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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/3/2006 9:10:53 AM | Women over 40 with long hair are not necessarily attempting to hold onto their youth. I just hit the big 5-0 this year, and all my life, my mother kept my hair cut off short because it was thick and I was extremely tender headed and hated for her to brush or comb it. I've had it long now for over ten years, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I made the mistake of going to one of those chain salons for a trim (when my hair was all the way to my waist), and I told the girl not to cut the back (at the time, I wore the top short, the back long [yeah, a mullet]), and before I even knew what was happening, she had cut over 4 inches off the back of my hair! I was livid, and refused to pay her, even threatened to sue her. I have bleached it blonde for many years, but it was too harsh on my hair, so now I keep it kind of dark with highlights, and I like it that way. I don't do it for anybody but me. I wear it down; I wear it up, and I even wear it under a ball cap occasionally! When it's short, it sticks out every where, so long is best for me. It's still thick, even though it doesn't look it, so it surprises people when they think it's thin, only to put their fingers in it and find out it's not! I'd rather wear a cap or a ponytail than have my hair sticking out and up. It's not an age thing, it's a personal preference thing. Plus, I love the way it flows around when I'm on the dance floor!!! | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 9:59:04 AM | See, here's the deal:
Wimmin have had long hair for a a handful of millenia. Its been in style, among all cultures, for a long, long time. In fact, to cut off long tresses was often a sign of disgrace or intense grief in some civilizations. Its been long considered a basic attribute of female beauty.
The wearing of hair "up", a sign of maturity or marriage availability in many cultures, approximates short short; its adaptation probably has functional origins. Its simply easier to do chores when one's hair is bound and kept out of the face.
This historic pattern changed, with the maturing of the industrial revolution, in the early part of the 20th C. At first, it was revolutionary, embraced by the wealthy leisure class as "modern" (for obvious reasons), while being rejected among the conservative populace as daring - and, it removed emphasis on hair and shifted it to facial features. With it, came a freeing of the body (emerging unbound as well, from restraining and unhealthy corsets that malformed the body and deterred correct breathing and digestion), and concurrent changes in clothing styles. In the 30s and 40s, practical aspects of short hair gained popularity among the more conservative (and now predominant) middle and lower economic strata. Indeed, during the depression, when women first made their real mark in the workforce, short hair became a necessity.
Now the body and face of women came forward, with hemlines shortening at about the same rate of hair length. Until we hit mid-century. Short, gamine hair styles (first notedi in the 1920s) that challenged long held doctrine regarding standards of female beauty) were *still daring*, but jaw-length / shoulder length styles became accepted norms within the conservative middle classes.
As cultural shifts progressed in the last half of the 20th century, very short hair, at first associated with counter-culture movements (including the gay/lesbian bid for equality), once again challenged conservative opionion on the definition of female beauty, and what constitutes it as a metric of female beauty.
Now, in the early years of the 21st C, very short cropped hair is acceptable, either on young women, those in their middle years, and even among the elderly. Its now no longer held to be a sign of sexual identity. Instead, its entered the maintstream, once again - in terms of practicality. Those of us who have had long hair for many years, and now enjoy having short-hair, do so because we are comfortable with who we are, in terms of gender and appearance, and because its very easy to manage - and you can always grow it longer to suit appearance and time constraints, or to adhere to rapidly shifting norms of 'popular' hair styles.
Long hair on women is still accepted as a accoutrement of beauty, but it no longer defines either femininity nor beauty.
Hair length, like skirt length, has become a matter of personal preference, utility, and, in some cases, a sign of indifference to binding standards of what actually defines beauty versus social/cultural dictates.
(we are finally seeing this concept emerge, as well, in the first glimmers of rejection of the skinny model ideal for body type; in its place, will emerge a more healthy adaptable preference for fitness)
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/3/2006 1:15:08 PM | | I had very long hair until I was in my late 20's and had babies that loved to pull on it. For the past 20 or so years, I grow it long, then cut it short. I like both for different reasons but I only grow it or cut to suit myself. | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/3/2006 2:47:51 PM | Hey, all:
Well, gee, given this:
Keep in mind that long hair can be a pain in the a** and takes daily upkeep (= x amount of time). Guys that want a woman to have long hair should have to deal with it themselves every day for a month. Then the guys can decide if the washing, conditioning, blowdrying, curling, coloring, or whatever else a woman does to her locks, is really worth the trouble to keep their own fantasy alive. we men would have to be selfish pigs to say to women 'ah, no, I like your hair long!'
How much more can you prejudice a response? In light of this, the only safe, sympathetic response would have to be 'oh, buzz cut it--or shave it!'
