| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 3:07:12 PM | | I hope the next move will be that everything will be open on Sunday, yes even office workers who feel that they need to shop on Sunday but cannot because their company decided to open for business. I mean if everything remained open 7 days a week then more work can get done , more work more money. Think about it. I bet that most people who know that their office is only open mon to fri, or where ever they work would be pissed if their boss said they were gonna be open on sat and sun they be screaming about it. Doyou really need sat or sun off ? how about getting mon and tues instead ? I ask those who work these jobs, would you rather have your weekend as it is or take two different days off and work the weekend ? I bet you rather have the weekend as it is, but you got your way and someday I hope these people will have to work Sunday instead of shopping or getting the day off. For the most part it`s the cry babies who rather shop than work. I know that there are some people who need the money and are willing to work Sunday`s to pay their bills and feed their families.I used to work Sunday`s and hated it, I told my boss today not to ask me to work if they decide to open because the answer will be no. I`m not directing this at anyone person and if someone feels that it is , well then too bad, boohoo cry me a river, Nova Scotia just lost some values that were a part of our history but I guess we can follow the rest of the sheep and become followers instead of leaders.Congrats to those who wanted and good luck, I hope these people are happy that someone other than them wont get to just hang out with their families because they have to work. Just think were slowly becomming like the rest of Canada instead of having our own unique ways that makes Nova Scotia that special place it used to be. For those who are gonna be forced to work Sunday I hope it goes well and your children will understand why you cannot go away for the weekend because you have to work. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 3:35:57 PM | It certainly isn't propoganda, the current stats on the US consumer debt is staggering.
That is only one aspect of the problem, there are more important issues, such as, latch key kids, higher energy consumption, and over burden on our already stretched social/transportation networks. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 4:06:21 PM | Ok maybe not Propoganda then but what do you call unfounded information.. sunday shopping is going to cause everyone to go into debt?... what about all those people who do not do shopping on sundays and are obscene amounts of person debt. To blame rising debt on sunday shopping is to ignore the fact that people are incharge of what they do with their cash/credit and should be able to decide for themselves what day they want to shop on. Me personally I don't have credit cards nor will I get them, second only credit I have used is to get a car..other then that i deal in cash only.
I hope the next move will be that everything will be open on Sunday, yes even office workers who feel that they need to shop on Sunday but cannot because their company decided to open for business.
Did you noitce how it's only retail stores that were not allowed to open due to a religious based law of a bygone era...Office I am betting will not open on sundays nor Saturdays for that matter. And by the way I have a career that requires me to work on all 7 days of the week. I've been known to work 19 days in a row and toss into that my shifts are 8 to 12 hours in length, my work is on a 24 hour time clock we only stop on holidays, but thats if a ship isn't in or something needs repaired.
Nova Scotia just lost some values that were a part of our history
Now correct me if I am wrong but every PROVINCE in Canada once had a religious based law probiting sunday shopping.
I hope these people are happy that someone other than them wont get to just hang out with their families because they have to work. what about police, fire fighters, Medical staff, gas station workers, bridge workers, commissionaires ..etc the list goes on of those who HAVE to work on sudnays, no one seems to care that they are working sundays. If you don't want to shop on sudnays then don't..stay home do not buy gas, do not go to a corner store...just close your blinds and spend time with your family/friends while the rest of us do that all through out the week while not at work(or after work/before work).
