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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 4/24/2008 12:05:05 PM | Many people want a statewide indoor smoking ban in PA. They have been trying to for 23 years. Have any of you heard of Bill Godshall? He has a site to urge law makers into the smoking bans and people call PA the noreast ashtray.
In PA I would just eat at a McDonalds or Burger King where it's all non smoking. | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/7/2008 12:08:47 AM |
I wish they would ban smoking in ALL public places in Westmoreland County. The only places that people should be able to smoke is in their homes and in their cars with the windows wound up. I KNOW no one will agree with this.
Well I agree with you JOYCE29! | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/7/2008 12:29:41 AM |
Foolish me, I thought public meant everyone, or do you mean that smokers aren't people, or that they don't have any rights? microchip
Mr MICROCHIP: You have the right to enjoy sex , BUT NOT IN A PUBLIC PLACE! You have the right to be naked, BUT NOT IN A PUBLIC PLACE! You have a right to shit, piss, and spit, BUT NOT IN A PUBLIC PLACE! You have the right to yell "FIRE", BUT NOT IN A PUBLIC PLACE!
Don't you poison huffing cig smokers get it? YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN A PUBLIC PLACE!
Foolish you indeed!! | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/7/2008 12:41:17 AM |
Also, as far as "ignorance" goes, cigarette butts are biodegradable and will disappear with time. They aren't harmful towards the earth. It's not like every time I out a cigarette on the sidewalk I'm throwing my garbage on the street.
omzgpeaches: no they aren't. yes they are. yes you are. | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/7/2008 1:19:52 AM |
50% or more of the price of a cigarette pack (which these days is about $5.00 in PA) goes to taxes. So each time I buy a pack I am paying more than $2.5 in taxes just for the privilege of smoking. Every single time the state needs money they tap onto the price of tobacco. So, we certainly pay more than our share for what we are doing. The least we could have expected is some basic rights to indulge in our habbit for which we are DEFINITELY paying the price. ross8888
I am so damn sick of all of the self-righteous non smokers.. how does that grab you? It's not about SMOKING CIGARETTES! It's about the government telling you what you can and can't do and where you can and can't do it! painfullytruthful
edit: hey wol.............sure, take this country back in time.....instead of blacks going to the back of the bus or blacks not being served in restaurants, or seeing signs posted "no blacks allowed!"....this country should change it to smokers then huh? i'm sorry...years ago the black man/woman won their rights to regain their freedom, why not smokers. now, i'm not prejudice so please don't take it that way but that's the way this country is changing. abraham lincoln freed the slaves....a is only an ignorant person....then look at who is running this country. i'm sorry, after this i might end up being banned from posting but i'm only expressing my voice and standing up for my right. i'm sorry if i used a bad example but it's the truth. ponygirl™
You used a STUPID example ponygirl™ You obviously have no understanding of what 'that word' means. Its' history.
If you were as 'sorry' as you SHOULD be, you would have edited that stupidness OUT of your post. It's NOT the truth. And Honest Abe did NOT 'free the slaves'. Read a history book. Get some cultural awareness.
You are also making a stupid and irrelevant comparison: 'Cig smokers are persecuted, 'just like black people'. That is one of the stupidest, most overused, and incorrectly applied analogies in the USA.
All you cig smokers have the RIGHT to smoke. IN PRIVATE!!
Now, where were you all when they took away the RIGHT to smoke marijuana? IN PRIVATE!!?
NOW look at you cig smokers(!!): "When they came for the Jews, I said nothing, because I was not a Jew..." NOW, who's left to 'protect' you?
So don't start crying NOW about your loss of 'rights', and the high taxes you are paying for your life shortening, physically debilitating habit. The War On Drugs, thanx to R Milhouse (Nix on) NIXON, has driven the cost of a joint to about $5 EACH!
I don't remember cig smokers rising up. Even for the rights of their fellow smokers, in this case. No, they were blissfully suckin' on their 5cent cig 'joints', happy to piss in a bottle knowing the law was on their indolent, self-satisfied, tobacco addicted asses.
go cry to yo' mamas...(' ') | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/7/2008 12:14:39 PM | hmmm, someone that loves picking apart the thread???
i'm not gonna go cryin to my mama since she knows that i will speak my peace.
i didn't lose my rights for smoking, i still smoke outside and in bars. i don't care about people that are ex smokers and are now for non smoking. high taxes aren't paying for my life shortening unless i'm gonna starve or anything of the sort.
i'm the type of girl that would walk right up to a cop and tell him to kiss my a$$ if he tells me to put a cigarette out. if he fines me, i'll take it up and take him on. the country is going to pot and i mean hell in the worse way ever.
if i'm going to an event and it's at a non smoking bar or club i will not go!!! | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/8/2008 7:50:57 AM | This is my opinion on the subject and I know that no opinion is right or wrong . I believe that the government is trying to control our life too much. I dont like being told that I have to wear my seat belt. And the bikers didnt want to be told they had to wear helmets so they changed the law.
