| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 3:17:31 PM | I wonder what will happen to the Sunday markets though. I do still hope they have them.
I agree Polly. The ones in the malls (Penhorn, Sunnyside) would certainly have a problem.
Can't charge admission or block the aisleways. I hope they'll be able to relocate quickly. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 3:44:01 PM | I agree with TIA. It's too bad that the people that rant on about "the vote" not being adhered too haven't listened to her comments.. Well, folks, did you see Sunday shopping right after that "vote"?????
No, you didn't. The gov't listened. So there.
They didn't change the law to allow Sunday shopping. They kept the current law in place. Which is what the slight majority wanted. That law was abused, via loopholes, by Peete's. Peete's competition saw how f'ing busy he was and justifiably wanted in. So they followed him. The gov't then tried to stop them by ammending the law and putting in a grandfather clause that wouldn't allow anyone to take advantage of the loophole after June 1, 2006. That discrimated against the other stores as it favored Peete's. I think it was a case of it's all or nothing. And if we had nothing we would be complaining about that. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 3:56:48 PM | A win is a win is a win is a win is a win is a win is a win! It doesn't matter how many votes takes it, it is still a win. So what we need to do I guess is whoever gets elected in the next election, be it provincial or federal, we just give it to the one with the least votes if there isn't much of a spread as the one with the most votes didn't win by a very large margin! 
And about the plebiscite not being a binding vote, the government stated when the No side won the vote the people of Nova Scotia have spoken and this issue would not be revisited till the next election. The people of this province have faith in democracy! | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 4:22:56 PM |
So what we need to do I guess is whoever gets elected in the next election, be it provincial or federal, we just give it to the one with the least votes if there isn't much of a spread as the one with the most votes didn't win by a very large margin!
A different side of darlena. I enjoyed the more mature and thoughtful one. Kind of made up for a lot of us. 
The Supreme Courts in this country change a lot of laws. Out of control of the gov't. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 4:31:38 PM | | I think that the little "vote" was a bit of learning experience for a lot of people. I know it certainly was to most that I talked to. Its sad, but people are pretty damn lazy around here. Our voter turnout rate is shocking. The difference between the ages of the majority of voters is also shocking. Its not the 20-40 year olds that are voting, its the older majority that turns out regularily for votes. That meant that there were alot more little grannies who like their church socials who were out there voting, then there were young families and students. Also, they regularly talked about how in yes/no votes that the side that was against something were usually more zealous than a yes side. If you are trying to stop something you are more apt to vote. It was shocking to me, after the vote, how many people just assumed it would go through and so they didn't bother to vote. Well, they deserve what they got. Suck it up and stop your whining. But I'm sure now that everyone saw what happened...there would have been a totally different and more clear cut outcome to that vote. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 4:36:18 PM |
Well if you HAVE to work on Sunday, religion and family cannot take priority for obvious reasons.
This is probably a losing battle to argue this as people have pretty strong views either way...but...
#1 - I'm pretty sure you can't be forced to work sunday for religious reasons, although I am sure it happens
#2 - spend time with family on OTHER days, what do you think the countless Nurses, doctors, health professionals, police officers, firefighters do?
Why are the home lives of "retail workers" somehow more valued than the rest of the "working sunday" population | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 4:37:56 PM | A different side of darlena. I enjoyed the more mature and thoughtful one. Kind of made up for a lot of us.
Leafs, I was voicing my strong and very passionate opinion on this issue. It drives me absolutely batty when people, those that didn't even partake in the vote say that it was a vote but not by much and it shouldn't count cause the majority of the no side was in rural NS. I would have been very ticked off if the Yes side have won but hope I would have been adult enough to realize the majority had won, period. I really truly have to stop reading this stuff as I will admit I can't be impartial I see red for real! I have to spend more time in the Off topic forums, some pretty mind numbing stuff there! 
Sobeys & Superstore were being discriminated against...plain & simple
I can't say I am sorry about that, now people being discriminated against, that is something to get up in arms about... over and out :) | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 4:40:44 PM |
Sobeys & Superstore were being discriminated against...plain & simple
Rodney knew what he was doing when he did that
gave them a 100% winnable case
(if I could go on POF at work, I was going to post this, lol) | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 4:45:41 PM | How abotu this if you don't want sunday shopping then don't shop on sundays. If you don't want to work on sundays quit your job and find a job in a government office. Why is it people don't complain when people HAVE to work sundays that are not in the retail business. what makes the retail workers so special that they should have sundays off(I use to work retail). What the hell lets take sunday shopping away and the right fior women to vote as well...it's the year 2006 not 1906. It's called catching up with every other provience and allowing people the choice to do their shopping(as for me on my one day off each week). Why should we have a religious day off forced upon us, because not workign on sunday is just that a religious day off...see the Good lord days act or what they renamed it to so as to seem to not be religion based. I say sunday shopping for all or no one is allowed to work on sundays except for the emergency services(Police, Doctors, FireFighters, etc...). Also to end this post I'd like to say that if people work on sundays they should be paid double time for it.
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 5:27:09 PM | Good point. Where are all these people who are so opposed to working on Sunday when it comes to the people that pump their gas, patrol their streets and serve them their Tim's? Also, I'm sure there are lots of people out their enjoying that Sunday of church and visiting with their families. So for all of you using it as time to sit around, watch football, go to the Casino...since your family time is so important to you..go visit your family.
