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 ultraJ

Joined: 11/29/2006
Msg: 26
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Posted: 6/23/2007 9:02:48 AM
Now, are you really 5 feet or 4'11"? Don't lie

You know, the last post prior to yours was over 2 months ago, baseball had just started and we all thought the Cubs and Sox would be in the World Series
 Karrpilot

Joined: 1/26/2007
Msg: 27
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Posted: 6/23/2007 7:29:47 PM
Not me. I never thought either team would be in the world series. Maybe as spectators.
 RebaBlue81

Joined: 6/6/2007
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Posted: 6/26/2007 1:37:01 PM
Seriously, according to the family physician, I am 60.5 inches....5 feet is the truth! LOL

What do the stupid Cubs and Sox have to do with what I posted?

 Karrpilot

Joined: 1/26/2007
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Posted: 6/26/2007 3:29:03 PM
Stupid Cubs and Sox? I guess no one will be asking you to any games. Lighten up. We were just having some fun.
 RebaBlue81

Joined: 6/6/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2007 11:18:10 AM
I wasn't meaning that in an "angry" way. I'm just not a fan of Chicago teams. Cubs do rank as my second favorite team....
 Karrpilot

Joined: 1/26/2007
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Posted: 6/29/2007 7:18:13 PM
Well, if the White Sox are your first favorite team, all is forgiven. Besides, everyone knows what Cubs stands for. Cancel Us By September.
 Passiontly_Woman

Joined: 2/11/2007
Msg: 32
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Posted: 7/2/2007 2:36:41 PM
You tell them ignorant females to not discriminate that your DNA was arranged differently than a tall mans. LOL (and in my experience....shorter = nice sized packaged)
 FairVerona

Joined: 10/1/2007
Msg: 33
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Posted: 5/11/2008 7:04:00 PM
I absolutley adore short men and would much rather have a man in my life that is short than tall- I prefer him to be 5'4 - to 5'7 and if he has a husky bulid that is even better.- So if any of u short guys are getting overlooked, look no further.
 LadyWindRidr

Joined: 4/22/2006
Msg: 34
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Posted: 5/11/2008 10:17:47 PM
I had a relationship with a guy who was alot shorter than me. I am 5'6", and he was around 5' or less. The only trouble we had with the difference in height was when we slow danced, his cowboy hat would keep hitting me in the forhead. We did finally work that one out. I also went out with another guy who was even shorter than the other. And that saying about the shoe size, hand size, or height is NOT true. I have seen from one extreme to the other with these two guys.
It doesn't matter to me how tall or short a guy is for me to be interested.
 Felinity

Joined: 9/29/2007
Msg: 35
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Posted: 5/19/2008 4:39:08 AM
I am tall (almost 5'10" without shoes) and prefer to date men my own height, or taller. Checking a man's height on his profile has done me no good because almost every man I've met on this site is shorter than his stated height. It may be by only an inch, but sometimes two or three.

I'd sure like to meet a man who doesn't feel the need to exaggerate. Like I'm not going to notice when he states he's 6' tall on his profile and I have to look down to gaze into his eyes?? My doctor's office measures my height, so I know mine is accurate. Older men... maybe you've shrunk a bit since you were 18... time to measure again??
 Jonathan Doeman

Joined: 5/18/2007
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Posted: 5/19/2008 6:56:03 PM
^^^

Is height THAT important to you that you want them to get re-measured because they might be a couple of inches shorter than they assumed they were?
 Lisanne1971

Joined: 5/21/2008
Msg: 37
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Posted: 5/30/2008 11:35:53 PM
Well, I usually don't care to date men unless they are taller than I am. It is not the height so much that bothers me, it is really overall size. I've met some shorter men who had fabulous bodies and georgous faces so that is not it. I'm short myself, but I'm a curvy girl. The main issue for me is that I like a man who is fit, but who feels "larger" than I am. I may be curvy, but I am very very fit. I can ride 20 miles on the bike or hike 15 at the drop of a hat. Since I don't care for men who are overweight, but I like larger men, that means larger in frame which means taller. I just feel better when I'm with a man who is bigger than I am. It seems natural. Woman smaller and Man bigger. So for me it is relative. If I were 4'8" I'd probably dig guys 5'4" or taller. But since I'm 5'2" I typically like guys who are 5'8" or taller. It isn't scientific. It is really "How do I feel when I'm with a man." And that isn't a matter of prejudice. It is simply what you are attracted to and no one can help that.

The short guy, small feet, small hand, small **** thing is rediculous. Any woman who has an ounce of sense knows that isn't true. And any man worth his salt knows that isn't what makes a woman most happy anyway. That is a guy issue. Just like they say women dress to impress other women, men discuss size amongst themselves for the same reason.

I've also noticed that many short men work very hard to "compensate" by being very phsyically fit, very nice, or very successful. All those things are great, but I really hate to see that "over compensation" thing. Just relax and be who you are. And eventually you will find yourself in a relationship with someone who is looking for someone like you exactly as you are.

