| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 12:26:03 PM |
No one I think has yet to explain why retail workers need a set day off yet the rest of us have to work on sundays as par for the course.
seems to me your gonna be waiting a long time for this rooster.....after all there is no logical explanation as to why some retail workers feel they should have that....except for reluctance to change the status quo!
i personally haven't worked too much retail for 15 years or so....but even then the sunday shopping debate was raging....and the store i worked at was open on sundays, and i did work sundays. i also work sundays now when i need to...usually june to sept; november to mid december; and mid march til the end of april...and i worked sundays when i worked in an accountant's office when i needed too...usually january til april....and when i was a farm-hand, and a theater worker...and when i worked in hospitality, and at the hospital.
when it comes right down to it i don't ever remember having a job where i was never required to work sundays! i guess if i had there's a possibility i would be sitting on the other side of the fence right now, but i doubt it. there is nothing inherently different about sunday unless of course you hold strong traditional christian religious values, which neither i, nor i would hazard a guess and say...the majority of people today have. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 12:28:34 PM | i don't ever remember having a job where i was never required to work sundays!
Me either....or at least able to work on sundays.......except once when i was working in a mall for two years | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 12:33:51 PM | | hey i think we worked in the same mall back then...........and i know i sure did my share of working there on sunday, as did numerous other people! | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 12:37:07 PM | | For me it isnt about the shopping part on Sunday, it`s how it`s being dealt with. Since Rodney let there be Sunday shopping , he also went further and took 99% of the holidays from the workers.What happened to demoracy ? Do we have a say in what happens to us ? So I guess NSP could hike up the rates weather they are allowed or not then just deal with all the legal crap later in court ? If the government wont respect the voice of the people who voted them in protect our rights with our employers decide to violiate our rights when we choose ? I mean if the government can violiate why shouldnt they ? The ball keeps rolling. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 2:03:35 PM |
"Have took away 99% of the holidays"..that implies there was 100 holidays in a calender year and only one is left...
Really Mr Rooster?
Is there no such thing as 99% of 10? or 5? etc  | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 2:38:21 PM | If the government wont respect the voice of the people who voted them in protect our rights with our employers decide to violiate our rights when we choose ?
As others have posted, our vote was a plebsicite which is non-binding. We didn't vote in any government based on a plebiscite, even if the plebiscite was linked to the views of one government or another. It really has nothing to do with democracy....
While I may be accused of splitting hairs... no one took away rights of workers. A retail establishment always could make employees work on Sundays or holidays, as could any other business. The difference is that now the business can open their doors on those days. I worked most of my time through 2 degrees in university on Sundays, because i worked in book stores (which were always open on Sundays if they weren't inside a mall). I was thankful for that option. For a while I worked in a video store, which was open on Christmas day. Only one person worked as the store was open only from 1-5, and it was not a super busy day. So many employees wanted to work Christmas day, they did a lottery and someone "won" working on Christmas day. When I worked at Chapters, they opened on Sundays year round and it was never a problem for staffing. Lots of people were willing and able to work on Sundays, and very rarely did someone who didn't 'want' to work Sundays have to. Now I work in an agency which provides service to a government department... and they've called us in on a stat holiday before, because of necessary work dictated by the government department. I could argue that when i took a "desk" job, which had hours of 8-4 monday to friday, i didn't anticipate working weekends. But sometimes I do, because they have the power to require it. I can say no, but if I do there can be consequences - even if 'legally' they can't fire me for not working, they can make my life hell. Not that I would say no... it's part of the job and part of life.
Personally I think some of this is people making mountains out of mole-hills. Most of the working public can be told to work any day of the week by their employer. And when they do, they find family time on other days or times. At least this is pretty much equal across the board, IMO. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 2:49:02 PM | | All we have heard since this BS began is "unfair" and "people want their day of rest" and "we are having our day of rest taken away" and blah blah blah. I think all this change has done is even the playing field so that the "elite" group of mall workers now have to work on a day when the rest of us have already had to work all along. Suck it up, or work somewhere else. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 3:27:50 PM | "Have took away 99% of the holidays"..that implies there was 100 holidays in a calender year and only one is left...