'Don't you like what I did for you, honey? It took months to finish!!'
You need to make up your own mind about this, and don't try to win approval from someone under duress. If you genuinely approve yourself, that will be obvious to others, and personally it is much more appealing than seeking approval.
Sombient: very good!
David
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/3/2006 3:25:12 PM | I'm 45 and growing longer and longer, lol. Maybe when I'm 60, I'll go back to short and sassy, but for now, I'm growing it wild and wavy!
We do the same things to long hair that we do to short; it just takes a bit longer. I think length of hair has everything to do with facial shape, not age. | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 4:44:17 PM | | I cut my hair when I get to the point that I feel like I can't stand it any longer. My mom loves it, because she thinks there is an age when you shouldn't wear your hair long, shouldn't wear a bikini, etc. (Man, she'd freak if she'd seen the picture of me about four years ago!) Anyway, as you can tell from my picture, I let it grow back out. It's easier this way. Short hair, for me, is much harder to style because my hair has so much natural curl in it. I keep mine just at or below the shoulders most of the time....not way down on my back anymore. | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 8:45:55 PM | When I was in my twenties, I had my hair so long I could wear my "P" coat over it to keep me warm and it hung out beyond the hem of my coat almost to my knees. Then I cut it....
Now, I'm fifty five and its down to my waist. I love the way it feels. It floats and swings and feels sensual to me. Sometimes its up sometimes its down. I plan on being a little old lady with pig tails. | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/3/2006 11:26:52 PM | OP said:
Keep in mind that long hair can be a pain in the a** and takes daily upkeep (= x amount of time). Guys that want a woman to have long hair should have to deal with it themselves every day for a month. Then the guys can decide if the washing, conditioning, blowdrying, curling, coloring, or whatever else a woman does to her locks, is really worth the trouble to keep their own fantasy alive.
SOTexMan said:
we men would have to be selfish pigs to say to women 'ah, no, I like your hair long!'
How much more can you prejudice a response? In light of this, the only safe, sympathetic response would have to be 'oh, buzz cut it--or shave it!'
The point I was trying to make is that so many men just want to run their fingers through their woman's hair, and then get irritated because the woman is taking too long to get ready to go out. Washing, drying, curling, primping...it can be time consuming and tedious for those impatient men to wait for the end result. (not that there are any of THOSE here on POF)
But if a woman takes the perogative to cut her hair shorter *for herself*, then the guys typically go ballistic (maybe at first) and say that the woman has a "boy cut," or she must not love HIM because she knows how much he loves her hair, blah blah blah.
I've been to the salon before and had about 4-6 inches cut off, and my bf complained about "his" loss. WTF??? My answer would be - grow your own long hair. Mine is mine alone. I only permit you play in it. 
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/4/2006 1:27:20 AM | this is my first post and i can't resist---batterbatterbatter-up girls--what is the dilemma? WAY!--let me qualify that i have am celebate for 7.2 years (God) doing a great job getting myself my hair is 4 inches longer than my picture.....siily girls!!even observing from the outfield there is no dilemma--- the few MEN who gets what HE will always want long hair...a fresh optomistic attittude ongoing smile with a profession whether professional or not....I am coming up on 50-ish and even though i hate that!--chonology simply not enough bloody time...
God says in the Good Book that if but only incline our ear to Him He will multiply our years....i am down with that...smile...
HUMBLY i say that 50 is realy 30-ish!!!---Goldie Hawn is 60!--Cheryle Tiegs is 55!---i know surgery...
no excuse...women today have tons of beauty products that WORK to enhance their naturel good looks...yep believe it girls it is a true story....a genuine smile long hair and progressive employment will CATCH every time....sunny how that is so simple...so naturel....now i have no idea what gets the corporate WANNA BE weekend.warrior...dont care never have...my Mr. Macho makes a decent living with his mindful brute...then comes home and does me with hishands full of my hair while i am bucking hime 
oh and ps girls--all the REAL MEN PROVIDERS and LEADERS of their LOVED ONES ar only left in Australia....so no more complaining or dreary attitudes! | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/4/2006 7:13:52 AM | Hmm...my mother wanted me to cut my hair when I reached the ripe ole' age of 40 as my hair was waist length at the time. So, I cut it...exactly 2 and 3/4 inches! I think that a woman should wear her hair any length that feels comfortable to her. As long as it's clean and well-trimmed..a woman's hair, (long or short) can be beautiful at ANY age! Now that I've reached 48, my mother only harps on my choice of shoes nowadays.lol..(I'm in flip flops almost 24/7.)