Short/tall/curvy/thin there is no right or wrong. It is just preferences.

Lisanne
 drlolipop

Joined: 6/11/2004
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Posted: 5/31/2008 2:48:24 PM
This is an area where women, including the women on this message board, compulsively lie through their teeth.

They say that "height is not important", or "as long as the guy is taller than me that is ok".....but in the real world, women disproportionately date men 6' or taller and almost completely ignore men under 5'9" even though the average height in the U.S. is only slightly over 5'10".

Ladies, be honest to us and be honest to yourselves. Society has led you to believe taller men are more desirable and more attractive. The media has led you to believe taller men are more desirable and attractive. You date tall men even when you know they are oftensimtes bad for you and oftentimes abusive. For most of you, dating tall men is like a really bad crack habit you know you should quit but don't have the strength to quit.

What is annoyingly hypocritical and contradictory is that women don't want to be judged on their weight (something they almost always have control over), but they still want to reserve the right to judge men on their height (something men have no control over). Obviously something is very wrong with this picture.

Until women can overcome all the societal and media brainwashing and stop worshipping looks, money, height, possessions, confidence, and "attitude", they will continue to find themselves in incredibly bad abusive and adulterous relationships and marriages with no foundation of love and caring, the 2 people in the relationship only having been drawn to one another based on the most superficial criteria imaginable.
 drlolipop

Joined: 6/11/2004
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Posted: 5/31/2008 2:54:36 PM
Oh, and to Felinity above, the reason men lie about their height is because you ladies freaking obsess over men's heightso much. You seem more obsessed with the INCREDIBLE DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY that must exist in men who are 6 feet tall versus men who are 5'9" and this concern completely causes women to neglect to ask the genuinely important questions like "does he have a criminal record?", "is he already married and not telling me?", and "is this guy secretly bisexual or gay?".

Putting emphasis on a man's height is just plain childish and asinine, end of story. As far as I'm concerned, women who care about that stuff deserve to get lied to and disappointed.
 Felinity

Joined: 9/29/2007
Msg: 40
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:47:54 PM
So, according to drlolipop's logic, it's ok for women to lie all they want about their weight, too, simply because so many men obsess so much about women being thin with a nice figure.

I obsess about people's HONESTY, not their height. If seomone's going to lie about stuff that can easily be seen as a lie, what else do they lie about? It makes me wonder.

The bottom line is that we all have personal preferences as to looks in another person, and we are all entitled to them. I would never even think of dating a man, short or tall, who believed otherwise. I really am getting tired of being put down on these forums by men who don't think I have a right to look for a man my own height.
 Jonathan Doeman

Joined: 5/18/2007
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Posted: 6/4/2008 5:14:00 PM

So, according to drlolipop's logic, it's ok for women to lie all they want about their weight, too, simply because so many men obsess so much about women being thin with a nice figure.


Yes.

In fact, the dating sites make it very easy for women to lie about their weight by simply allowing them to report it as a vague euphemism, instead of a mathematical measurement. Don't you find it odd that weight is allowed to be posted as "thin, athletic, average, or BBW" while height has to be reported as a mathematically precise measurement? Why can't men avoid putting down their actually height (as women avoid posting their actual weight) through vague euphemisms like: "lofty, tall, average, mezzanine, and compact"?

So yes, it's O.K. for a woman to lie about her weight, but she doesn't need to because she never had to post her exact weight in the first place. Maybe less men would lie about their height if they didn't have to post a specific measurement.


I obsess about people's HONESTY, not their height.


you shouldn't obsess about anything. It's unhealthy.


I really am getting tired of being put down on these forums by men who don't think I have a right to look for a man my own height.


I thought you were looking for a man of your own honesty? What's height got to do with it?

 Felinity

Joined: 9/29/2007
Msg: 42
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Posted: 6/6/2008 5:18:43 PM
I agree with you 100%, Jonathan, I think everyone should put down their weight as it is on the scale and be honest about it.

Maybe if you were hurt by dishonest people, you'd think about it more too.

As to your asking what height has to do with honesty... believe it or not, Jonathan, people can look for more than one thing in another person! LOL ( I expect next that I'll be accused of asking for too much because I mentioned TWO things LOL)
 xeotide

Joined: 10/25/2007
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Posted: 6/8/2008 7:04:19 PM
Hmm... I've been rejected at least a half dozen times online for being 'too tall'... probably more in person, just that it doesn't get said.

What does that mean? I can only guess... in certain online dating forums there aren't any profiles... I would get one line replies of 'how tall are you?' I would answer and then get silence or a rejection saying I was too tall. Maybe I wouldn't go well with her hat or something :)
 LifeIsShortSoBePositive

Joined: 6/12/2008
Msg: 44
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Posted: 6/15/2008 6:35:35 PM
I had been out recently and had this very conversation. The problem is the insecure short guys post up a height that is not true. I have a friend who I won't name who says he is 5'9" on his profile. I am 5'7" and I am taller than him! Who is he trying to kid!! So.. it ruins it for the honest men. I am 5'7", and with shoes I am 5'8". So I put in 5'7", but I hear "you're too short" because mostly of their past experiences with meeting men that say 5'7" and they meet them and they are 2 feet tall (LOL!)