Tim
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 5:15:06 PM | | I should have explained myself better. If a person picks a profession knowing in advance that they will be working on Sunday then that is their choice, I`m talking about people who dont want to work on Sunday`s but will end up working on Sunday, basically told they will be working, not by choice, choice being the key word. Like I said before I used to work on Sunday, by choice but now I dont by choice.I know it`s my choice to shop on Sunday and no one is forcing me to. I liked the fact that we were different than the rest of the country but now we are not. I have never used reglious beliefs as an excuse for Sunday shopping, a person can find time if it`s really needed. If I`m too lazy to do my shopping any other day of the week or evening then I now have the choice to do it on Sunday. The government laws protecting are only as strong as the government wants to enforce them, I mean they can force a union that is on strike for some reason to go back to work. So who is going to protect the people who are told that they have to work Sunday`s or else ? Yes you can fight it but how long would it take and how much would it cost ? Basically the worker has no rights but told they do. To choose or not to choose it`s up to you but what about the ones who had a choice but dont no more ? With today`s laws the employer has all the power to walk over the employees rights and for those who dont believe that are the ones who need to get out of the dark ages. Fight for your rights and watch some else do your job while your still fighting .Like I said some had a choice but now some no more. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 5:38:47 PM | I won't comment on the unions..LOL thats for a totally different post. The way I see it si this way..we all need money to live, so we work, adn trust me it's not by choice, I think that if people didn't have to work they wouldn't, it's the reason work is called WORK. and it was the Courts that struck down thsi funyn law against retaisl openign but let pete's go about business as usual on sunday. If they didn't allow Pete's to open I think it may not have gone to the courts and perhaps there wouldn't of been all this fuss from Sobeys/Superstore etc about opening.
Again I will say people still worked sundays at retail stores even though previously there had been no right to shop on any given sunday. I didn't see people fighting for them to have sunday off, just seem to of been fighting to make sure people couldn't shop on sundays, and that only certain stores be allowed open on sundays.
Oh and by the way I took a minute to look up the meaning of "plebiscite" and found this "A plebiscite is a vote on a particular question or issue which is not necessarily binding", "a vote by the electorate determining public opinion on a question of national importance". Thats pretty interesting me thinks.
"Basically the worker has no rights but told they do"- Workers have rights, the right to fair pay and treatment, the right work not more then 40 hours in most jobs, the right to contact the labour board if they feel they are being treated unfairly, the right to be paid for the work they do, the right to work no more then 6 days in a row in most jobs, the right to refuse unsafe work and the right to quit a job and look for a new one(but they must give proper notice)..those are some of the rights I can recall off the top of my head.
As I said what makes retail works so special that they should be given a day off yet the rest of us are made to work sundays(and like me 14 days in a row sometimes more)..and again when I worked Wal-mart, Sobeys/Super store I worked sundays yet they where not open. Where were the people fighting for me(us workers) to have sunday off, well I don't recall people being upset that I was "forced" towork sunday, but only seemed to complain when they were allowed to be open and generate business such as Pete's.
That seems fair forcing some places to close while allowing others to open.
Tim
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:09:23 PM | No my Cafe will not be open on Sundays or Saturdays for that fact.
I will need a rest after working the week days in the cafe and nights teaching dance.
I spend my weekends with friends and family. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:11:55 PM |
Again I will say people still worked sundays at retail stores even though previously there had been no right to shop on any given sunday. I didn't see people fighting for them to have sunday off, just seem to of been fighting to make sure people couldn't shop on sundays, and that only certain stores be allowed open on sundays.
Exactly. I worked in a video store when I was in university and I had to work Sundays. It was one of our busiest days. And the SObey's staff down the road from us, a lot of people were in there working to clean, stock etc for Monday. Sunday SHOPPING and Sunday WORKING are totally different issues. From the drive through line-ups I don't see too many people who have a problem with Tim's being open Sunday either - and sticking up for the rights of Tim's workers who want that day with their family.
And not just retail.
my dad worked shifts, and many weekends and holidays and because of that people were able to call their friends and family overseas on Sundays and holidays. Would the people who don't believe in Sunday shopping be speaking up for my dad having the day off when they couldn't call Uncle Joe in England to say hi on Christmas Day?
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:24:00 PM |
I ask those who work these jobs, would you rather have your weekend as it is or take two different days off and work the weekend ?
Well I work a normally 8-4 M-F office job. At any time my boss can tell me to work Saturday, Sunday or to come in at 3 am or stay until 10. Unless I work for myself, that's something that's part of work life. And it's happened. I have been called in on Thanksgiving Day. I have had to come in at 6 and stay til 10 or later, work Saturdays, work Sundatys etc. But most of the time no. Most of the time I work M-F from 8-4. However, if I could choose, I actually would work Sat-Thurs or Wed-Sun, because it's easier to get stuff done. If I go to the mall on a weekday, I don't have to deal with children. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:32:42 PM | For those who are gonna be forced to work Sunday I hope it goes well and your children will understand why you cannot go away for the weekend because you have to work.
