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|why are you hanunting me with your negative comments...if i throw a bible will you go fetch..better yet, just go away...:P|
Posted: 3/24/2005 8:29:29 PM
his comments wernt negative at all. Ya just blew all crediblity with me. Check yerself about your delusions of persecution before you think at all about influencing your kid. If there was a reason for adoption.....
Anyway, I suppose now your going to try and hex me or something else. scary.
Dont worry about teaching your kid. This is likely a phase you will grow out of in a few months. Sigh.
Posted: 3/24/2005 8:29:41 PM
|alrighttyy then... Have a happy life! Bye|
--Thanks socal, I think her kid will be teaching her in a few years. I'm done with this thread. Ciao peeps.
Posted: 3/24/2005 8:34:12 PM
sometimes i think the happybunnypaganswhoneedtobeattackedbytheevilchristians are about as bad as the biblebangingimrightandifyoudontthinksojesusissendingyourasstohellwithmycompliments types. Nice to see someone with a cool head.
Posted: 3/24/2005 8:38:44 PM
|omg... that's an awesome way to post! I think i'm gonna post like that for a straight week. See how many peeps we can piss off, hehe:-)|
Posted: 3/24/2005 8:40:00 PM
|I see your http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wiccan+parents&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8|
And raise you a http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=wiccan+parents&btnG=Google+Search
Posted: 3/24/2005 8:43:41 PM
Posted: 3/24/2005 9:06:48 PM
|I like multisyllabalic words, even if i have to make them up.|
Posted: 3/24/2005 9:10:32 PM
|maybe you guys didnt read the hwole post, but that guy has been negative and mean since i started this thread, hes been sractsic and ive tried laughing it off, but it doesnt work, i thinks its pretty double standard and certianly childish to make fun of someone and say the things you guys have said..you know who you are, and this is a religion discussion, im sorry if i offended your delciate sensablities by posting a thread that you object too, especially since your the only ones on the site and no one else is allowd to have an opion or address anything without your permission. next time i want to post a thread ill be sure to ask you if it doesnt offend your moral or religious sensablities. you kinda hurt my feelings, not that you seem like the kind of people who care. |
not everyone is like that though, ive had some really great advice, and met some veryw onderful people, but i can get meaness and crulty anywahere, i dont have to shop the net for it. and yes, i am very lonley and yes, i do only have 1o month old to "amuse" myself with, i thought that was the whole point to this site.to meet others like myself. guess i was wrong.
Posted: 3/24/2005 9:19:00 PM
|Agree'd, all religion is equally valid in respect to eachother.|
Posted: 3/24/2005 10:54:31 PM
It's just a story. He can tell the difference between fact and fiction and doesn't read into the occult side of Harry Potter. It's a shame that he has a better understanding of that than do many adult Christains who regarded it as dangerous.
Ok, this is my post that put you over the edge... Read it and tell me how I was being mean and hurtful.
I was referring to these weirdos who think Harry Potter, and Sponge Bob are twisted and want to protect their kids from them. It wasn't an attack on you.
Craww started pestering ya, and I kindly asked him not to.
Not really a sore subject... Like the saying goes, "There's no such thing as a stupid question." I think when it comes to kids, even when they're not your own, people are protective. We hear a lot of horrible stories, and wonder how they happen. There's no shame in not being a perfect mother to your child right off the bat. But I see your concern for her by asking that question of others, rather than just doing it. So the idea isn't real popular and maybe for good reason. But it helped to talk about it first. Gave you the chance to hear other's views and I didn't see anyone taking your head off for it. I think it was a good question for that very reason.
Here's another one of my hurtful posts...I'm such a **stard
Posted: 3/25/2005 2:29:55 AM
|hey poetic |
Don't let these guys get yah down you know that in your heart your doing what you feel best for your daughter. Trust your craft and it will trust you back!
Some will say that we are witches or that we are a cult or even devil whorshipers but you see Wicca is about strength have the strength to let it go. Always remember that while they whorship their god.... We live through ours they are a part of us.
Blessed be my sister
Posted: 3/25/2005 2:39:52 AM
yes, i have more faith in this than anything else i have ever believed in...i have my own reasons
i study more witchcraft than the bible...doesn't mean i don't belive in God..they say you can't have two seperate beliefs and combine them together into one, and i say fuuuuk that shit....i believe what i want to believe...so stick that in a pie with atomic bombs and eat it!!! lol
Posted: 3/25/2005 3:30:17 AM
|have you got some anger issues at the moment Madelaina?? lol i have read a few of your posts tonite and you dont seem overly cheery - especially with the religious stuff. let me put my hand on your forehead *let her be healed and free from the rage demon. come forth and leave her body* lol|
i love ya baby. like a girl with fire and attitude. keep up the good work!
Posted: 3/25/2005 11:53:18 AM
|If I ever was to have a child of my own I would not force any religion on it., I would raise it according to my values as a wiccan but I wouldn't try to make a wiccan out of the child. I think children are capable of finding their own truth at some point. |
Its important to guide children into doing the right things and to support them no matter what religion they decide they belong to.
I would be ok if my child would at some point convert to christianity or buddhism whatever, in essence there is no difference., religion is the mold for an universal truth.
Posted: 3/25/2005 12:08:13 PM
|omg., Poetic, you are my age, what are you even doing what a kid already? |
as wonderful as she might be to have, you and me., we are kids ourselves.