I get that this is a controversial discussion. Lots of heated sides and opinions. But people, lets put this into perspective....we're not talking about killing puppies here. Be thankful for what you have and work with what you don't have. There are people out there who can't even feed their kids. Kids are going to school and being killed. Our military is risking their lives every day to "do their duty". These things are worth getting worked up about. Whether or not Walmart is open is not something that should get people this riled up. You're just extremely lucky if this is the worst problem in your day. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 5:33:46 PM |
Why are the home lives of "retail workers" somehow more valued than the rest of the "working sunday" population
Well it was always suppose to be about essential staff. Nursing homes hospitals some garages(not all) were deemed essential. Eventually restaurants came on board and all the recreation businesses. So there is no end anymore. Our society is losing its ability to sit back and relax. Nova scotia managed to hang on to some of it for a little longer, now that's gone. I doubt we will see the days when the damage we have done becomes more apparant. Its not just about Sunday shopping, its about how our society wastes resources, and relies heavily on technology, and fuel. Okay I will stop now because I can see this debate being endless....... | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 7:54:27 PM | I think that if they are going to allow all store to open on sundays why not the court up and running on saturdays and sundays. The courts are so backed up that people can not get a speedy trial. So that opens the gate for lawyers working on saturdays and sundays. Speaking about the police, they will have to have more officers working on sundays because the shop lifters will be out in full force. This is a heated subject and every one has their point of veiw and I respect the but the people have spoken and voted against it. If they are making the retail aspect of life up and running on sunday why not the rest of the world.IE: Dentist, doctors,lawyers, courts and the list goes on.
This is my oppinion and I would hope people respect this and I respect your oppinion. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 8:05:51 PM |
It drives me absolutely batty when people, those that didn't even partake in the vote say that it was a vote but not by much and it shouldn't count cause the majority of the no side was in rural NS.
Didn't see, or missed it, any comments like that. Saw comments that Metro said yes and the rural area said no. Any comments on whether it should have counted or not seemed to be in the favour of those that thought it should. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 8:11:58 PM |
IE: Dentist, doctors,lawyers, courts and the list goes on.
They always could if they wanted too. Bad examples. There is or wasn't any law preventing them. Much like gov't and banks chose not to work on weekends (except for essential services). Banks eventually opened some branches on Saturday, but were selective.
This is a retail thing, all the other services could be opened if they wanted too, as there was a law regarding size limitations. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 8:31:46 PM | | And not to argue a point, but I'm going to lol Lawyers and Doctors work on Sundays already. Lawyers can be called in for clients when they are arrested, etc. Doctors definetly work on Sundays. Hospitals don't close on a Sunday and there are quite a few clinics around Metro on a Sunday that are open. Not so much in the Valley though...but then again, its the valley lol | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 8:55:37 PM | yeah and doctors always had to work everyday, my father used to row to his clients for god sakes ..lol
and how many lawyers work through weekends and until wee hours of the morning preparing for court..what i am saying isnt about everyone needing to work, its about what is essential and what isnt. Why do we live in an era that is so demanding. We have lost our patience.. I know i have the right not to shop on sundays. Gosh if I can help it i wont shop on Saturdays! To me i just think it would be of been nice to leave a day where it wasnt necessary. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 8:59:25 PM | Myself I think it was just a matter of time and it was going to happen as long as the employer shows respect and does not make a fulltime person work on a Sunday that doesnt want to work then it should be ok. Lots of partime people probaly will need the extra hours & fulltime workers also
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 9:30:51 PM | I'm morally and ethically opposed to Sunday shopping. It's one of the many reasons that I chose to live in Nova Scotia, as opposed to my home province. That aside, I am working Sundays so that those with families, children, and pets can spend THEIR time at home where they belong.
I will not (and have not) shopped on Sunday in a major store for over 20 years. That includes when I lived in Ontario and it was legal. I have WORKED in an industry that REQUIRED Sunday commitments for over 15 years...it's just been the last 8 that did not require it of me on a regular basis.
I will continue to not shop on Sundays, although I will have to work them--beginning this Sunday. I would cease all arguments and lodge no more complaints if I could:
a) get a drivers license on Sunday
b) get a bank loan on Sunday
c) register for University on Sunday
d) take out a library book on Sunday
e) ... you get my point ...
Anyway...it's a divisive issue. It's facile to say 'get another job', and simplistic to believe that 'they can't force you to work Sundays if you don't want to'. I feel that Rodney MacDonald and his government created a situation whereby they are able to throw their hands in the air and say "wow, we didn't see that coming...sorry folks, not our fault!" The case was put in such a manner that the Supreme Court had no choice but to find as they did.
And like it or not? We're stuck with a situation that most people in this province do not want, and did not sign on for. Simply stating that the people who voted in the BINDING pleibicite were 'rural Nova Scotians' does not bely the fact that they DID vote, and they DID vote against Sunday shopping. Simply because YOU feel differently? Does not change the results.
Just my $0.02. Please come and spend yours at my store on Sunday, because if I have to be there, it had better be worth my while. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/4/2006 10:02:56 PM | Heh. If everyone keeps chipping in the .02s, we'll be able to buy some gum or something.
And like it or not? We're stuck with a situation that most people in this province do not want, and did not sign on for. Simply stating that the people who voted in the BINDING pleibicite were 'rural Nova Scotians' does not bely the fact that they DID vote, and they DID vote against Sunday shopping. Simply because YOU feel differently? Does not change the results.
Ok, so I can't buy my groceries on Sunday because the good folks of Lower Washabuck say I can't? How, exactly does this make sense? This is the crux of my personal issue with this. I'm not telling anyone that they have to go out and spend money at any given time. I'm not telling anyone that they can't spend time with their family. I just don't see why anyone should be telling me I have to spend time with mine, is all. Heh.
For my part, me feeling differently doesn't change the results, but the law in question being arbitrary and nonsensical in the first place does.
Here's the thing that I don't get. I've never heard a valid reason why it should be the government's job to decide who opens when. Why would we need a law telling us when to buy what? Personally, I have total confidence in my ability to judge when I need a day of rest, when I need to spend time with my family, and when I need to buy ham. | |
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