Oh, honestly. Do you think anyone's gonna go on that guilt trip of yours?
I suspect that the children of hotel staff, restaurant workers, taxi drivers, doctors, nurses, hospital staff, animal shelter workers, dairy, beef, sheep, horse, pig and chicken farm workers, sports coaches, police officers, army/navy/airforce members, firefighters and others have had to understand why they can't go away for the weekend.
Edited: Of all the issues we as concientious citizens should concern ourselves with, isn't this kind of a silly one? When children are going to school hungry, some families can't afford to heat their homes in the winter, people are living on the street while others are choosing to drive gas-guzzling SUV's as a status symbol, isn't whether or not stores can open on a sunday just a tiny bit trivial? | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:36:15 PM | ^^^^Exactly,as a restaurant cook that has kids and is a single mother,the answer of course is yes they understand.They are fond of food in the fridge and having the light come on when they flip the switch.Have to work on sunday?Cry me a river. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:55:25 PM | ^^^^
and exactly again...
as the daughter of a father who often worked sundays and holidays, i survived just fine, and was a happy, well adjusted kid. i wouldn't change a thing. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:10:24 PM |
So who is going to protect the people who are told that they have to work Sunday`s or else ?Yes you can fight it but how long would it take and how much would it cost ? Basically the worker has no rights but told they do. To choose or not to choose it`s up to you but what about the ones who had a choice but dont no more ?
Workers rights and Sunday shopping seem to often get thrown together. They are totally different issues. In a lot of cases, employees have no rights seven days of the week. I worked at a large bookstore for almost five years, two shifts a week. They told me I had to work 4 shifts or i didn't have a job, because they changed their policy. I could not work 4 shifts a week. The only days I was available was Saturday and Sunday. I had an ultimatum. Work a minimum of 4 or leave. I left. That was NOT fair, at all, but had nothing to do with Sunday Shopping. I worked for a family owned business where one of the bosses would come in on Mondays and Tuesdays and abuse us - yell and scream and throw stuff. I tried to do something for myself and the others and risked my job to do it. I know call centres where friends work and are penalized if they take a sick day. And the list goes on.
Employees will be abused or treated unfairly no matter whether or not there is Sunday shopping. It sucks but it is a completely different issue - and one that might be more important to deal with. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:16:18 PM | | As I have said, some people choose a job knowing that they will have to work Sunday, ok great, good for them. It`s not a guilt trip , I will cry no river. If you choose to work a job that requries you work Sunday than thats your choice . Once again CHOICE being the key word. If you choose a profession or job that didnt require you to work on Sunday`s but now you are told that now you do. Looks like Tomas see`s my point. I guess I`m just beating a dead horse here . Instead of picking apart a post , read it with an open mind. I understand that it is necessary for people to work on Sunday, ok, I understand, it`s a part of life, I get it. There are people that work at Sobey`s and Superstore 24/7. The store may be closed but people are still working inside. I used to renovate them so it does make sense to open, there is staff already there. I believe this is why Sobey`s stay`s open 24hr, why not put on a cashier and accept coustmers as they already have people working . Once again, the problem I have is that people who choose a place of employment so that they dont have to work on Sunday will end up working Sunday without a choice(keyword). Is it fair that they might have to work a day that they originally had off, to do whatever they choose to do rather than work ? It is your choice(keyword ), no one is forcing you to pick a profession that requries you to work on Sunday. I guess some people figure if they work Sunday, everyone else should have to. Enjoy working Sunday as I will be having a few brews watching football. I mean no disrespect towards anyone , and everyone are entitled to their opnion, atleast I think we still are in Nova Scotia. This just proves who is in charge of this Province, big business instead of the people we elect. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:21:24 PM | I don't know about you ,but when "choosing a job" what day of the week I will or will not have off would never enter into it ,and if it does, then I guess those who have to work sunday now will have to "choose" another one.