Posted: 3/25/2005 5:43:53 PM
|lol kikoro, i didnt do it on prupose, no matter what every one around me thinks. i was just so stupid i thought..hmmmm....your pulling out right.....he didnt like comdoms..(sorry if thats too vuglar.) he is a very bad drug addict so im very lucky alli was all i got. when i found out he had already started messing with a 15 year old gothic girl. i dont like gothic girls too much. i dont like anyone too much lol. i generally hate people. i love my kid,my plants..which died by the way....the plants not the kid lol. i may only be 20, turned 20 two months ago. but i feel lik eive already lived my life and now all there is to do is write a book about it. |
i guess i should thank you steve and craww, i havent been angry at anyone except brad(my ex) in a very very very long time. I had forgotten what it felt like to just be mad and not have a murdous sick feeling to go with it. I read a story once about how everyone in the world got to kill one person in there life and not get in trouble for it. It turned out bad cause not only did half the population die out, but people were killing people for cutting them off on the orad, for being annoying in public ect, so everyone became recluses. it was a really great story, but sometimes i feel it would be wonderful to have just one person to kill....and thats not good, cause your not suppose to wish harm on anyone....(I dont mean steve or craw lol, i mean my ex) I wonder though... about the christian god, becase thou shalt no murder, lie, ya know the ten commandments, they seem so shallow. the things we do to ourselves and the things we allow other people to do to us, those are the greatest sins we commit. The stuff that haunts us in the night and sits at the end of of the bed when we dream....
wow....long post sorry, but its so sad that these forums have become my best friends lol...
Posted: 3/26/2005 2:02:02 AM
Thought it would be a story like that, nobody in her right mind would willingly get a baby at this age, but I think that you are very curageous and that you are doing a great job. Teach her respect and she will respect you and (y)our religion when she grows up.,
I am like a month older than you., aint that funny.
|single mom with wiccan beliefs|
Posted: 4/1/2005 10:30:58 PM
|practice whatever religious beliefs you like...LIVE within the balance of the virtues simply period|
Posted: 4/5/2005 1:27:39 PM
|Dreamer :) concerning the issue of your child, I will suggest bringing her up with the knowledge of Wicca but the freedom to choose what path she will, let her know the beauty that is Wicca, she will decide what path she wants to start on :) and the best thing that you can do is support that. |
As for the father and being into dark magick, I would keep her as far away from that as possible, that is the absolute LAST thing that you need to subject a child to, especially one that young.
Other than that the only thing that I can suggest is have fun! you have a daughter who is a blessing from the Great Mother, enjoy her!
Good Luck :)
|single mom with wiccan beliefs|
Posted: 5/4/2005 11:35:45 AM
|Fonz_001 wrote: "I believe that you should allow her to choose when it comes her time, but until then you should allow her to see the differences between religions, explain to her why we believe what we believe, and explain to her what the dark arts are and also give her a chance to see the blessings that are given to the blind christians, if she is shown all that is on the table her pure heart will make the right path that is set before her..."|
I cannot agree with this more Fonz :)
Friends of mine who have children, just simply kept going as normal when their children were born. Paganism was and is a very important part of their lives, and they weren't/aren't going to change that because they now have children. They still go to circle and bring the kids with them, they still go to networking events that allow kids and avoid the ones that don't (at least until the kids are older). I don't see a problem with that at all because fostering a stong spiritual connections in children is very important for them.
One thing that all of my "parent" friends have said is that they are going to, is as the children get older, expose them to as many different belief systems as possible, so that they can get a real idea of the differences and similarities between the different paths, and are able to make informed decisions when it comes time to choose their own way. Again, I think this a wonderful thing to do.
Poeticdreamer, a book that I would strongly recommend is "Circle Round - Raising Children in Goddess Traditions" by Starhawk and a couple of other contributors who I can't remember off hand. Even though I don't have kids, I have this book myself and love it. It may prove helpful for you :)
Posted: 5/18/2005 11:39:09 PM
|when my kids were babies and toddlers, they loved "David the Gnome". It was a sweet, well made cartoon show which also advocated the values I wanted to pass on to my children as a Wiccan mom. Not that the show itself is necessarily Wiccan, but the values it teaches reflect my own, and I like that. And kids seem to respond to cartoons and storybooks more than they do to anything else. The lessons stuck, and, though as adolescents, Wiccan kids seem to be bigger pains in the tuckus than cowan kids, occasionally, unexpectedly, my kids will show in their actions and interpersonal relationships that they never forgot what they learned as toddlers. There are "David the Gnome" videos and books you can pick up for your baby, and you'll feel good about showing and reading them, and allowing your child to watch alone. You'll be surprised at how deeply ingrained these values become in your child!|
Posted: 5/18/2005 11:49:26 PM
|As for believing, beliefs, etc.;|
As a Witch, there are things I believe in, such as Santa Clause, the (clucking) Easter Bunny, and a living Jim Morrison. Then, there are things I know, such as the validity of Karmic law, the oneness of all that is, and that there is more to life and the universe than dreamed of in Horatio's (or anyone else's) philosophy. There's a big difference in believing in something, and knowing what's true and what's b*******t, which also has its place in the grand scheme of things. B******t, in it's own wonderful way, makes the world go 'round!
|single mom with wiccan beliefs|
Posted: 5/19/2005 4:34:51 AM
|howdy, i was brought up Wiccan and my advise is do what your heart tells you is right. I wouldn't push anything against anyone without their consent.|
|single mom with wiccan beliefs|
Posted: 5/30/2005 4:46:33 AM
|Sweety I have a 3 year old son named Cody,he was Wiccaned at birth,as I was my mom always practiced (makeing potions,simple spells,etc.) right infront of os but was always very carefull to never preach! When I recived my year and a day traing in witchcraft,I was 12 (after my first day of womanhood) I was dedicated at 13, it was completely my decicion, and thats is how I intend to work it for my son too,no pressure,always let him know that Ill be behind him in what ever choices he makes,if he is to fallow his parents path then so be it,if he's meant to find his own,then more power to him.....|