one whenever we go out in the past only because it seems to me that the smoke always goes to the one that's not smoking...which is me mostly unless I light one up.
I like the idea of taking my family to a restaurant and not have to smell smoke while eating my meal... non-smoking areas my a$$...smoke travels anywhere as long as there's space and vents.
When it comes to bars, I will admit that the ban was stupid in the beginning since we're all adults and there's no children to worry about, but for the non-smoker that wants to have a good time must suffer to make smokers happy. What do you think? If your health as a smoker isn't important to you, what makes you think others think the same way as you? Just a thought. | |
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Posted: 11/26/2007 9:02:18 PM |
MRI scans show second-hand smoke damage to lungs
Mon Nov 26, 6:46 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One third of people who breath in high levels of secondhand smoke have damage to their lungs similar to that seen in smokers, doctors reported on Monday.
They used a special kind of magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI, scan to look at the lungs of non-smokers who had high exposure to other people's cigarette smoke and found evidence of the kind of damage that causes emphysema.
"We interpreted those changes as early signs of lung damage, representing very mild forms of emphysema," said Chengbo Wang, a magnetic resonance physicist at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, who led the study.
"Almost one third of nonsmokers who had been exposed to secondhand cigarette smoke for a long time developed these structural changes," Wang added in a statement.
"To our knowledge, this is the first imaging study to find lung damage in non-smokers heavily exposed to secondhand smoke. We hope our work strengthens the efforts of legislators and policymakers to limit public exposure to secondhand smoke."
Wang, who presented his team's findings to a meeting of the Radiological Society of North American in Chicago, said 35 percent of U.S. children live in homes where someone smokes regularly.
The team studied 60 adults between ages 41 and 79, 45 of whom had never smoked. The non-smokers were considered to have high exposure if they had lived with a smoker for at least 10 years, often during childhood.
"It's long been hypothesized that prolonged exposure to secondhand smoke may cause physical damage to the lungs, but previous methods of analyzing lung changes were not sensitive enough to detect it," said Wang.
His team used a technique called long-time-scale, global helium-3 diffusion magnetic resonance imaging.
"With this technique, we are able to assess lung structure on a microscopic level," Wang said.
They found that 57 percent of the smokers and 33 percent of the nonsmokers with high exposure to secondhand smoke had signs of early lung damage as measured by the scan.
In February, U.S. researchers reported that up to 20 percent of women who develop lung cancer have never smoked.
(Reporting by Maggie Fox, editing by Will Dunham and Cynthia Osterman)
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Just thought I'd share the above from Yahoo! News.
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Posted: 12/29/2007 4:06:15 PM | | I can't wait for it to happen. I think your missing the point when you compare smoking bans to murder and rape. I person who light up next to a non-smoker isn't being peaceful just down right rude. If you have no respect for your health so be it, but don't involve someone else!!!!! | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 8:12:05 PM | Here's how I see it. The smoking ban is fair for one major reason - it's called The Americans With Disabilities Act. It's been around for years now. It means that public places need to be accessible to everyone. That's why all restaurants and businesses are required to have ramps, as well as sidewalks.
How does this tie into not smoking? Simple - there are some people who have certain conditions that make it impossible for them to be exposed to second hand smoke. People with severe asthma, chronic bronchitis, or emphysema are beyond being simply annoyed by second hand smoke, they cannot tolerate it. Therefore any place that allows smoking is making the environment there inaccessible to those individuals, and that that is a violation of the Disabilities Act. It's as simple as that.
Smoking is a choice, breathing is not. And providing a non-smoking section doesn't work, because you're still making areas inaccessible to all.
As a bartender, I look forward to the ban. It would be nice not to stink at the end of my shift!! | |
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