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:26:39 PM | I have always worked office work and in the last ten years I've worked retail. When I worked office work I was paid for 40 hours a week, and worked anywhere from 80-100 some weeks. I worked nights, weekends, around the clock...whatever I needed to do. Now I'm working retail and whether I was working for someone else or now for myself, I still work crazy ass hours like that. I don't think there have been many nights in the last three months that I wasn't doing some kind of work. This is the type of job that I picked to do. No one is crying cause I don't have any time off. (Oh yeah, I took my second week of vacation in four years last week...well, four days anyway). The reason I'm saying this is we all chose our types of job. My point is that there are dozens of people working lots of hours, Sundays, Holidays, etc...just so you can have your Sunday off. Well, now its more of an even playing field. At least in retail you get paid for what you work. Wish I did.
Also, I find the whole argument about spending time with the family kind of a load of shit. Not everyone mind you..but there are a ton of people whining about it who aren't spending that day with their family. They are lieing on the couch with a hangover watching football. There are mothers out there who aren't spending the day hanging with their kid. They are doing laundry while her son ignores her cause he's with his friends or he's playing video games. How many single people actually even live near their family? Its not a family day..its a day to rest, a day to clean..but its no more a family day than any other day of the week.
To all those who have to work on a Sunday I'm sorry. To all those who are thrilled to make some more hours on a Sunday..good for you. To all of us who work long hours and have about 3 hours a week free time to go to a mall..yippee for us. I am quite happy to be able to go shopping on a Sunday. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:50:08 PM | All I can truly say about this is it's about time NS government finally got off their metaphorical, and rather anachronistic, butts and got with the year 2k6.
edit: And I agree with TallGirl. :D | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:53:07 PM | | People have choices. They can leave their job if they are forced to work Sundays and that really doesn't work for them. Things aren't always fair in employment and things constantly change. I used to be able to make whatever hours i wanted as long as i worked 37.5 hrs between M and F. Now I have to work 8-4. That's something which changed after i was hired. I preferered chosing my own hours because i like to sleep in, and i have 3 dogs so in the winter it gave me time to give them a good run in the morning, when it was light out... which is important to me. I do not have that option anymore. But I have choices. I can find a new job, or i can be unemployed. Neither of them are fair so i have to suck it up and make the best of it. I figure the only way that things are fair and you really have choices is to work for yourself. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:58:45 PM | | wow i never worked weekends in years and i hope it keeps up but since iam in the owner operator buisness in the courier line i bet they will try to change that i hope not' | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 8:19:35 PM | im not for sunday shopping, i dont even go for a coffee on sundays... for the pass six months ive worked six days a week..... now with sunday shoppin its going to be seven.. im glad i dont have to pay for a sitter anymore.. i feel for the single parents that have to pay for a sitter on the weekends.. i know i did for yrs nights and saturdays kills ya when u dont work for much then 7 bucks a hour. i work those hours sooo i have a job not cause i want too.. if someone would come in for work it would be great.. anyone know a master hairstylist willing to work in eastern passage  | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/5/2006 8:34:06 PM | First off workers will not be protected. Second if a business is in a mall and the mall is open on a Sunday or Holiday then all the stores in that mall will be open, no choice. Third, I'd like to see the bottom line of businesses in a year or two and see if their profits have gone up proportionally, in other words up by 1/7th (I highly doubt it).
I've worked shift for 14 years and never needed to shop on a Sunday and find week days the best time to go anyways.
Students to work on a Sunday, maybe but wait for the calls on Sunday morning saying they are sick (read too much partying the night before).
If you think opening on Sundays will lower the welfare rolls, forget it. Those legitimately on it will stay on it due to illness and/or injuries. Those who are not will not work for minimum wage. If they were willing to work, they'd be working now. Don't believe me, look at all the want ads out there.
Like others if the stores are going to be open then I want government offices open, courts opened, lawyers and other professional offices opened. Every day like every other day. | |
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