Sans | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/4/2006 7:35:53 AM | | It's like the bigger boobie thing whatever makes YOU feel good is what is right. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 7:58:01 AM | When this picture was taken last Easter Sunday my hair was to the top of my collar and pulled back which isn't how I normally wear it. But, I was cooking dinner and wanted it back and out of my face. The previous week, I had just been convinced by a hairdresser to cut it to this length, just at the collar. I'm no longer going to this hairdresser and my hair is growing as I speak.
How many times do we listen to other's opinions instead of doing & having what we want? ( incl. our hair length) I love my hair long and can't wait for it to get to the length it used to be.
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/4/2006 7:58:42 AM | Hey, all:
Hey, TexanAZ:
The point I was trying to make is that so many men just want to run their fingers through their woman's hair, and then get irritated because the woman is taking too long to get ready to go out. Washing, drying, curling, primping...it can be time consuming and tedious for those impatient men to wait for the end result. (not that there are any of THOSE here on POF)
But if a woman takes the perogative to cut her hair shorter *for herself*, then the guys typically go ballistic (maybe at first) and say that the woman has a "boy cut," or she must not love HIM because she knows how much he loves her hair, blah blah blah.
I've been to the salon before and had about 4-6 inches cut off, and my bf complained about "his" loss. WTF??? My answer would be - grow your own long hair. Mine is mine alone. I only permit you play in it.
My head, my hair, my choice.
First, well done, second, thanks for the clarification, and third, I don't have a single negative response. Of course, I can't speak for all men--he he he--not even close. But I wouldn't ever act impatient with a woman I care about when she is dressing, etc.--we would have gone through that much earlier, nor would there be any ballistics if someone wants to change--again already covered if it is a sound relationship.
I would even offer a couple of things. First--Be Yourself. That is why I said you (each of you individually) have to make up your own mind obout it. It is YOUR prerogative. (By the way, "prerogative" means 'before asked', in effect holding your hand out palm forward, fingers up, saying, 'don't even ask!'.) Second--you are not your hair, and your hair is not you. And, you can replace 'hair' with almost any of the superficial parts of a person. These are ideals--living up to them for ourselves can be very hard.
The key is finding someone who wants you for who you are, and vice versa. To me, other types of relationships are prone to some degree of unhappiness. And getting back to the hair, if you feel constrained about the length, style, etc., of your hair, and someone criticizes you for it, there is something wrong--to some degree. And obviously this applies to both genders and other issues equally.
The last lady I was involved with loved my beard--and my present ladyfriend lovingly teases me about my beard all the time. We should all have that kind of acceptance. It is priceless.
David
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/4/2006 8:09:24 AM | Older women with hair to the shoulder is ok. I noticed that most of the women that did answer were older and white.A little on the defensive side as well( I will assume someone said "You should cut all this off.") The women of color have not chimed in yet . For the most part our hair is our crowning glory. For many of us it can be changed from long to short and back again to long in just one visit. This week mine is at the nape of my neck.This summer it was short and curly.Next week? Who knows!And let's not even go there when it comes to change of color! No matter what it is neat and clean.I wear it to suit me not the person I date. It is my glory
For the men
Please if you must wear it long , keep it neat and cleaned and trimmed .Tie it back id it is a formal or dress occasion. Please
And keep the breads and mustaches, nose hairs even your eyebrows under control .
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Posted: 10/4/2006 7:05:02 PM | vrb,
I use to tease my drill team girls about how unfair it is that women and young ladies of color can change their hair like that! They would come to school with some of the most fabulous hair styles...couldn't help but to be a little green with envy! Then they would tell me the hours they sat still to get it done....wow! Now, I have some little girls who want the new styles, but don't take the time to have it done right, or don't have the money, because their braided strands fall out in class. I feel sorry for those sweet little girls!
As far as keeping it neat, clean, and trimmed goes, you hit the nail on the head! I don't even mind a man having longer hair as long as it's kept neat, clean, and trimmed. I dated a guy for 2 1/2 years with hair longer than mine...loved to brush and braid it!
As for your hair being your glory, I'm with you there, too! I remember once when there was a big lice scare going around our school. It was like "No way! I can't have that stuff getting on me! I'd never get them all out of my thick locks without cutting it off first!" Boy, was I glad someone told me a preventive measure to take! | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 7:17:47 PM | | to me there just is nothing more sexy than a older woman with long hair , even when i was younger i though that , but hey i am into the hair thing big time ,the more the better , i think if you was to put long hair on a fence post ,i would stand there and talk to it | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 8:03:54 PM | Thanks for the nice comments TexMan!