Really Mr Rooster?
Is there no such thing as 99% of 10? or 5? etc
99% taken away from 100 is 1 no other number will give you a 1 if it has 99% taken away from it.
That lady and Gents is the math lesson for today..LOL
But yes Paige 10 and 5 still can have 99% taken away but it will never equal 1.
Tim
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 6:31:04 PM | | I guess I`m to free sprited to let the government keep taking things away at their will and be told that this is hows it`s gonna be like it or not. It`s not about the shopping thing or work thing. I have a job, work every holiday for the money. I havent taken a dam day off in two years, mon to fri,. I did all the crap like everyone else and will contiue till I die. So what, who cares , right. I dont care. I guess some people rather be told what to do then think for themselves, atleast I can say I`m gonna instead of I got to. I still live for demoracy not a dictatorship. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 10/12/2006 9:41:23 PM | EXACTLY. The government did not do this to us. The courts did. They are two different things. Our government just didn't want to waste our money fighting for something that really was a losing battle. Eventually, the vote would have happened again and it would have been a yes for Sunday shopping. All those lazy a***s who didn't vote because they just assumed it was a sure thing..would have voted.
But again, the governement did not do this. The courts did this. Not sure why this concept is lost on everyone. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 12:31:14 AM | | ok i have to say something after reading all 8 pages of posts...first of all i am a manager at a large grocery store, where employees are not forced to work sundays more like begged no one said anything about management,now come to find out i have to work 2 sundays a month althou that doesn't seem to be much except for the fact how dare someone say that its not family day on sunday i have joint custody with my ex and sundays are one of my days yes sometimes i clean but my child helps me thats stil spending time with my family, we never go for coffee or movies or to the malls, and thats our one day we all cook together and don't leave the house my daughters friends do not come over on sundays its my time with my girl and yes we cuddle on the couch and watch tv, i don't care if its binding now or not cause for now it is, which for me being a single parent means i have to switch days with my ex when it took us 2 years to find and figure out jobs and custody arrangement how can i change that now it won't work for either of us, i could care less about malls being open my complaint is how everyone seems to think family day is a load of crap, well maybe your speaking for yourselves but i do the whole family thing and yes we go to church and visit family,for some reasons our values seemed to get over written by making more money, course not the government it does not apply to them. Is my daycare gonna be opened on sunday NO there fore i have to switch a day which im sure my ex wont let happen or i need to find a new job which is probably going to happen because we are being forced to work and anyone in retail knows if you opt not to work on sunday they say fine ,althou your hours get reduced, you get the sucky duties, crappy shifts. I do not need another day in the week to go spend my paycheck its depleted all ready i think all this has to do with is economic gains, some of us don't need to be rich or want that extra cash cause our families are more iimportant to us then making money. This is what society has come to anything for a buck and i dont' care if its plecibite or courts i still feel as if my vote and others didn't mean jack. Again no one is watching the rights of sunday workers, they say its ok but ive been in management for this retailer for 12 yrs and i know the ins and outs of their punishments they just cover their asses is all plus who wants 10 calls a day on a sunday to come in and work, cause thats whats happening. For us that arent' unionized we are put in a terrible position, don't want anyone to think i m not sucking it up its happening and i have to but dont sit there calling us cry babies for not wanting to do it there are all kiinds of ways to spend a sunday and working isn't one of them. The only way i think that this is fair is government start leading by example fine if everyone wants groceries on sunday but i can't book a docs appt or go to unemployment and do what i can't get done for the week just an example, just want people to realize were not just all acting like babies for most of us there is a reason for us not wanting to work it and its much more involved then the courts get, just want all to realize everyone has their own lives and opions and they should all be respected. Oh btw i guess the only reason i felt i had to post today is for whomever said that we were hung over on the couch or something thought it was very generalized comment or are you refering to yourself. Oh and PS when i signed my contract for management it had nothing in it about working on sundays. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 3:25:43 AM | Oh and PS when i signed my contract for management it had nothing in it about working on sundays.