People that know me in person are always like "you're 5'7"? No you are not!" I say this - "Objects in mirror are shorter than they appear" ! So it's also about how you present yourself. Your posture, your width (hey I have wide shoulders, thank you lateral raises at the gym!) and all that.

So.. it's a bummer. Too many men lie about their height, or can't stand straight and ruin it for the rest of us.

On the other hand, I won't date women taller than me. 5'7" is my absolute limit but then I think about heels and it's just not fair. I like to be able to hold someone in my arms completely and feel like I can protect them and pick them up, etc. So the shorter you are, the greater your chances!

So guys... don't date women taller than you. It looks weird :-) And stop lying, get a tape measure, shoes off, stand straight against a wall and have someone measure from head to toe! Not hair to toe!
 Jonathan Doeman

Joined: 5/18/2007
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Posted: 6/15/2008 8:06:37 PM

I had been out recently and had this very conversation. The problem is the insecure short guys post up a height that is not true. I have a friend who I won't name who says he is 5'9" on his profile. I am 5'7" and I am taller than him! Who is he trying to kid!! So.. it ruins it for the honest men.


Ruins it for the honest men? Would you want to be with a woman who is so shallow that she rejects you for being 5'7" because she thought you were actually 5'6"? It seems like only a shallow guy would want a woman who thinks like this anyway.


On the other hand, I won't date women taller than me. 5'7" is my absolute limit but then I think about heels and it's just not fair. I like to be able to hold someone in my arms completely and feel like I can protect them and pick them up, etc. So the shorter you are, the greater your chances!


Oh....

Nevermind.

 LifeIsShortSoBePositive

Joined: 6/12/2008
Msg: 46
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Posted: 6/16/2008 10:50:38 AM
It is not being shallow, it is a personal preference.

In regard to what you were saying "rejects you for being 5'7" because she THOUGHT you were actually 5'6" " That is completely different. In guy terms:

You buy a sports car, it's advertised at 350HP. Turns out it only has 340HP.
(this would be you saying you are 5'7" and turns out you are shorter...)

You buy a sports car, it's advertised at 350HP. Turns out it has 360HP and it was underrated!
(this would be you saying you were 5'7" and turns out you are 5'8")


A woman isn't going to reject you for being an inch or two taller than advertised. If anything, it is a "super magic bonus" as I would put it lol

Woman rejecting a guy for being taller than advertised: 0%
Woman rejecting a guy for being shorter than advertised: 99.9%

I'm not sure how you think based on your comments, so I will just assume you had a simple misunderstanding good day!

Mike
 Jonathan Doeman

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Posted: 6/16/2008 4:57:58 PM
^^^

No misunderstanding, Mike.

Answer me this one question.

I'm a hair taller than 5'10"....does that make me better than you? Does it mean that I'm a 350HP car and you're a 320HP?

You don't think that's shallow? That's the definition of shallow.

Human beings are not cars. People are more complex than the number of inches their heads are above the ground. And to dismiss a person completely because they are 5'7" instead of 5'8" is PROFOUNDLY shallow. You can use the term "personal preference" all you want, but such thinking obviously stems from a shallow world-view.

cheers
 LifeIsShortSoBePositive

Joined: 6/12/2008
Msg: 48
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Posted: 6/17/2008 8:35:00 AM
Wow, you are completely misunderstanding me. It has nothing to do with my height versus another height. It has to do with someone saying they are a specific height and they are are SHORTER which is a LIE. This conversation is terminated, I'm not here to fight. Good luck.
 msiravo

Joined: 11/20/2007
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Posted: 6/17/2008 1:14:39 PM
I have to agree with Mike on this one. If I meet a guy who claims to be 5'7" and really is 5'3" then I do have a problem with that on several points. One, as a woman, I do want a man who is at least my height or taller (as I like wearing heels). Two, if you lie about something as simple as your height, what else are you lying about!
Michelle
 Jonathan Doeman

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Posted: 6/17/2008 4:54:45 PM

Two, if you lie about something as simple as your height, what else are you lying about!


Something as simple as height? You just said that you'd reject a guy based on his height. It sounds like height is more important than you give it credit for. So a guy could lie about height (something very important) and still be truthful about less important things.

In fact, if you were a very short guy, it would make sense to lie about your height.

But anyway, I wasn't disagreeing with Mike's point. I was disagreeing with his logic. The whole part about comparing a shorter man to a 250HP truck and a tall man to a 300HP truck. That sort of thinking is nonsense and the foundation of why women use height restrictions.

cheers
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