I like having the ability to use my mind to make choices about what I do. I think that some bars can be dangerous to my health just by the people who go there so I stay away. If I dont want to be in a smokey place I go to a nonsmoking place or one that has better ventilation.
I am a nonsmoker and have been all my life. Yes I agree that smoke stinks and I hate that my clothes smells when I get home. But thats the price I pay if I chose to go to those places. And yes I still go because I enjoy the company of the people. | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/8/2008 3:10:22 PM |
I believe that the government is trying to control our life too much. the government has been trying to control our lives just as if we're puppets...the bad thing is that us puppets are the ones that put the puppet masters in office. we need to get then the hell out of office and start all over with a clean slate. i was told a few times that this country is due for a new civil war and i see it coming real fast.
i don't agree with the smoking ban in bars and public places since a vast majority of the occupants are the smokers....they lose their business from their smoking customers then most of the bars aren't going to make enough to continue operating their business unless those people buy quarts to go...but then again, who wants to buy quarts of beer when they can always go to the beer distributor and buy cases of the same beer they would be getting in the bars.
i am a smoker and micro knows that if i'm around a non smoker i won't smoke in front of them but would sit away from them or wait outside. if i want to flick a ciggy on the ground oh flippin well.....it keeps the street cleaners busy therefore they still have a job. | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/11/2008 6:32:23 PM | | PA just had the smoking ban passed and it just needs to be signed. Bill Godshall started an organization of anti smoking activists called smoke free Pennsylvania and there is also the Americans for Nonsmokers Rights. | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/11/2008 10:36:12 PM | ummm demolition....that's bullshyt with the non smokers rights and everything else. this government sucks and i'll be the first to say it on the news if need be. the government is using their power to destroy the country that we've been born and raised in. "we the people, for the people..." is nothing but bullshyt too! the government is only out for themselves. since when did anyone actually think that the government thinks of a person as a person? we're nothing but a statistic to them.....a puppet on the strings being controlled by the puppeteer (the government).
the smokers have just as much rights as the non smokers and you can't say anything otherwise. the only difference is now the f*cked up government is taking away a smokers rights and giving the non smokers more rights then us.
any bar or club and i mean anyone that does not allow cigarette smoking should be protested by the people that smoke. i will not go into a non smoking bar or club unless i'm going to an event like i said before. i'll go into a non smoking restaurant with family and friends but once i'm outside i will light up.
i think i should start something for us smokers.......omfg this is a really bad subject for me. | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/12/2008 6:22:17 PM | Demo my man I don't think she cares if you block smokers. How would she look if she is blocked too much clean air...The thing I want to know is how TJam beat the 2 -10 rule??????. Personal responsibility if you don't want to be around smoke don't go to places were we are. I won't go and spend my money where I can't smoke....You go CG
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/13/2008 9:15:59 AM | | You know I smoke......and I respect people that dont smoke.......But dont come in a bar or resturant where I am already there and seated and sit down beside me and start ****ing because I am smoking beside you. If I go to your house and you dont smoke.....I respect that......I leave my cigs in the car ....But most of these people that **** about us smokers.......probably can roll a dam good joint.........Honestly I dont smoke walking down the street either, my mom will still kick my ass for that.....and she smokes. ....... | |
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| Philadelphia Smoking Ban in Bars and Clubs Posted: 6/18/2008 10:38:01 AM | Sorry Microchip, I misunderstood you somehow, among all these stupid comments trying to support smoking in a public place. Maybe this first post by you threw me, but I see where you are coming from:
Foolish me, I thought public meant everyone, or do you mean that smokers aren't people, or that they don't have any rights? microchip
As far as smoking in public places... the government is not trying to regulate what goes on in private places. You can smoke all you want in your house, and in your car, but believe it or not, restaurants and bars are not private places. People come off the street and go into those places to spend money. That makes them public places, and they therefore are subject to the rules and laws that guide the general public. microchip
TJamWeedMan,
Don't you poison huffing cig smokers get it? YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN A PUBLIC PLACE! Foolish you indeed!!
Why are YOU telling ME? I don't smoke! microchip | |
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