No because shopping wasn't in affect, however I'm sure there is some loop hole as there is in my management contract.
I do agree with everything you said in your post. Sundays actually mean something to me as well. But I have no problems working one Sunday out of the month when my turn comes around (Thank God I'll be on mat leave soon so I won't be working many ). | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 6:06:33 AM | | hmm, have we closed our eyes to the glamousless situation here Tim... i pay 1000+ for an apartment here, although i dont work at Mickie Dees.... and i am not in the 20-35 range, i have two daughters who are newly into the NS work force and who i am also trying to convince to go west, where their step father is... making $70 an hour and paying 825/mo rent for a 2 bdrm apt in Calgary. somehow, i dont think one can compare the two economies, however, potatoes will cost you 5 dollars for 5 pounds... there wasnt much i found more expensive than here in NS. Lets talk insurance perhaps... NS has the highest vehicle insurance rate in Canada... so my ex's insurance in alberta is 1200/yr vs the 475 a month he was paying here, smae vehicle, same driving record, go figure. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 11/13/2006 8:03:22 AM | | ok, i love that there is sunday shopping and im also very happy that it is only happening now, i spend my sundays watching football with my friends and will continue to do so, but as luck would have it i needed to get something yesterday and thank god they were open on sunday. i work in a business that doesnt close at anytime for anyreason. 24/7 everyday of the year. if you dont want to shop dont, but someday youll need it for something and youll be happy. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2006 8:39:38 AM | Okay.
Generally I like Sunday shopping as long as EVERYONE works Sunday (or at least Saturday) *coughcough* government employees. DO you know how hard it is being a student who works to get into Access Nova Scotia?
I think the argument that NS was backwards without Sunday shopping is totally STUPID. I'm in the Netherlands where there is also no Sunday shopping, nor are stores open late, especially on Monday. Only once a month are SOME stores open on Sunday.
But regardless. Hopefully when I study in NS again I can get decent hours, and a decent paying job to help my bills, yeee.
Take care! | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 11/13/2006 4:59:26 PM | The issue really isn't about people just wanting an extra day to shop. It's about a law that discriminated and prevented businesses from having the freedom to choose whether they wanted to open or not. The government is not for profit and really has no reason to open more except for convienence sake....oh and it would be the taxpayers footing the bill for the extra employees. What about those doctors, and nurses, and emergency services people employed by the government who work sundays.
This is just something to get used to. Going into the restaurant business you are fully aware you will be required to work sundays...now the same goes for retail...it's not an earth shattering change....just a change. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 11/15/2006 8:32:44 PM |
The government is not for profit
who are you kidding??
its the govenment(they are the biggest money grubbing types their are)...if they weren't for profit they wouldn't to have a budget every year. they would just spend freely as they saw fit. And btw that sunday shopping law - wasn't discriminatory at all until Pete Luckett(sp?) found the loophole and exploited it as no one had done so prior to and thus there was no precedence set to use as an example. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 11/16/2006 3:04:57 AM | | I meant in the sense of having offices open for profit...thus, why would they open sundays? In government...having offices open sundays would likely just cost more...but it is profitable to be open for some retail stores...I emphasize the some.. | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 12/13/2006 8:16:02 PM | myself, i'd sooner see a store open 24/6 being a backshift worker, i think the world should be 24 hours, but i liked my sunday to do what i wanted from the "little guy" i think "he" deserves it, having to compete against the big stores, bottom line, leave the small dog a bone ffs!!!! the bigger stores dont need the extra 5000 - ???? in sales that bad do they ?? | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 12/13/2006 10:34:54 PM | i am glad to see that all the major retailers (pricks at futureshop aside) giving boxing day off to the employees locally. at least we know tat they have a heart (while it may be smalllllllllll - its still there) | |
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| GOV'T JUST APPROVED SUNDAY SHOPPING!!!!!
Posted: 12/14/2006 3:03:47 PM | Glad to hear this news.
Now I won't be rushed trying to get prezzies for the kids and hubby.
Thank goodness someone started using their head and began listening to what consumers wanted. | |
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