I'm doing what I want and loving it! (But can it grow any faster???) | |
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Posted: 10/5/2006 2:02:23 AM | | If you get some knox gelatin and mix it with orange juice...half a pack to a glass, twice a day, you'll see your hair and nails grow!! | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:01:01 AM |
i think if you was to put long hair on a fence post ,i would stand there and talk to it
I think there are a lot of men that think this way, because the truth is that long hair does not flatter every woman. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2006 8:13:24 AM | Here I am... 54 years old, still wearing my hair long. It's long and THICK. I DESPISE going to hair dressers as they always want to cut my hair shorter so I tirm my own when it needs it.
Everyone I meet that does not know me thinks that I'm in my late 30's or early 40's, so evidently not ALL women over 40 look older with long hair. I LOVE MY LONG HAIR. 
I DON'T COLOR IT. I have before. I used to frost it and it was beautiful but too hard on my hair and made it too dry as my hair never gets oily. It's not hard to take care of. I can wear it in different styles.
I receive a LOT of compliments on my hair, not only from men, but from women too. Especially younger women and girls. Now as I'm getting older it's frosting itself with beautiful "silver" highlights, but just enough that it's pretty and coming in like it's frosted.
I've been singing in a church recently and after practice one day last week a couple of the women and I that are in the music group went to lunch. Our ages were brought up when we were talking about our children. I said my son was 36 and both of their mouths dropped. They didn't believe me. I honestly had to take my driver's liscense out and show them that I was telling them the truth. They both thought I was in my late 30's. So...I agree that "skin", fashion, face wrinkles etc. is what contributes a woman looking older. NOT HAIR. Some of us are just (blessed) to look younger than what we actually are.
I agree that ALL women do not look good with long hair. Women should wear their hair the way they want to and what is most attractive on them. BE YOURSELF. But... YES, from my own experience.. .. MEN DO LOVE LONG HAIR ON WOMEN. At least most that I've ever come across do.
PS: AND... NO.. My picture is not a "glamor" shot as some ask. My picture was taken while out singing one evening. All I did was take the picture into my photo shop on my computer and put in background to take the people out of the picture that were sitting behind me.
Well, that's my 2 cents worth. lol
Have a great day everyone! | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/5/2006 11:57:03 AM | I'm over 50 and I have always loved long hair. I used to be able to sit on mine. My kids talked me into a change and I cut it shoulder length. Missed it terribly and won't do it again.
It has grown out since but not long enough for me yet. If men like long hair why would age have anything to do with it? My hair is shiny and healthy looking and I'm happy with it. | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/5/2006 1:55:50 PM | To all the ladies out there of any age that might be reading this.
Hair length does not define you as a person. Rather it becomes part of you and an expression of yourself. So I say, do not listen to anybody about age relative to long hair. Do only what you are comfortable with not to try too "impress" others. Personally for me, I tend to like longer hair, but short or shorter hair that "fits" the lady's personality can also be extremely pleasant (sexy) for me.... | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/5/2006 2:35:04 PM |
Hair is power girls! Men love hair
I have never, nor do I know a women who has to use hair to gain men. Hair does not make you powerful. It's the person.
I can only speak for my self, but long hair or short did'nt make me powerful. Nor did my hair make me feel power. Men think girls with hair are powerful. I never met a man to date to say this?
There are many woemen with short hair who have no problems attracting men.
Perhaps we need some women with short hair to comment on this? Do you have problems attrating men? Now you have short hair do you feel you lost your power?
I know many with out long hair with no problems getting men, or marrying men.
Look how Hail Berry brought fame by cutting her hair short, GI Jane, and some other women.
Women and men loved it!
She and some other's opened this door to make that statement women can be women with short hair, still be attractive. Not how they look. But who they are! Now that's power!
I hate to think Hair means it makes the women! That's just way too shallow!
In my oppion to you who made this statement. You seem to have self esteem issues! If you really believe this.
Makes me want to shave my head to make a point here | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/5/2006 2:35:19 PM | I am 56, and sometimes have the urge to grow my hair.. and let it go grey, and become all that mother nature intended. But i chicken out. maybe one day.. when i am in my 70s.. i may grow my silver locks.. ( if my daughter lets me).
I do adore men with long well kempt hair. | |
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| Long hair on older women
Posted: 10/5/2006 2:41:04 PM | I love mine long,,, and it is very long. I don't care what someone else considers proper for me,,, they are free to think what they choose. At 58, more and more of my choices have become all about me, me, me,,, what makes me happy. I'd never cut it for someone else, just as I'm not wearing it long for anyone else.
Just my $.02 worth.
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